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Posted by John (Sivan John) Thursday, August 14, 2014 Go To Comments

Tata Sabella, Hola Martino!
A new chapter will finally open for Argentina under the guidance of Gerardo MARTINO as he was finally presented by the AFA as the National Team’s new manager.
 
In his first press conference, the first thing he said was "It's an honor to hold this position."
 
His first task, as we all know will be the friendly against Germany on the 3rd of September. Apparently he will also recall all 23 players who were part of the World Cup squad in Brazil for that friendly but also assured that the doors are open to everyone (perhaps a clear reference to Carlos TEVEZ).  
 
 
His contract will run until the end of the qualification for the 2018 World Cup and will be automatic extended should the team qualify for the actual tournament.
 
In between, he will have plenty tournaments that will keep him busy for the next four years as he is also responsible for managing the Youth team, something which he is keen to look into with regards of bringing in new talent to the senior set up.
 
 
He also gave a hint that he will be looking at the style of play he had adapted with Newell’s Old Boys compared to Barcelona.
 
He did spoke specifically about Lionel MESSI and Javier MASCHERANO, whom he knew too well from his time at Barcelona, saying that "I have the advantage of having worked with them.”
 
With the said, it’s time to welcome everyone to the Tata MARTINO era of Argentina!



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argentine
(Ghana)
Posted on 8/18/2014 at 11:47 AM
0
Icarime di and co should be given chance,for Rodrigo its time to depart with him.


rasel
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 8:59 AM
0
argentina have lot of dribler , accurate through pass maker, fast playergood defensive midfield. argentina should play attacking based football. saella said he will make balanced team and he did but the team was defensive based. i think argentine resources are attackers,play makers they should go with attacking based balance football. first match against germany i did not agree with the squad.why the old squad. germany will play with new players i am sure. argentina should think about next wcup. they should select the younger now. argentina also have to make plan for some specific team...........vamos argentina


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 2:31 AM
0
mamoun "elpipita"
thank you for understanding, it very different from club sides when if they lose a cup final their is always next year but for any n/t redemption is very difficult as we know 4 years is a long time yet alone the 24 years and counting.
I try to prepare before any w/c by thinking its just a game that no matter what I do, say or how I act the reality is I have no control over any result,

I always think how can a game do this to us? when reality is their are far bigger and in reality more important things like people starving, poverty or what direction the world is going in but soon we forget all of that as the escape from every day life for so many is called football, it always creeps it way forward to detract us from what should be real important things in life.
the classic quote: "football is not about life or death its more then that" I know its not true but the power of the game has is unreal.

as for Argentina I never give up hope and never will as the future is always bright for us as we do have a production line of todays and tomorrow's young talent ready to be step up and we always will have world class talent being produced, yes we do seem have a conveyer belt some where hiding away and producing these gladiators.




mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 12:51 AM
1
My dear Pablo you're too kind sir, and I have to say that I feel abit sad when I read your comments because I can "feel" the pain from the world cup loss in your words.
Argentina losing the final was painful for all of us but I always have to remind myself that for you Argentines the pain will likely have an extra sting to it.

To all of you who are still suffering from PTSD because of the final I want you to dust your selves off and smile and I'll tell you why:

Firstly, while it is true that Argentina lost the final it is also true that Argentina regained it's notable reputation and the respect that it lacked after inexplicably failing to make it past the QF for 24 yrs.

Secondly, this world cup has unearthed quite a few gems like Enzo, Biglia, Romero and Rojo; and now we know that because some of our players don't play for a filthy rich club doesn't mean that they're not rich in skill and contribution to the NT.

Thirdly, now that Tata will be taking over the reigns at the junior levels I have hope that Argentina's boat load of bright young talents won't go to waste like the 09, 11, and 13 editions sadly have.

Lastly, looking at some of Argentina's up and comers like coco, Iturbe, Paredes, Icardi, Botta, Ferryra, Depaul, Vietto, Ocampos, Mino, Zuculini, Kranevitter, Correa, Musacchio and Peruzzi I'm filled with hope and optimism for the future and we should remember that 4 years is practically a life time in footballing terms and who knows what talents will reveal themselves in time.


Istiaque
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 12:17 AM
0
I saw PSG's game yesterday just to watch Pastore, and I can tell you...he has changed a bit. Now he isn't trying to dribble out of danger anymore! He is looking composed with the ball, distributing the ball nicely and moving off the ball!

the key thing is, he is moving when he is not in possession to receive and distribute! If he carries this attitude for a season, then he definitely has a bright future with the national team. looks like I'll be watching a lot of PSG games this season.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:20 PM
0
mamoun "elpipita" my friend as always a fantastic and balanced write up and kudos to you sir.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:06 PM
3
Ok my 2 cents:

FF is a solid defender and I've always liked him not to mention that his young age allows time for growth.
With that being said the world cup is the ultimate litmus test for any footballer aiming to prove himself and sadly Federico failed that test. In addition to that Argentina now has plenty of established young defenders (Musacchio, Fazio, Lisandro Lopez and Otamendi) who deserve a shot so it's not a case of "beggars can't be choosers" anymore.
Of the defenders that I mentioned I think Musacchio and to a lesser Extent Otamendi should be the first to be tried.
Musacchio is massively talented, consistent, young (still only 23yrs) and complements Garay the best IMO. His greatest strength is his reading of the game, which explains his high number of interceptions and he's tough as nails.
Otamendi has gotten a bad rep for his WC performance but we all know it wasn't his fault. I personally think his bad WC experience is an asset since he now knows what NOT TO DO! Also Otmanedi has something that non of the other defenders have and that is PACE!

You guys talked alot about Tata's decision to field the same exact team that played at the WC and I have to say that I personally fail to see that point of doing something like that.
I appreciate Tata's gesture to Sabella and the team that went to the final but his kind comments in the press conference was more than enough and now it's time to to think about A.WC 2018 and B.Copa 15 in that order since the NT gets together so rarely and every game is a precious learning experience.

Lastly I've noticed alot of mixed comments about Sabella and I have to throw my opinion in yet again.
I concede that the man wasn't perfect and made some glaring mistakes like his substitutions in the final and the defensive formation he fielded against Bonsnia. But for me personally I will always regard him as a fine coach and a bright spot in Argentina's footballing history.
The guy got the best out of Messi, gave us the Fab 4 (albeit a limited time), was big enough to acknowledge his mistake and correct it (see the bonsnia game) and adapted very well to an ever changing situation (fab 4 breaking down, Gago and FF failing to perform etc..) by reverting to a 4-4-2 system that made Argentina's defense the talk of the town.
Pablo said something about Argentina parking the bus but it was nothing of the sort, "smart defending" is what I call it and for those of you who want Simione in the future this will be exactly the type of style and defending that you'll see from team when he takes over the reigns.

For me I will likely disagree with alot of Tata's decisions in the coming years but I'm going to reserve any big judgements until I watch the team's performance in Copa, hope you guys will do the same.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:24 PM
0
I also think di maria should stay put as how many years in a row has he been written off at real.m with people saying he will not play, he will rot on the bench etc etc and as always the cream rises to the top and every year di maria always becomes one of their key players.
also cr7 has come out and said do not sell di maria.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:22 PM
1
the game was at 2 am here meaning I was not happy at having my sleep ruined being up at that hour but lamela like the rest of the team were busy as my Tottenham had a player sent off early (23 mins into the game) meaning it changed our game plan and positions of certain players.
the general consensus is he had a solid game, tried hard as it was a physical London derby and was a 6 average rating.

some ratings from spurs fans
"Lamela 6 Did well, not easy for him in a physical game"
"Lamela - A couple of nice runs. Some wayward passes. 6"
"Lamela - 6.75. A tyro at times, dribbling menacingly at Spam's back line and closing down furiously for the entirety of his time on the field. Still looked a bit unconnected from the other lads, though: few stray passes a slight cause for concern"


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:16 PM
0
What happen to Basanta? He's a Fiorentina player, right?


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:13 PM
0
@Pablo,

Have you seen today's match of Tottenham?Whoscored is showing Lamela was tried as AM in a 4-2-3-1 rather than the usual winger.Can you confirm that?

I believe that di maria should stay.Ancelotti trusts and admires him.He is also a locker room favorite.We can hate Real board,but as player Di Maria is in right hand of Ancelotti .


Messay
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:56 PM
0
btw Di Maria is playing right now against Fiorentina and made one heck of a dribble past a few defenders and a beautiful assist, unfortunately it was called an offside, but the fans cheered like crazy for di maria! He is wrecking havoc

His situation is tough for me. I want him to leave Madrid, but i don't know if Man U is the best place for him. I think Man U is a really weak side, they need some major signing just to compete for a top 4 place. No champions league this year, and most likely next year as well...

I wish city, would rescue him!


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:55 PM
0
Messay: very true and their is no doubt he is very gifted and yes a delicious looking midfield that would and could be.

who know why the change in attitude from him, perhaps watching the w/c from the side lines woke him up but all I can say is long may his form continue as we really need a player like him in the n/t and the same goes for lamela who also could have a fantastic future ahead of him and poc is working hard with lamela.


Messay
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:35 PM
1
you took the words straight out of my mouth regarding Pastore! and Yes Pablo.d, he just needs to be consistent...

I have often thought "if only he realizes how unique he really is" His skills is a rarity in todays game. What has impressed me most from his last couple games is, his defensive intensity and how much he is demanding the ball.

He is no longer deferring to other players... he is picking up the ball and distributing it wonderfully! I hope he continues... A midfield of Masche, Biglia, Flaco, and angelito is mouth watering...


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:13 PM
1
Mafioso: thanks for the pastore update, lets hope he can continue his progress and their is no doubt he has the skill but needs to be consistent.
I for one hope he can as a player like him is exactly what the n/t needs.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 2:14 PM
3
Pastore is receiving praises from fans all over the internet.Can he finally establish his name as major superstar this year?We need someone bright outside of Messi generation.

A Pastore-Masche-Biglia midfield trio will solve the issue of balance between defensive solidity and attacking flair.We can have Di Maria-Higuain-Messi as the forward line.Di Maria and Pastore's defensive contribution is significant.At least 8 man defending.On the other hand,attacking-wise you have pastore's passing and vision,Di maria's pace and skills...That's some nice prospect.

During today's match against Bastia,Pastore had 142 touches and 87% passing accuracy.But stats don't tell you the special things he did in the field.He is not only determined and confident,but also he is enjoying the play.


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 2:06 PM
1
I know the midfield helped the defence but doesn't mean that Demchelis didn't perform better than FF once he replaced him in the back. Sabella is the best coach merely because he reached the final? Is reaching the final that much of an overachievement for Argentina that you have to overrate Sabella like that? Sabella for sure got better results than the former coaches. That doesn't make him the best, at least not in my book. Do you really think the 1998 and 2006 teams didn't deserve to go further than they did?

How do you know FF will be with Argentina for the next 5 years? And where did you get those other 9 won't have a future under Tata?!


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 2:02 PM
0
kidulthood:we don,t know who tata will call so let us wait and see


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:55 PM
0
In come Santiago Vergini who will be ahead of guys like Fazio under Tata..

Gonjalo X

Demichelis X

Fazio X

Palacio X

Orion X

Maxi X

Gago X

Jacob X

Tevez X

None of these guys have a future under Tata management.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:50 PM
0
Chainsaw: Swansea bought FF not a loan deal..

AS I said, the midfield was what kept Argentina defense solid throughout the entire second round..Garay was also shaky in the first three group games, better yet, Garay was not that impressive against Bosnia and Nigeria..

It don't matter how good of a defense you have, if the middle is weak then your defense will get expose..Sabella included Biglia and Perez then all of a sudden the back line was stable. Not taking anything away from the defenders but without the midfield of Masche, Biglia, Perez and our GK Romero, we would have not made the final...Sabella is the best coach Argentina had in over 28 years..The man is a hero and will always be ahead of guys like Perkeman in the history book.

The thing is, you can argue about FF all you want but he will be with Argentina for the next 5 years, so this conversation is not worth having..


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:35 PM
2
On this planet Earth where every decision that Sabella made is right in your head!

Ever since FF started to be a regular CB for Argentina up until the WC many were questioning this decision. For the same reason many thought the Argentina's defence is gonna be their Achilles heel in the WC. Argentina's defence actually started to look solid once FF was dropped. Coincidence? I think not.

And so much for FF being a starter under Benitez that he was loaned out to Swansea this season! I think the main reason Benitez played him as a starter in some matches was more because he had no better options at the bench.


Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:30 PM
0
Neither FF is good nor musachchio and fazio are good. Replace shit player FF with gonjalo or even use rojo as a centre back... Fazio and musachchio pair totally sucks against nigeria friendly....otamendi remind me as a cannabaro but he totally flops when given chances for argie.... I really want tata to build new pair for garay( money oriented player)....... Player from zenit, swansea and old demiceles is really a JOKE .......... Time to replace.....


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:23 PM
0
Any news on rojo and di maria??


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:06 PM
0
kid:it was rumor before


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:01 PM
0
guled: That's old news, that was reported like 3wks ago..Now only if Valencia can snatch up Enzo Perez.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:00 PM
0
Chainsaw: FF was a regular starter under Rafael Benitez last season..On which planet is Fazio and Mussachio better than FF? Fazio I like, but he's nowhere better than FF, the same goes for Mussachio..Seems like you only watch the world cup games with FF.Did you watch the WCQ qualifiers or any other games Argentina played apart from the world cup tournament?



guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:58 PM
0
Bruno zuculini is off to Valencia for one year loan that is great news, Valencia is doing good in the transfer market


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:50 PM
2
Kid, FF's usual self is not great either. He wasn't even a definite starter for his club Napoli under different coaches. Musacchio and Fazio are both better than him. You're only defending him because your flawless Sabella believed in him. There was and there is no unfair treatment toward him here. The only unfair thing is that he was picked ahead of much better defenders and even his biggest believer n the world Alejandro Sabella realized he's not up for the task after some matches in the WC.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:06 PM
1
guled: FF got injured that's why he was ''dropped'' by Sabella..

The mistakes happen because of the midfield that included Gago..Its when Biglia and Perez came in along side Mascherano that Argentina defense got stable..Demi had little to do most of the time all due to the work of Masche, Biglia and Perez..Notice the chance Robben had in extra time was when he blew pass Demichelis? It was Masche the one who bailed out Demichelis with a world class block.

One more thing, about FF..It was Gago fault why Nigeria scored the second goal when he played a deflected back pass in the path of the Nigerian striker..Argentina was complacent against Bosnia and they gave up a goal, that's it..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:57 AM
2
Dinucci: I'm not saying FF had a great world cup..He was well below his usual self of what we saw of him during the qualifiers..But this does not mean he can't recover from a below par world cup..I for one, would take FF over Fazio and Mussachio any day..

You guys want to bash FF, then by this standard, Aguero and Higuain are horrible strikers and should be playing in Qatar league..

Chainsaw: Well someone has to stand up for the players and coaches when people treat unfairly..


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:55 AM
2
kidulthood:i never said pique and luiz are great defenders, as for Fernandez I said he may became good in the future but he is not right now, he couldn,t do the basics at the world cup and his biggest admirer(sabella) dropped him and the defense became solid after that with less mistakes,i doubt martino will start him and like I said even his inclusion as back up is in doubt


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:45 AM
0
Kid fernandez was below par but he is still young. He is a great defender but he needs to keep his nerves calm.


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:42 AM
2
Kidulthood defend everything that Sabella did. Defending FF is another one of those.


baker
(India)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:37 AM
0
lamela sub at 60th min


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:32 AM
0
guled: got to disagree with you..How did Fernandez ''failed'' at the world cup? I could name a dozen defender at the last world cup that are suppose to be top class defenders yet they had a horrible world cup..You might not like FF but the Swansea fans are loving his signing to the club, they appreciate him because they see a good player in him..I'm guessing you think Pique and Luiz are good defenders?

Greatness will come with time, no one on the Argentina team currently is a great defender..We have a solid unit of players in the back..There isn't no great defenders in world football anymore, the days of great defenders are long gone..When guys like Thaigo and Ramos are always consider the two best defenders in the world then that tell you the state of defending currently in world football.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:20 AM
0
Federico Fernandez may grow to be good defender in the future but right now he is not national team material, sabella trusted him and kept faith in him but he failed at the world cup and looked terrible,demi who is older did better then him.
Fernandez was never great defender in first place he is limited player but he has a lot of heart and enthusiasm and that is why sabella kept him but even sabella had to drop him, I don,t think martino will start him even his inclusion as back up in the team is in doubt


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 10:17 AM
0
@Mafioso: yea I saw it..Yea, Montero got crazy pace on the wing..



Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:56 AM
0
@kid,

Swansea has just beated Man Utd by 2-1.Swanseas has also
bought a very good player,Jeff Montero.Remember him from
Ecuador game?He can give torrid time to any RB.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:47 AM
0
Mafioso: Agree 100% with you..This is actually a great career move for Fernandez.Some might not see it as such because its not Real, Chelsea, Man city or Barca..


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:42 AM
1
@Kid,

FF was great when he was playing for Getafe.His best games with nt were also during the getafe spell.I've always believed that Italian football does not suit him,where they defend deep.Fede is technically sound and good tackler.He is best suited for open football.Swansea is actually the spanish style club of BPL.I believe that he will do well.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:14 AM
2
I like Fazio a lot but after seeing him playing against Real Madrid lately, he reminds me of Pique too much..I don't know about Fazio partnering Garay at the back..Say what you want about Federico Fernandez, but the CB position will be his for many years come..Fernandez will get better at Swansea( yes Swansea)as time goes on..Fernandez was slow to react to some of the balls during the world cup but what people don't realize is that he won majority of the crosses that came from set piece against us..I'm not a big fan of the BPL but I always like it for defenders..If you notice Demichelis have never look this steady in is entire career, all since his move to the BPL..

This what the Swansea coach had to say about FF:"His age is very good for us. He is a good size and he is a very good footballer. I think having spoken to him and his agent he will be a quality addition to our squad."

I agree totally with Messay and Mafioso..These bloggers speaks words of wisdom about the situation..

Messay: '' If you told me a few years ago That Argentina will play Switzerland, Belgium, Holland & Germany and only concede 1 goal (in extra time of a final)... I would have laughed at you.'' Great line!!!



Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 8:20 AM
0
@Abnormal,

Fazio is also a left-sided CB,almost a copy of Garay.If you are looking for a "Luisao",then it is Fazio's partner Pareja,he is 30.At this moment,only young and good enough right sided CB is Musacchio.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 7:43 AM
2
Football is one of the biggest businesses of the world,literally.Football is a profession,a very professional profession :)


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 6:36 AM
0
"Investigate before you initiate"
very true in business but this is football and any coach can watch any of the players play a thousand times for their clubs and or the n/t (sure its less games for the n/t) without ever leaving the comfort of their homes.

the only thing a coach cant see is what an individual does and reacts in training but that will always be for unknown as players come and go from any n/t.

their should be no rewarding or honouring the players or the past coach, we lost and that is about it, we lost and it really no longer matter how we lost we did and nothing is going to change that sadly.
we should never honour failure and as the w/c is about one thing only for a country like Argentina-winning it not 2nd place or less and to be honest some of the players in that final do not deserve to be honoured (sure some do).
if we want to honour players lets gets back zenetti 145 caps, pasarealla w/c winner, maradona w/c winner, simione 108 caps, etc etc

what im saying is its time to move on and forget the final game night mere and do every thing in our powers to make next time a winners medal but being stuck in the past with the same team who have just lost a w/c final is not a good start.





pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 6:18 AM
0
"This friendly is utterly meaningless"

yes it is but worse is its a bad case lose lose for us as if we win the game it will hurt even more having lost the w/c final and what could have been
for us and who really cares about winning yet another meaningless friendly vs ger but if we lose this game its a bad look being twice losers and failing to gain back any sort of pride, add to it this would be a bad start for the new coach.

this game requires a mixture of the old and some new
to save some face no matter what the result.



Messay
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 6:03 AM
3
@mafioso, great posts

There is a saying... "Investigate before you initiate"!

Anyone who has ever been a leader, a manager, a director knows that when they come in into a new institution as a leader, manager or director... the first thing one must do is "Investigate". Before any reformation, one must first examine!

Tata, is appointed a few weeks before a friendly... (a friendly many of us are calling meaningless! so the man said, i will select the same team that took us to our first final of a world cup in 24 years... and somehow that is considered a weakness?)

This friendly is utterly meaningless, if there is a time to give a real goodbye to some of the players that most likely will never be brought back to the national team... it is this game!

Tata, is extremely wise for doing this... as Kidd mentioned, this not only rewards the players, but it honors sabella!

say what you want about the man, but before sabella took over, we had the worst defense amongst the top teams... He radically changed that defense and turned it into one of the best, if not the best! If you told me a few years ago That Argentina will play Switzerland, Belgium, Holland & Germany and only concede 1 goal (in extra time of a final)... i would have laughed at you. But Sabella did it. All those teams hardly even threatened us!

I am glad tata isn't coming trying to radically change the team... again, let him investigate everything before initiating changes that are needed. No harm in such a wise approach!



Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 5:02 AM
4
@Pablo,
Dear sir,I believe that Martino said it clearly why he decided to call same wc squad: reward to players and respect to Sabella's work!Yes it is not a usual descision from a new coach,new coachs always try to implement his ideas from the very begining.But this a great descision.

Football is not only about skill in the field.The environment within the nt is probably the best since decade.Remember the the sadness and pain we felt as fan after the tragic loss at final,we can be sure the it is greater for the players who worked hard for it.A re-union will make them feel better,will install self-belief and motivated for the upcoming challenges.And these factors matter not only for football,but for every job in the real world.

Calling same WC squad,authorty over the youth teams signifies a steady,long term plan using the solid foundation achieved by Sabella.The current squad consists the core of future developement.And through this match, Martino will be able to meet this "core players" personally.

@Travis,

As you mentioned,mundo posters can tell which players to drop and who to not,Martino can not-so this is his first weakness."Seeing players at TV as fan and seeing them at training as manager has huge difference"-This type of lines were mentioned numerous times at mundo...

People! you are quick to identify a manager's weakness from his first interview? In this case,I've started to believe that many of you are world-class mentalist or people with 100% success record in real life and 0% in wrong descision making.
Yes Martino has shown a weakness: That is "respect"...As today's people considers respect as a weakness!




theAbsurdOne
(India)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 5:01 AM
3
A big NO to those who want to see Rojo partnering Garray in central defense. I have been watching Garray from his Santander days and I can assure you that he don't have played RCB in any single season apart from few unexpected situations. The perfect partner for him ever was Luisao in Benfica.Luisao may be slow but he got excellent positioning,aerial power and sweeper ability which is something similar to Fazio.Infact Rojo is not a partner to Garray but is a direct replacement. If there ever was a chance for Garray to be placed in RCB it would have been on QF of worldcup.So forget the Rojo-Garray cb dream.
***Defensive highline or packed defense or what ever the tactics what we need is quality defenders whose primary attribute is to defend.
***On current form and ability I will select 7 defenders:-
Zabaleta-Fazio-Garray-Rojo as starters and Peruzzi,Musachio and Orban as backups since I regard Rojo as backup to Garray.
***I want Tata to be a strong character and would really like a statement like "Nobody is more important than Argentina as a team,if you want to be in the team you need to earn your place. I repeat I'm really bad at reading CLUB profile" Would die to hear something like that from Tata


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:34 AM
0
the end of the interview says on tevez....
"For now that is not an issue as Martino will name the same 23-man squad that Sabella took to Brazil but it will be interesting to see who will be called up once Martino is calling the shots"

strange he is the man in charge but is not calling the shots? but he made the decision to keep the 23 as "a reward"-is he or is he not making the decisions.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:31 AM
0
diego86: here is his words and read it as you see it.
"When asked what will be his first squad for the friendly match on September 3rd in Dusseldorf against World Champions, Germany, Martino maintained the stance that had been suggested previously.

“For the match against Germany I will pick the same players who were at the World Cup as a reward. I will travel to Europe to see players, but not now for the match against Germany.”


Diego86
(Australia)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:15 AM
0
As usual, the coach has not taken any action yet, and already received criticism! Maybe he just meant the core players of WC 2014 will be there ;)


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:19 AM
2
pablo d is right...martino showed his first weakness, not sure who should stay with him and who's not.
someone who never been a coach of his life the likes of us here such as me, pablo, kidulthood, arg2014, already knows who to be exclude from the team. yet martino need a game to see all that??? if that is the reason, then i think this is such a weak start from him.
anyway the match against germany is pointless. we don't need to prove anything. maybe tata should place the best of argentina from 1990-2014 players, maradona included.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:09 AM
2
Mafioso: with respect sir but martino has already said in an interview posted here that he will call the same 23 who played in the w/c.

some of us are saying we need to call into the squad some new players to replace the likes of maxi or pal for example whos time is up.

for me its not about radical changes for this game but to bring in a few players into the set up to let them get a feel of it and if by some chance they get on the field to grab the coaches attention 100%.

to play the same 23 is pointless and for me shows the coach is lacking idea's already and im sure in the interview with the afa for the job he was asked what he plans to do with the team as the jobs has already started.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 2:52 AM
3
It is funny that Martino is already being criticized.People have no patient at all.On what basis Martino will call new untested players?pre season?Or the gossips about particular "young prodigy"?


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:05 AM
1
guled: so true and Gago was always going to be a big problem as he was sabella's only real plan to link the mid to the strikers, pre w/c some of us did say we needed to try others in that position and not to put the eggs in the gago basket as he was injured.

I remember writing when gago got injured before the w/c to forget him and find as best we can a replacement for him and if he regains fitness and form it would be a big bonus for us but sabella did not as we know.

im like you also understand the taking of kun & hig but not the back up strikers at all and again some of us said pre w/c do you really expect lav or pal to come off the bench to win us a game? we were not wrong and their zero goals between them says it all-again sabella got it very wrong in his pre w/c plans & selections.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:24 AM
2
Pablo.d: you are right sabella never had plan b and that was bad calculation, not only no cover for di maria but gago is the bigger issue in my opinion because sabella knew he was unfit yet took him instead of banega who might have offered something in terms of creativity, but i am not gonna blame him on taking aguero and higuain because any coach would have done similar, despite that we still reached the final in part thanks to his tactics


Bruce Wayne
(India)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:11 AM
0
@kidulthood - spot on, i still wonder how people are glorifying germany as the best team in the tournament. Guys, how can anyone say that after watching germany vs algeria game, algeria should've won the game by clear margin. germany vs ghana - ghana played the better game and it was their game to win actually.The truth is every big team stumbled. EACH AND EVERY TEAM!


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 10:49 PM
1
guled: true but if sabella wanted to play counter attacking where was di marias replacement ( my self i think it was di maria's loss that really effected sabellas A plan) to implement this? or more to the point why did he not use some one to do that role as best as they could as we did have the likes of an alverez or maybe use lavezzi their but no he used no one-bad planning maybe?
to me it seemed he was hoping messi( with little ball given to him) could do it all and this was always going to be a tough ask when you are heavily as marked as messi with no support around him or for him.

the bad luck we did have was 90% before the w/c kicked off as its was unbelievable to see the team suffer injuries to the 4 most important players we had at the time to he teams play/plan in messi (who was still recovering) kun, hig, gago and then to lose of di maria was a complete disaster for the teams A plan, we did have planty of time to select cover for the 1st 4 but sabella choose not to do this and no plan B incase that did not recover in time.



pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 9:57 PM
1
ddr1123: the final loss was not bad luck at all it is called bad finishing and then bad positioning by hig to be caught off side when we did get the ball in the net, bad luck (for them) was the kraut header that hit the post, that is bad luck as an inch one way they have scored, bad luck was them losing kedarh in the warm up or losing a player 23 mins in the final.
bad luck is not taking off a player who is having a fantastic game at half time and bringing on a player who was really poor all tournament in kun and then gago-that is bad tactics/coaching and made no sense if sabella planned to play super defensive (did he really have a game plan?)

im sorry but sabella got it wrong and if any one think stumbling your way to a final is brilliant tactics its not, we were convincing vs no one.
we were lucky the swiss did not get to at least pens, the Dutch had the better of the game and pens are a lottery and really unfair on who ever loses and in the final we simply did not do enough.

if sebella wants to play the game he did then he should have pick a big old fashioned striker to hoof the ball up to, we did not have one.

as you said and were correct if that is the way sabella wanted to play the game then its even more criminal as he really did take the wrong mix of players to the w/c, personally I think sabella really got lost and the injuries really threw out his plan and sadly he really did not have a plan b.

as im sure you all know im still really guttered by the final loss and angry at the final loss but if we had won it (the same in 1990) I would have taken vicroty in a hart beat but reality is we were really poor and making a final does not at all hide that fact for me and sabella got far more wrong then he did right.

Ive always said its about one thing only and that is winning the w/c and nothing else is acceptable for Argentina and any coach, that for me will always be true.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 8:33 PM
0
Martino can make the team more creative with out high line defense, I don't like highline defense and it is risk way to play against fast counter attacking teams, Germany were employing that highline and we got many chances only luck stood in the way , also brazil will be more defensive team with dunga as coach and they will be our main rivals in the copa 2015, we need to win that trophy to prepare for 2018


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 8:03 PM
0
Germany back line is not the quickest in the world yet they kept an athletic French team at bay..You don't need to be quick in order to be a defender, what you need is to be a smart defender..Demichelis is not quick yet he was more effective against Germany and Holland attackers than Brazil - Luiz, Dante and Thiago ( who was shred to pieces by the Dutch attack).


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 8:02 PM
0
I hope martino proves himself


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 6:58 PM
1
Rojo can partner garay as center back, he is faster and good as center back , we will see what tata does but rojo is good option


El Payaso
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:58 PM
0
By the way, I dont know if these "slow" players will fit in Tata's system especially if he's playing a high line.
let's wait and see


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:58 PM
0
El Coronel: That's not true..You might not like FF but he's a talented defender/player who will get better as time goes on..During the 2014 qualifiers, FF was solid for us..FF and Romero were the sole reason Argentina left Chile with 3 points..FF also closed down Falcao for an entire game..

I agree that FF was not on form at the world cup.Some of the world so call best defenders at the 2014 world cup performed worse than FF..Ramos, Pepe, Chellini, Godin, Pique, David Luiz, Dante, Marcelo, Alba, Bruno Alves etc were no better than Federico Fernandez at the 2014 world cup..


El Payaso
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:55 PM
2
I believed it was a bad selection overall by Mr Sabella. That's where it all started.

Bt I must admit that he made the most of what he had at his disposal. Argentina's back line (Garay, Demi, Fede, Zab) and midfield (Biglia, gago) lacked speed. Therefore, the best he could do is have the defense + midfield sit deep in front of out goal, and reduce the all possible running space. Otherwise, I think our defense wouldve gotten exposed big time.

On the other hand, this did not help our front line at all. Our attackers became way too isolated, and then they had to work way too much to help recover the ball. Messi and Lavezzi had no support. On many occasion they made some good runs, bt couldnt find anyone else to finish the action.



KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:38 PM
6
Ok, are we going to talk about ''luck'' as if Argentina was the only team benefited from it at this summer world cup..

Lets put things into perspective here.It seems like some bloggers here forget what happen at the 2014 world cup.

A. Brazil was terrible for the entire world cup and should have never got pass Chile let alone Colombia..They got a joke of a penalty call in the first game of the world cup which swung the game from Croatia..Brazil tied with Mexico and there best game was against the worse team at the world cup, Cameroon.

B. Holland struggled against Australia conceding 2 goals with Australia having the chance to score an easy goal to take a 3 - 2 lead instead the Australian forward flunk in front of goal...Holland struggled against both Mexico and Costa Rica.

C. Germany tied with Ghana, only manage to defeat USA by 1 goal and they barely got pass Algeria in the round of 16 in extra time winning 2 - 1..Then again they barely defeat France.

D. Costa Rica eliminated so call power house teams like Italy and England during the group stage..

E. Where was Portugal? Oh, the USA eliminated them from the group stage..

F. Germany was ''lucky'' against Argentina during the world cup final..They were just fortunate to win the cup...apart from Germany having more possession, Argentina look the stronger team..Possession means,squat when you look at at it..Spain had 60 plus percentage against the Netherlands yet they lost 5 - 1..Argentina could have easily had the same result against Germany like what Holland did to Spain, only if Higuain had a steady head..Just look how cool Robben and Van Persie was with their one on one situation..

Let's get one thing straight here friend, all the teams struggled at the 2014 world cup..You guys come on here saying Argentina was ''lucky.'' Name me one team at the world cup that had an easy game? I mean Brazil was just a JOKE, I don't even count them as a team, the way they perform against Germany.

Guys we need to calm down, Tata just got the job..Of course we will have fresh players, new and old ones on the squad..Several of the guys on the current squad wont be young enough to play at the next world cup or even Copa 2015.So why this panicking? When Tata haven't even lift a ball in training..Tata should just dump half of the team one month and a half after just playing in a world cup final? Tata is not this kind of person, and only a horrible human being would do such thing..Tata is dealing with the situation with grace and humility..Using the exact world cup squad against Germany in September wont affect the outcome of next summer Copa America and future world cup qualifiers..


DD
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:37 PM
0
yeah... central defense is not an area of concern for us. So, we shouldn't be spending time talking about FF. Before he gets another chance, we should look at plenty of guys who are waiting for their first 'real chance': Fazio, Musacchio, Mammana, Lisandro, Otamendi


El Coronel
(Brazil)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:07 PM
0
What is the need to defend Fede Fernandez?
I waited his three years as a starter on the team, twisting every game, and all friendlies he being one of the worst in the team, he has improved only in the final friendlies and the best thing he did was a goal against Brazil.
Arrives at the World Cup in the first game and the guy is already the main culprit at gol suffered... http://globotv.globo.com/rede-globo/copa-do-mundo-2014/v/os-gols-de-argentina-2-x-1-bosnia-pela-1a-rodada-do-grupo-f-da-copa-do-mundo/3421738/ - and who remembers well this game will see that in the end he almost gave the equalizer.
Even though he is a young man of 25 years does not mean that it will improve suddenly and is totally far from one the best in the world, I prefer the space to be given to another young defender and better than him or that Fede be the 5° option de CB.


ddr1123
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 4:50 PM
0
@pablo.D
I agreed to your first paragraph. I was about to give you a thumbs up but then totally disagreed with the most of the remaining post.

The biggest truth is Sabella played exactly the way he wanted to play. Its not true that he did not know what to do or what he is doing. Yes, we were a park the bus team but that is what he wanted to do. We did not create too many chances because that is what his plan was. Sit back, create 2-3 chances and capitalize and win. With the top class finishers we had, he believed 2-3 chances will be good to score 1-2 goals. Whether we like it or not, he almost went all the way with his plan. In the final it was bad luck. Often you have a guy who keeps missing sitters and you wonder why all the chances are going to him? Here in our case Messi, Higuain, Palacio all got a golden chance and all flopped. How rare? If any of them would put it in, we have the world cup today.

Did he mistakes, YES, he certainly DID. I still do not understand why he took Lavezzi out? But that is not the reason why Argentina lost. The reason was Messi, Palacio and Higuain could not score. Otherwise, Sabell a had his plan working.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 4:28 PM
2
@pablo.d, you are right about sabella looking confused on the first games but some of players didn't help the situation when they demanded a formation change in front of media in my opinion that was wrong, also we must remember sabella never liked fab 4 that was never his team, the team became sabella team after the quarterfinal, sabella is defensive coach his teams barely attack they absorb pressure and hit on the counter, it is true we were lucky in the first few games and the team was chaotic, but after the second round sabella tactics took us to the final and of course little bit of luck but the defense became solid and opponents barely get a chance that is a sabella doing so we must give him credit


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 3:29 PM
3
we need to stop this deluded love for the players and sabella as reality is we bumbled and stumbled our way to the final, kudos to him for getting us their but reality is
we were really crap in our 1st 3 games.
we then became a park the bus team.
we created very few chances for our players all w/c.
we scored 2 goals in all of the knock out stages(480 mins of football).
he risked every thing on injured players-it back fired on us.
failed to take adequate back ups.
his subs were awful and the ones in the final were criminal.
if not for messi and some luck we properly would not have made it from the 1st round.
sure we defended well as we had a very defensive team on the field (no attacking mids) and if you are going to give the opposition 60% of the ball trouble will eventually happen.
in the final we created 1 real chance and 1 in injury time, the other chance was from hummels.

to me it seemed like sabella got to the w/c and did not know what to do, we look any thing like the team in the qualifs and this is all down to team selections and tactics.
we took and relied on far to many injured players and their was no plan b to cover any of them.

again kudos to getting us their but it was not because we played well or brilliant tactics it was purely luck.

its time to move on and yes I want to see some new faces in the team not this "respect" for us stumbling to a final that we actually lost.

as pointed out any 2-5 of these could be in the squad (im not saying to start any of them yet)
but at least in the squadLamela, Icardi, Iturbe, Zuculini, Cabellero, Orban, Ansaldi,Ocampos, Gaitan, Salvio, Rulli, Kranivitter, Musacchio, Lisandro Lopez, Peruzzi, Zarate, pastore.

its time to bring in some new squad players to let the 1st team players know they must fight to keep their shirt.


Argentino Trucho
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 2:42 PM
1
I wonder if he wants to call the whole 23 man squad so they can feel what it's like to beat Germany as a team because they were denied that feeling at the WC.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 2:10 PM
1
Now the club season is on its way, Tata will have time to scout players like Lamela, Icardi, Iturbe, Zuculini, Cabellero, Orban, Ansaldi,Ocampos, Gaitan, Salvio, Rulli, Kranivitter,Musacchio, Lisandro Lopez,Peruzzi, Zarate and many more...WE will now get to see the players that will step up during this new club season and beyond.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:27 PM
1
Thank you Sabella for your time with Argentina, bringing back the Albiceleste to their prominence and respectability.

You will be missed and never forgotten.


DD
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:24 PM
1
there is absolutely no problem in playing the same starting XI that played in the final in this upcoming friendly. But calling all 23 squad members back is something surprising. Eventually, since we did well at the WC, sticking on to 15-16 players from the WC squad would be a logical move. But the other 7-8 members should definitely be replaced with new faces for sure.
U17 & U20?? We don't have to even talk about that. All new NT prospects are in their mid or early 20's.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:17 PM
1
I defended Tata every step of the way at Barcelona, and I will defend him from now until the 2018 world cup..


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:16 PM
0
And yes the door should be open to players like El Apache if need be, I'm all for that as I stated many times in the past.


dollon
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:15 PM
0
after 4 years federico will be world best defended..so
rojo and fede well be our main pair..i am 99% sure about it..i always like federico because of his hight..he is 192 c.m and 25 years old..his ability increases day by day..now he is one of the best in the air...so please dont blame fede and be smart.................


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:14 PM
1
yea, Tata should just go ahead and select a U17 and U23 team players to play against Germany so they can get playing time experience?

If Tata follow you guys it will be Germany 10 vs Argentina 1..Then everyone will start to underrate Argentina players even more..If you guys don't realize that a lot of BIG clubs don't appreciate our players though they're talented than many of the other players in Europe..The way how I see some fans talk about Rojo since his link to Man United is distasteful..If Rojo was Spanish or German, they would be drooling all over him..Di Maria is ranked below James Rodriguez for UEFA player award, which is another slap in the face of Argentinian players across the world..They even snub Messi out of the award top 3..

Tata haven't even set foot on the pitch yet everyone want him to switch all of the players on the team for a bunch of nobodies except for several players..


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:11 PM
0
I don't know if this was discussed but it seems Liverpool is interested in Romero.


DD
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 11:55 AM
3
Wasn't an entire WC enough to judge who should continue & who shouldn't? I don't really understand what did Gago or Palacio really do to get selected again?
Tata may not have time to pick a new team, but just calling up a few familiar names like Pastore, Gaitan & Lamela shouldn't be difficult enough! I hope that happens sooner than later.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 11:48 AM
1
People still bashing Fede Rico? The guy is young and have room to grow..Garay wasn't always this solid, neither was Demichelis..Fede going to Swansea will be a good thing for him..He will be one of Swansea main defenders this season and the ones to come and hopefully he can move up the food chain to a more establish team..

People on here look at BIG clubs as the end all and be all of football..The thing is, Holland went to the world cup with a lot of mid table Premier league players and they got 3rd place..Vlaar play for Aston Villa and he was voted in the best XI at the world cup this summer..

You guys thing Martino will make this radical change to the team then think again..The only players that are on their way out are the ones in their 30's..

A. Andujar just sign with Napoli he will continue to be a NT goalkeeper that's for sure..

B. Fede Fernandez is just 25, so he wont be going anywhere any time soon.

Demichelis, Campagrano, Maxi, Palacio,and Gago will be the ones making way for new players..

Tata will keep the core of players together so he can win COPA America.

Tata all the best to you and the team..Lets go win all these friendly games this year follow up with major trophy trumps in 2015 and 2016..


vish
(India)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 11:40 AM
2
Hope Tata has luck on his side. However much you plan you do require an element of luck. I thought Sabelle did a great job and i personally feel for the gentleman. He gave his all and it was not his fault that 3 strikers had one on one chances and could not score. The coach cannot plan for such conditions as the pressure of a final cannot be experienced before hand and get acclimatised to. I am pretty sure that Sabelle would have rehearsed one one one many times and our strikers would have had 75% success. It still haunts and hurts and gives me sleepless nights. Anyway all the best to Tata and may he build on Sabella"s solid foundation.


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 10:46 AM
0
It's probably both giving respect to a team that made it to the final after 24 years and having a final look them to decide who deserve to continue with the team.


Juli2014
(Argentina)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 10:26 AM
0
I think he's using the same team because he doesn't have time to pick a new team. He just got the job! I can't wait to see who he picks after though...


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 10:21 AM
1
The players who should be left out after the Germany friendly IMO:

Orión, Andujar, Campagnaro, Gago, Maxi Rodríguez, Augusto Fernandez, Federico Fernandez and Palacio.

I will give Demichelis another chance because he did good in the WC. I never liked him but he deserves to be in the squad if he continues his WC form for Argentina. After the Copa we could say goodbye to him.


El Coronel
(Brazil)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 10:16 AM
0
Fede Fernandez must leave, I really believed him, but during all these years, he evolved into almost nothing.


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 7:37 AM
0
Ab, this time I would root for Athletico Madrid and not my Barcelona or old flames Manchester United & Liverpool.
.
Howz yr secret love Valencia shaping up....?
.
On paper Real Madrid is the best team by far far margin but v never know....
.
@msi, Brother has Pablo Aimar joined River Plate?.... Not getting any news on him in this part of the world.... U always have the correct information...
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Has a new football style formulated???? who is the founder???? Which team plays it???..... News will be out soon..... Like tiki taka now even counter attacking football is past it????
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Wow thatz some news....


Gilly
(India)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:08 AM
0
msi2 : "but it's clear Tata does have his preferences that may not match the expectations of some here" - well this sends some chill in the spine !

Oh btw, welcome Tata and wish you the best with our beloved NT - do good !


HollywoodHayat
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 5:03 AM
0
@msi2, true Lamela might not fit into the systems Martino likes to play. He prefers box-to-box midfielders and wingers that can dribble, cut, and score. Idk if Lamela can play those roles but we never really know. I know Lamela played there with Roma but its hard to tell because he wasnt asked to defend much back then and im not sure if hes a dribble first kind of winger, he tends to dictate the tempo.

It will be interesting to see and another interesting aspect to look at is who will be his box-to-box midfielders?

There will be many changes in personnel and style of play. I doubt he keeps Sabella's defense due to the fact that he plays a high pressure game with high lines which is the opposite of Sabella


fotobirajesh
(India)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 4:36 AM
0
All the best Sir.

I have expressed my concerns about Martino here already, and from my experience with Barca matches, he do not impress me with his tactical acumen.
But, whatever, he is now the coach of Argentina and I wish him all the best. I will be glad to eat my words. So Vamos Tata.


Neal
(India)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 4:27 AM
0
Martino should bring the beautiful style of our play which was eventually absent in the Sabella's era.. He should also bring some new faces in the team like Lamela, Pastore, Icardi, Iturbe, Anjel Correa etc.. All of them are eagerly waiting for a National Team call up !! Go ahead Tata.. Best of Luck (y)


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 3:32 AM
0
travis: I agree their are easy cuts to make, now who to give some chances to from lamala, past, gat, icardi etc


vishk
(India)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 3:21 AM
0
Still feeling a bit depressed about the final. When Messi missed in second half after the sitter missed in first half I had a feeling that this was not our time. No one can change destiny.
But a bright chapter in terms of Afa appointment as they chose to give the responsibility to a single person to manage the senior and junior team.
A bit tough but a great going forward. It will create better understanding b/n the teams themselves as they know what to expect in terms of playing pattern and style.
Hope he will be able to land the Copa this time and create a winning attitude within the team.
Thay say once you taste success, your hunger for it multiples.
So lets start on a bright note like last time by thrashing Germany at their backyard.

Vamos Albiceleste!!



travis
(Japan)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 3:20 AM
1
welcome to him. calling back the 23 players for the germany friendly? i assume he wanted to see which player he wants to keep and who he don't want to be in his squad??? i think that's pretty easy; andujar, orion, demi, fede, campa, basanta, gago, palacio, lavezzi, alvarez, augusto, maxi, tevez etc.

he should do better than sabella. sabella has 3 years and brought argentina to the final. tata have 4 years, so what can he possibly do???
goodluck tata!!!


msi2
(France)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 3:00 AM
0
Maxi will probably last until the next Copa unless injuries bite... As for Lamela... it seems he was a favourite of Sabella but no one knows if Martino likes him. We will see... but it's clear Tata does have his preferences that may not match the expectations of some here.


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 2:50 AM
1
Building on Sabella's legacy is the way forward because Sabella fixed our defense. Selecting the same 23 players is a slap in the face of players who have come back from injury (for example: Lamela) and those who are doing very well in the build up to the season (for example: Pastore).

Klose and Lahm retired from German squad. Isn't it time some players retire from Argentina? (Maxi, Palacio)


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 2:30 AM
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vish: sadly it means nothing as we lost the one that counted, lahm and klose have retired as well.


Thang
(Vietnam)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 2:02 AM
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Wish him all the best!


vish
(India)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 1:25 AM
1
If he is giving the wc team another chance to beat Germany,that is great news. It will prove that our team is better than the German bastards. This match will vindicate our team and Sabella, after it was bad not luck that defeated us and not anything else.
VAMOS ARGENTINA


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:51 AM
0
Welcome and good luck.


msi2
(France)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:07 AM
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Off Topic but a couple of info about our sub-20 playing the tournament in Spain... They beat mauritania 1-0 in their 1st game (Leszcuzk, great goal), they won their 2nd against Barcelona 2-1 (Leszcuzk again with a golazo and Rios).

Also looks like Tiago Casasola has been transfed to Fulham.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/15/2014 at 12:02 AM
0
welcome martino, he said the doors are open to every one imo doesn,t mean tevez but rather any player out there who is good enough to bring something to the team with out causing trouble, martino is not a fool he will continue what sabella built and not go back to maradona and batista failed ways


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 8/14/2014 at 11:15 PM
3
All I can say is welcome Tata and I sincerely wish you the best of luck because if you do well then the albicelestes do well and that's all I want.

Many of us wanted Sabella to stay but alas it wasn't meant to be; and many more still wanted someone other than Tata but that wasn't meant to be either.
Like every other manager Tata has his pros and cons and I'm not gonna get into'em because we've all discussed them to death.
I will say one thing for Martino though, him taking the initiative and the added responsibility of managing the junior levels is a huge show of good faith IMO. It tells me that he wants to usher a new era for Argentine football not just for the senior team.
An added bonus is the Tata's cautious approach to the game, which mirror's that of Sabella's to a certain extent and the compliments he payed Sabella in his press conference. This will likely mean that it will be "evolution rather than revolution" and in my opinion that's a wise policy since a solid foundation has already been laid and now we have to build on it.



HollywoodHayat
(United States)
Posted on 8/14/2014 at 10:38 PM
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Is he preferring his Newells style of his Barcelona one?


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/14/2014 at 10:23 PM
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welcome and congrats on the job, we all wish you the best success for our n/t as we deserve some.

if its true, im concerned at you already giving the w/c 23 another game, this is supposed to be your team, your Argentina, you tactics but already you have taken the easy path by not making some real decisions, i hope im wrong as time for friendlies/experimenting before the tournaments begin is not on any n/t managers side.

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