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Tata Sabella, Hola Martino!
A new chapter will finally open for Argentina under the guidance of Gerardo MARTINO as he was finally presented by the AFA as the National Team’s new manager.
 
In his first press conference, the first thing he said was "It's an honor to hold this position."
 
His first task, as we all know will be the friendly against Germany on the 3rd of September. Apparently he will also recall all 23 players who were part of the World Cup squad in Brazil for that friendly but also assured that the doors are open to everyone (perhaps a clear reference to Carlos TEVEZ).  
 
 
His contract will run until the end of the qualification for the 2018 World Cup and will be automatic extended should the team qualify for the actual tournament.
 
In between, he will have plenty tournaments that will keep him busy for the next four years as he is also responsible for managing the Youth team, something which he is keen to look into with regards of bringing in new talent to the senior set up.
 
 
He also gave a hint that he will be looking at the style of play he had adapted with Newell’s Old Boys compared to Barcelona.
 
He did spoke specifically about Lionel MESSI and Javier MASCHERANO, whom he knew too well from his time at Barcelona, saying that "I have the advantage of having worked with them.”
 
With the said, it’s time to welcome everyone to the Tata MARTINO era of Argentina!



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argentine
(Ghana)
Posted on 8/18/2014 at 11:47 AM
0
Icarime di and co should be given chance,for Rodrigo its time to depart with him.


rasel
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 8:59 AM
0
argentina have lot of dribler , accurate through pass maker, fast playergood defensive midfield. argentina should play attacking based football. saella said he will make balanced team and he did but the team was defensive based. i think argentine resources are attackers,play makers they should go with attacking based balance football. first match against germany i did not agree with the squad.why the old squad. germany will play with new players i am sure. argentina should think about next wcup. they should select the younger now. argentina also have to make plan for some specific team...........vamos argentina


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 2:31 AM
0
mamoun "elpipita"
thank you for understanding, it very different from club sides when if they lose a cup final their is always next year but for any n/t redemption is very difficult as we know 4 years is a long time yet alone the 24 years and counting.
I try to prepare before any w/c by thinking its just a game that no matter what I do, say or how I act the reality is I have no control over any result,

I always think how can a game do this to us? when reality is their are far bigger and in reality more important things like people starving, poverty or what direction the world is going in but soon we forget all of that as the escape from every day life for so many is called football, it always creeps it way forward to detract us from what should be real important things in life.
the classic quote: "football is not about life or death its more then that" I know its not true but the power of the game has is unreal.

as for Argentina I never give up hope and never will as the future is always bright for us as we do have a production line of todays and tomorrow's young talent ready to be step up and we always will have world class talent being produced, yes we do seem have a conveyer belt some where hiding away and producing these gladiators.




mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 12:51 AM
1
My dear Pablo you're too kind sir, and I have to say that I feel abit sad when I read your comments because I can "feel" the pain from the world cup loss in your words.
Argentina losing the final was painful for all of us but I always have to remind myself that for you Argentines the pain will likely have an extra sting to it.

To all of you who are still suffering from PTSD because of the final I want you to dust your selves off and smile and I'll tell you why:

Firstly, while it is true that Argentina lost the final it is also true that Argentina regained it's notable reputation and the respect that it lacked after inexplicably failing to make it past the QF for 24 yrs.

Secondly, this world cup has unearthed quite a few gems like Enzo, Biglia, Romero and Rojo; and now we know that because some of our players don't play for a filthy rich club doesn't mean that they're not rich in skill and contribution to the NT.

Thirdly, now that Tata will be taking over the reigns at the junior levels I have hope that Argentina's boat load of bright young talents won't go to waste like the 09, 11, and 13 editions sadly have.

Lastly, looking at some of Argentina's up and comers like coco, Iturbe, Paredes, Icardi, Botta, Ferryra, Depaul, Vietto, Ocampos, Mino, Zuculini, Kranevitter, Correa, Musacchio and Peruzzi I'm filled with hope and optimism for the future and we should remember that 4 years is practically a life time in footballing terms and who knows what talents will reveal themselves in time.


Istiaque
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/17/2014 at 12:17 AM
0
I saw PSG's game yesterday just to watch Pastore, and I can tell you...he has changed a bit. Now he isn't trying to dribble out of danger anymore! He is looking composed with the ball, distributing the ball nicely and moving off the ball!

the key thing is, he is moving when he is not in possession to receive and distribute! If he carries this attitude for a season, then he definitely has a bright future with the national team. looks like I'll be watching a lot of PSG games this season.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:20 PM
0
mamoun "elpipita" my friend as always a fantastic and balanced write up and kudos to you sir.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:06 PM
3
Ok my 2 cents:

FF is a solid defender and I've always liked him not to mention that his young age allows time for growth.
With that being said the world cup is the ultimate litmus test for any footballer aiming to prove himself and sadly Federico failed that test. In addition to that Argentina now has plenty of established young defenders (Musacchio, Fazio, Lisandro Lopez and Otamendi) who deserve a shot so it's not a case of "beggars can't be choosers" anymore.
Of the defenders that I mentioned I think Musacchio and to a lesser Extent Otamendi should be the first to be tried.
Musacchio is massively talented, consistent, young (still only 23yrs) and complements Garay the best IMO. His greatest strength is his reading of the game, which explains his high number of interceptions and he's tough as nails.
Otamendi has gotten a bad rep for his WC performance but we all know it wasn't his fault. I personally think his bad WC experience is an asset since he now knows what NOT TO DO! Also Otmanedi has something that non of the other defenders have and that is PACE!

You guys talked alot about Tata's decision to field the same exact team that played at the WC and I have to say that I personally fail to see that point of doing something like that.
I appreciate Tata's gesture to Sabella and the team that went to the final but his kind comments in the press conference was more than enough and now it's time to to think about A.WC 2018 and B.Copa 15 in that order since the NT gets together so rarely and every game is a precious learning experience.

Lastly I've noticed alot of mixed comments about Sabella and I have to throw my opinion in yet again.
I concede that the man wasn't perfect and made some glaring mistakes like his substitutions in the final and the defensive formation he fielded against Bonsnia. But for me personally I will always regard him as a fine coach and a bright spot in Argentina's footballing history.
The guy got the best out of Messi, gave us the Fab 4 (albeit a limited time), was big enough to acknowledge his mistake and correct it (see the bonsnia game) and adapted very well to an ever changing situation (fab 4 breaking down, Gago and FF failing to perform etc..) by reverting to a 4-4-2 system that made Argentina's defense the talk of the town.
Pablo said something about Argentina parking the bus but it was nothing of the sort, "smart defending" is what I call it and for those of you who want Simione in the future this will be exactly the type of style and defending that you'll see from team when he takes over the reigns.

For me I will likely disagree with alot of Tata's decisions in the coming years but I'm going to reserve any big judgements until I watch the team's performance in Copa, hope you guys will do the same.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:24 PM
0
I also think di maria should stay put as how many years in a row has he been written off at real.m with people saying he will not play, he will rot on the bench etc etc and as always the cream rises to the top and every year di maria always becomes one of their key players.
also cr7 has come out and said do not sell di maria.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:22 PM
1
the game was at 2 am here meaning I was not happy at having my sleep ruined being up at that hour but lamela like the rest of the team were busy as my Tottenham had a player sent off early (23 mins into the game) meaning it changed our game plan and positions of certain players.
the general consensus is he had a solid game, tried hard as it was a physical London derby and was a 6 average rating.

some ratings from spurs fans
"Lamela 6 Did well, not easy for him in a physical game"
"Lamela - A couple of nice runs. Some wayward passes. 6"
"Lamela - 6.75. A tyro at times, dribbling menacingly at Spam's back line and closing down furiously for the entirety of his time on the field. Still looked a bit unconnected from the other lads, though: few stray passes a slight cause for concern"


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:16 PM
0
What happen to Basanta? He's a Fiorentina player, right?


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 4:13 PM
0
@Pablo,

Have you seen today's match of Tottenham?Whoscored is showing Lamela was tried as AM in a 4-2-3-1 rather than the usual winger.Can you confirm that?

I believe that di maria should stay.Ancelotti trusts and admires him.He is also a locker room favorite.We can hate Real board,but as player Di Maria is in right hand of Ancelotti .


Messay
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:56 PM
0
btw Di Maria is playing right now against Fiorentina and made one heck of a dribble past a few defenders and a beautiful assist, unfortunately it was called an offside, but the fans cheered like crazy for di maria! He is wrecking havoc

His situation is tough for me. I want him to leave Madrid, but i don't know if Man U is the best place for him. I think Man U is a really weak side, they need some major signing just to compete for a top 4 place. No champions league this year, and most likely next year as well...

I wish city, would rescue him!


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:55 PM
0
Messay: very true and their is no doubt he is very gifted and yes a delicious looking midfield that would and could be.

who know why the change in attitude from him, perhaps watching the w/c from the side lines woke him up but all I can say is long may his form continue as we really need a player like him in the n/t and the same goes for lamela who also could have a fantastic future ahead of him and poc is working hard with lamela.


Messay
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:35 PM
1
you took the words straight out of my mouth regarding Pastore! and Yes Pablo.d, he just needs to be consistent...

I have often thought "if only he realizes how unique he really is" His skills is a rarity in todays game. What has impressed me most from his last couple games is, his defensive intensity and how much he is demanding the ball.

He is no longer deferring to other players... he is picking up the ball and distributing it wonderfully! I hope he continues... A midfield of Masche, Biglia, Flaco, and angelito is mouth watering...


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 3:13 PM
1
Mafioso: thanks for the pastore update, lets hope he can continue his progress and their is no doubt he has the skill but needs to be consistent.
I for one hope he can as a player like him is exactly what the n/t needs.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 2:14 PM
3
Pastore is receiving praises from fans all over the internet.Can he finally establish his name as major superstar this year?We need someone bright outside of Messi generation.

A Pastore-Masche-Biglia midfield trio will solve the issue of balance between defensive solidity and attacking flair.We can have Di Maria-Higuain-Messi as the forward line.Di Maria and Pastore's defensive contribution is significant.At least 8 man defending.On the other hand,attacking-wise you have pastore's passing and vision,Di maria's pace and skills...That's some nice prospect.

During today's match against Bastia,Pastore had 142 touches and 87% passing accuracy.But stats don't tell you the special things he did in the field.He is not only determined and confident,but also he is enjoying the play.


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 2:06 PM
1
I know the midfield helped the defence but doesn't mean that Demchelis didn't perform better than FF once he replaced him in the back. Sabella is the best coach merely because he reached the final? Is reaching the final that much of an overachievement for Argentina that you have to overrate Sabella like that? Sabella for sure got better results than the former coaches. That doesn't make him the best, at least not in my book. Do you really think the 1998 and 2006 teams didn't deserve to go further than they did?

How do you know FF will be with Argentina for the next 5 years? And where did you get those other 9 won't have a future under Tata?!


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 2:02 PM
0
kidulthood:we don,t know who tata will call so let us wait and see


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:55 PM
0
In come Santiago Vergini who will be ahead of guys like Fazio under Tata..

Gonjalo X

Demichelis X

Fazio X

Palacio X

Orion X

Maxi X

Gago X

Jacob X

Tevez X

None of these guys have a future under Tata management.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:50 PM
0
Chainsaw: Swansea bought FF not a loan deal..

AS I said, the midfield was what kept Argentina defense solid throughout the entire second round..Garay was also shaky in the first three group games, better yet, Garay was not that impressive against Bosnia and Nigeria..

It don't matter how good of a defense you have, if the middle is weak then your defense will get expose..Sabella included Biglia and Perez then all of a sudden the back line was stable. Not taking anything away from the defenders but without the midfield of Masche, Biglia, Perez and our GK Romero, we would have not made the final...Sabella is the best coach Argentina had in over 28 years..The man is a hero and will always be ahead of guys like Perkeman in the history book.

The thing is, you can argue about FF all you want but he will be with Argentina for the next 5 years, so this conversation is not worth having..


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:35 PM
2
On this planet Earth where every decision that Sabella made is right in your head!

Ever since FF started to be a regular CB for Argentina up until the WC many were questioning this decision. For the same reason many thought the Argentina's defence is gonna be their Achilles heel in the WC. Argentina's defence actually started to look solid once FF was dropped. Coincidence? I think not.

And so much for FF being a starter under Benitez that he was loaned out to Swansea this season! I think the main reason Benitez played him as a starter in some matches was more because he had no better options at the bench.


Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:30 PM
0
Neither FF is good nor musachchio and fazio are good. Replace shit player FF with gonjalo or even use rojo as a centre back... Fazio and musachchio pair totally sucks against nigeria friendly....otamendi remind me as a cannabaro but he totally flops when given chances for argie.... I really want tata to build new pair for garay( money oriented player)....... Player from zenit, swansea and old demiceles is really a JOKE .......... Time to replace.....


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:23 PM
0
Any news on rojo and di maria??


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:06 PM
0
kid:it was rumor before


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:01 PM
0
guled: That's old news, that was reported like 3wks ago..Now only if Valencia can snatch up Enzo Perez.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 1:00 PM
0
Chainsaw: FF was a regular starter under Rafael Benitez last season..On which planet is Fazio and Mussachio better than FF? Fazio I like, but he's nowhere better than FF, the same goes for Mussachio..Seems like you only watch the world cup games with FF.Did you watch the WCQ qualifiers or any other games Argentina played apart from the world cup tournament?



guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:58 PM
0
Bruno zuculini is off to Valencia for one year loan that is great news, Valencia is doing good in the transfer market


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:50 PM
2
Kid, FF's usual self is not great either. He wasn't even a definite starter for his club Napoli under different coaches. Musacchio and Fazio are both better than him. You're only defending him because your flawless Sabella believed in him. There was and there is no unfair treatment toward him here. The only unfair thing is that he was picked ahead of much better defenders and even his biggest believer n the world Alejandro Sabella realized he's not up for the task after some matches in the WC.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 12:06 PM
1
guled: FF got injured that's why he was ''dropped'' by Sabella..

The mistakes happen because of the midfield that included Gago..Its when Biglia and Perez came in along side Mascherano that Argentina defense got stable..Demi had little to do most of the time all due to the work of Masche, Biglia and Perez..Notice the chance Robben had in extra time was when he blew pass Demichelis? It was Masche the one who bailed out Demichelis with a world class block.

One more thing, about FF..It was Gago fault why Nigeria scored the second goal when he played a deflected back pass in the path of the Nigerian striker..Argentina was complacent against Bosnia and they gave up a goal, that's it..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:57 AM
2
Dinucci: I'm not saying FF had a great world cup..He was well below his usual self of what we saw of him during the qualifiers..But this does not mean he can't recover from a below par world cup..I for one, would take FF over Fazio and Mussachio any day..

You guys want to bash FF, then by this standard, Aguero and Higuain are horrible strikers and should be playing in Qatar league..

Chainsaw: Well someone has to stand up for the players and coaches when people treat unfairly..


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:55 AM
2
kidulthood:i never said pique and luiz are great defenders, as for Fernandez I said he may became good in the future but he is not right now, he couldn,t do the basics at the world cup and his biggest admirer(sabella) dropped him and the defense became solid after that with less mistakes,i doubt martino will start him and like I said even his inclusion as back up is in doubt


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:45 AM
0
Kid fernandez was below par but he is still young. He is a great defender but he needs to keep his nerves calm.


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:42 AM
2
Kidulthood defend everything that Sabella did. Defending FF is another one of those.


baker
(India)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:37 AM
0
lamela sub at 60th min


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:32 AM
0
guled: got to disagree with you..How did Fernandez ''failed'' at the world cup? I could name a dozen defender at the last world cup that are suppose to be top class defenders yet they had a horrible world cup..You might not like FF but the Swansea fans are loving his signing to the club, they appreciate him because they see a good player in him..I'm guessing you think Pique and Luiz are good defenders?

Greatness will come with time, no one on the Argentina team currently is a great defender..We have a solid unit of players in the back..There isn't no great defenders in world football anymore, the days of great defenders are long gone..When guys like Thaigo and Ramos are always consider the two best defenders in the world then that tell you the state of defending currently in world football.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 11:20 AM
0
Federico Fernandez may grow to be good defender in the future but right now he is not national team material, sabella trusted him and kept faith in him but he failed at the world cup and looked terrible,demi who is older did better then him.
Fernandez was never great defender in first place he is limited player but he has a lot of heart and enthusiasm and that is why sabella kept him but even sabella had to drop him, I don,t think martino will start him even his inclusion as back up in the team is in doubt


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 10:17 AM
0
@Mafioso: yea I saw it..Yea, Montero got crazy pace on the wing..



Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:56 AM
0
@kid,

Swansea has just beated Man Utd by 2-1.Swanseas has also
bought a very good player,Jeff Montero.Remember him from
Ecuador game?He can give torrid time to any RB.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:47 AM
0
Mafioso: Agree 100% with you..This is actually a great career move for Fernandez.Some might not see it as such because its not Real, Chelsea, Man city or Barca..


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 8/16/2014 at 9:42 AM