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Posted by Roy Nemer (Roy Nemer) Wednesday, July 16, 2014 Go To Comments

Geronimo RULLI close to signing with Sociedad

Estudiantes goalkeeper Geronimo RULLI is apparently close to signing with Spanish club Real Sociedad. With Sociedad goalkeeper Claudio BRAVO signing with Barcelona, RULLI would be his replacement at the club.

I had posted a video about RULLI prior to the World Cup. For those who missed it or for those would like to watch it again, here it is.




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pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/22/2014 at 3:10 AM
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" I describe Brazilian squad now like a night girl with no dignity, you know what I mean ;), being scored 10 shots by just 2 generous customers"

that is very funny and true lol


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/22/2014 at 1:02 AM
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Mamoun: Yes that youtube FIFA world cup was funny, my fav. parts are: "just bite it/suarez", Ronaldo "I'm the best player in the world, where is the ball", "Ozil personation", and Brazil vs Mexico when Neymar and co. go "we are scared".

Speaking of Gago, I really admire him but I'm just disappointed in him because he failed to deliver. I like his character as a footballer, he's fit, very proportioned, he also seems cool next door guy and humble.....but he proved he's not a fighter for sure. Same with Higuain and Aguero whom I adore a lot, but they also let me down this whole tournament.

Pablo: I describe Brazilian squad now like a night girl with no dignity, you know what I mean ;), being scored 10 shots by just 2 generous customers.
I mentioned here after their game against Chile that Scolari should have replaced Julio Cesar when he couldn't handle the pressure and cried before the penalty shoot out.....He's a passionate person, and being so emotional doesn't work in tough big battles in the world cup. I thought that was a big blow by Scolari who kept trusting in Cesar.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/21/2014 at 10:33 PM
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@Jason yeah I love Superman and I have to say that RVP's goal has shades of superman all over it and that video you posted made me smile alittle bit! Thanks for that!
As for Brazilian fans well they're no worse than than we are to be honest. Just read some the posts around here where you see people saying that "Argentina is the best ever" or "we were robbed in 1990" or "the USA designed a conspiracy to knock maradona and argentina out of the 1994 WC" etc....
Sports fans in general are a passionate bunch and they tend to go overboard with things.
You will notice that the brazilian fans will be sticking to their past achievements even more now because after that humiliation it seems that their great history is all they got left.

I'm with you on the Tata thing; while he ain't bad he's still a huge step down from Sabella but then again I'm thinking about the Martino that was at Barca and not the Martino that almost took Paraguay all the way so you never know.

You know its really sad about Gago, when he did manage to play in WCQ he was incredible! He initiated almost all of the counters, he connected beautifully with Messi and he defended like a monster alongside Mascherano, but alas his constant injuries have caught up with him.
Infact the signs were all there as he was playing really awful with Boca but I foolishly believed that "form is temporary while class is permanent" and that simply wasn't true.
In any case Gago's time with the NT is at an end (same goes for Maxi, palacio, and Augusto).
Federico Fernandez should be dropped also, despite the fact that I really liked the guy and thought he was a solid defender but the world cup made it abundantly clear that he's just not at that level yet.
Mind you he's still young and has time to improve but with the likes of Musacchio, Fazio and Lisandro knocking on the door, I think FF may soon find himself surplus.
Kun, pipita are on "probation" so to speak and as far as I'm concerned they're not undisputed starters anymore. They now need to prove that they still have something to offer and must complete with the likes of Icardi, Lamela and Iturbe for starting positions.

Dimaria was also disappointing and he needs challenge from other players (e.g. Gaitan and Lavezzi who also prefers the left side of the midfield) to get the best out of him.
I think at Real his place is always in jeopardy hence why he was in "warrior mode" all the time.

@pablo Brazil may have reached greater heights than Argentina has over the years but now we can safely say that they've also sank to far greater depths than the albicelestes will ever likely to sink to. Hence despite the disappointment of the final result, Brazil's back to back humiliation is a respectable consolation prize IMO, LOL!!!


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/21/2014 at 3:44 PM
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arg2014: x 2 sir I also dislike the yellow team and their deluded fans, I have really enjoyed the 7-1 and enjoyed seeing some of their fans I know down this way, sure we lost the final but we are no 2 while they were humiliated twice ahahahahahahah


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/21/2014 at 1:10 PM
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Pablo: I can't stand the Brazilian fans, we have some of those here too. It seems that even 7-1 thrashing result won't bring them down to ground....they still brag about their past achievements and how Argentina is inferior to their football standards. Arrogance was the main reason that Brazil has been losing stem, and it will continue.

Mamoun: I hope that Tata won't take over the management, I've never liked his philosophy with either Paraguay or Barca. His promises are made of butter that melts by the first ray of sun next day. Simeone also something odd about his personality, besides I didn't like his rough play in order to win. Other than Pekerman, I don't see a good replacement for Sabella out of the Argentine coaches. Mamoun, since you like superman, then Van Persie should be your idol because he's described a superman after his first goal against Spain. Gago though is far from being a replica superman, well he's the glassman :)


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/21/2014 at 3:07 AM
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mamoun "elpipita": yep that is me :)
as I said next time we will catch up if back here or of im up your way in Auckland (im think you said you up their now).
their are very few argie's in n.z and I only know of 1 other living down my way, their are a lot of the yellow country down my way and I have had the pleasure of seeing them since the 7-1.

arg2014: awesome and a lot of good laughs-thank you for the entertainment.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/21/2014 at 1:45 AM
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Jason I agree with what you say but try not to get too shackled up by the past as most football fans tend to do. I know it ain't easy but regrets are like invisible shackles they just weigh us down.
For now I'm not thinking about the next generation or who will be in copa 15, all I'm thinking about is who will be Argentina's manager for the coming future because that will determine the path that the albicelestes will take from now on.
I just hope to dear god that Sabella will change his mind and decide to stay because I know that if given a whole 4 year cycle he can create the ultimate team.

@pablo, so that was you??!!! about 5,10 inch tall, dark hair? Man if that's the case then it's a really small world!!!!
Then again I shouldn't really be surprised since Argentines are themselves migrants from all over the globe and they come in all shapes and sizes (that's why you have players like negro and gringo who are almost at the opposite end of the spectrum).


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/21/2014 at 1:00 AM
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Pablo, elpipita and to all the great folks on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNbV8pIyfiM

enjoy


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/21/2014 at 12:14 AM
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elpipita: Sure you can call me anything you want just get me a third star for Argentina :). I promised myself to buy a new jersey after we win the WC just to get three stars on it, alas that didn't go as planned. I knew that final day was ominous as our players wore the away kit and Maradona was attending along with German Chancellor Angela Merkel (red owl) and the annoying singer Rihanna.

Sabella did a great job with the team despite the wrong subbing decision in the final game. We shut the germans down for the entire game, and most importantly teams like Switzerland, Belgium and Netherlands got frustrated against us although they came prepared with a plan to demolish us with confidence. Sabella came more prepared than his opponent in the knock out stage, it was only the strikers who failed to finish. Sabella should stay no doubt about it.

I don't say that Icardi, Iturbe or Gaitan would score goals left and right in the tournament if they were giving a chance, but at least anyone of them would give the germans some headache and complicate things for them more. For example, last game, we still can start with Higuain and Lavezzi.....since Di Maria was not available and we wasted some chances besides time was ticking.....get Icardi in the game, the least he could do would be:
1) Making their defenders busy which would reduce their attacking press.
2) At least 2 of their players would be out of their game by marking him and control his danger and losing possession as a result.
3) The Germans could get more nervous and mistakes would arise.....in these moments, Messi's brilliance come into play and we could win the game eventually.

Definitely, we could take 6 forwards with us especially when we didn't utilize all of our midfielders: Alvarez, Augusto, and Maxi. As a general rule for a team playing 4-3-3 in the world cup, 6 forwards is recommended because of the pressure of counterattack you expect some attackers are either get worn out or injured, not to mention subbing them in the 2nd half unless you have super attacking midfielders to make up for the shortage which we don't have.

elpipita, after all the world cup was successful for us, playing the final game is not what everyone thinks as an easy task for a team just found it's rhythm during the tournament. Messi with only 40% of his potential won best player of the tournament that was awarded by analysts who know what they are doing obviously plus they have balls surprisingly. We are winners with Sabella.....my only 2 concerns about that game are: The referee should have been from a neutral continent, and that Higuain/Neuer tackle in penalty area should have resulted in a red card.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 11:41 PM
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elpipita: i know afifa and she is a nice lady, she always supports Argentina as well.
yes im sure it was me in 2010 and my story is i was adopted to n.z at age 3 hence no accent at all (sadly for me) and living in Dunedin, as you know mans their is not any real heat in the sun and as the sun is as rare as rocking horse poo meaning my or any tan is long gone lol

the market has grown a lot since those early days and now have 74 food stalls as that is as many as they can fit in the area with another 30 on stand by if the space was available.

as they say its a small world.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 10:44 PM
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@pablo, yeah I went to mendical school in Dunedin and I've been to the saturday market many a times, infact I always came to say hello and buy some food from the Lebanese woman ("Afifa" is her name) in the corner, don't know if you recognize her.
Where did you work btw? I remember most of the stands there as there weren't that many.
I do remember back in 2010 when I was finishing my internship year a young gentleman working the cheese stand who wore the albiceleste shirt (this was right before the world cup started) and he noticed that I was wearing mine also and we exchanged approving glances and he said to me "good luck mate" and I smiled and said "with Diego coaching, we're gonna need ALOT of it, LOL!". Don't think it was you because he looked very kiwi and his accent was unmistakably kiwi.

@Jason (gonna call you Jason from now on if that's ok cos like Pablo you're now one of my brethren) I totally agree with you on taking Iturbe and Icardi. The thing is you and many others here kept shouting and screaming that we don't need two hard working players (lavezzi AND palacio) and one need one more clinical finisher (I remember you and many others were championing Icardi) incase Higuain faces problems but I was personally against taking Icardi because I felt that he'd be as toxic as Carlitos due to his off-field antics.
I also remember a few people here mentioning Iturbe but I felt he was just too young and inexperienced.

To tell you the truth I don't regret the decision of taking Lavezzi and Palacio because they both made considerable contributions to the team during the world cup but I was wrong in thinking that a team like Argentina, which often utilizes 3 strikers at a time could do with only 5 forwards.
If I remember correctly that was a point of contention for you because you felt that because of Argentina's game style the team needed 6 forwards.

Ultimately I got many things wrong including my insistence on Gago (I was hoping the WCQ Gago was the one who was going to show up not the out of form, out of ideas Gago that we got) and my continued dissing of Rojo who ended up shutting me and many of us up (thank god!).
But this is why I really want Sabella back because he can learn and grow from those mistakes just like the Germans seem to learn and grow from every friendly and every tournament that they lose.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 10:10 PM
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arg2014: strange as it may be elpipita came to my work (we have a big market every sat here in dunners) a few years ago as i believe hes was a student at the time in Dunedin but not that we knew of each other at the time.

we will catch up some day and i look forward to it as im always happy to if your self or any other mundo members in travelling in n.z inform me and we can catch up.
ive meet a couple lads off here and just missed the one and only seba as we worked out he was here after he had gone-next time.



arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 7:45 PM
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elpipita: likewise man.....It's great to see lots of Argentinian football fans come from around the world. You and Pablo.d should meet up and have football discussion since you both live in NZ. In Canada here, everyone cheers for Germany sadly.

BTW elpipita, I still think that Sabella should have taken these guys to Brazil as forwards instead of his selection: Messi, Higuain, Lavezzi, Icardi, and Iturbe. We could've won our last game.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 2:59 PM
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elpipita: not a problem sir and we will catch up some day.
we both have amazing countries with incredible history but sadly for both of our peoples the corruption of many people have made life very difficult for many living in our respective countries.

both of us are very lucky being able to live in n.z but as always we never forget home and our wonderful people.

digressing slightly so many "kiwis" over here really have don't know how good they have it here, to many of them expect every thing to be "given" to them, their are many places id like to send them for a month and when they came back they would realise just how good it is here.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 9:41 AM
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I agree with deb, we need to play more flowing football.... 2 DMs + 2 creative mids is perfect balance.... We lacked creativity in midfield whole tournament for sure, that will add additional pressure to our defence....
And shudnt use messi at mid, whenever he used at deep didnt get his best....
Palacio, augusto, campa, demi, andujar, orion out... Also i dnt back lavezzi, cant score n create, for only tracking back we dnt need him....
N maxi????? i dnt knw.....



mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 7:44 AM
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Pablo gracias for the warm invitation and that goes both ways as you well know.
Its easy to see why we both have a hard time letting go of our nations after all your country is the home of Evita, Che Guevara, culture, tango, beautiful women and the best football while mine is the cradle of civilization.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 2:54 AM
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elpipita: if you are ever back down the south for a visit inform me as it would be great to catch up with you.
as I have a young family I wont be up in the north island for a while but if I am for some reason ill inform you.

just like you we both live here but as always our birth country's are where the heart will always be.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/20/2014 at 2:38 AM
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@arg2014 al salamu alaykoom it's always nice to meet another person from Iraq.
I live in New Zealand now (just like pablo D) but I will always be an Iraqi, I guess it's like the old saying "you can take the person out of the country but you can't take the country out of the person" that's why I list Iraq as my country rather that NZ.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 11:33 PM
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elpipita: of course my parents are Iraqi, I still have one brother lives in Baghdad, I was born in 1976. where do you live now? I assume overseas....


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 11:05 PM
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@arg2014 wow!! So are your parents Iraqi or did they just happen to live in Iraq when you were born?


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 10:05 PM
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@elpipita: see I grew up in Baghdad although I was born in Basrah/southern part. I left Iraq to Turkey first in 1991 and after approximately 3 years I have migrated to Canada.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 8:25 PM
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@arg2014 I'm from the capital Baghdad but to tell the truth I haven't been back in Iraq for nearly 20yrs sadly!


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 4:27 PM
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elpipita: which part of Iraq are you from?


Suresh
(India)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:08 PM
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Thanks Arglover...


albiceleste
(United States)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:56 PM
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what a massive talented GK, like I what see very much wowwwww


msi2
(France)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 11:31 AM
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Well Franco didnt held any of promises when he appeared 5-6 years ago.
Well we will see what will happen with Bruno.


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 10:21 AM
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Has anybody here watched Bruno or Franco Zuculini??

How good are they?

Bruno has been playing preseason for City and Franco plays for Bologna. That's all I know.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 7:54 AM
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@Suresh, Parades ia on loan at Chievo Verona not Roma, he hadn't any match last year, hope he shines this year.


Suresh
(India)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 7:45 AM
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Guys how about leandro paredes who joined roma on loan,is there any chance of him making to NT?.This guy seems to good attacking midfielder to me.



Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 6:58 AM
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Official:Roberto Pereyra joins Juventus.


yo
(Malaysia)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 6:43 AM
2
I love to see the mixture of diego offensive type,sabella defensive type and pekerman possession style in the our Nt .


GAB
(Australia)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 4:39 AM
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@ Guled, I totally agree with you about Ocampos. I'm certainly taking an interest in his development because his potential is massive and exciting.

I hope to see him in the Albiceleste sooner rather than later. I really hope he doesn't end up as hype only.

You Also made a good point about Aguero's bulk and how it's a hinderance because It is just a recipe for prolonged injuries in this demanding era of a professional footballer.


GAB
(Australia)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 4:33 AM
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@Dfox, first & foremost, I'm Argentino so I'm not talking up the Germans because I like Germany...quite the contrary actually. But I do respect their football achievements and the point I was trying to make is that they gave Loew a lengthy stint at national coach which helped greatly to this WC win, something AFA should do with Sabella rather than constantly change coaches as it does not help the evolution and success of our beloved team.

So before you start ranting on about shit and having a go at someone about making reference to the enemy, if you actually get out of your own way and understand some points that are being made here, then you might actually appreciate what someone is trying to say. I get the fact you are probably still grieving the loss as many are here, so there are certain things you simply do not want to hear. I for one have actually moved on from the heartbreak, anger and annoyance of the loss so I actually empathise and respect where you're at.



Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 3:16 AM
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@msi2. Who told he should get chance..? It will take time for those...thats what i mentioned..! May be some of those will never end up in NT..!


msi2
(France)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 3:04 AM
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Aslam> Funes Mori?????????????

mwhahahaha. I think i would rather Higuain as a starter rather than bringing this train wreck next to the NT.

OTOH, Rodrigo de Paul is one to follow. He looks like an improved Kily Gonzalez and definitively one to follow. Let's hope he succeeds in Valencia.


Khan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 3:01 AM
2
I'm a fan of Sabella. He is a great coach tacticaly. He has wonderful record against big teams. Defensively very dependable. Can motivate players wonderfully. Very Very thanks to him bringing us at least final after 24 years. But just two points I would like to mention, as I believe those are need to work on:
--->
1) Argentina has been turned into a counter attacking machine under Sabella. We've seen many unstoppable counter attacking moves throughout the qualifiers. But how many goals we scored from buildup offensive moves? Not very much. Probably this is why we have suffered against bus parking teams like Iran.
--->
2) Sabella was never good at substitutions. We almost conceded goal against Netherlands after substituting Perez off. In final his substitutions were poor also. Even Jose Mourinho criticized his decision of substituting Lavezzi in final.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 2:18 AM
1
ocampos is di maria in the making with pace and skill plus height(6.2), I like iturbe as of now he is better then aguero, I doubt aguero will ever find fitness because of the big muscles in his small body,i would like to see a front three of iturbe-icardi-ocampos with messi behind them, of course they need experience and by the time we reach 2018 hopefuly they will have it


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 2:04 AM
1
I don't think any changes will be there in this team for the next match against Germany...!!

It does not mean i don't want to see any changes in the team. If Sabella stays he will only add new players slowly in to this team...don't expect a sudden changes.

Peruzzi, Lisandro, Lamela, Salvio and Icardi were there..so may be they will be back in team soon.

Iturbe and Ocampos have great chance to be included in near future.

Young players like Rodrigo De Paul,Lucas Romero, Zuculini, Lanzini, Accosta, Fune Mori, Cirigliano, Villalba, kranevitter, Cartabia, Correa etc may still take time to earn the call...!

Musacchio, Fazio, Gaitan, Roberto Pereyra and Pastore are my choices in to this team...!!





msi2
(France)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:48 AM
0
Guys, it's impossible to have our best players staying in the local league for long nowdays. The clubs are always under huge pressure to sell.


Shinobushinobu
(Singapore)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:42 AM
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It is my first post after the final. I was too broken hearted and also needed to catch up with works.

Overall I feel very sad, even though we reached final for the first time after so many years, because it was very close to us. But, I also feel happy because this time my WC experience went further than quarter final..

I feel sad for the players as well, they've given their all and some of them might not even participate in the next WC. They've lost their chance to grab the cup. Seeing them in WC, I could feel how much they wanted to win it. In that sense, I'm luckier, coz as a fan I still have maybe 10 more WC (if God's willing) and hopefully can see Argentina lift the cup in my lifetime.

I'm glad Messi got the golden ball. I can't imagine any other player deserves it more than him. A lot of ppl (including some of Argentina fans) blame him while actually his contributions were vital for us to reach the final. If it is Ronaldo or Rooney or well James Rodriguez, ppl would say he's the best in the world.

I wouldn't blame Messi or any other players. I know even Higuain, Aguero and Palacio wanted to do their best. Their forms were questionable but not their hearts.

In 2010, Barca was the king of the world with RM arguably in the top three and Spain won. In 2014, B Munich is currently the top with B Dortmund not far behind and Germany won. Argentina lack time of playing together, those for continuity we should retain Sabella and at least half of the current team. Slowly put in more young blood and our first task now is to win Copa America. We need winning mentality!


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:34 AM
0
If we continue with the solid defense we showed in the last games and fix our attack and midfield by injecting some new blood, Russia 2018 is there for us to take


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:32 AM
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@SulaV: That's the point, you need a young sub who's not a star....he becomes unpredictable for the opponent and he won't get marked, in another word underestimated, and this kind of players are usually hungry to prove themselves on the big stage. You think if Scurlle's ball was reached by Muller, our defenders wouldn't stop it in time since Muller is marked? but Gotze as a sub player who was average and was even taken off by Germany when he was criticized for playing bad in the game against Ghana......then he redeemed himself, well him and Schurlle were considered less dangerous players by our defenders. That's the point of giving a chance to new young players in the world cup.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:29 AM
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arg2014: you are correct we had a great draw, its was like home games and no pressure but we did have rotten luck on the injury front with messi being out for a few months before the w/c, gago who we should have replaced but sabella gambled but refused to try other options, kun who had nothing but injury grief all season and hig having injury probs and finally di maria during the w/c but to be honest he had done diddly squat but a single goal.

as I said before lady luck got us to the final but the bitch deserted us where we needed her the most.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:28 AM
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Icardi has the killer instinct of the great strikers like batistuta and brazilian ronaldo, higuin doesn't have that,the issue with icardi is he is terribly immature, I hope he grows up for the sake of argentina and his career, and stop the wanda bullshit


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:15 AM
0
@pablo.d: yes I'm aware of the early concerns you have expressed.....the name Gaitan was also mentioned by most of us on here to add strength to our attacking midfielders. I mean, if Di Maria wasn't injured, we wouldn't be sour about it now, but nobody was able to take Di Maria role.

I don't like to be a downer, but WC 2014 was the perfect timing for us to claim the title: Home continent, weather advantage, easy draw and path to the final, most big teams flopped early, Brazil the host was booted out, and our guys are in their prime especially Messi, having a great coach, no pressure on us as a hot favorite, and mostly we did it and got to the final game which can't happen for every strong team that easy. It's killing me and I'm aging from that defeat.


Diego86
(Australia)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 1:09 AM
0
We lost 3-1 and 4-2 (friendly) under Bielsa in Brazil, unfortunately :( We won 2-1 and 2-0 (friendly) in Argentina. We lost against them in the Copa final, and quarter final 2000 with Riquelme in the team :(


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:59 AM
0
under biel it was the demo job we did on the yellow team in their land and I thick it was 3-1 but could have been double that, peckerman the 6-1 and sabella the 4-3 over the yellow team :)


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:57 AM
0
arg2014: as you know I was another just like you who said an icardi should be in, we had the wrong mix of both pal and lav and like you we got ridiculed for saying it.

its the same for a creating midfielder, we had time to get a gago back up but failed to do so, we asked for more players to be given a chance during the friendlies but it did not happen.
I do hope sabella learns to cast the net wide but not only that actually give some of them actual game time and not a cameo here and their or worse no time at all.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:56 AM
0
Icardi is still raw he hasn't proved anything to be included in the world cup... the only player i missed in the final was tevez even though i never wanted him to be selected!!... only if he had a better attitude.. the form and fitness he was in he would have buried those chances missed by higuain and palacio.. You simply cant fucking miss those sitters in the final of a world cup...!!!!!!!


Diego86
(Australia)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:55 AM
0
In your opinion, what is the best game under Sabella, under Bielsa, under Pekerman?


Diego86
(Australia)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:53 AM
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Best game under Sabella was versus Sweden! What a performance! Half of the team were out of form in the WC, but we still reached the final. Something to be positive about.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:50 AM
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@elpipita: Regardless of what we both believe, it's too late now....the problem with Argentina they don't invest in young talented players before their stardom, we give them a call when they are older, already stars, less hungry and after losing the spark of young unknown player that is needed for the world cup.

Anyway, I agree with you that Sabella should stay since we reached the final under his tenure, also continuity is the key for success. Just remember, world cup doesn't require all stars playing for big clubs....you need mix, and usually subs are the ones that change results and win decisive games, this is the case in most tournaments.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:42 AM
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@Conquer 2018 Russia: Absolutely man....I went even further (before WC has started) by mentioning that excluding a young striker like Icardi would cost us the world cup. I was attacked on here for being troll and stuff. Unfortunately Lamela wasn't available too because that would boost our attack.


Conquer 2018 russia
(United States)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:14 AM
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2014 wc was a perfect lesson to argentina..............(1) never call injured player specially forwards eg, aguero,higuain n also di maria (2) never trust 3rd tier old forward palacio .........i saw messi all alone upfront........


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:06 AM
0
messsi is the best around, because of the high standard messi sets if he does not beat 5 people and score a hat trick people say he has failed.

messi played very well in this w/c and because of him we got to a final and he deserved the golden ball, just look at his stats and they were fantastic for dribbling, chances created, he was even tackling and 4 fine goals.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/19/2014 at 12:00 AM
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@khan, messi is still the best ever, one game doesnt change that, don't believe in maradona/pele myth, no one can win v myth


Zoroaster
(Germany)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:57 PM
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messi played an awesome world cup the problem is you expect much more from messi since we know what he can do and what he did in the past thats why we feel disappointed.get over it messi is getting older like everyone else and this is how it works


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:56 PM
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@haititiarge,messi is the reason we were in the final,if you don't like our main player keep your insults to your self or go to madrid forums and get obsessed about messi


Zoroaster
(Germany)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:54 PM
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because without messi we couldnt make it to out of the group stages beside that lets say your right now what ? do you want messi out of the NT ? lmao


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:52 PM
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HaititoArg: the misses were not good but reality is our strikers were feeding off scraps all tournament,
if you look at final we really only created 3 chances and hummles created 1 for us.

their was not a good connect between the mid and the strikers, gago was supposed to be that but his crap form meant that option was not their and because of it out front men suffered, as sabella had chosen not to try other options before the w/c sadly for us he put all the creative eggs in the gago basket.


Khan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:50 PM
1
@HaititoArg: Bitch.. no body is blaming Gago not for win world cup. There is no rule everybody need to press hard. It's messi style of play as he start his movement and looking for space and opportunity. Football is no more a game of one individual. If Argentina could win the WC, he would treated as the best player in the history. If Higuain could score the 1 to 1, Messi would Football God! It's just God who didn't want Argentina win 2014 world cup. If you want to hate Messi, go to hell and suck your dick.


HaititoArg
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:13 PM
1
Why Everybody keep talking about gago and not Messi gago its not at fault for not winning the world cup when our forwards was missing all those goals and the queen Messi was walking around the field like a whole lady you guys seems to put Messi ahead of the team to me no one is above the team.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 10:35 PM
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@arg2014 I was not defending Gago at all I was merely citing an example of how messi was provided with opportunities by the midfield and he blew them meaning we need to stop blaming our midfield's lack of creativity and come to terms with the fact that Messi is mortal and his form has dropped significantly in the last year.
As for Gago well several topics ago I wrote a message to all of mundo saying that "I WAS WRONG AND YOU ALL WERE RIGHT ABOUT GAGO" as it was clear that sadly his injuries have now gotten the better of him and he's simply not NT material.
Still I will never forget his wonderful contributions to the NT especially during the WCQ and wish him the best of luck for the future but I don't want him near the NT anymore because there are plenty of creative midfield players in Argentina who can pass and defend and Enzo Perez is a prime example of that!

@arg2014 thanks for the article but I've already read it by that time that you posted it and it doesn't change the fact that Sabella should not be blamed for taking an injured kun and pipita especially since their injuries did not seem that serious (and they weren't since both recovered even if their form didn't).
Not taking world class players like these 2 just because they're not a 100% may seem like a smart thing to do on hindsight but when presented with the decision I think a manager would be crazy to leave such players at home and if Sabella did leave them at home then I am certain that most of us here would've crucified him for it citing that "we would've won the WC with ease if hadn't left 2 of the fab 4 at home"

Taking a partially fit player to the WC is a risk but as we saw with Suarez, vidal and Khadira it's a risk worth taking and sometimes it pays off and sometimes it doesn't.

Lastly regarding Sabella, I really hope he stays and if he does he should stay until 2018 regardless of Copa america results because I for one don't want to see a repeat of the batista debacle.
The germans have been building for WC since 2004 and only 10 years later did their project bear fruits but damn was it worth it!!
Argentina should do the same and start now and whether be it Sabella or someone else the most important thing is to start early and have patience.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 10:17 PM
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I keep reading on sebellas loyalty to players but I think we have to look at one of the greatest managers of all time sir alex fergson and he had loyalty to no one player and players always busted a gut for him no matter what or they were gone, no one was ever bigger then the club and sabella need the same mentality for the n/t, he needs to reward those in form and needs to remember he will never please everyone and nor should he have to as results at the end of the day is all it is about.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 10:07 PM
0
if not hig were to turn for a striker?, kun is near a goal every 3 games but in the last year hes not been convincing at n/t level(to many weights and not enough speed work).
then we are left with icardi who does need a chance but after that it gets thin.

we need a creative mid and as I said before the w/c "forget about gago if he comes good fine but for now find a replacement" and we did not do that and paid the price.

their is a lot of work to do for who ever is the man in chance,yes the defensive basis is their for now and their is plenty of time and I hope no stone is left unturned and as I have said before reward those in form and not those on reputation, the blue and white jersey needs to be earned and is not any players right to have one.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 9:45 PM
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@sulav, agree with you on needing creative midfielder, and no gago and shit, but I will add higuain also, his misses hurt us in copa and now in the World Cup, he is never a lethal striker, we have to find a lethal striker, icardi is great but his off pitch issues aren't helping, he is the best hope currently,also I would like to see iturbe in place of aguero, his fitness issues will continue because of the big muscles in small body , I hope sabella stays,with him we can win the copa and prepare for the 2018 world cup


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 9:34 PM
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If sabella decides to stay his contract must run til 2018 world cup... i have no doubt that we will win the both copas..Hopefully he is over with Palacio Gago and ricky,,, tbh ricky is just an average midfielder and if we let him sit on the bench then we are again repeating the same mistake.. unless ricky shows some excellent form in inter then may be other wise a big NO. Too many defensive midfielders didnt help our cause... we need to replace ricky gago and augusto... with some dynamic attacking mids... masch perez and biglia are more than enough to cover our defensive midfield... and plzz no Banega he is another version of palacio in midfield..


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 8:27 PM
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The draw will take place on October 27


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 7:51 PM
0
How does the copa America draw happen, are there seeded teams like World Cup draw, any one with info tell us please


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 6:59 PM
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I wonder what so special about the German team that we didn't see before??

They beat the U.S 1/ZERO
Should have LOST to Ghana
they beat the heartless Portuguese, which only got easier after losing that idiot Pepe, and the other RM moron and their forward, whatever his name was..

ALGERIA, let me say again, Algeria and I have NOTHING but respect for them and what they have done, but they ONLY lost to them in extra time.

Beat Brazil 7/1........don't make me laugh, PATHETIC BRAZIL, it was like shooting fish in a barrel, except with dynamite!!

ARGENTINA RUNNING ON 6-CYLINDERS instead of 12 ALL OF THE WORLD CUP and yet lost by ONE lousy goal to the MIGHTY GERMANS WHO IF I RECALL correctly were supposed to annihilate ARGENTINA........

Don't drink the Kool-Aid, and if you feel the urge to do so, do it somewhere else because just like none of us wanted to hear about how mighty Brazil was before the world cup, we certainly don't want to hear the same crap about the Germans NOW.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 6:57 PM
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arg2014 ,well said.... gago sucks....
when he did not play we kept a blank sheet...

augusto should have come in, instead of gago for the final


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 6:42 PM
0
....here you go AGAIN Thinker!!


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 6:23 PM
0
It is absolutely imperative that Sabella stays with the team till the 2018 WC... He has brought the winning mentality which Argentina lacked for 24 years... there is no shame in Losing to this German team-- they built their team for over a decade and are now reaping the rewards.. In my childhood days,, i used to hate Germany like hell(I never hated Brazil) because of their ugly and boring football... But now i do have enormous respect for these Krauts because they have changed their football style dramatically..

It is now becoming an alarming trend.. 3 consecutive WCs won by Europe and Germany are the first to stamp European domination in Americas.. Because European teams doesn't have disgusting football federations like AFA who only cares how to fill their dirty pockets rather than undertaking a long term project which would benefit the team... if that Bastard Grondona is removed right now then i can bet with my life that Argentina will win 2018... Grondona is the greatest Hyena in the AFA who is continuing to destroy Argentina football to pieces... I don't know if Sabella will remain the coach till 2018 and even if he does remain,, he won't be able to fully enjoy all the freedom because the DON will always have his one hand on sabella's neck...

I wish the best of luck for Argentina and Latin America because logically thinking,, Germany will have an even greater chance to win 2018 and France,Spain,Belgium will have talented youths at the peak of their powers... it will be very tough for Latin teams in the Ice of Russia.. But i also think that if sabella stays and if he brings on some bright youngsters coupled with the Old Guards then we will have a realistic chance to win... He can start off with winning some Copa Americas...


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 4:57 PM
0
Philip Lahm graciously left the scene, given his stature on world stage... He wouldn like to get toppeled back to the ground like Iker Casillas & Fabio Cannavaro after winning the world.
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Messi...... I dont want say anything about him here and create a controversy but..... He needs to throw his stuff out and play the way he used to. He is not the Messi the world knows.... He is bringing himself back to the earth.... whatz wrong with u?
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Mascherano, u r Argentina for me.
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Argentina need to catch up and get itself organized If we are bring back The World Cup.


GAB
(Australia)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 4:56 PM
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Fact is, Sabella's 3 year tenure has been successful. We finished top of a very tough and competitive WC qualifying campaign; and we finished 2nd at the WC with nearly having won the thing. Now you can hypothesise all you want (oh but we had an easy path to the final, Messi this Kun that, Hig this Dimaria that)...Facts are facts. Sabella turned our shitty defence into one of the worlds best. If only our forwards were fit, it would've turned out differently.

You want to know why Germany are so successful, and I mean in every aspect of life not just football (look at their engineering brilliance in products and their economy) it's because they are so good at applying common sense, and they are not rife in corruption like Argentina's government and AFA are.

The best thing Sabella and AFA can do is let Sabella have another shot at a WC campaign under his terms. Germany had faith in Loew and look at how he repaid that faith. It's just common sense to do this after such a successful campaign. If this does not happen, then we get into a vicious and ineffective cycle like has happened in the last 24 years.

The sad and unfortunate thing is that AFA has a toxic, cancerous germ called Grondona who calls all the shots, and does not allow a coach full freedom to do what they want, and is why all of our good/great coaches have short stints at coaching Argentina. They cannot tolerate this fool for too long and is the main reason they end up leaving AFA and coaching other countries FA rather than our own. Unfortunately, politics plays too big a role in AFA and until that is eradicated, it will be a long time until Argentina win another WC.

I hope I'm wrong about that but mis-management is the number one reason for sustained failure, which is why change needs to occur at AFA level more so than at a coaching/player level.



ddr1123
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 4:16 PM
0
All
I guess it has now boiled down to Sabella or someone else?

Few thoughts...

1. If someone would have told you before the world cup that Argentina will be runners up and lose it very close, would have have taken it? I would have.

2. Lowe has been with Germany for quite some time now. Why cant we give that chance to Sabella. He did something no one did since Bilardo.

3. Looks like he has a plan, he changes as needed. After all he did not take Sosa, did take Perez etc. He is not so stubborn.

4. Remember, he could have won it all together. Its not his fault that Higuain, Palacio or Messi cannot finish. He cannot go there and score.

I strongly feel, if we keep him. We will get stronger. We have lost or forgotten how to win it all. We need to win the copa. I am not is support of too much chopping and changing now. If we have Sabella, I think he will make us stronger in copa. After that people have to put the ball in the net.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 3:06 PM
1
every morning I wake up and its still like a night mere, I hope it just bad dream and the game is soon...sigh....


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 3:05 PM
0
im another who is not convinced on sabella being the one to take us to another level but I will say we either replace him or back him for 4 years.
to chance coaches on 2 years time if we had to is another disaster waiting to happen.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 2:29 PM
0
Juventus is after Rojo. That's the last rumor I've heard in the past few days...Rojo just need to concentrate on his football and not worrying about which big club he goes next..Sporting Lisbon is in the UCL so Rojo will play UCL football if he were to stay at Sporting for another season..


gabo
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 2:24 PM
0
@el principe: you say "If you ask me, yes I would want Sabella to continue for at least 2+ years meaning that if he fails to give us one of the Copa Americas in the next 2 years, then I am OK with sacking him."

you are being a bit too generous with Sabella, don't you think? who even knows if copa 2016 will be a real thing? maybe no team will show up! in the past, when copa used to run twice every four years, the big players would not show up for the second one. Does the winner even get a pass to confederation cup? does it count as a continent type competition in Fifa? sorry, but I can't be too excited about the first edition of some random competition that counts for nothing.

now you are willing to give Sabella two more shots (on top of his most recent failure), and then if he failed on both occasions, you're "ok" with sacking him, which pretty much says you're also happy if he stays!

again, if Argentina had the same draw as 2006 or 2010, Sabella would not get us past quarter-finals, and then you would not be favoring him to stay, would you? we did not play a beautiful soccer, and we did not win anything! twenty something gold medals and a golden cup all went to Germany!

let's face it, whoever takes charge in Copa America 2015 and comes back empty handed should have the decency to step down himself! I guess if they sack him, they would have to pay him compensation money, which he will not deserve!


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 2:22 PM
2
Argentina was the highest scoring nation leading up to the world cup for the past 3 years and that include qualifiers..Argentina attackers have been the highest goal scorer spread across Europe in the last 3 years leading up to the world cup..So NO, Sabella did not turn Argentina into a defensive Greek team..Our strikers were the main let down of this world cup, Sabella did his part, he said he would fix the defense, which he did, unfortunately our strikers did not do their part..If you even go back to the game against Trinidad and Tobago, we were missing easy chances like crazy..Palacio goal against T&T was a fluke goal that came from the goalkeeper making a blunder..Palacio and Lavezzi had countless chances to score against T&T yet they failed to do so..

Going back to our last several games;

-Against Romania: Aguero and Higuain waste countless chances to score..Lavezzi on the other hand missed an easy volley to sealed us a win..

-Against T&T: Mascherano and Maxi were the highlight goal scorer of that game..Palacio goal was a fluke as I stated in my first paragraph.

-Against Slovenia: Ricky Alvarez and Messi were the goal scorers.

-Against Bosnia: Messi brilliance and a Bosnia own goal ( which happen due to Rojo aggressiveness in the 18 box)

-Against Iran: All Messi..This game for me was Higuain worse game for Argentina wearing the blue and white.

-Against Nigeria: Messi and Rojo were the goal scorers.

-Against Switzerland: Di Maria was the goal scorer due to Messi brilliance.

-Against Belgium: This was Higuain best game of the world cup and he was still horrible when it comes to finishing..Missing an easy one and one with the goalkeeper after his brilliant dribbling pass Kompany

-Against Holland: Palacio was easily the Flop of the game for Argentina.

-Against Germany: Palacio, Higuain, and Aguero were all flops of the game for Argentina...

So as you can see, Sabella was not to fault for Argentina poor finishing..If we couldn't score wide open goals against T&T then how in the world was Argentina going to score against Germany and Holland in open play at the world cup?


Faisal
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 2:03 PM
0
Sabella did his first two assignment with ease.

1. Qualified well for world 2014

and

2. Taking Argentina into the final


Now, if Sabella stays till 2018 then he must diversified his tactics.

1. Reducing dependency on Messi to do something extraordinary.

2. Build a solid midfield

and

3. Have some attacking game plan


theAbNormalOne
(India)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 1:57 PM
0
Felipe Luis now a Chelsea player(Official).Can we see the upgraded version of Insua?Or should we pray for Rojo to Atletico under Simeone?
Rojo got everything to succeed though,with his passion,grit,never die attitude and ofcorse his ability.Any rumor???


xtreme
(United States)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 1:41 PM
0
Sabella must continue, at least until 2018 world cup, he's the best options we have. We were just really unfortunate going into this world cup with tons of issues with our strikers fitness. Our players need to dedicate themselves more and prepare for world cup a year ahead, and stop busting ass off for their clubs in the world cup year, always prioritize world cup over club football...DI maria and aguero can go ahead and enjoy their respective titles with their clubs now....


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 1:06 PM
0
Why don't we just forget about Tevez? if he's only 22 years old, it would be tempting to utilize his talent, but he's hitting his 30's and with all that ego, no.....We probably wouldn't reach the final with him. It would be a good idea to use him this world cup instead of the useless Palacio and Higuain, but now it's too late....Young talents should be given a ride since Messi, Aguero and Higuain all be 30 next world cup.


vish
(India)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 12:50 PM
0
Germans are bastards


msi2
(France)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 12:45 PM
0
Another interesting article on why Messi was burned out after 50 or 60 minutes in the game, it's in spanish:

http://www.clarin.com/deportes/periodista-conoce-Messi-revela-Mundial_0_1177082614.html



theAbNormalOne
(India)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 12:25 PM
0
A simulation in my FIFA 14:
Barca vs Madrid.
On the 3rd minute Pepe is admitted to hospital for Rabbi's treatment.Suarez red and Pepe replaced by Kroos.Messi walks,Neymar &Iniesta for a Oscar performance.Then comes Mascherano who stops all attack with 134 clean tackles and 452 interceptions and one through ball for Neymar,who fall in the box without any touch and is ruled out for atleast 4 years due to injury to medulla oblangeta.Messi converts the spot kick Di Maria gives 96 through balls to the box which are all wasted by Benzema and CR0. .Messi man of the match.
Final score Barca 1 - Real 0.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 12:24 PM
0
Palcio ->out(complete crap--missed countless chances for . . argetina under sabella)
Gago ->out(he is done and is a huge liability)
Demichelis ->out(gotze)
Higuain-> benched(he can only be a sub)
aguero-> only should be played if FULLY fit if not then . out of the team(cannot trust his glass body)


msi2
(France)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 12:18 PM
0
http://www.clarin.com/deportes/futbol/idea-mantener-Sabella-vuelva-Tevez_0_1175882517.html


LOL.

So that article is saying Grondona wants Sabella to stay... so far so good.
But Grondona thinks Sabella will resign and that makes embarrassed because originally he wanted Simeone (like many here) but as said countless times by el Cholo, he wants to stay at club and feels not ready for the NT.
Grondona is apparently very cold on Martino. Literally, the article says Martino = Bielsa and it's a no-go for Grondona.
Then came the hilarious (or sad depending how you see that). If Sabella resign, there are some games coming the next weeks and we need some kind of a coach to lead the team.... the name of Humbertito is suddenly appearing as an interim coach for the next 3, 4 games....

Another issue is the Tevez case. Grondona wants him back (in fact he always wanted him in the team). That implies that what Batista said a couple of months ago, he was forced to integrate Tevez against his will. It is said also in that article Sabella didnt want Tevez (too many hurdles with him) but more than that, the article implies that Messi and Mascherano were the main players who didnt want him in the squad (probably Copa America 3y ago played a very substantial role).
One thing is sure, Higuain starting spot is looking increasing under threat and the article points out that all strikers only scored one goal between Palacio, Higuain, Aguero. Palacio is going probably to be ditched, he's 32y old and useless in the NT.
The article points out very quickly Icardi's as a possible alternative instead of Tevez but not much more is said.



arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 12:06 PM
1
Let's give a credit for Sabella:

1) With him we reached the semi final in 24 years, and then we moved to the final.
2) His tactics made a damage to big teams came to win the world cup like Switzerland, Belgium, and Netherlands. All of these teams had a project to upset and win the world cup, but Sabella's tactics were spot on. Let's face it, our strikers sucked.....Sabella's brain defeated big European teams. He made a great plan for Germany who looked clueless during 90 min, he strangled them and almost could make their on going Berlin party a world wide joke.
3) He was by the sideline all games and for the entire playing time giving instructions, reminders, switching tactics, and encouragement. I haven't seen other coaches did what Sabella did for his team.
4) The team played first 2 games with no fighting spirit, but he boosted their teamwork and make them fight for the win, Argentina played the final game with a gutsy gritty spirit based on all analysts. Based on one journalist: "Argentina executed their game plan against Germany from paper to the field with a perfection while Germany failed to match them in that aspect- Argentina could win the game".
5) Messi won FIFA best player of the tournament under his tenure.
6) He made the team to play as a solid unit and difficult to break down.
7) He made our defence the best in the tournament after notoriously being popular for conceding goals and in the early minutes of the game or from set pieces.
8) Mediocre players going to the tournament became world class players in their positions: Rojo/ best left back in the tournament and made the world cup starting 11 team. Romero became an excellent goalkeeper, Biglia, Perez, Garay, Lavezzi and the beast Mascherano are all exceeded expectations.

I think Sabella did what the most genius coach could do, but it's not his job to go on pitch and finish sitters for Palacio, Higuain or Messi. Our Forwards were the reason we lost the game against Germany despite the fact that we were in control on the game by the hard work of our midfielders and defenders with the exception of Gago.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:43 AM
1
@elpipita: How long will you be supporting Gago? You mentioned that he was a good supplier for Messi. You know, like the majority on here mentioned that we usually concede goals whenever Gago is playing. Gago should be erased from the NT, it's the end for:

1) Gago: Most overrated midfielder in recent history.
2) Higuain: Was in 2010 and 2014 against Germany, and did nothing except wasting chances, if you can't beat Germany with clear chances as of today, then you are out. Simple.
3) Palacio: If you can't score and finish sitters, you don't have to be the man upfront, but since you do it over and over and with this age, you are out.

On the warned list:
Aguero: Another chance for him to prove that he's more than just selfies representative and crowd pleaser in the team....but if I see you score 22 goals for City and zero goals for our next 2 games, it would be a crime not to end your career with Argentina.


Faisal
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:04 AM
0
I want to see Germany out from the group stage in 2022, 2026 and 2030 world cup.

Yeah, solid poor run in world competition.


I also want to see Argentina playing 4 world cup semifinal in next four world cup plus winning at least couple of them.


El papita
(India)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:01 AM
0
@faisal : it was just a mediocre victory...we had the better chances but no luck!!!! We defended well like lions but in the end all the missed chances cost us dear!!! Germany is just an average team who just got lucky on that day!!!


Faisal
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 10:59 AM
0
I want to see Argentina beat Germany in 2018 world cup final,

Ohho... sorry I don't want to see them playing one more final in recent times, rather I want to see we beat Germany either QF/SF by 8-0.


Faisal
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 10:57 AM
0
I hate German 10 times more than Brazil.

I envy their overall success and their envious world cup record against us.


Faisal
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 10:55 AM
0
We should not play many friendlies against Germany.

They are 100 time clever than us. They let us win in friendlies but don't let any chance to win in world cup and that's their tactics.