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An Argentina To Be Proud Of

I was wishing the day would come that I would be writing a celebratory post for Argentina winning the World Cup... unfortunately, they didnt win it. But is there anything to celebrate? Definitely!

To start with, we finally made it past the quarters and into the final... a feet that eluded Argentina for 24 years since 1990! That was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... SIX tournaments ago! How old were you back then?

Think of all the Argentine greats that graced us since then: Batistuta, C.Lopez, Riquelme, Veron, Crespo, Ayala, Sorin, Zanetti, Simeone... and and and... The coaches that led us: Basile, Passarella, Bielsa, Pekerman, Maradona. In terms of results, none of them came close to what this generation of 2014 achieved. They might not have played the best football, but in the modern game you just have to sacrifice a bit of style for efficiency and tactical awareness... otherwise Argentina of '02 (probably the most impressive of them all) would have lived a completely different story.

Sabella, Messi and co made it to the final of World Cup 2014, and it being on Brazilian soil, made it all the sweeter. Going into the tournament, lots of question marks loomed over so many aspects of this Argentina team, with the general feeling that the defence and goalkeeper would be our weakness and the attack would make up for all the conceded goals. However this World Cup turned out to be one of opposites for Argentina and could be summarized as two halves: Before the Belgium game and after.

First half:

Unfortunately, half of the dubbed "Fantastic 4" up front were struck by injuries before the tournament even began. During May and early June, Sergio Aguero and Gonzalo Higuain were in a race against time to be fully fit for the opening clash against Bosnia. Although they made it, it proved detrimental to their form throughout the tournament as they were both completely anonymous in the group stage, with only Higuain's flick in Messi's goal vs Bosnia worthy of note.

Di Maria was poor in the group stage, giving away way too many balls and constantly failing to beat the first man whether he was passing or shooting. However despite all that, he was immense for Argentina, bringing much needed life up front with his pace, stamina, and explosive, unpredictable bursts; exactly what Messi needed alongside him as by then, Leo was single handedly dragging Argentina to the knock outs. Di Maria's goal vs Switzerland was a long time coming, and was the perfect platform for him to finally find his feet in this tournament and stand by Messi as partner in crime.

After beating Switzerland in extra time, the team was left begging for form. However, it must be mentioned that all of Bosnia, Iran and Switzerland played very defensively, closing all space in the middle for the Fantastic 4 to function as well as we were so used to seeing in the qualifiers. These were different animals to what they were used to facing in South America. So with Gonzalo and Sergio not producing, Messi was obliged to step up and pull off his magic with well taken goals (3 out of 4 of them scored from outside the box), and an assist for Di Maria's winner in the round of 16.

Despite recording 4 straight victories (albeit by 1 goal margins), Argentina's attack seemed out of sorts. The midfield was one of the busiest of the tournament. Mascherano and Gago orchestrated play in the middle, but in general they desperately lacked creativity. The deal was for Gago to be the hand that feeds Messi as was the case in the qualifiers, however that wasnt going to plan anymore. Gago, who was also injured for a while before the tournament began, struggled to find form.

In terms of defence, Argentina were looking quite solid, but experienced several scary moments as the defensive teams attempted to surprise us on the counter. Garay was sharp as he was all throughout the tournament, but Fernandez was proving to be the weaker link in our back line. As for the fullbacks, Rojo, the man almost everyone (except me) thought would be a problem turned out to be immense for this Argnetina team: rock solid at the back and dangerous going forward putting in crosses and contributing everywhere (also scoring the winner vs Nigeria). Zabaleta was also doing a decent job on the other side.

Between the posts, Romero, another concern for everyone (including me) was doing an excellent job. The Bosnia goal may have been avoidable but he more than made up for it saving Argentina from conceding embarassing goals on several occasions.

Second half:

By this stage, the problems for Argentina were evident and it was time for Sabella to earn his money... and that's exactly what he did. To a great extent, it was his tactical genius and flexibility that proved to make the difference for Argentina in this World Cup.

Seeing the problems facing the team, and given that few of his players were finding their best form, he did his homework: Fernandez lacked the top level experience needed on the biggest stage, so out he came, and in came the more experienced Martin Demichellis who just came off an excellent season winning the EPL with Manchester City. He proved to be the perfect partner alongside Garay at the back with solid and assured performances. The other significant change was Gago's replacement: Biglia. Seeing that Fernando was not excelling much in defence nor attack, Sabella preferred to go for a more defensive approach with Biglia's introduction, giving his defensive line an extra layer alongside the beast figure of Mascherano in the middle. Together, they were formidable!

Aguero's injury vs Nigeria meant very little, as he was already having a quiet tournament. Sabella brought in Lavezzi as his replacement and it proved to be fruitful as Ezequiel gave the team more energy with his pace and bursting runs, and also contributed more defensively in midfield.

Just when it seemed that Di Maria finally found his form for Argentina (scoring a winner against Switzerland and the assist for Higuain vs Belgium), he got injured and we lost him for good. As a result, Sabella brought in Enzo Perez who became a starter ever since. While he couldnt match Di Maria's pace and energy (let's face it, nobody can), his introduction was still positive as he somewhat added an extra dimension to Argentina's game: excellent skill and possessing better midfielder characteristics.

The result of these changes (whether by initiative or by force), resulted in more of a 4-4-2 formation that gave the team much more needed balance than the 4-3-3 that was looking like an eventual time bomb. The defence became more intact and solid, unpenetratable by even the likes of Hazard, Robben or even Muller for the most part. Suddenly, everyone was talking about Argentina's strong defence, something that would have been hard to imagine only a few weeks ago!

It's true, Argentina's potential asset was supposed to be the front line... but we had to face the reality: They simply were not delivering, and at this point Sabella had to work with the givens. With the defence looking shaky and the injured forward line failing to fire in the goals, his hand was forced to transform the team into a defensive one, relying on solidity at the back and quick counter attacks.

Unfortunately, during this "second half" of Argentina's World Cup 2014 story, we only saw one goal scored by Higuain against Belgium, their last of the tournament. However in the next two games, their performance as a team was exceptional: solid, confident, spirited, committed and determined; characteristics that carried them through the penalty shootout against the Netherlands. Romero was brilliant, saving two penalties while our penalty takers converted every single one of them.

Reaching the final in itself was huge for this battered and exhausted Argentina team. Having lost key players to injury and bad form, and having already played 2 games until the 120nd minute, and with one day less to rest than a cruising Germany team, it was always going to be a tough game for Argentina. It was clear from the beginning: if they were to win this final, they had to do so in 90 minutes, or even less. Germany were flying high, having just demolished Brazil 7-1 and were considered the favorites.

From the kick off, Argentina fought hard. The players were fully concentrated and their work rate was exceptional, closing down every open space Germany could possibly opt for and fiercly counter attacking down the flanks at utmost speed. Lavezzi ran riot against the German back line and Messi caused them all sorts of problems down the right. Chance after chance came, and Argentina were looking like they would somehow clinch it with an eventual goal. But, unfortunately... we all know now that it just didnt happen.

Higuain was presented a golden opportunity and just failed to connect properly with the ball... far from the Gonzalo we know. Lionel Messi had a great chance inside the box, but his shot went wide, begging for the class he shows at the Camp Nou. Later on, Palacio had a chance, but as we were so used to seeing from him every game since the qualifiers, he just wasted it.

Despite not hitting the target once, Argentina were clearly the more dangerous side on the night, and as the clock ticked without a goal, it was looking more and more likely that we would live to regret these lost chances for the rest of our lives. The Argentine players were looking exhausted, playing 120 minutes for a third time, dragging their lifeless bodies to battle the German machines... and eventually, as we all feared, Germany scored. Gotze came off the bench and scored a cracking winner, and that was the end of Argentina's World Cup.

Heartbreak followed for Argentina... for the third consecutive time, they crashed out to the Germans. However, if there was any way to lose this final, this was the way to do it. The players fought hard, they showed character, they created chances and most importantly, they made us all proud. They now return to Buenos Aires with heads held high and will always be remembered for finally breaking the quarter final curse. They defied the odds, made it to the final and almost won it. But in the end they fell narrowly short, losing to a strong, young and ruthless German side worthy of the trophy as well.

The game was always going to be decided by four key factors: Finishing chances, quality of the bench, mental strength and physical endurance... and admittedly, the Germans eventually beat us in all of them. Argentina had their chances, but just couldnt convert. The players off our bench were far off Germany's quality (just compare Gotze's chest and shot to that of Palacio's). In terms of mental strength, it was very even, but in the end the endurance factor gave it all away for us.

Now one would argue: Were we missing Tevez? Wouldnt he have converted those chances instead of Palacio and Higuain? My answer is that such arguments are pointless. We already had quality forwards in Aguero, Higuain and Di Maria, who all failed to find their true form... even Messi seemed to be at 70% of his own standards. Tevez would have most probably been a similar story, if not worse, considering his big-headed attitude which would have only disrupted the team's harmony from the beginning.

So this is Argentina's World Cup 2014 story... heart breaking, yet memorable. Shortcoming, yet successfull. All i can say is that i am extremely proud of this team and this tournament just made me love Argentina more and more. Following the Albiceleste is a way of life, and even if it's filled with heartbreaks and pain, there's no other team i'd rather support... it's just wonderful being a supporter of the most talented, passionate football nation in the world. Glory days WILL return, im sure of it. But in the meantime, i will continue this lovely ride...

Vamos ARGENTINA!!!




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عالية الجودة الساعات المقلدة للرجال من بين المرشحين لنيل جائزة كرة FIFA الذهبية مثل كريستيانو رونالدو وفرانك ريبيري وليونيل ميسي، وخلال الأنشطة المرتبطة بحفل كرة FIFA الذهبية، حضر الفرنسي المميّز لكن غير المعروف ربما لأكثرية مشجعي كرة القدم. احتكّ بروس جرانيك، المتوّج مرتين بلقب كأس العالم التفاعلية FIFA، مع نخبة لاعبي العالم برفقة صديقه حيث رافقه شريكه الموثوق في لعبة EA SPORTS™ FIFA 14 محمود برّاك.

جودة عالية السويسري الساعات المقلدة تلقى جرانيك لفوزه في النهائي الكبير لكأس العالم التفاعلية 2013 في مدريد 20 ألف دولار أمريكي، ورحلة لشخصين إلى حفل كرة FIFA الذهبية. في الواقع، تستحقّ رحلة كرة FIFA الذهبية أكثر بكثير من الجائزة المالية بالنسبة لأبطال FIWC. بالنسبة لهؤلاء المشجعين، الذين يمضون وقتاً طويلاً في اتقان المهارات الإفتراضية لنجوم مثل ريبيري ورونالدو وميسي في سلسلة EA SPORTS FIFA على PlayStation®3 ، فإن لقاء هؤلاء شخصياً هو بمثابة حلم يتحقق. كلّ سنة، يشارك أفضل لاعبي كرة القدم الإفتراضيين يشاركون في كأس العالم التفاعلية FIFA، أكبر لعبة على الإنترنت في العالم، على أمل أن يختبروا ما عاشه بروس اليوم.

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عالية الجودة الساعات المقلدة يورجن كلوب ومارتا يفاجأن بروس في المؤتمر الصحافي لكأس العالم التفاعلية FIFA، قبل ساعات من الحفل الرسمي، دُعي بروس إلى المسرح من قبل ألن ماك إينلي معلّق كأس العالم التفاعلية 2013 لتلقي شهادة كأس العالم التفاعلية FIFA. لحسن حظّ بروس، فاجأه يورجن كلوب، المرشح لجائزة أفضل مدرّب FIFA. وقال يورجن لبروس وهو يصافحه: "لاعبو فريقي، سيكونون محظوظين بملاقاتك."

أعلى الساعات العلامة التجارية بعد تلقيه جائزته، فوجىء بروس بنجم آخر. أفضل لاعبة في العالم خمس مرات مارتا سارت على المسرح لتحدّي البطل. قالت مارتا لبروس بالبرتغالية: "تدرّبت كثيراً، فلننزل إلى الملعب".

السويسري الساعات المقلدة كانت المباراة بين فرنسا والبرازيل، وهي مباراة افتراضية كلاسيكية. بدأت مرتا بالصراخ: "هيا أركض!... تسلل!"، فاندمجت باللعب مع بطل العالم. ظهرت روح مارتا التنافسية وأجبرت بروس على تقديم مستواه. "الحركة الأخيرة!"، صرخ بروس مراراً وهو يشنّ هجمته الأخيرة في المباراة، آملاً تسجيل هدف الفوز في اللحظات الأخيرة. دفاع رائع من مارتا حرم بروس من التسجيل فانتهت المباراة القوية بالتعادل 0-0.

قال بروس: "لا أزال غير مصدق أني هنا. هذا ما يجعل من الفوز بلقب كأس العالم التفاعلية FIFA يستحق العناء." بعد انتهاء المؤتمر، سينضمّ بروس إلى الحفل المنتظر، لالتقاط الصور، مشاركة بعض الكلمات ومصافحة عدد كبير من نجومه المفضلين.

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كأس العالم التفاعلية FIFA هي أكبر لاعبة على الانترنت في العالم. نسخة 2014 من البطولة تقام حالياً مع ثلاثة مواسم تأهيلية متبقية. ستختتم كأس العالم التفاعلية 2014 بنهائي ريو دي جانيرو الكبير خلال كأس العالم البرازيل 2014 FIFA! شاركوا الآن في كأس العالم التفاعلية FIFA!

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Категории : Статьи     Рейтинг 19 Голоса В ходе недавнего общения с некими камрадами с Украины обнаружилось, что русским националистам в России не хватает внятной и вменяемой позиции по украинской национальной проблематике. يدق بواسطة دري Т.е., если такая позиция и есть, то до русских на Украине она не доходит, и никаких заметных шагов им навстречу не производится. И сидят они там грустно, пребывая в убеждении, что русские "из метрополии" подружились с "украинскими нациками", а на своих собратьев наплевали слюной. يدق بواسطة دري الموالية Так что остается украинским русским надеяться только на Путина - вдруг он придет и спасет их от невзгод. Хотелось бы по этому поводу сформулировать свою личную позицию - с обязательной оговоркой, что она, во-первых, именно моя личная, а во-вторых, носит предварительный характер и поддается корректировке и уточнению. يدق بواسطة دري منفرد hd 1. هولة نبض ب سماعات دري Сейчас на Украине (или "в Украине", но мне удобнее говорить, как я привыкла) происходит процесс нациогенеза. يدق بواسطة دري منفرد hd Украинцы или малороссы, исторически представлявшие собой субэтнос русского народа, в течение последних, по крайней мере, двух столетий постепенно превращаются в отдельный народ. يدق بواسطة دري الاستوديو Со своим языком, своей историей и исторической мифологией, своими символами, коллективными симпатиями и антипатиями - во многом входящими в противоречие с традиционной исторической памятью, мифологией, симпатиями и антипатиями русского народа. Русский националист, естественно, радоваться этому не может: ведь в результате русских становится меньше. То, что украинская национальная идентичность во многом строится на противостоянии русским и очернении русских, тем более радости не добавляет. Многие русские националисты считают, что за украинским нациостроительством стоит некая чуждая, недоброжелательная по отношению и к русским, и к самим украинцам политическая сила и воля (точнее, несколько разных сил в разные периоды) - и, кажется, действительно есть основания так думать. Но само существование украинского народа налицо - глупо закрывать на него глаза, и невозможно говорить о нем исключительно в терминах какой-то роковой ошибки или "заговора". Процесс, захвативший миллионы людей - это уже точно не "заговор"; и с самосознанием, умонастроением и волей этих людей, безусловно, стоит считаться. 2. Этническая группа, осознающая себя украинцами, имеет право на национальное самоопределение. Т.е. украинцы имеют полное право жить в собственном национальном государстве, пользоваться политической, экономической и культурной независимостью, использовать и развивать свой язык, иметь собственные исторические, историософские и этнополитические концепции, и т.д., и т.п. 3. НО! Важная оговорка. Все это должно происходить не за счет русских и не в ущерб русским . Русские на Украине (а также "русскоязычные" - т.е. те, кто идентифицируют себя как украинцы, но говорят по-русски и принадлежат к русской культуре) не должны страдать и терпеть неудобства оттого, что живут в украинском государстве . Они должны пользоваться всеми правами и возможностями, которые предусматривает европейская Конвенция о защите национальных меньшинств. Они имеют право на свободное использование русского языка и обучение на русском языке, на развитие своей культуры (включая собственную историческую и этнополитическую картину мира), на национальное представительство, а в перспективе - и на национальное самоопределение. Они не должны слышать от властей своей страны оскорбления и унижения в адрес своего народа, языка, истории, традиционных для них ценностей и значимых символов. Они имеют право поддерживать активные контакты с русскими в России, имеют право выступать за свои национальные интересы, не превращаясь из-за этого в "предателей" и "пятую колонну" и не терпя преследований. Русские не должны выслушивать упреки или сталкиваться с противодействием из-за того, что остаются русскими, говорят по-русски, издают и читают книги по-русски и т.д. Насильственная, навязываемая сверху "украинизация" недопустима. 4. Говорить о присоединении Украины (или каких-то ее частей) к России сейчас, когда в России нет русского государства, совершенно бессмысленно. Допустим, присоединится Украина к России - и что? Получившееся государство будет просто сочетать в себе худшие черты того и другого. То, что русский народ разделен - плохо, и будущее Русское государство, видимо, в той или иной форме этот вопрос поднимет; но пока об этом нет смысла рассуждать даже гипотетически. 5. Однако русские националисты в России вовсе не "бросили" русских на Украине, не забыли о них и не считают их себе чужими. Действительно, мы здесь заняты в первую очередь собственными проблемами - при серьезности проблем и ограниченности ресурсов это естественно. Но наш долг - защищать русских, требовать соблюдения их прав и выступать за их интересы не только в России, но и везде, где русские есть. И от этого долга мы не отказываемся. Мы готовы поддерживать контакты с русскими на Украине и помогать им всем, что в наших силах . И по отдельным вопросам: 6. Увы, но, по всей видимости, говорить о нынешней Украине как об успешном украинском национальном государстве невозможно. Режимом Януковича недовольны все, кого ни спроси, от самых "фофудьеносных" русских до самых что ни на есть свидомых укров. Местные жители отмечают чрезвычайную коррумпированность, бедность, отсутствие каких-либо внятных перспектив и широкую распространенность уголовщины и бандитских нравов. Иные, имевшие возможность сравнить, говорят, что в России живется намного лучше - хоть нам и трудно в такое поверить. Так что, хотя некоторые внешние черты современной Украины (например, люди в вышиванках на улицах, или малое количество и приличный вид кавказцев там же) радуют глаз туриста, и приятно верить в то, что братья-славяне совсем рядом с нами строят успешное национальное государство - но, по-видимому, это совсем не так. 7. Приходится иногда слышать высказывания типа: "Украинские националисты - наши друзья и братья, потому что националисты разных народов всегда друг друга поймут, а кроме того, они против советской власти, и мы тоже; а вот украинские русские - совки, путинисты и носят фофудью, нам с ними ловить нечего". Подобные откровения могу объяснить только юношеским максимализмом (а у людей более зрелых - просто глупостью). 7.1. Националисты разных народов "всегда друг друга поймут" в том смысле, что мотивации друг друга им понятны. Один может поставить себя на место другого. Но из этого никак не следует, что они должны быть друзьями и братьями. Отнюдь! А если их интересы пересекаются - что, вообще-то, у народов-соседей случается сплошь и рядом? Отношения между собой националистов разных народов - нормальные, дипломатические. В каких-то случаях сотрудничество, в каких-то союзы (например, против общего врага), а в каких-то, когда возникает столкновение интересов - вражда. А "взаимопонимание и дружба", сопряженные с забвением собственных интересов, в ущерб себе и своим - это как раз подход в духе интернационализма. 7.2. Любовь или нелюбовь к советской власти, на мой взгляд, является для каждого русского (и нерусского тоже) его личным делом. Подавляющее большинство националистов считают, что национальная политика СССР была ошибочной и должна быть скорректирована. Но, кроме этого вопроса, отношение к СССР в целом или к каким-то его элементам - абсолютно дело личных убеждений каждого. И отношение русского националиста к другим русским не может зависеть от того, любят ли они красный цвет, какого покроя у них фофудья, уважают они или проклинают каких-нибудь знаменитых покойников. "Украинские националисты против советской власти, как и я - значит, нам не о чем спорить!" - это вообще песТня. Граждане антисоветчики, включите мозг. Тигр против охотников, и олень тоже; но кто сделает из этого вывод, что тигру с оленем спорить не о чем, и посадит их в одну клетку, того ждет горькое разочарование. Человек, который в конфликте русских с нерусскими встает на сторону нерусских, потому что "эти русские совки, а нерусские ненавидят Сталина, как и я!" - он, значит, просто не является русским националистом, и ему лучше себя определить как-нибудь иначе. Единственное, что действительно важно в таких вопросах - реальные, актуальные интересы той и другой стороны. Если в самоидентификацию многих русских на Украине традиционно входят советские элементы - значит, таково их самосознание. Связано это с тем, как сложилась их жизнь. Для них это осмысленно и несет в себе определенный положительный заряд. Если это заблуждение - значит, со временем, когда сложатся для этого условия, они от этого отойдут или переосмыслят. 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Обратная сторона этой проблемы в том, что русское движение на Украине сильно инфильтровано путинскими людьми. Что ж, для русских националистов ситуация знакомая; надо просто это учитывать и "ходить опасно". Добавлю, что для меня эта тема имеет личный интерес: я наполовину украинка. :-) И с удовольствием выслушаю мнения и почитаю серьезные источники по теме - с обеих сторон. автор Наталия Холмогорова, исполнительный директор "Русского Общественного Движения" يدق بواسطة سماعات دري
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UTG_Moon92
(Brazil)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 7:14 PM
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Thanks ZiggY! You summed up very nicely the team's as well as the fan's journey through that WC. There was heartbreak indeed (a lot of it in my case), but it wasn't accompanied by the feeling that they could have done more.
Very proud of them. But we were sooooo close...........
(Sorry, I still can help it)


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 6:00 AM
0
Germany converted they difficult chance
Argentina missed 3 sitters

end of discussion. those misses were not bad luck, Germany header was bad luck!!

look, a semi fit aguero and higuain are still better than di santos and crap like that i have no problem,
gago was an issue forme as its always like argemtina playing with 10 men, bringing on campa or basanta would been better than gago (assuming sabella was playng for penalties). i cant imagine he brought gago on for his pace, exceptional dribbling skills or vision(which hadnt been there all tournament)

when gago went out of team we became different, solid midfield protecting defence and less nervous as a team, when he came back it changed.

regardless of higuain aguero etc, they are proven players, gago was in truth always an average player, he was no more than a battaglia, a sixto peralta, a nicolas medina, an aldo dusher, and marinelli, and romagnoli


Bruce Wayne
(India)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 3:25 AM
0
Sabella made all the right moves says Diego Simeone. Here ks what he said

"Argentina almost hurt Germany, especially at the start of the match and the beginning of the second half. In those passages of the game, Argentina were superior. In extra-time, however, Germany looked the more likely to score – and that’s what happened.

Germany had an extra day’s rest and didn’t play extra-time in their semi-final, so perhaps Argentina were missing some fresh legs at the end. There were no fresh players to bring on in extra-time and that was maybe a factor.

But Germany were the most consistent team in the competition. Apart from the game against Algeria, they were the team that played the most consistently, the team with the most options in attack, with a group of players enjoying a positive moment and at the right age. Apart from players like Miroslav Klose and Bastian Schweinsteiger, this is a very young German team.

And it’s no coincidence that they’ve won the World Cup. I’m not surprised at all. They have been competing like this for a long time, they were in the semi-finals in 2006 and then again in 2010. Sooner or later, they were going to win it again and this time, they were lucky enough to get the goal right at the end of the game – just when we were heading for penalties.

Sabella did a lot of good work for Argentina in this competition. Bringing in Martin Demichelis was a great decision, the selection of Lucas Biglia and Enzo Perez too. The way he used Ezequiel Lavezzi to track back, the decision to keep faith with Sergio Romero and also Marcus Rojo, who had been criticised.

The coach did a lot of good things in this World Cup and I believe the final was just as he had imagined it: 4-4-2 with Lionel Messi and Gonzalo Higuain looking to break away with their pace. They were close and if Argentina had gone ahead, it would have been no surprise.

Higuain, Rodrigo Palacio and Messi all had clear chances, but none of them was able to hit the target. But these things happen in football and sometimes there is no reason for it, so there’s no point dwelling on that.

Sabella hasn’t said he is leaving yet, so we’ll have to see what happens. Coaching the national team is something I would like to do in future and I’m convinced the opportunity will arise, but only when I have more experience.
I’m a club coach and I enjoy the day-to-day contact with the players. A national team doesn’t give you that and I think there are people who are better prepared.

I’m still living the experience of coaching day to day. When I have developed much more as a coach, when I have more experience, when I’m older, having managed different clubs, I’m sure I’ll get a chance with the national team. But not now."


@elpipita - 100percent true. Before nobody blamed sabella for his selection of kun and higuain. We all hoped they would recover and peak by the right time. We all bashed him for selecting rojo and romero, no one can deny that. Furthermore, We lost to a german team whose coach had experience of 10 years or more with the present team (including his stint as assistant coach under jurgen klinsmann), Sabella got less than 3 years. Let's give this a break and appreciate him for what he had helped the team to achieve - semi final and a final after 24 years! WHO ELSE THINKS NEUER DESERVES A RED FOR THAT INHUMAN STUNT??


gabo
(United States)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 3:13 AM
0
if the German dance does not entice an Argentine win in 2018, nothing will! They've had our number for a long time, and boy, when Higuain missed that first shot, I felt a 1-0 from 1990, a 1-1 from 2006, and a 4-0 from 2010 all at the same time! I think my face went pale, and just thought to myself that boy, anyone with just a bit of pride would bury that so hard that either his muscle or Neuer's net tear apart!!

and no, you do not want to know what I said to myself when he mis-timed his run through that broken offside trap and got me thinking for a second that he has actually scored!


gabo
(United States)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 3:01 AM
1
I personally would take Higuain and Aguero to world cup, but then again, I'm not making my money coaching Argentina! Shouldn't Sabella be 10 steps ahead of us? I don't recall Sabella receiving harsh words for his choice of defenders. No one here criticized him for Rojo. Actually, many people here said Rojo had a fantastic season and much more is to come from him. MD was praised for his recent form with Man City and Garay and Zabaletta were no brainers. The only gray areas were the middle (I remember lots of debates on Banega!) and attackers.

I don't know if one should blame Sabella or the players themselves. Falaco was in a similar situation and perhaps Pekerman would go through with him, but it was the player who said he cannot be fully fit for the world cup and he did not want to take anyone's spot if he is not fully fit! well, that's colombia and you have to agree that the options are much more limited than Argentina! still they make the right decisions and adjust. They even manage to change formation on a short notice and yet exceed expectations.

I think the players gambled and the coach played along. I would still understand if he wanted to take 1 or 2 risks, but as pablo.d here mentioned, to do that with no back up is not a smart move! and why an unfit Gago? even a fit Gago is not out of question. but really, when he went in against Germany, our midfield started to cry! and that's a well rested Gago way past his initial injury (remember his pass to Messi near the end?!!).

What was needed was more sacrifice on the player side and more flexibility by the manager. The player knows their recovery cycle better. I'm sure this was not the first time they were dealing with injuries.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 1:37 AM
0
@elpipita: Read this, Sabella's confession about hig/Aguero injuries:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/argentina/10947495/World-Cup-2014-Argentina-coach-Alex-Sabella-hits-back-at-critics-who-say-his-side-is-a-one-man-team.html


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 1:17 AM
1
@elpipita: Don't get me wrong I'm supporting Sabella now more than ever. He's genius tactically and proved it this world cup. I wasn't criticized all his player selection, in fact he took the best midfielders and defenders available. He made Argentina look with the most solid defense in this tournament. I honestly don't want him to step down....now what I was referring to was Forward selection:

As an attacking team like Argentina, you are supposed to take with you 6 or 5 forwards, now since he went with minimum number, 5 only.....he should have considered player finishing ability, form wise before the world cup (will talk about that later), age as you need one fresh young striker (most teams have that flair in their attack and they became best young player of the tournament), style of play and versatility (both Lavezzi and Palacio got that versatility but why we take both when they suck in finishing.....they have been tried million times), and reaction time when in penalty area (Only Messi and FIT Aguero got that).

Back to the main argument about evaluating being fit in time. Higuain and Aguero weren't fit before World cup, Aguero in particular as it was a bad knee injury and he barely could celebrate with M.City end of May. You only have 3 weeks before WC, even if a player is recovered meanwhile, you still need 3 games min to start slowly for 20, 30, 45 min gradually each game before you hit your fitness level and can be a reliable player. This is not enough time and too much risk to take, especially for 2 players......I agree it's too tempting to take them from the stardom perspective......However he should have selected Higuain who defends and tackle better anyways and give a final spot for a good finisher/young who is hungry to shine in the WC and get attention to start for his club.....we have plenty of these, Icardi would've been the star of the tournament or Iturbe instead of James Rodriguez, who knows.

If you look deeper, Messi needed what Maradona needed in 1990- Cannigia. Young fast striker with great finishing ability especially if the plan is counterattacking with 4-4-2. Messi needed that spark in the attack to make a duo for every attempt on target. If you have noticed, my argument here before WC started was that our strikers are not enough for Messi.....I have been screening them playing in their clubs and noticed they wouldn't be enough for this WC and they all stumbled in friendlies and late qualifier games. I was visualizing one gets injured and another one comes in a bad form, Lavezzi/Palacio are midfielders in my dictionary of the game....that would leave Messi alone, though I had hope for Di Maria but unluckily he was jinxed and got injured too.


noori
(Pakistan)
Posted on 7/17/2014 at 1:03 AM
0
I love this team more than ever. After losing 4-0 in QF in 2010, I told myself I will not watch football and abandoned argentina worldcup blog. But when this world cup started, I couldn't control myself but again Germans broke my heart. When Gotze scored, I once again told myself enough is enough. Wait four years and end with tears. In 1990 WC I didn't understand football. I only knew two names: Argentina and Maradona; and that is since I love this team. And this will remain forever, no matter what the result will be.
It hurts!! It really hurts. You wait for four years and it ends in disappointment. It broke my heart this time and I was in shock. But after two days its again my beloved Argentina....
Of course I am disappointed. But what I love about this team is that they fight till end. there was no Maradona, no Batistuta and Crespo. No Roman, Aimar, and no Veron. No Ayala and Samuel. but still we reached Final and fight till end against world's best team. How can I forget when Zabalata was running with broken jaw and bleeding lips,, Biglia with his injured hand. And what can I say about JM. No words to describe......who gave his everything for the shirt. That's why I am proud of this team.
VAMOS ARGENTINA


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 9:47 PM
2
Arg2014 hindsight is 20/20 and no body in their right minds would've dropped kun or pipita so soon before the world cup and especially not after one bad friendly and don't forget that Kun was fantastic against Romania unlike the rest of the fab 4.

Before the world cup no one and I mean NO ONE here or anywhere else in the football world criticized Sabella for taking kun and pipita because we all assumed (and hoped) that they would get fit in time and pipita did regain his fitness but not his killer instinct unfortunately.
Sabella was criticized for taking Romero, Rojo, Basanta and demichiles and they shut everyone up.

Look I'm not saying that Sabella is a perfect coach but he was a fine coach who was let down by his supposed "superstar" forwards.
People criticized him for taking out lavezzi and Enzo and bringing in Gago and Kun but the reality is Argentina didn't lose the game because of these substitutions but rather because, again, our forwards failed to deliver.

@pablo D Sabella had a total of 2 and half (sporadic) years with the NT, that's not enough time to start from scratch with all new youth players.
Sabella gradually changed his selections from those average players that he trusted (Dispato, Brana, Guinazu, Sosa etc....) to the best players available like biglia, Enzo, Rojo, Basanta etc......
I personally would love to see what Sabella can do when given a full 4 year cycle to build a team upon.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 3:45 PM
0
arg2014: I agree their were red flags before the w/c and some of us here were pointing them out but to no avail, infact we were ridiculed on here and sadly they came true in the attacking department from the mid attackers to the strikers.

like you I don't want tata in charge at all-no

sabella should go as he will not change, he has never been into youth players and always like older player's, just look at his selections in the quilif or friendlies and when youth were picked they got little to no time to show their stuff.

as like a lot of us im hoping its d/s and I will be really angry if the afa does not at least talk to him and then we will know if its a yes or no as last time he was asked the job was not available.

if sabella is to stay and fails in the copa what then? its another wasted year and means another years lost towards Russia 18.




Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 2:45 PM
0
Gabo, loved it


Budhasmilez
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 1:37 PM
0
http://sports.ndtv.com/fifa-world-cup-2014/news/226997-germany-s-victory-dance-taunting-argentina-draws-fire

Hope we get a chance to give them back in a real tournament.


Adeel
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 1:14 PM
0
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arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 1:04 PM
0
We need some links on player reaction about the last game, their planning, etc.....some videos combine all the misses our attackers committed.....lets make this blog alive. End of World cup doesn't mean the end of the world......We can reach the final again next world cup, Brazil did it back to back, Germany did it back to back, and Argentina did it back to back.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 12:32 PM
0
Sabella is taking time to think before he makes a decision.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 12:10 PM
1
Please God no Tata......he doesn't have the winning mentality, and knows zero about defence. He made Barca's goal wide open for school kids to horrendously score whenever they want to try. His subs and rotation suck, he just sticks with 11 players and has no control on big egos in the dressing room, Xavi was running the circus for him last season with Barca......He can't influence his team psychologically. His time with Paraguay was decent, but I was never liked that team in 2010, and I thought they played rubbish with no solid plan.....pure Tata plan (with no plan).....he knows nothing about his opponents and never changes tactics as Sabella. If you think Sabella was 8 out 10, then consider Tata as 4 out of 10. Argentina will be done with Tata. Sabella better stays or we all regret.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 11:59 AM
2
@elpipita: I agree that Sabella's efforts and tactics took us all the way to the final, but as for the case of taking Aguro/ Higuain both just because it's too tempting......I think he should have gambled with one of them, not both. We have plenty of other options in the attack. Here is my perception:
The entire world knows that Aguero had a bad knee injury, and it takes him several games before he gains back his full fitness as usual with his club, he was spent with City obvious at the end of season. Aguero is injury prone and that's why Barca couldn't pay lots of money on him. Taking both Lavezzi and Palacio was completely wrong as both provide same play style with NO Goals. I was protesting on here about our strikers selection and I believe that Icardi, Iturbe and Gaitan should have been selected over Aguero, Palacio and Gago....even Scocco would be a better alternate.

Our game against Romania raised all red flag about our strikers.....our friendly game against Slovenia before WC did the same.....how many red flags are required before a coach can take a serious note?

Why did we take Ricky Alvarez with us if he's just a spot filler in 23 player list? He also should have been thrown on the Germans and get them busy, don't you think?


Notoraj
(Finland)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 10:42 AM
0
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TALIA
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 9:26 AM
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NO country has such ahuge numbers of talented footballers this ARGENTINA And every one now that let we say the common phrase which alot says now may not the best won because the badies most of the times won but that will no more seein all again in 2018 with messi lifting the world cup trouphy for ARGENTINA LOVE SOOOOOO MUCH ARGENTINA


TALIA
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 9:17 AM
0
Thanks argentina because you showed us the real face of the germans despite the 4-0 against port. And 7-1against brazil they were struggling to score all 9o minutes and extra times the highest numbers numbers reaching semi and finals among all world cup teams since 1990 yet fails to get the title even majority of their team frome bayrin munich which is been crushed by real madrid 4-0 what agood team your talking about ganah nearly beaten them they were very lucky to draw and they struggled again against algeria taken them to extra time this is thereal face ofth german and they won against brazil 7-1not because they were good but beecause brazil tooooooo bad and agsinst portgual bcause the circmctances wasnt normal when pepe get red card the same in final 1990 when given 2 red cards to argentina players because the referre favoured them due it was in their country the same with this italian referre who admit he did mistakes in this final cup argentina reach final once since 1990 and they were very very close to win not reaching nearly 8 times like what german did and keep loosing they so what kind of team is this and they turned their NT to united nations team from poland , turkey, tunis and much more that show how bad team is the germans and how amazing and strong argentina foottball team beating those germans 3-1 on their on soil in 2012 friendly non in the world of football history


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 8:00 AM
1
Either should give sabella one more chance to check whether he is showing any improvement from de faults or shud appoint one with long term vision....



baker
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:53 AM
0
Entire last season , i had watched man city and napoli matches just for Kun and Pipita , am felling regretted now for that.

this year there is no club football for me , But i will just try to observe the performance of our young bloods.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:52 AM
0
Pochettino style is perfect one for NT... And also lallana, shaw, lambert all told that he had a great influence on them in this year's prfmnc... But one doubt is his dfnsv side, sometimes i felt as a typical argentine coach emphasising on beauty than de result watching some big losses from him....


HaititoArg
(United States)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:51 AM
2
Gago don't have anything to do about us loosing the world its iguain Messi and palacio... Football is not is not interesting to me anymore after the lost and I wanna hear about how good they doing in their clubs.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:51 AM
0
sabella has done good job, but with him now i feel it will be another final, but then he was get scared and petrified

look at Bosnia game, he started 5-3-2 as he was nervous
look at Germany game, was nervous brought on gago (lol)
he even brought gago in vs Belgium and we nearly conceded at end as well.

he is a nervous wreck i want someone with balls, if we go out its with guns blazing


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:41 AM
0
We need one with perfect balance on defense n attack... A personality who has good respect in country between players n people, possibly a young blood with a long term vision...


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:36 AM
0
agree lets move on

no matter what some of players do now for club is meaningless. higuain palacio aguero can go to be slaves again.

They were celebtrating and clubbing which is fine, but as i said, these lot will go back to their overpaid multi rich lives again they will forget about it

but i hope higuain palacio never forget!!!! never seen strikers have a heart attack when given a chance esp palacio. all off them were defender finish


baker
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:33 AM
0
Lets move on guys....
So which are young guns can be ready for 2018...?

i am thinking these guns need to get a shot
GK: Rulli

Def: Orban,mussachio,lisandro lopez,
DM: matias kranvieter ,Lucas Romero

Mid: sanches mino,Botta, Mugni.

forwards: lamela,ocampos,iturbe,Correa



dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 7:22 AM
0


What was Germany last changes - gotze, what was ours GAGO

this sums up the difference between the substitutions

even schurle came on for a def medfielder

i will repet for ever higuain, palacio (a guy i love at inter) and gago (for being gago) cost us the world cup


niklucky02
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 5:06 AM
0
Hi Johnny, big fan of you. what is your take on Sabella? and Y r u so quiet these days ?


Poto
(United States)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 5:03 AM
0
Tevezisgod I agree 100%.


tevezisgod
(Israel)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 4:51 AM
2
Many conflicting reports in the media about the new manager. Some say that Sabella will stay, some say Martino, and some are even talking about Gareca, Pekerman and Sampaoli.
I'll say it again - I would be glad to see Sabella continue and if not, Martino is a great option. Many of you here are saying he'll be a step back, but that's just plain ignorance (with all due respect). He had absolutely no chance in Barcelona, and when I think about what he did with Paraguay my mouth begins to water. They were one missed penalty from potentially eliminating Spain.


Deb
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 4:39 AM
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First comment after the final. Am not feeling like being regular here anymore. But I still love Mundo, and plan to come back a few months later. I do hope all the good old bloggers would be here to greet each other. Copa 2015 would be exciting.


niklucky02
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 4:21 AM
0
Just running onto some comments from the comment section.. I feel what would have happen if Low was terminated from his job after failure in WC 2010 and Euro 2012?


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 3:39 AM
0
I am repeating it once again, Sabella is a defensive mubded coach, he has no clue how to attack and he is as stubborn as you can get when it comes to choosing youth! Its a big No for him.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 3:25 AM
0
elpipita: as always good posts but I disagree with you on the taking of kun and hig if not fit.

I can understand why most would take them (who would not) but in case they were not fit in time (same for gago) where were the back up options?, its obvious to every one that pal and lav will not score you many goals, simply put sabella gambled but had no back up as a plan b in case these 3 were not fit and it cost us.

its been obvious that all plans were messi and messi and any one watching our games will see we were just short of rubbish through the w/c, it was luck and not great tactics that got us their.
the swis hitting the post and the rebound going wide, the pens vs the dutch are a lottery, simply put lady luck got us the the final where then she decided to leave us (the bitch lol)

we defended well in 3 games only being the bel, holl and the final, we were rubbish in the 1st 3 games.

sabella picked lav and pal as out back up players and believed in them to be our back up goal scores, they got zero between them and I struggle to remember when they troubled a keeper.
these are all decisions any good coach has to make and he made them and got them wrong, add to it the poor way he used the subs and I struggle to see why people want him to stay.
perhaps its fact we have not been in a final for so long? no matter how we got their some people refuse to look at the bigger picture and part of it is sabella talks a good talk and he makes all us fans and media feel like we are his friend and I do agree he is one hell of a nice guy.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 3:03 AM
0
"players ridiculed Argentina during the reception"
as much as this makes me angry we have lost to them in the last 3 w/c running and id also ridicule them.
add to it id be giving grief to hig and pal for their misses, "you cost you team the w/c" and they would deserve it.


msi2
(France)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 2:59 AM
0
What has Damian Martinez done in Arsenal?


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 2:54 AM
0
Definite changes i wish to see in copa....

1) Garay-Fazio CB pairing, wud be de best in world n cud build up a very good understanding by 2018 WC, both will be only 31, perfect period for CBs imo...
2) Continue with masche+biglia/perez as DMs n add 2 good creative mids to that... Best performers of ricky, gaitan, pastore, lamela, iturbe need to be added to di maria... A 4 men mid with 2 DMs n AMs...
3) Use messi as second striker not as mid fielder... If higuain n aguero dnt get back their fitness level try any new guys...
4) Bring in geronimo rulli n damien martinez to squad for andujar n orion....


baker
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 2:53 AM
0
Amen to that elpipita.

With out sabellas defensive tactics , we wont be reaching this far for sure. We were all discuiing we may need to outscore the opponents since our defenders and Gk will let in many goals. but all these proved wrong.

I want sabella in atleast till copa , but whoever the newcomers should continue from the platform created by sabella. the hardworking DMs and defense is our strength now.
Now need to add more variations to the offense , try new bloods on the offense department , make sure kun and pipita will sweat hard to get chance for NT.

We have to try for possesion bases style , counter attacking and setpieces .

our future looks bright guys , we will rise again


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 2:37 AM
0
What we back fired most is one of our biggest concern before de WC, replacement for di maria.... When we check de squad generally we lacked attacking mids or creative mids, gave more emphasise on mids good at defending than their attacking brilliance, an over care on defense than attack, may be its sabella's nature or because of de general talks had whole world on our defense made sabella in over emphasise on defense... If there were able men to give adequate support to strikers n if messi was used as a second striker without additional duties, he woyld have more fresh throughout de tournament.... And if higuain n aguero is used to share de 90 mins rather than starting both together they wud also been better n also cud hav avoided de situation of playing palacio as striker.... The best turnaround is lavezzi turned to a very good winger as de tournament progress especially in final really looked determined, but.......... When we recap our attacking play were poor, we cud see that from de goals we scored... We relied massively on counters n jst sucked to create play in normal game, which is very unusual from us....




mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 2:37 AM
3
@Adeel are you kidding me?!!!!
Sabella didn't ruin anybody's career; Tevez's abysmal 13goals in 65 game ratio and his never ending b**ch fest is what ruined his career with the NT
As for Ansaldi (whom I am a fan of) well Rojo and Basanta both proved to be superb fullbacks and the funny thing is neither of them are actual natural fullbacks.
Monzon defensive skills are about as good as Messi's nuff said!
Fazio opened his big mouth and called Sabella "disrespectful" on national radio, so I don't blame Sabella one bit for not taking his disrespectful hide to the world cup. If Fazio was even remotely smart he would've kept his mouth shut.
Zarate????!!!! The guy has an even worse attitude than Tevez and non of the skills or the success to back it up, good riddens to him.
Pastore? you mean the guy who had ONE single good moment for PSG throughout the entire year, despite the fact that Blanc kept giving him chance after chance?? No thanks!

Sabella has done a fantastic job and the team made it to the final because of him, that's a fact and it was our forwards that let the team down plain and simple.
Some of you are saying that Sabella shouldn't have taken Kun and pipita to the world cup if they weren't fully fit but let me ask you this, would you leave kun and pipita at home if you thought there was a decent chance that they'd be fit in time....yeah I didn't think so.

I pray to god that Sabella stays but if he doesn't I hope whoever takes over the reigns realizes that it was the system (and some talent) that took Argentina all the way and as long as Argentina sticks to the hard working, pragmatic and balanced system that they developed in the latter stages of the world cup then they can go far.


mayjoybastian
(India)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 2:31 AM
0
http://www.zeit.de/sport/2014-07/nationalmannschaft-berlin
this is a link from a respectable german newspaper Zeit about the reception of Nationalmannschaft at Berlin.
They also mentioned how some of the players ridiculed Argentina during the reception.
I wish I live to see the days Argentina thrashing german panzer.


Conquer 2018 russia
(United States)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 1:22 AM
0
y aguero, palacio, gago were selected . yyyyyyy not tevez .hope sabella hav a nice lesson


msi2
(France)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 12:23 AM
0
Just read that on Juan Pablo Varsky's twitter account:

"El vicepresidente de la Asociación Paraguaya de Fútbol dijo que Martino rechazó la oferta para volver porque "le dio su palabra a la AFA"


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 7/16/2014 at 12:07 AM
0
Nice job Ziggy !


Adeel
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 10:05 PM
1
Sabella is responsible in ruining the careers of Tevez, Caballero, Pastore, Gaitan, Fazio, Ansaldi, Monzon, Yacob, German Denis, Zarate ... they were deserved to be called in the team atleast for the final selection, to show their commitment to their country, but rather than doing this, he mess with players like Augusto, Palacio, Alvarez, Lamela, Maxi, Biglia, Gago ....

Tevez should be selected to the national team as his last World cup appearance, Gaitan and Pastore were far better than Palacio and Gago , but anyway time has gone now, we lost the WC and need a good manager to the team and i hope Tata Martino will be the choosen one.

Kick out Higuain, Aguero, Palacio, Augusto, Sosa, Alvarez, Lamela, Maxi, and gago from the current squad and put some real talent who give their 100 percent to the team and country.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 7:27 PM
0
Iturbe to roma


juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:45 PM
0



juliocruzinter

(Argentina)



Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:43 PM




its says Gugnali the assistant coach to continue not sabella



juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:43 PM
0
sabella has not decided


juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:43 PM
0
its says Gugnali the assistant coach to continue not sabella


juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:41 PM
0
San Isidro read the article properly before you post false info


juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:40 PM
0
on top of that tata does not want argy job


juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:39 PM
0
sabella has not decided San Isidro


juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:39 PM
0
San Isidro read the article properly


juliocruzinter
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:38 PM
0
no it says assistant to continue ure wrong

coach.

"I think the continuity of Sabella would be very good. But we'll have to define Alexander and the AFA. Spoke not a single word about the continuity. Wish to follow because Alejandro is intact," the contributor on ESPN 107.9 FM. He added: "It is a successful cycle, finished first in the playoffs and played the final of the World There is little to criticize, but of course there are things to improve.".

Also highlighted Gugnali behavior and armed group during their stay in the World Cup. "There was no sign of disagreement, the costume was a long party., We were in a bubble full of responsibilities, happiness and talks football, and activities do not allow us to invade," noted former player of Estudiantes LP.

The employee said he was "very happy" after the runner made in Brazil and messages received on your arrival. "When you lose and leave you messages left wants to tell me that also won.'re Proud all samples and that makes me greetings people and friends," said the aide of Pachorra.

On the way to work Sabella, Gugnali commented. "Alejandro (Sabella) is a great person, and we view open permanently, but the final decisions are finite and it develops much the opponent prior to study." Finally, Gugnali pondered to Germany to give continuity to the coach and continue a cycle that takes several years.

"The German is admirable, has to do with the country and the society they live. Moreover, 80 percent of the national team players play in Germany," concluded the contributor.


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:35 PM
1
@msi2, Rojo is only get improved by time...the players i mentioned are waiting for their turn...! I did not mean to get rid of every player we have now. Those players i mentioned can emerge into NT soon. Some can start and some can be sub.


San Isidro
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:33 PM
0
To all
It is on canchallena.com


messifan
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:30 PM
0
guled SABELLA has not decided yet read Argentina ole newspaper online and nothing on AFAs website

Sabella is having a few days rest before he decides OK


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:25 PM
0
It is looks likely sabella will stay, it is great news, I think we can win the copa and build for 2018, but many young players need to be brought to the team, no more gago and more higuain, even aguero who was terrible and I doubt he will ever gain his fitness back becouse of big muscles in small body,bring icardi,iturbe and some young defenders


GAB
(Australia)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:23 PM
1
Pablo, I agree because I'm yet to read or hear anything official that confirms it. But I'm really wanting to believe that was the case because surely a decent coach would not take off a player that was playing exceptionally well.

I read that Mou said he didn't understand the Lavezzi substitution and if it wasn't because he was injured, then it was an idiotic decision by Sabella.


cruz123
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:22 PM
0
so it stands sabella has not decided yet, don't post false info without proof


zizo
(Jordan)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:22 PM
1
so basically if this sabella stays dont expect any changes he is a one track mind and thats his limit unfortunately he was lucky and got to the final but with our worst WC performance



cruz123
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:21 PM
0
more from ole

Claudio Gugnali collaborator Sabella believes it best to retain the coaching staff of the national team, although he admitted that Pachorra yet talked with them. "Not a word, it will be time when Alejandro".


Gugnali Claudio confesses that it feels weird at home. After more than thirty days in Brazil and surrounded by the same people, confesses that strange. "No better place in my home with my children, but that was the first impression when I got up. This group of guys made us feel very good, very helpful, very integrated," Sabella told the assistant goes to Bebe 10 , ESPN 107.9. "I feel sad because we were very close, deserved to win the final. It was a typical game end, that makes the first goal wins and the first clear situations had us unfortunately not we specify. And today we are runners, you wanted is not little, but not be champion, "he said.

Upon arrival in the country and the party with the team on the campus of Ezeiza, the employee confessed that they have not yet talked about the chance to continue to lead the Argentine team. "The continuity would be very good, but through Alexander.'s Useful, is healthy, is intact. Alike are decisions that take Alexander and the people who run the Argentine football.'re Making them," he said and ruled out the chance of separating Sabella to continue in the selection. And thanked banking players when he spoke of the chance to leave after the World Cup. "We have not spoken, but a single word. Alejandro The talk at the time. Players Lo is one of the most beautiful gifts we have received," he said.

In addition to praising the DT, Gugnali confessed that never listen or criticism or praise outside the gates of the concentration in Cidade do Galo. "Not queiro we hurt anyone, but we were never earrings out, we had no time., We were in a bubble, full of responsabilildad. With the idea of ​​occupying the time sharing with the boys activities, talks football, videos, tournaments do not allow which we invade the bubble, "he said.

To close, re-emphasized the relationship that ensued with players. "I have no doubt of mutual affection. If Augusto Fernandez, who did not play a minute comes and thanks you for the deal, it means that evil did not do things. Was there love each other unconditionally, wanting to do what's best for the group. And we never made ​​us feel alien. technicians when we make decisions a little you isolate yourself unintentionally, but
here there was not a single sign of disagreement, all well disposed to work.'s micro wax a party round. was lived beautiful things. "


cruz123
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:17 PM
0
Sabella has not decided yet ok, here's below is translation from ole newspaper and plus TATa does not want Argentina job

Sabella returned home in La Plata and was welcomed as a hero by neighbors. The coach of the team did not rule out the possibility of continuing in office, but explained: "This is an extraordinary work, but also a great responsibility."


Alejandro Sabella is again at home. Having achieved the global runner in Brazil national team coach returned to his home in the locality of Toulouse, La Plata, where he was greeted as a hero by neighbors.

"Ale: people like you leave us much more than sports stars ... You're the pride of a team with heart," reads the parade that put his friends. Sabella is where I wanted. "I wanted to be home with my family, who are always accompany and are difficult times," said the coach, who avoided going into details about their future: "I want to see if I am able to give 100%. This extraordinary work, a great honor, but also a great responsibility. yet decided anything. I have to think and relax. thinking I'm slow. "

The intention of the president of the AFA, Julio Humberto Grondona, and those who make up the committee is that Sabella Teams follow in the bank, so they will try to convince despite the statements of his representative before the final with Germany announced that Pachorra would not continue after the World Cup.

The vice of the Paraguayan Association Martino said he will not run again because the Guarani believed "to be the coach of the Argentina". All while continuing Sabella defined post World ...


Gerardo Martino is a name that sounds like a candidate to lead the team in the World post cycle if Alejandro Sabella finally decided to leave. Pachorra said he will take a break, discuss the issue calmly and communicate it to the leaders, but his representative Eugenio Lopez had discarded its continuity in a previous note to the final with Germany at the Maracana.

The news came from Paraguay, more precisely from the mouth of Federico Acosta, who is vice president of the Association and are looking for a coach after failure in qualifying. In a note to the Guarani Radio AM 730 asked about the possible return of Tata, who directed him in the 2010 World Cup and brought it to the final of the Copa America in 2011, but were rejected for one reason: "It is candidate because I think it makes a commitment, from what I read in the newspapers, to take on Argentina national team. "

Acosta, good relationship with Martino, the itching stopped. Technical rests in Rosario with his family after the tough season with Barcelona, ​​which won the Supercopa as only title and fell in the Champions League semi. His last public appearance was to accompany Pep Guardiola in a talk he gave last month at Luna Park. Now they spoke from Paraguay

Carlos Bilardo believe the AFA should propose to Sabela renewal: "He managed to get into people and gets along well with jugadres". Still, warns that failure to follow "to be understood." Also talked about his future and he defended the actions of Messi.


After the World Cup final and the arrival of the country team, the sights are set for the future and one of the main issues to be addressed will be the continuation of Alejandro Sabella. The players have already expressed their desire to continue in office Pachorra and Carlos Salvador Bilardo, in the same sense, also addressed the issue. "It's a decision you have to take Sabella. If he proposes the AFA renew is fine because he gets along with the players, know, know how it is," he said on the radio program A Good Time (The Network). Though Doctor did not dare to anticipate a possible decision by Sabella, believes there is a possibility that does not leave the place as the representative had said former coach of Estudiantes. "You have to understand.'ll Know what steps to follow.'s Hard to get into the life of a person and tell them what to do, but I know him and I know he's comfortable," he said .. He further stressed their work and how cheered in Ezeiza: "He managed to get into people I shouted that followed, was heard from inside the micro now decides it..." Then in the personal, about his future as a director of National Team, said: " That I have to talk to Mr Grondona and see what it does. I got tired a little.'s bravo be dale and dale. Till when? And always arguing, never a little hand in favor. Same I no longer fight as before. To me what counts are the facts. " He added: "I did not think yet whether or not I still do think many times what I want to do with my life.". Finally, did not escape the questions about the Argentine action 10 but chose not to contrast with Maradona. "One of Messi always expected more, but had very good games.'s Very hard to compare. I say both are players who excelled in his time", he added


cruz123
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:14 PM
0
Sabella has not decided yet ok, here's below is translation from ole newspaper and plus TATa does not want Argentina job

Sabella returned home in La Plata and was welcomed as a hero by neighbors. The coach of the team did not rule out the possibility of continuing in office, but explained: "This is an extraordinary work, but also a great responsibility."


Alejandro Sabella is again at home. Having achieved the global runner in Brazil national team coach returned to his home in the locality of Toulouse, La Plata, where he was greeted as a hero by neighbors.

"Ale: people like you leave us much more than sports stars ... You're the pride of a team with heart," reads the parade that put his friends. Sabella is where I wanted. "I wanted to be home with my family, who are always accompany and are difficult times," said the coach, who avoided going into details about their future: "I want to see if I am able to give 100%. This extraordinary work, a great honor, but also a great responsibility. yet decided anything. I have to think and relax. thinking I'm slow. "

The intention of the president of the AFA, Julio Humberto Grondona, and those who make up the committee is that Sabella Teams follow in the bank, so they will try to convince despite the statements of his representative before the final with Germany announced that Pachorra would not continue after the World Cup.

The vice of the Paraguayan Association Martino said he will not run again because the Guarani believed "to be the coach of the Argentina". All while continuing Sabella defined post World ...


Gerardo Martino is a name that sounds like a candidate to lead the team in the World post cycle if Alejandro Sabella finally decided to leave. Pachorra said he will take a break, discuss the issue calmly and communicate it to the leaders, but his representative Eugenio Lopez had discarded its continuity in a previous note to the final with Germany at the Maracana.

The news came from Paraguay, more precisely from the mouth of Federico Acosta, who is vice president of the Association and are looking for a coach after failure in qualifying. In a note to the Guarani Radio AM 730 asked about the possible return of Tata, who directed him in the 2010 World Cup and brought it to the final of the Copa America in 2011, but were rejected for one reason: "It is candidate because I think it makes a commitment, from what I read in the newspapers, to take on Argentina national team. "

Acosta, good relationship with Martino, the itching stopped. Technical rests in Rosario with his family after the tough season with Barcelona, ​​which won the Supercopa as only title and fell in the Champions League semi. His last public appearance was to accompany Pep Guardiola in a talk he gave last month at Luna Park. Now they spoke from Paraguay

Carlos Bilardo believe the AFA should propose to Sabela renewal: "He managed to get into people and gets along well with jugadres". Still, warns that failure to follow "to be understood." Also talked about his future and he defended the actions of Messi.


After the World Cup final and the arrival of the country team, the sights are set for the future and one of the main issues to be addressed will be the continuation of Alejandro Sabella. The players have already expressed their desire to continue in office Pachorra and Carlos Salvador Bilardo, in the same sense, also addressed the issue. "It's a decision you have to take Sabella. If he proposes the AFA renew is fine because he gets along with the players, know, know how it is," he said on the radio program A Good Time (The Network). Though Doctor did not dare to anticipate a possible decision by Sabella, believes there is a possibility that does not leave the place as the representative had said former coach of Estudiantes. "You have to understand.'ll Know what steps to follow.'s Hard to get into the life of a person and tell them what to do, but I know him and I know he's comfortable," he said .. He further stressed their work and how cheered in Ezeiza: "He managed to get into people I shouted that followed, was heard from inside the micro now decides it..." Then in the personal, about his future as a director of National Team, said: " That I have to talk to Mr Grondona and see what it does. I got tired a little.'s bravo be dale and dale. Till when? And always arguing, never a little hand in favor. Same I no longer fight as before. To me what counts are the facts. " He added: "I did not think yet whether or not I still do think many times what I want to do with my life.". Finally, did not escape the questions about the Argentine action 10 but chose not to contrast with Maradona. "One of Messi always expected more, but had very good games.'s Very hard to compare. I say both are players who excelled in his time", he added.



xtreme
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:13 PM
0
I would love Sabella to stay as we simply don't have a better replacement other than Diego Simeone which he's not ready to take over the NT. So, sticking to Sabella is the best option for now, and hey, the man took us to the world cup final after 24 years. Hope he would change a little about his system, defensively, he's perfect but we need a little change attacking wise.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:59 PM
0
if he stays, hopes he makes changes, not hang on too gago, campa, etc

and try more attacking


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:55 PM
0
GAB: its strange as in all the interviews so far nothing has been said about lav being injured or why he came off, it may be true he was injured but we would think some one would have either informed us that was the case or actually asked some one by now as its turned the match for us.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:52 PM
0
San Isidro: good sir where did you hear that from?
as you can read below i dont want him to stay and ive posted my thoughts why but if he does as always he will have my 100% support.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:50 PM
0
Batigol9: so true and bati is one of the all time greats and one of my fav players of all time with messi, maradona and zanetti.


GAB
(Australia)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:50 PM
0
I was watching the WC final post match commentary and they reported that Lavezzi was injured and is the reason why he got subbed. This makes sense because Lavezzi was playing the game of his tournament at the time and is what ultimately cost us because we reverted to a 4-3-3 in the 2nd half and the German midfield (and fitness) was just too strong in the end.

Anyway, whoever takes over as coach will hopefully learn a lot from this World Cup and realise the balance required in not only the starting 11 but the bench. Very much doubt Simeone will take over (as much as I would love him too as he is my first preference) because his club coaching status is now starting to excel and he would not want to jeopardise that.

We have great up and coming young talent to be tried out in the NT so the future looks good.

Vamos!!!


San Isidro
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:34 PM
0
Mundo family
Word is out that Sabella will stay on at least through the Copa America.
I think this is great news, since as a coach all you can do is put your players in an opportunity to win. Maybe he will stay through to the next World Cup also, or maybe Simeone will be ready to take the helm then.

It is not Sabella's fault that Higuain Messi and Palacio failed to convert on 5 clear chances in the final.


Batigol9
(Lebanon)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:26 PM
1
batigol is one of the best strikers in history and defintely the best one in Argentina along with kempes,the only guy who came close to him in the last 20 years was hernan crespo


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:15 PM
0
thanks ddr1123, we saw the 2 hig with the 1v1 he totally cocked up but the sublime finish (even if it was just offside) was still a fantastic finish.

its funny as bati was the same on 1v1 but any thing from 12 to 30 yards was in his range as his power was amazing as he had no back lift and just struck the ball with such power and accruarcy, bati had such power he also took free kicks add to it bati was also fantastic in the air.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:15 PM
0
we will never see a batigol

no 9 strikers a fading out now, as tactics and football moves on

germany have no true no9
all no9 in wc failed

falcao is last true number 9 in the world


ddr1123
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:58 PM
1
@pablo.d totally agree on assessment of Pipita. He can score amazing goals and many of them, but when he is 1:1 with a GK, he misses 9 out of 10. This has happened in Real, Napoli and with national team.

You sum it up perfectly, if he has to think, you can guarantee he will miss. And if it is 1:1, you can bet your house on the miss. He will panic.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:41 PM
0
honestly there was only one team between argentina and the world cup and that team was germany.. any other team couldnot have stopped us to the road to the final... Holland who looked unstoppable all tournament long looked so average against us... I really really wanted brasil or france to knockout germany...but alas!!


yf
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:40 PM
0
Thank you Ziggy,
Such an awesome and thorough recap. Ultimately what I wanted to write in my AFA experience testomonial and congratulations letter. I think you literally said it all. What a intense memorable ride it was.
Arriba Argentina Siempre


Maximus
(Mauritius)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:36 PM
0
totally agree batigol. the players at least shouldn't have been carried away with that song. they didn't console & hanshake with the dutch too.

we could've avoided these, which finally came back to bite.


iman
(Iran)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:35 PM
0
Hello,gabo,thanks,very very beautiful write up,I think if argentina was in another group such A or ,We were not in the final,for reaching to final we had easy way,if germany or holland were instead of Bosnia by wrong sabella arrangement we lost this world cup even in group stage like SPAIN,ITALY,ENGLAND


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:29 PM
0
that 4-0 loss to germany gave a name a very bad name to argetina defense.. and AFA got us Sabella who was an ultra defensive coach and his tactics nearly pulled it off.. But his player selections , the people who he counted on the most turned out to be the biggest disappointment. We have to return to our old school play with just one striker that should be messi.. we need a mixture of defensive and attacking midfield to feed messi... Messi is the best finisher in the world and no way he would have panicked liked higuain and palacio did..


Whizzard28
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:19 PM
0
Ziggy stop with the excuses for the fab 4
Messi should notbe a major part of the Albiceleste
Icardi Lamela Ocampos Iturbe Mustachio


Batigol9
(Lebanon)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:12 PM
1
very nice article,i discussed the game with many observers some of who were Argentina fans and other who weren't.They all agreed that Argentina had the better chances during the game and that they were unlucky not to convert.It kinda reminds me of Holland in 2010 final.Germany had a half chance and scored and we had two clear chances and didn't. Messi said it on Monday that he was hurt by the loss considering the chances that they had wasted.I would say Messi's chance was not easy to score ,but those of Higuain and Palacio were a crime not to score them.It just wasn't meant to be.One last note,when i saw the video of the Argentina players bashing Brazil and Pele in the dressing room with the now famous song,I honestly didn't like it.I felt that Karma is gonna revert on them and not win the final.They also sang the song again after their semi final win.I mean was that necessary doing this in Brazil itself...