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Posted by Roy Nemer (Roy Nemer) Monday, July 14, 2014 Go To Comments

Congratulations to this team

A real, sincere congratulations to this Argentina team. Prior to the tournament, we all thought ROMERO would let in goals left and right, ROJO would be a disaster and that we would need to outscore our opponents 5-4 to win matches. But how wrong were we.

The loss hurts, I won't lie. But in a way, I thought it would hurt more. I'm extremely proud of this team, it's difficult to ask more. I haven't seen this never say die attitude from our players since 1990. We went 120 minutes against Switzerland, 120 minutes against Netherlands and 120 minutes against Germany. All while Germany played 45 minutes against Brazil and had an extra day off.

Despite all of that, we still had chances to win it. Gonzalo HIGUAIN and Rodrigo PALACIO missed the easiest chances any player can get at a final of a World Cup.

Congratulations are in order for Germany. A team or rather a federation, that has been building towards this since 2000.

I couldn't have asked more from any of our defenders, midfielders or MESSI. ROMERO played like he was steroids the whole tournament. GARAY played like a veteran, ROJO was arguably the best left back in the tournament, ZABALETA was a warrior and DEMICHELIS was a pleasant surprise.

BIGLIA took over from GAGO and played well, while PEREZ had a very good tournament considering he hadn't played with the team before and his first real match was against Belgium.

MASCHERANO, well, he's MASCHERANO. Absolutely adore him. Gave it 300% every match. Played out of his mind.

MESSI gave it his all, literally everything. But when HIGUAIN, PALACIO and AGUERO didn't show up, he was playing alone all tournament long. And with DI MARIA out injured, it only made it more difficult. He's slowly growing into that playmaking role and I think that's where he will ultimately end up playing for Argentina.

This is a great team and we have to keep building towards the Copa America next year. MUSACCHIO, FAZIO, LAMELA, ITURBE and ICARDI are a few players who can probably make the team next year. If not for the Copa America, likely for the next World Cup.

I'd love for SABELLA to stay, but that looks unlikely. MESSI has already stated he would like for him to keep being the coach and I think with him staying, this team can only get better.

The future isn't all doom and gloom.




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argentine
(Ghana)
Posted on 7/18/2014 at 11:15 AM
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am very proud to be Argentine fan,it really hurts to hand over the trophy to the Manchaft,but lets prepare fully for the copa america.Heguine and others didnt show at all.


day
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 2:07 PM
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yes i agree am very proud to support argentina, always have and always will!!!! And these guys did their best even though they weren't in great form some of them.
Love u argentina always!!!!


maya
(India)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 10:16 AM
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Yeah Lavezzi had a great game in the final and his substitution changed a lot. But by seeing how Lavezzi behaved with the assistant staff, I really lost all the respect to Lavezzi. Those people like that staff also have the same dream like millions of Argentina fans like us. But just being a player of Argentina, how can Lavezzi behave in such an insane way. Don't other players also get infected by these kind of things? We win or lose that's different. But the manager should be the ultimate. Not Messi or Maradona or Lavezzi. The players should behave as players with Manager. The Manager can make some stupid substitution and lose badly. The players can fight for that. That is reasonable. But if the Manager and other staffs are afraid of players and don't have the freedom, how they can work peacefully? What that assistant staff would be thinking at that time? What the hell is happening. I am really speechless with Lavezzi attitute. Can anyone swear German players can behave like that with their coach or other technical staffs. Low is the number one in German team. Everyone comes next. Such is the status he is commanding there. When Lavezzi watered Sabella, I thought its for fun. But it now seems its more than fun. I really feel for Sabella now. Laavezzi should not play for our team hereafter. It sounds harsh. But we should have a team where young players like Iturbe and newer generation should start respecting our Manager. Not mis-behaving like Lavezzi. If Messi also feels himself more than Manager, he must be omitted too. The team comes first and if the Manager is really dedicated like Sabella, even if we win or lose thats not bad. But he should be the number one. Hope our next one will have the command like Beckenbauer.


hugo8
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 9:01 AM
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Cant believe all the chances we missed. Did the brazilian witch dictor put a curse on us or something. Palacio miss really made me mad all this tippy tap garbage at least his rhe targer. Higuian again paid, what 90,000 a week and cant shoot between the posts. Aguero is nothing and did nothing lavezzi was playing well.

It was Argwntinas they threw it away.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 8:08 AM
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The squad did everything and hats off to the whole team including Sabella, who solved our chronic problem.

I was extremely heart when Gotze scored, where I had the feeling we were able to lift the trophy and I prayed for us to win it, but that what happens when waste the chance you get in the early shots and play on the last minutes.

All I can say, the team was well shielded, but the guns were out of bullets.

VAMOS ARGENTINA


claudiolopez77
(Kenya)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 7:44 AM
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If our attaching players were any good we could've taught Germany a lesson. We had several breaks where Germany's defense was stretch on the counter. And if wehad scored just one the a serving and a third was gonna go in cuz they would've ppressed forward and left a lot of gaps in the back.

Anyway this would have only happened if our strikers were any good. Messi left his scoring boots in Barcelona, Higuain left his in Naples, Aguero left his in Manchester and if course Palacio did leave his scoring boots in Milan. You never get those kind of chances in a WC final and miss em. And during the entire tournament I kept on saying if you don't use your chances you'll get punished and it happened in the final.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 7:39 AM
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We can win at russia, why not.....???? If germany can beat brazil at brazil like that home advsntage is not that a big part.... If any latin american nation which can xhallenge for de WC in near future it will be argentina only, colombia or chile is not gonna win it, brazil has a mountain to climb, definitely with quality history n firepower we are de only 1.... The main reason for european domination is tgeir professionalism, expensive top class youth academies, de exposure given thru their leagues etc... They r making de players in de way they want from younger ages with high level guidance n physical training with most modern technologies n equipments... Whereas we playing with natural born players.... If spain or german or france get iturbe at an age of 12, he wud be a ballon dor nominee by now... We need to rise to de situation or else will lose de complete control....


Notoraj
(Finland)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 7:18 AM
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Higauin cud have convert that goal..we r up 1-0..then Messi...2-0.. palaccio 3-0 end result cud be anything between 4-2 or 4-1 what a revenge it cud be!!


niklucky02
(India)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 6:27 AM
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Guys ... as much as I respect Sabella for taking us to the finals, I don't think he has command in the dressing room. May be its just my assumption but Aguero's substitution might be Messi's idea and not Sabella's. We all know Aguero is Messi's friend and never seen Sabella taking out Lavezzi before 60-75 mins.
Again it can be utter bullshit but you never know and seeing how Lavezzi behaves with the staff, I won't be surprised.


Budhasmilez
(India)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 5:09 AM
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@ Roy, Elpipita and some of you guys...your observations are indeed like water in the desert.

I was completely gutted after the match. Skipped office yesterday. Reading some of the good points that you guys write makes me feel better.

By the way I have started liking & respecting Mourinho...:)


niklucky02
(India)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:55 AM
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Source:Goal.com

Article by our very own Seba


All of the major nations will have to make changes between now and the next World Cup, and Goal looks at how they could line up in Russia
Another World Cup is over and the four-year wait begins to see the best national teams from all over the planet scrap it out again in Russia.

The tournament in Brazil was a veritable feast of football, with stars from across the globe showcasing their brilliance, but time catches up on everyone.

So, who will be the next generation of stars to replace the current crop in four years' time? Goal looks at the players who may be setting the world alight in 2018.



By Sebastian Garcia

After reaching the final in 2014 and restoring some pride on the biggest stage, Argentina will be facing a period of transition. Coach Alejandro Sabella is certain to leave his post, though the change should mostly be isolated to matters off the pitch.

The current Argentina team have an interesting mix of youth of and experience and many players still have a number of years of good service ahead of them. It's hard to say how many Ballons d'Or Lionel Messi will have won by 2018, but it's easy to picture him leading his nation in Russia.

The supporting cast will be getting old, but are likely to stick around, though the emergence of Inter's Mauro Icardi will be too much for Gonzalo Higuain, depending on how the young troublemaker gels with the rest of the team. There are shades of a Carlos Tevez-esque saga, though Icardi is far less popular among fans and media.

Erik Lamela should turn things around and become a regular, while Juan Manuel Iturbe will be pushing either the Tottenham winger or Angel Di Maria for a place in the side.

In defence, Mateo Musacchio should be at the top of his game, if his development thus far continues at his current trajectory and Sergio Romero will keep goal for his third straight World Cup. The big question mark is Javier Mascherano, who'll be 34, but may retain his place due to his charasmatic leadership and versatility.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 4:43 AM
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I agree,sabaella has very good idea on how to defend, but not much in how to score.... Just opposite to maradona, he has so much ideas on attacking part but poor at defensive aspect.... Counter attacking can only be used as a 2nd option for a team like us, against most of de teams we hav to create chances by constructive football, we are argentina, not any underdogs....


tevezisgod
(Israel)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 3:59 AM
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It's not about the amount of talent. In 1994 and 2002 we had what I believe to be the two most talented teams in the history of international football, and still failed miserably. Argentina will always have the ability to produce world class players, it's just plain statistics. The only question is - will we have the right manager to choose the right system and the right players for it. I liked what Sabella did. I have my criticisms, to be sure (just look at my nickname), but he did good. I wouldn't mind him staying another 4 years.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 3:41 AM
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arg2014:as most in here will know I was the same as you and also was also concerned at the striking backups as I said below pre w/c
"do you really think pal and lav will come on to win us a game" and as we know it came to bite us in the ass.
the saying "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link" applies to football as well and any one on the bench should be considered as a potential starter at any time and they are not just their to warm a bench hence the foolishness at taking both pal and lev who at n/t level struggle to hit a barn door and keeping all our strikers as shorty's.

how many goals did we score from corners?(we had 13 in one game) ans= nil.
I really hope the likes of icardi get a chance to prove their worth.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 3:21 AM
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Welcome back elpipita......Now it's time to tell everybody here is that Gago is made of glass....just kidding.

My major argument here before WC was about striker selection and I didn't want to see both Palacio/Lavezzi together leaving out Icardi and Iturbe especially when Lamela was excluded. I had fear about scoring in the dying minutes by our subs....I just knew it, actually I visualized it as something would happen for sure....."we needed goal scorers" was my argument on here.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 3:13 AM
1
Well I wanted to wait a day or 2 before posting to allow people to calm down abit and move over the shock of it all.
Personally I've been remarkably calm after the final whistle was blown and Germany took over the world. At first I thought I was in shock and my brain wasn't processing the loss but no the reality is I am just too damn proud of this team to be too upset!!

Many people are making this WC out to be Argentina's best and only chance of glory and that the coming years will only be doom and gloom but I see it very differently.
To me this WC was simply Argentina's FIRST crack at the big title. "first crack you say? what about all the failed attempts since 1990"? some of you are wondering right now, well I believe that when Maradona left the NT he took something very valuable with him namely the fighting spirit/winning mentality and it took a long 24 yrs for the team to get that back and now that they have the sky is the limit.

Some of you have cited Tim Vickery's article about how Argentina's pool of talent is drying up and how the future is looking bleak. Well Vickery's focus on Brazilian football all these years has clearly blinded him from all that goes around him whether be it in Argentina or south america in general.
It wasn't our stars (Higuain, or kun or Dimaria or even Messi) that really stood out in this world cup, it was Rojo, Romero, Garay, Biglia and Enzo, the unsung heroes that no one knew or cared to know anything about.
Vickery said that Argentina's recent youth teams have been horrible and he's right ofcourse and he cited that as a cause for concern when it comes to the albicelestes' future but he failed to note that there has always been a big discrepancy between youth success and how that translates to senior team success.
Argentina won the 95, 97 and 01 additions of the youth world cup yet those generations failed to perform on the world stage despite of their abundant talent. Even the stars of the 2005 and 2007 winning teams like kun, Dimaria, Gago, Banega and to a much lesser extent messi failed to perform to their full potential yet it was the lesser celebrated players from those teams like Biglia (2005) and Romero (2007) not to mention the likes of Enzo and Rojo who didn't even take part of the youth setup that really shone on the world's stage.

This world cup has shown us that if and when the so called superstars of the team fail you the team's pragmatic setup can bail you out.
And it is the manager that determines and shapes such a setup.
Now that I've had time to think about it, the Argentina that played in the KO stages of the world cup and Atletico Madrid are remarkably similar in their tenacity, mentality and defensive solidarity. And while I pray to go that Sabella stays if he doesn't then Simione would be the perfect replacement not only because of his success with Atletico but rather how he achieved that success.
If Simione does indeed inherit his NT he'd be inheriting a team that is more or less shaped in his own image and with the talents that Argentina has to offer, talent that Atletico can never provide, Simione could take this team to the next level.

I know some of you are depressed right now and want to put football out of your minds for the time being and that's understandable.
To me though I've never been more excited about Argentine football as I am right now.
I want to see what our boys will do with their new found experience, I want to see how future talents like Iturbe, Lamela, Icardi, Zucculini, Rojo, Musacchio, Lisandro Lopez, Peruzzi, Ocampos, Correa, Mino etc....will perform in the biggest stage and I want to know if whoever replaces Sabella will keep in mind the importance of a unified, pragmatic system in shaping champion teams.

Cheer up all, the future is looking bright from where I'm standing.






baker
(India)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 2:57 AM
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Who ever new coach is ....
1:We have to bring variation in out attacking style.
Now we are solely depending on counter attack that too depends on dimaria and messi.

2: Build for 2018 , bring youths for offense department.

3:Most importantly built a team who can handle pressure , look at 23 year old gotze handled the ball and made a winning strike . you need winning attitude to do that.


Trini Pupi
(Trinidad And Tobago)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 1:58 AM
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Guys i must admit it seems to me that many MANY PEOPLE really hated Argentina and every single game wanted us to lose. I mean it was almost disgusting....
My job at proving them all wrong with each game is only superceeded by the fact we didn't win the cup.
In Trinidad people here reallllly have picked on this team from day one (BRAZIL AND ENGLAND FANS mostly here and now bandwagon german fans)...they don't acknowledge what was done at all. It hurts being an Argentina fan in a country like this but i am super proud and defiant...!


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 12:58 AM
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Does anyone have a link for Ray Hudson's commentary on the final game? Please share.
I watched the game on CBC to that British bias commentator who screamed like maniac when Gotze crap scored that goal.

Please share with us some links about finale feedback, opinions and interviews.


yf
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 12:17 AM
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@marshallus,
You might have an interesting point. For Palacio's potential eventual peace of mind, I hope your right. Although I thought Aguero had some chances in first group game or two, and it was clear he wasn't coming through.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/15/2014 at 12:00 AM
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Dinucci, it is the British media that is behind this, jose mourinho said perfectly when he talked about how messi sacrificed for the good of the team, but the English will continuo to hate on messi becouse the best in the world doesn't play in their league and he is Argentinian, I am sure if messi would have played epl team they would have praised him


marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:50 PM
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Guys I notice Palacio has been heavily criticised for not finishing key occasions in the semifinal and final. I think the dude is a set-up player with organizational skills and not a finisher. He is physically weak to finish. It is not his blame, but the coach's. Sabella should have reserved the striking spot for Higuain or Aguero, one attacking spot for Lavezzi, Palacio or Alvarez, given Messi owns one attacking spot. He instead mixed it up and screwed the final game somewhat. Although I think he could have noticed this in the semi-final game already.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:45 PM
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Palacio has to be the worst striker argentina has ever taken to a world cup... such a poor finishing skills.. another tevez good for club Pathetic for country.!!Ageuro might not have done nothing but comapared to higuain and palacio he got zero chances to score.. Higuain's misses always made me worry about not in my dreams i had ever thought he would miss a sitter in the final of a world cup!! No wonder madrid sold him .SMH


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:28 PM
1
This site really is an escape from all the bullshit people are saying. In a way Messi did deserve the player of the tournament award. He scored 4 goals and one assist in 7 games. But what people havent taken in to account is that messi did all this while being marked by 3 players everytime he recieved the ball. No other player was marked that much, not james, not müller.


marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:28 PM
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@Sulav & Pablo, yes I noticed that lack of flexibility in relation to player consideration in Sabella. Is it related to ego associated with some players or what, I don't understand ? It may seem to be an Argentina thing as Bielsa in 2002 World Cup preferred to play out of form Ortega and Batistuta ahead of Riquelme or Crespo.
I also think this attitude needs to change. Chose and make 23 reliable players is what we need.


marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:23 PM
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@guled, the more we invest on having renowned players in the top leagues, the more reliant we are on them and the more complacent the team becomes. It creates a false sense of security. We need Argentina performers for NT not the Argentina renowned in Europe. I didn't imagine Higuain could suck that way at the World Cup (even if he wasn't in top form) after looking admirable in Real Madrid and Napoli. Somehow how much they give in to their clubs conceals how much they can perform for the Argentina shirt.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:23 PM
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i agree pablo.d sabella designed our bench to defend a lead heavily relying on our fav4 to score..which backfired in the final.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:21 PM
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add to it our bench was weak, as ive said before the w/c "do we really believe a pal or lavezzi will be able to come off the bench to win us a game if needed"

i have not changed my mind as sadly it proved true.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:19 PM
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SulaV: yes we do have some talent waiting for development.
this is one of the reasons i want sabella to step down as this is not his strong point as he gave very few the chance to make their claim for this w/c, he had his team in his mind long long ago and nothing was going to change his mind no matter how good they played like an icardi.
when he actually did call up new talent they got little or no time at all to show what they could do.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:14 PM
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if we can develop our bench to be as strong as the starting xi we dont have to worry about injuries eg:germany (very strong bench).. and this is not impossible we have a huge pool of talents and are just waiting for the opportunity!


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:08 PM
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Marshallus, the level of competition is also necessary for player development


marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 11:04 PM
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Guled, a 'better league' does not mean the player is more competent for the NT. It is better to play in a league that trains your skills and keeps you ready to still feature for NT if it is our wish as a fan. France is suitable to that. He could be injured or worn out in Spain or England.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 10:59 PM
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Does ocampos start monaco, I hope he leaves there and comes to better league


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 10:56 PM
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Messi will still be fine in 2018 but as midfielder not forward, and maria will still be good, we are blessed with talent but we need good coach to take advantage of it


marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 10:30 PM
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You guys are talking about future World Cup players.
You left out Pastore. He didn't suit Sabella, but that does not mean he does not suit the NT. He dribbled past all of Chelsea defence from the corner-kick area and scored. How we needed such play in the knock-out stages of the recent World Cup. And then he is only 25.


marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 10:24 PM
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Congrats to team !

I can't stop thinking about Garay and Romero. Even Rojo ...

How humble and hardworking and productive these players were. The impression has been emotional ...


San Isidro
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 10:21 PM
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@kingmessi
You are correct about the next generation. They need to be featured, not the guys that just played including Messi. I am not saying some of these players (messi dimaria) won't be included in the plans going forward, but they CAN NOT be the centerpiece. They have already had multiple chances as the centerpiece.
For those that disagree, just ask Spain about their World Cup when they held on to names, not players. They returned 17 of the previous WC and we all know what happened.
Guys like Peruzzi, Ocampos, Rojo, Icardi, Iturbe, Correa, Mussachio, are the immediate future. Imagine a front line of Iturbe Icardi and Ocampos starting for us.
We are fortunate to have this. Look at Brazil and what they have..nothing!

Please don't hold on to the past...it will lead to disappointment.
Messi 3 WC already
Dimaria 2 WC
Mascherano 3 WC
Demichelis 2 WC
Higuain 2 WC

We have players that will perform at a great level and we need to integrate them. We were already the oldest team in the tournament...please everyone look forward


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 10:08 PM
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its interesting as i do remember the talk at the time but i got the impression he was saying that because sabella had the job as managers usually do not speak about another job while the currant manager is in charge.
as they say i time will tell, i live in hope he will be offered and accept it.


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:58 PM
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@pablo.d, Few months back i read somewhere..

Reporter asked Simeone about being coach of Argentina. That time he said "i wish to coach Argentina one day. But i need more experience for that...etc...etc "

What i thought after reading that..he will not come in near future...!


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:58 PM
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Pablo.d, it is speculation, there is no quote


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:56 PM
1
The thing I am surprised is joe mourinho is fiercely defending messi and talking about messi sacrificing for the team which is true, but I am disappointed in maradona when his country man is down and attacked all corners(British media, madrid media) instead of defending him, he showed his true color, maradona is happy that argentina didn't win the cup, he was worried that messi will surpress him, I have always respected maradona and defended him but he let us down,it is all about him, he is hating on messi and not supporting him, the myth that maradona singlehandely won the World Cup is bull shit, he was failure at Barcelona where there were other stars and he stayed there for years, also napoli had a lot good Italian players, and argentina had good players around him and the competition in the World Cup wasn't like this also argentina were lucky that year (hand goal) and we only saw the highlight, today we watch every game, 24/7 tv didn't exist that time,for me Lionel messi is the best ever


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:46 PM
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guled: sir i keep reading on here simoene wont accept it, does any one have any quotes saying he wont or will if asked?


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:45 PM
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"Imagine seeing them at tottenham"!!
oooaaaarrrrrrr yes please :)


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:43 PM
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I think we are loaded with talent and it is great at least we lived to our reputation as great footballing nation by reaching the final, but we don't know who will be the coach and that is very important, sabella is good but he said he won't be there,i am not confident in martino, I don't think he will add any thing(I could be wrong) let us hope sabella stays so far he us the best for the job, simoene won't accept it but with him we can win any thing with talent we have


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:43 PM
1
@el principe Lamela and Rojo are friends I saw a post on twitter where Lamela congrats Rojo Imagine seeing them at tottenham!!


vimal
(Malaysia)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:24 PM
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kudos argentina!! well surely be back stronger next copa


kingmessi
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 9:12 PM
1
Our future stars along with messi and di maria in 2018

Ruben botta
Iturbe
Lamela
Icardi
Musachhio
Marcos Rojo
Bruno zuculini
Rodrigo De Paul
Ángel Correa


yf
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 8:37 PM
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Last week after i settled down after the triumphant & euphoric relief of indescribable tension and suffering i experienced for 120 minutes and penalty kicks V. Netherlands, I intended to write my first post here to congratulate Sabella and the players and us as fans on this blog and beyond, who often without choice, attach so much of our emotional selves to the play and outcomes of The Albiceleste. Unless you are in it people have no idea, or like my partner she supports me and accepts as much as she can but is still in disbelief to the extent it affects me.
Anway i held off from writing such congratulations cuz i thought "why not wait till after the final?"-we might win then and i would be jinxing our chances of victory or assuming we had already risen to the top. So i waited to write after the final, while i continued to read all of your posts as i have done leading up to the cup somewhat but on a daily basis more than once during the WC. In the meantime there was a blog topic about "86 and the first world cup memories" that made me have the urge to post before and after yesterdays heart breaking game i had to chime in on a few things.
But in any case i have waited now about 24+ hours for the paralyzing pain and grief( yes grief) to decrease and thank god it has even though not by much but enough to regain my desire to communicate, eat, and get back to work and my other life. So now i finally want to Congratulate Sabella( and all his staff), Masche, Messi, Lavezzi, Romero,Di Maria, Garay, Demi, Perez, Rojo, Biglia, Zaba, Fernandez, Basante, Rodriguez Campagnaro, and yes of course even Palacio, Aguero, and Higuain. And to the remaining 4 (i believe) who didn't get on the field: Andujar, Orion, A. fernandes, and Alverez. They were all part of an experience and team that we will in one way or another, for better or worse, never forget.
We all know and have said over and over again who we think let us down yesterday and even every other 6 games there were alway moments were you wanted so and so to do better or give more or not make that mistake. But its a team and its true that you win AND lose together. Bad things can happen to anyone just ask Kroos- i think the german player who headed it back to Higuain and missed the header off the post. It is a game of 6"- messi's missed shot or an 1' the Chilean shot off the post in PK v Brazil. You can go on and on about what if? And yes it does hurt because we didn't earn it by losing away Very makable chances. but its easy to forget all the other makable chances teams missed on us.
I know for me why AFA draws me in so deep. Its every 4 years so its a very long build up unlike regular NBA, NFL or Futbol Club leagues where you can release your emotions every week for 3-6 months. The WC you get 7 (if your very fortunate) chances to consume your team, country pride within 1 month! and then you have to wait another 4years! Since i was 10 years old this was the first time i got 7 games!. That is probably why it hurts so bad.. It is the rarity and infrequency of it that is so special. I follow NFL here and NBA pretty fanatically and i yell, cheer and get excited and hurt but maybe for 1-3 hrs. But i don't get so ecstatic, hurt, cry to the point i am soooo uncomfortable throughout the games, and get depressed for up to a whole week I don't follow club soccer so this my time with the lovely game and my lovely country that i was born in but long have left. Watching Espn, reading espnfc. and reading you guys for the last month has given me a crash course on tactics and players. I thank you for that and thank you all, as you have helped me grieve and process the excitement and the pain.
I intend to follow the blog as much as possible and AFA news, but in the past being in the USA its easy to lose connection with it all after WC, as there is very little coverage. I intend to at least via the intentet or pay per view channels tune in again next year for Copa America and for WC qualifiers. And also will try to keep tabs on our hopefully plentiful Argentinean talent. If anyone wants to suggest Television outlets here in US or websites for South american and european tournament and futbol streaming please do.
Thank you and Vamos Argentina, Siempre te Amo!!!!!!!


mikeone718
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 8:35 PM
0
I don't post very often but do have to give my thanks to everyone here - this site makes the pain more bearable.

Thanks again.


Thang
(Vietnam)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 8:22 PM
0
Thank you all, as always!


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 8:09 PM
0
elprincipe->if it wasnt for this site i wouldnt be able to put myself together.. this site has really rescued me from the loss .. i am not saying that i feel normal and i am flying what i am saying is i can share my pain with my fellow members here.. and atleast i can find peace here.. i dont even have courage to browse any other sport websites as argentina and messi haters are having a party there.. keep posting my friend and you will slowly feel better..


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 7:59 PM
0
el principe: please dont leave this site. Nothing tops we all here support each other after this painful defeat. I like posts so please try to post frequently.....same to all other folks.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 7:55 PM
0
el principe: its been a pleasure conversing with you and i to am old and understand what you are saying, i was 7 when the 78 final happened.
like you i also an a s.a fan and of course Tottenham hotspur in p.o.m.e land, i also read both of their sites but don't post on their sites as well.
glory to the spurs and at least that can make us smile a little.
make sure we hear from you as i do value your opinion as i know other do, you are a poster i thoroughly respect.


Sol
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 7:53 PM
0
Thanks for the positive note.

Its easy to bitch and complain about the missed opportunities, but so much more went right with this team (than I ever imagined could before the WC began). I hope everyone can appreciate that Argentina brings a special element to world football, and we can thank God for bringing us Messi and this group.

Congrats to the Germans for taking another Cup from Argentina's fingertips, but I would never swap the players from their side for ours.





el principe
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 7:39 PM
1
4 years ago here, after our WC exit, I wrote something here saying that the 3 teams that definitely would look scary in 4 years are: Argentina, Spain, and Germany. Why? I saw the age and quality of the players of each team.

Now I see only two teams who will most likely play their "golden generation" in Russia 2018: Argetina and Germany.

Argentina's fantastic four all will be 30-31 4 years from now. Masche is a DM, being 34 shouldn't be a problem for him. He will even break Zanetti's cap record. Biglia, Garay, Romero, and Perez are the same if they can be consistent. Rojo is the youngest. He should get better. Zabaleta will be 33 in 4 years. We need to discover at least a back up here, if not a starting RB.

We should also need to start relying on the young players now. The 2018 is the FINAL era of the Messi's generation. Those players I mentioned above will surely be gone by 2022. If we use the same approach in 2018: taking the older players, then we'd be screwed up in 2022. I hope the likes of Gero Rulli, Lamela, Icardi, Mammana, Tripichio, Mati Sanchez, Ocampos, Lucas Romero, or Iturbe will live up to their expectation.

Germany is another one. When you look at their 23 players, pretty much everyone but Klose, Schweinsteiger, and Lahm will be back in 4 years. Their golden generation has looked superb so far.

Other than these two, I don't see any other countries who will come to the 2018 with their "golden generation":
1. Brasil will have pretty much only Neymar, Oscar, and Thiago Silva or Luis. Others should be all new.
2. Italy have bad youngsters. Their best player was their oldest one, Pirlo.
3. England youngsters look good only among their media.
4. Uruguay is done. Period.
5. Colombia will still look good or even better only if Pekerman stays.
6. Spain will rebuild their squad completely in 4 years. No more Iniesta, Xavi, Fabregas, Mata, Navas, Silva, etc.
7. Holland have a lot of talented youngsters, but too bad their best player, Robben will be 34 in 4 years. RVP and Sneijder are also quite old. Who will lead the attack? Depay?
8. Belgium will have their golden generation, but they still lack of champion mentality.

France is probably the third team after Argentina and Germany who will have their golden generation. The likes of Pogba, Varane, Sissoko, Matuidi will only get better in 4 years. Only Ribery will be too old in 4 years.

Those who will not have their golden generation in 4 years are not necessarily losers, but having golden generations are always a big plus.

I know there are a lot of other factors. 4 years ago, the likes of Rojo, Perez, Biglia had close to 0 caps for us. Now they are vital for us. Now the highly demand position for me is DR. We need a talent here.

Last but not least, I think I am officially "semi retired" here. It has absolutely nothing to do with our loss to Germany. I've been thinking for weeks, but I just feel too tired to have debates or arguments, although I should say it was fun too. I am just too old for that. Well the birth date on my profile is not even real. I am older than that.

Normally I had never been that active in any site/forum/blog that I normally joined. For instance, I am also a big fan for San Antonio Spurs. I visit their forums regularly every day, but I never even post any single post at all up until now. I just enjoy being a reader. I think I want to be more of a reader too here. I will still continue updating once in a while with poll or post something, but maybe I am feeling what Pep Guardiola felt or Sabella feels now. I am just too tired.

You guys are amazing posters. I will enjoy reading all of your posts.


cerberus69
(Malaysia)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 7:09 PM
0
I guess it is becoming a routine for a supporter of the argentinian national team to be upset when world cup happens, but this time around there are glimpse of hope for the future of football in our beloved argentina.

Sabella did bring a new angle of discipline and togetherness to the team.. if there is one hashtag on twitter and facebook that i hate about the game, it's #teamworkVSonemanshow, with the latter reserved for argentina. We may have got Messi in the squad, but this squad has surprised even the most ardent fans for its ability to stick to strategies, and that is a good step forward.

We are able to make it past the quarter final - this is a key step. People said that germany is the most consistent team and it shows. I agree with fellow supporter Kidulthood, we are not used to getting beyond the QF that when it happens we panicked due to intense amount of pressure. That is mental toughness, and considering this is the first time in 24 years that we have reached the final, we did pretty well but we need to keep on improving, for us to be exposed to the top stage.. never give up!

I won't be commenting on what should be done next since I am only one of the many people who have Argentina as our adopted country when it comes to football, and others have provided better insight on this matter. But as a side note, I agree that Aguero is not ready for NT and should not have been included in the WC squad. That man has not lived up to the hype and has not been impactful on the pitch. The only impact was some stupid tackles that almost cost us dearly.

Vamos Albiceleste, and we will always be with you!


xtreme
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:46 PM
0
We all know how Spain/Germany have an advantage for NT due to the top clubs in their respective league consist of a lot of the same players in their National team. Other football power house like Argentina/Brazil don't have the privilege as such. With that said, it's easier said than done to place more importance in domestic league than exporting all of our talents to all the top clubs in the world. You have to understand that footballers are making a living, and there's no way they'd turn down a ton of cash and fame just to play in domestic league where they'd earn a significant less and are much less recognizable globally. I would love to see our players in same league and in the same club while being able to make as much money as they could in Europe because money is a driving force to a lot of players unfortunately....but it's not going to happen, unfortunately.

Many of you said domestic players should be given a nod over the players in the Europe, but hey, didn't we just see what Brazil gone through having that played out?? They have some of the domestic players who had never played in Europe over some of the proven players in playing in Europe, it turned out to be a total disaster, namely Fred/Jo.

I really don't know what the future holds for our beloved national team, but it seems like we just missed our best chance to grab this trophy in decades. It seems as though everything was on our side for us to be crowned champion, the easy route, Brazil being knocked out, all our top players in their prime, golden generation, having a competent coach, being held in south america, I could go on and on, but again, we just fell short in the end. There's always something blocking our way to the trophy, I don't want to believe in fate, but I might have to unfortunately that Argentina might never lift another trophy in my life time. I really can't imagine how many years it will take us to get to final again let alone winning it. WE JUST MISSED IT SO BADLY, very badly. I really hope we don't give up and continue to work hard and keep working hard, as we all know what it took the Germans so many damn years to be crowned champions and how close they were each and every world cup since 1990, and they never gave up. We shall learn from them and move on....


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:42 PM
1
24 hours past...still i cant control myself...!

I don't know what to say....pain or emotions..i don't know..while writing this i cant see the keyboard because my eyes are full of tears still..no lie..only truth.

I thought i will go away from this Mundo...and will never comeback...but my LOVE of Argentina football cant allow me to do..

I know reaching another FINAL is not so easy...it is a difficult task..and you need luck too. Yesterday we had many chances to take that cup to home...but we couldn't..that hurt more.

When Higuain missed..i wrote here...' HIGUAIN,I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THAT'..i thought there HIGUAIN missed the WC for us. And i was true...

Thank you friends for your great words..

I will be here even stronger than before...we again showed the world what Argentine football is....

Thank you team for your real fight,heart...YOU ARE MY HEROES. Really proud of you guys..

Thank You Sabella....for your efforts..you gave us an incredible feeling of seeing Argentina playing WORLD cup FINAL again....thank you....THANK YOU VERY MUCH.


Heroscomehome
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:39 PM
1
GUYS READ Translated from OLE Newspaper Argentina Greeted by FANS and PRIESDANT on return back home:

Messi was grateful to the people who went to receive Ezeiza and appreciated what was done by the team after he had doubts when he left for Brazil. "We will continue working to give more joy to the country," said the flea.


Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, after his words to the team and the country would listen to them, the players, the players in this national pride. And after passing the microphone to Alejandro Sabella, the President gave it to Lionel Messi. "Alejandro and said everything, thank you for the welcome of the people that was spectacular. We would have liked to bring the Cup, enjoy it ... We tried, we gave all, "Flea, still smarting from the fall in the final lamented.

"We gave great joy to the country having reached the end we give her anything without rival. We left with many questions from fans and journalists, and we became stronger than ever, we are very close. Now we will work to give more joy to the country, "promised the Argentinian star, the owner of the Ballon d'Or

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/fuertes_0_1174682749.html

Alejandro Sabella thanked fans for their support: "This team deserves recognition," said the coach, who has yet to confirm its continuity at the helm of the national team. "They did get people excited," he added.


Depues sparring partners and leaders, Alejandro Sabella was the first to look out the front door of the plane carrying the team from Brazil to Ezeiza. Received with applause by a good number of airport employees, Pachorra not dodged the microphone and left his message. "All thanks to the people by how we encouraged, how have followed us We gave 100%," said the coach, who not yet confirmed his continuance in office, something beyond the statements of its representative, surely know in the coming days.


"I hope you're satisfied because this band deserves it, because it gave everything, leave the skin on every play," Sabella, phrase repeated again at the meeting with President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, microphone in hand added in estate of the AFA. He added: "The same appreciation you have with this group of guys is that we all I feel part of the 40 million Argentines When I talked to them I told you, sometimes it seems I'm over cause I'm DT.. but no, I am one. I'm very proud because I left the skin on each share of game. "


"That's what he has done, beyond the post I made, which made people excited. They found a group of boys who would leave the skin on every play. Just as it says that the country is the other team is the other. was talk of the group, speaking of collective constructions, the contribution of the individual to the group and think about giving, not receiving, to create a virtuous circle, one receives the remaining 22.'m one more than me is grateful these guys, thank you very much, "greeted Pachorra, microphone to let the rest of the players also thanked for the affection and sadness for not having brought the Cup


http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Dejaron-piel_0_1174682736.html

Very excited, the president greeted the team in Ezeiza. He had strong words of support for the players and gave him a special hug to Mascherano. He even joked with Higuaín hit by Neuer.


Just stepped on Argentine soil, the players in the team moved to the estate of Ezeiza at walking pace by the amount of people who received them. There's nothing less than expected Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

The president hugged each of the members of the squad, but the most affectionate gesture he had was with Mascherano, who was so excited and hit something. Then he took the microphone and spoke to them: "I always lived up surrounded by soccer fans but I have put the Argentina shirt 365 days a year I felt immense pride as preisdenta by how colors are defended with dignity and pride.." he began. And then he said: "At first I gave 20 bucks for you but today their mouths covered many with claw and passion leaving everything they have.".



"I did not watched any party, nor the Sunday. Called Alejandro But because for me they had won the game, so sorry everyone," he summarized.



The highest authority of the country like chicanear gave Lavezzi by reputation with girls, and also by Higuaín hit with Neuer: "The blow received brother, the truth will be trompearon cute, darling ...".

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/taparon-boca_0_1174682746.html

As are champions! The team returned three great World Cup that just missed the cup Hundreds of fans greeted them at Ezeiza to give a mime to the heart. Will be back ...


Long faces. Not for less. The illusion was great as the importance of achievement. But not charged a penalty and a goal when he went to the second overtime were the cause Argentina to stay with the urge to turn around at the Maracana. Yes, nothing more and nothing less than in Brazil. Messi, Mascherano, Sabella and company felt the blow, the pain showed on the court and also to leave Rio de Janeiro. But after some delays due to fog, the Argentine squad came home and received the care of the fans. A slap to the heart. Neither like a smile or grin was on the face of the players leaving the Radisson hotel, much less to get to the Rio de Janeiro airport and learned that they should wait a while there, because there was a mist in Ezeiza hard which caused the overall delay. After a while, the staff could get on the plane, and from there sent him a wink: "Thanks Argentina" was read on the side, and rather large. After stepping on land, hundreds of fans who waited so early, made ​​them feel the pride argento. Flags, songs, pictures. What a pleasure to see you again ... From the airport the team moved to the grounds of the AFA, where Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner received them and thanked them colors have represented as it should. On the way a cute corridors fans sang the Ricchieri Highway to the utmost. Much appreciation to the effort. It was a victory lap which just missed the Cup

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Volver-casa_0_1174682699.html

While talking Lavezzi, Sabella handed him a bottle of water. "I want to throw water?" He told the DT, which aroused laughter and helped unpack the meeting between the President and the team in Ezeiza.


I did not really feel like talking and it was clear when the Presidenda Cristina Fernández de Kirchner called him to say a few words. "Lavezzi, come to say that you're the sex symbol," said the president and the striker, who was in the farthest row, almost escapes. But, as usual, and with the collaboration of Sabella, the Pocho managed descontracturar a reception which was solemn at least from the side of campus. "I think my colleagues have already said everything," said lead when Pachorra handed him a bottle of mineral water: "I want to throw water?" Asked the DT and in the struggle, everyone laughed until Leo Messi , one of the most affected after the defeat.


"I'm very proud, it's very nice to recognize what is done. Want to thank unfortunately we would love to bring the Cup Hopefully we left values," Lavezzi closed. He also left several anecdotes and laughs.

http://www.ole.com.ar/seleccion/vez-mojo_0_1174682758.html


guled
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:35 PM
0
I saw a pic of the team when they went home with Argentinian president, higuin looks gloomy, may be he still can't believe the missed chance, higuain has screwed us many times, his misses v Uruguay cost us the copa and now in the biggest stage he did cost us, please gonzalo don't show us your face again


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:34 PM
0
age limit will not happen,illegal affecting right to work and human right

masherano age is fine, people need to stop illusion any player over 30 is gone, thats bull

masherano can play til 38 if wants to,

people to go are

campa, demichelis, orion palacio

also gago higuain aguero can join them

tevez was not picked also for letting NT time too much, not higuain can go

fred of brazil retired, the right thing, higuain should join him


Heroscomehome
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:28 PM
0
GUYS READ Translated from OLE Newspaper Argentina Greeted by FANS and PRIESDANT on return back home:

Messi was grateful to the people who went to receive Ezeiza and appreciated what was done by the team after he had doubts when he left for Brazil. "We will continue working to give more joy to the country," said the flea.


Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, after his words to the team and the country would listen to them, the players, the players in this national pride. And after passing the microphone to Alejandro Sabella, the President gave it to Lionel Messi. "Alejandro and said everything, thank you for the welcome of the people that was spectacular. We would have liked to bring the Cup, enjoy it ... We tried, we gave all, "Flea, still smarting from the fall in the final lamented.

"We gave great joy to the country having reached the end we give her anything without rival. We left with many questions from fans and journalists, and we became stronger than ever, we are very close. Now we will work to give more joy to the country, "promised the Argentinian star, the owner of the Ballon d'Or

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/fuertes_0_1174682749.html

Alejandro Sabella thanked fans for their support: "This team deserves recognition," said the coach, who has yet to confirm its continuity at the helm of the national team. "They did get people excited," he added.


Depues sparring partners and leaders, Alejandro Sabella was the first to look out the front door of the plane carrying the team from Brazil to Ezeiza. Received with applause by a good number of airport employees, Pachorra not dodged the microphone and left his message. "All thanks to the people by how we encouraged, how have followed us We gave 100%," said the coach, who not yet confirmed his continuance in office, something beyond the statements of its representative, surely know in the coming days.


"I hope you're satisfied because this band deserves it, because it gave everything, leave the skin on every play," Sabella, phrase repeated again at the meeting with President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, microphone in hand added in estate of the AFA. He added: "The same appreciation you have with this group of guys is that we all I feel part of the 40 million Argentines When I talked to them I told you, sometimes it seems I'm over cause I'm DT.. but no, I am one. I'm very proud because I left the skin on each share of game. "


"That's what he has done, beyond the post I made, which made people excited. They found a group of boys who would leave the skin on every play. Just as it says that the country is the other team is the other. was talk of the group, speaking of collective constructions, the contribution of the individual to the group and think about giving, not receiving, to create a virtuous circle, one receives the remaining 22.'m one more than me is grateful these guys, thank you very much, "greeted Pachorra, microphone to let the rest of the players also thanked for the affection and sadness for not having brought the Cup


http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Dejaron-piel_0_1174682736.html

Very excited, the president greeted the team in Ezeiza. He had strong words of support for the players and gave him a special hug to Mascherano. He even joked with Higuaín hit by Neuer.


Just stepped on Argentine soil, the players in the team moved to the estate of Ezeiza at walking pace by the amount of people who received them. There's nothing less than expected Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

The president hugged each of the members of the squad, but the most affectionate gesture he had was with Mascherano, who was so excited and hit something. Then he took the microphone and spoke to them: "I always lived up surrounded by soccer fans but I have put the Argentina shirt 365 days a year I felt immense pride as preisdenta by how colors are defended with dignity and pride.." he began. And then he said: "At first I gave 20 bucks for you but today their mouths covered many with claw and passion leaving everything they have.".



"I did not watched any party, nor the Sunday. Called Alejandro But because for me they had won the game, so sorry everyone," he summarized.



The highest authority of the country like chicanear gave Lavezzi by reputation with girls, and also by Higuaín hit with Neuer: "The blow received brother, the truth will be trompearon cute, darling ...".

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/taparon-boca_0_1174682746.html

As are champions! The team returned three great World Cup that just missed the cup Hundreds of fans greeted them at Ezeiza to give a mime to the heart. Will be back ...


Long faces. Not for less. The illusion was great as the importance of achievement. But not charged a penalty and a goal when he went to the second overtime were the cause Argentina to stay with the urge to turn around at the Maracana. Yes, nothing more and nothing less than in Brazil. Messi, Mascherano, Sabella and company felt the blow, the pain showed on the court and also to leave Rio de Janeiro. But after some delays due to fog, the Argentine squad came home and received the care of the fans. A slap to the heart. Neither like a smile or grin was on the face of the players leaving the Radisson hotel, much less to get to the Rio de Janeiro airport and learned that they should wait a while there, because there was a mist in Ezeiza hard which caused the overall delay. After a while, the staff could get on the plane, and from there sent him a wink: "Thanks Argentina" was read on the side, and rather large. After stepping on land, hundreds of fans who waited so early, made ​​them feel the pride argento. Flags, songs, pictures. What a pleasure to see you again ... From the airport the team moved to the grounds of the AFA, where Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner received them and thanked them colors have represented as it should. On the way a cute corridors fans sang the Ricchieri Highway to the utmost. Much appreciation to the effort. It was a victory lap which just missed the Cup

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Volver-casa_0_1174682699.html


Heroscomehome
(Argentina)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:27 PM
0
GUYS READ Translated from OLE Newspaper Argentina Greeted by FANS and PRIESDANT on return back home:

Messi was grateful to the people who went to receive Ezeiza and appreciated what was done by the team after he had doubts when he left for Brazil. "We will continue working to give more joy to the country," said the flea.


Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, after his words to the team and the country would listen to them, the players, the players in this national pride. And after passing the microphone to Alejandro Sabella, the President gave it to Lionel Messi. "Alejandro and said everything, thank you for the welcome of the people that was spectacular. We would have liked to bring the Cup, enjoy it ... We tried, we gave all, "Flea, still smarting from the fall in the final lamented.

"We gave great joy to the country having reached the end we give her anything without rival. We left with many questions from fans and journalists, and we became stronger than ever, we are very close. Now we will work to give more joy to the country, "promised the Argentinian star, the owner of the Ballon d'Or

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/fuertes_0_1174682749.html

Alejandro Sabella thanked fans for their support: "This team deserves recognition," said the coach, who has yet to confirm its continuity at the helm of the national team. "They did get people excited," he added.


Depues sparring partners and leaders, Alejandro Sabella was the first to look out the front door of the plane carrying the team from Brazil to Ezeiza. Received with applause by a good number of airport employees, Pachorra not dodged the microphone and left his message. "All thanks to the people by how we encouraged, how have followed us We gave 100%," said the coach, who not yet confirmed his continuance in office, something beyond the statements of its representative, surely know in the coming days.


"I hope you're satisfied because this band deserves it, because it gave everything, leave the skin on every play," Sabella, phrase repeated again at the meeting with President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, microphone in hand added in estate of the AFA. He added: "The same appreciation you have with this group of guys is that we all I feel part of the 40 million Argentines When I talked to them I told you, sometimes it seems I'm over cause I'm DT.. but no, I am one. I'm very proud because I left the skin on each share of game. "


"That's what he has done, beyond the post I made, which made people excited. They found a group of boys who would leave the skin on every play. Just as it says that the country is the other team is the other. was talk of the group, speaking of collective constructions, the contribution of the individual to the group and think about giving, not receiving, to create a virtuous circle, one receives the remaining 22.'m one more than me is grateful these guys, thank you very much, "greeted Pachorra, microphone to let the rest of the players also thanked for the affection and sadness for not having brought the Cup


http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Dejaron-piel_0_1174682736.html

Very excited, the president greeted the team in Ezeiza. He had strong words of support for the players and gave him a special hug to Mascherano. He even joked with Higuaín hit by Neuer.


Just stepped on Argentine soil, the players in the team moved to the estate of Ezeiza at walking pace by the amount of people who received them. There's nothing less than expected Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

The president hugged each of the members of the squad, but the most affectionate gesture he had was with Mascherano, who was so excited and hit something. Then he took the microphone and spoke to them: "I always lived up surrounded by soccer fans but I have put the Argentina shirt 365 days a year I felt immense pride as preisdenta by how colors are defended with dignity and pride.." he began. And then he said: "At first I gave 20 bucks for you but today their mouths covered many with claw and passion leaving everything they have.".



"I did not watched any party, nor the Sunday. Called Alejandro But because for me they had won the game, so sorry everyone," he summarized.



The highest authority of the country like chicanear gave Lavezzi by reputation with girls, and also by Higuaín hit with Neuer: "The blow received brother, the truth will be trompearon cute, darling ...".

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/taparon-boca_0_1174682746.html

As are champions! The team returned three great World Cup that just missed the cup Hundreds of fans greeted them at Ezeiza to give a mime to the heart. Will be back ...


Long faces. Not for less. The illusion was great as the importance of achievement. But not charged a penalty and a goal when he went to the second overtime were the cause Argentina to stay with the urge to turn around at the Maracana. Yes, nothing more and nothing less than in Brazil. Messi, Mascherano, Sabella and company felt the blow, the pain showed on the court and also to leave Rio de Janeiro. But after some delays due to fog, the Argentine squad came home and received the care of the fans. A slap to the heart. Neither like a smile or grin was on the face of the players leaving the Radisson hotel, much less to get to the Rio de Janeiro airport and learned that they should wait a while there, because there was a mist in Ezeiza hard which caused the overall delay. After a while, the staff could get on the plane, and from there sent him a wink: "Thanks Argentina" was read on the side, and rather large. After stepping on land, hundreds of fans who waited so early, made ​​them feel the pride argento. Flags, songs, pictures. What a pleasure to see you again ... From the airport the team moved to the grounds of the AFA, where Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner received them and thanked them colors have represented as it should. On the way a cute corridors fans sang the Ricchieri Highway to the utmost. Much appreciation to the effort. It was a victory lap which just missed the Cup

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Volver-casa_0_1174682699.html





marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:26 PM
0
As many of you bloggers have noted, Argentina strongly depends on Europe to play its best 11. This is becoming more incompetent, especially given that the best of Argentina have to quickly settle in Europe for monetary purposes. European nations like Germany or Spain beget most of their players from the domestic league, and it makes it easier for them to understand each other and build up a team. Argentina cannot afford itself the same opportunity as its selected players are dispersed all over Europe.

To improve the situation, more importance should be given to the domestic league. Players from the domestic league should be made to have a strong impact on the NT. And only the very best of players based in Europe should earn a call -- these are the likes of Messi, Mascherano, Garay or Zabaleta. The AFA has to find a way to work this out.

I notice similar trends in other nations that have European based players. In an African nation like Cameroon, Euro-based players don't want to risk their professional career by hustling hard for the team. The outcome has been failure in every group stage since the World Cup in 1990. The 1990 World Cup team of Cameroon that impressed on the World stage mostly had domestic players that had been playing many matches for a good amount of time.

Maybe there are a few ways AFA could work around this:
1) Always reserve a number of spots for domestic based players, at least 7 for example.
2) Euro-based players should be well tested in the NT shirt. A good test was made on Tevez, for example. But a poor test was made on a player like Aguero, or even Higuain or Palacio. Also I mostly found Basanta to be faultless in his game, although he is not Euro-based.
3) The AFA could increase the price tag on players being sought by European clubs. This will retain a sizable number of gifted players.
4) Set an age-limit for transfer of Argentina players outside of the American continent, to maybe 21.
5) This could be a more difficult task but it is rentable: provide a better image of its domestic league to the World like European nations do. This will increase the earnings of clubs, and they won't have to depend on Euro teams to bring in their finances from sold players.

This is worth considering.


Trini Pupi
(Trinidad And Tobago)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:25 PM
0
Among other things that foul on Zabaleta from Howedes was outrageous!
I got dark thoughts reminding me of what happened to Abbondanzieri in 2006 when i saw that...go not properly punished.

We should have scored those chances...ugh


marshallus
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:23 PM
0
As many of you bloggers have noted, Argentina strongly depends on Europe to play its best 11. This is becoming more incompetent, especially given that the best of Argentina have to quickly settle in Europe for monetary purposes. European nations like Germany or Spain beget most of their players from the domestic league, and it makes it easier for them to understand each other and build up a team. Argentina cannot afford itself the same opportunity as its selected players are dispersed all over Europe.

To improve the situation, more importance should be given to the domestic league. Players from the domestic league should be made to have a strong impact on the NT. And only the very best of players based in Europe should earn a call -- these are the likes of Messi, Mascherano, Garay or Zabaleta. The AFA has to find a way to work this out.

I notice similar trends in other nations that have European based players. In an African nation like Cameroon, Euro-based players that want to risk their professional career by hustling hard for the team. The outcome has been failure in every group stage since the World Cup in 1990. The 1990 World Cup team of Cameroon that impressed on the World stage mostly had domestic players that had been playing many matches for a good amount of time.

Maybe there are a few ways AFA could work around this:
1) Always reserve a number of spots for domestic based players, at least 7 for example.
2) Euro-based players should be well tested in the NT shirt. A good test was made on Tevez, for example. But a poor test was made on a player like Aguero, or even Higuain or Palacio. Also I mostly found Basanta to be faultless in his game, although he is not Euro-based.
3) The AFA could increase the price tag on players being sought by European clubs. This will retain a sizable number of gifted players.
4) Set an age-limit for transfer of Argentina players outside of the American continent, to maybe 21.
5) This could be a more difficult task but it is rentable: provide a better image of its domestic league to the World like European nations do. This will increase the earnings of clubs, and they won't have to depend on Euro teams to bring in their finances from sold players.

This is worth considering.


San Isidro
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:22 PM
0
Now that 24 hours has passed and it has sunk in a bit more.....I am even more upset. I was up all night long. I truly believe that the pain the fans, especially on this site feel is greater than the pain the players feel. You see, we are not millionaires or famous, what we feel is pure love and passion even though we fight with each other at times passionately.

It would be one thing if we were out classed or out played. That is not what happened here. We blew our chances simply stated. Sure, there was an injury to DiMaria, sure Sabella made a bone head move in pulling Lavezzi and putting in Aguero, but by the end of the game, I counted 5 clear opportunities that we blew. 2 by Messi (one in the first half and one in the beginning of the second half), two by Higuain, the giveaway by the Germans and the one he ran offsides, and the Palacio screw up we are all used to by now.
Simply stated Aguero, Higuain, Palacio, and the pure lack of pace by Messi in a once in a lifetime game blew this match for us. I guess now I have learned why Maradona loved Mascherano so much. The same passion, desire attitude and fight that consumed Maradona also consumes Mascherano. I wish I could say the same about others. Aguero simply is an immature clown. Every interview I saw him do he was always clowning around. The maturity to understand the importance of this to all our people just doesn't exist in someone like him. He lacks it, and maybe by the time he gets it his body and skills will defy him and not give him the chance.
Higuain wanted it more, but I learned that he is no Hernan Crespo or Gabriel Batistuta. Not by a country mile. He is a streaky player that can score goals in bunches or go completely dry. He is not a deadly striker who can get the ball into the net. Our screw up was not opening the door to Icardi or Ocampos to see if they have the ability to make magic happen.
Messi is what he is. He is not Maradona. He has great desire, but not play like my family is held at gunpoint mentality. He is the best version of Riquelme, Aimar, Ardiles combined, with elements of Maradona in him.
While I do believe club football has destroyed this tournament forever, we still are a football factory. Others will come, and now is the time to brush out many of these players, including Higuain, Aguero due to performance and many others like Demi, Masche, Palacio, Zabaleta because of age. Sure a few of these guys, maybe even Messi will make it to the next World Club, but none of them , including Messi should be the focus of our next WC appearance. Somehow I don't feel a 31 year old Messi should be the center piece of the next WC as 400 more games in the next 4 years will only deteriorate his body more.
The grief in this loss is unbearable for me, because of what could have been. I only pray that I am lucky enough to see Argentina raise the cup again in my lifetime.


MoonBear
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 6:05 PM
0
Germany is a deserving champion…best team in the tournament. BUT, not the best team yesterday. They are very fortunate that 1) FIFA decided it's a good idea to award the final match to a UEFA official…you know, the association that Germany is a part of and 2) that they were not playing with American NFL football rules…you know the league with helmets and full-body gear. Because in the NFL, this would have been a 15-yard personal foul and automatic ejection against a 'defenseless receiver.'

Apparently, it's cool to assault a completely defenseless player in a world cup final inside the penalty box because you got the ball 1st. Ok, now I understand.


http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Polemica-area_3_1174112606.html


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:59 PM
0
infact missed 2 1 v 1s, belgium he missed target too


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:58 PM
0
higuain miss was voted a bigger blooper than casillas and akinfeev goal keeper blunders

pathetic miss, and i will never forguve him, gets paid millions and cant even hit target on 1 v 1


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:53 PM
1
messi got argentina through the group
grit, luck and heart got us through knock out stage, not talent.

atleast with bielsa, passerella, pekerman we had an attacking threat

teams like iran player counter attack (and they hit the target unlike us)


watching argentina attack has been cringeworthy though, no force no flowing like in 2006, and pretty much no idea

higgy 7 games, 1 goal.

thanks sabella for the efforts
thank all the defenders who held us superbly all the way. 4 clean sheets in 90 mins in all ko games

thanks masherano, biglia, perez and yes di maria

thanks messi and lavezzi

higuain, palacio, aguero, GAGO can all go to hell and score for thier clubs

time for 4-2-3-1 with wingers helping full backs

2 def mid enough to shiled defence

get icardi and iturbe in now

messi set for no 10 role


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:51 PM
0
ghostdeini: x2 my friend, i fully understand its just as bad today but i gotta say being on here to express my disappointment and frustration has helped me a little.


Maserati O
(Oman)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:31 PM
0
Sorry i cant congragulate palacio and higuain. Ive couldve scored with these chances. Its not Sabellas fault they missfired


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:30 PM
0
sorry I meant to say Pradi.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:29 PM
0
Padri: sabella made these same changes against Holland, why is it a bad moved in his game? The only reason Germany scored was due to fatigue of our players and tiredness..We just could not hold on for another 120 minutes, we were physically drained and mentally drained..If you notice the goal came through Schrulle one of Germany fresher player..We almost took Germany to penalty, which could have gone anyway but we felt short unlike the Dutch game..It was not meant to be, life goes on for me..I love Argentina football with all my heart and I will always support the team at every level..But one thing for sure, I'm done with Euro club football..Don't care what's going on at Barcelona, Real, Man City etc at this point..


ghostdeini
(Albania)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:25 PM
1
I am really sad, i thought today it will go away but it got worse, sorry guys. see you.


ghostdeini
(Albania)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:21 PM
0
Low forced a system to the German team with lahm as a midfielder, he was stuborn and played bad football, but everybody said change it, change it and he changed it, Low is World Champion, Low who never won a cup beside the dfb Pokal, because the Germans criticize even when you win 4-0, they are perfectionist.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:20 PM
0
Strikers are de first to blame for sure.... But sabella made some really bad decisions... We spoiled de chances to go front but never lost de control f de game, also felt like nore n more chances coming... Aguero in for lavezzi is really terrible,, if he replaced higuain that is understandable, but why de hell lavezzi... Also palcio can b brought for perez for lot more energy n pace in wings, but.... And then gago, i was completely lost when saw dat xhange... The team we had on pitch after 3rd change is de team we expect to see at de last desperate attempt after 115 mins or so...


la bendita
(Uganda)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:17 PM
0
Congratulations are in order because i love this team, i love la Albiceleste, win or lose that's why it hurts me so bad. I have been absolutely gutted since the final whistle.

Ive asked myself the same question as many on here, why why why oh why, everything was going right for us till the final. When di maria didnt start, i felt fear, i had remotely hoped he'd be on pain killers and play the first half atmost.

We were subdued in the first half playing deep and on the break but we had our chances still, felt super betrayed by Pipita not being composed having been gifted with a back pass and not checking his run when Lavezzi squared a ball through the box. Pocho gave it everything on the break and personally i suspect that he got burnt out and that's why he was subbed that quick.

We did better in the second half and played comfortably. The defence was solid as has been this entire tournament. The germans benefited from being used to a highline (boateng and hummels both play a highline in their clubs). As you well know the maracana is immense. Without playing compact with a highline or packedd midfield you burnout and attack becomes isolated from the midfield/defence. With our central defenders we couldn't play a highline (not with garay and Demi) as such we were dominated/subdued for long spells. On the break we didn't exploit their highline much with balls over the top as tried Algeria. We dearly missed Angel. Messi had to drop deep and seek possession (clear indication of a missing link). Enzo Perez showed glimpses of being assertive and confident to make direct attacks but then he was subbed. Aguerro shamed the faith we all had in him, shying away from holding possession and doing little compared to what Lavezzi was doing prior..... i don't fault Sabella for this.

Gago the one many love to ridicule gives the team a different dimension. His major skill is passing, and yes we needed composure in possession and those direct through balls but not at the cost of Enzo Perez. Palacio though having an excellent work rate is average, not suitable for this NT and definately proved that the big stage was too big for him.

Our midfield on occassions gave too mucch respect to the germans, I must say i was shocked when players sprung to life after we'd conceded. They got me wondering why they weren't playing with that confidence and assuredness before, standing up to the germans.

The goal that turned everything sour came from an ordinary nothing spectacular play, i cant fault anyone for this seeing as we had easier chances than it and didnt capitalise. Our forward line let us down in a game of few chances, it helps to make them count.

I credit Sabella for building a fortress of a defence and a unit of a team, cohesion and chemistry was better than before.I credit the players for being different than from campaigns before, bravo Romero and Marcos Rojo (what a player),Garay, Masche and Demi, i could ask for more surely, you guys tipified the Albiceleste backline. Thank you to Messi the glue that held everything together, Fideo , Pocho, Enzo.. Gonzalo, Thank you everyone for breaking the quarter final misery and making the final.....taking nothing away this, am proud of you. We are miles far from what Brazil made of themselves we lost honourably by a small margin. Its about time we exacted our long kept revenge for the germans and the entire Europe.

At the final whistle i was so downcast, i couldnt watchon, i couldnt watch our boys cry much less those awful germans. Right ive lost interest in European soccer. As part of the healing process, ive had to stay away from biased news sources (European), social media, newspapers. Don't get me started on the English commentary for the game... so Euro-centric, ewwww!!

All in all, the future is still bright,cheer up, Keep calm and love La albiceleste, Sabella staying on wd prove beneficial for us, for the evolution of the team. Instead of antagonizing each other and hating on our players we can help each other heal from the pain of this loss.

Word for the admin, kindly requesting for an update of this portal/website to support reply threads for user comments so as to track discussions better. otw kudos for always cheering for our beloved team and keeping us updated throughout the tournament Thank you.


ghostdeini
(Albania)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:17 PM
0
also built around the strengths of the squad, a good coach (especially a good national coach) is someone who works with what he has and is versatile to build a team around the strengths of the squad and covers the weaknesses and doesnt force them a system that doesnt fit, transfers are not allowed you cant buy players to fit the system you must work with what you have.


ghostdeini
(Albania)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:11 PM
3
@unbanable @KidultHood
what is sure with fans like you and some others Argentina doesn´t need an enemy.

choose a smart coach, choose the best players available, put a balanced formation on the field that can defend but also attack,discipline, and someone who kicks the players asses who are like divas, no nepotism, and no discrimination, the smart coach must also use subs smartly, and have versatile squad.



HaititoArg
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:11 PM
0
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/fifa-world-cup-2014-mourinho-blames-sabella-not-messi-argentinian-defeat-1456633

That's the way I felt


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:09 PM
0
Thanks pablo.d. All this talk of needing a playmaker in this squad is ridiculous. Even if we had a healthy playmaker at the top of his game, Sabella's system doesn't allow for that type of player to do just that. h=He would pass on him for someone who can mark and play a more hard nosed type of position (Enzo Perez).


Batigol9
(Lebanon)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 5:04 PM
0
and hats off to Mario Kempes, he is a true legend.We always talk about Maradona but Kempes is kind off underrated,though he equally delivered in 1978 having the immense pressure of playing the final at home turf.After seeing how the Brazilians struggled I realized how challenging it is to win the WC as a host.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:57 PM
1
kh: sabella had made up his mind of 90% of his team a year before the w/c if not longer, their was never going to be any type of play maker and he never experimented with any one to do that job as it all fell on messi.
you are correct we seem to lack playmekers in general but be honest and even if one as available sabella would not have picked him as that is not his type of game plan.
we should have given a playmaker a go as a plan b and we have had 3 years to find some one close to it but sabella has not tried to do so.



Batigol9
(Lebanon)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:41 PM
0
Barca have killed Messi over the last 5 years,70 games each season,the guy is playing at 40% his potential! Gary linekar saw the semi final match and felt sad that Messi was not playing at his true potential.Even at half his best he was better than most players in the World Cup.What kills me is that we have 3 of the 4 best players in History (Di Stefano,Maradona,Messi) but only two world cups to show for it,that's not fair!


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:37 PM
0
i want talented hard fighting argentina players in a team obsessions with the label PLAYMAKER is pissing me off

messi makes play -di maria makes play-aimar-roman there just different thats all

to think of a 442 with a 26 year old maxi and a 26 year old di maria on the wings mascharano-veron as center midfielders and messi higuain up front

destroy teams wuth power-flare-fighting spirit


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:29 PM
0
KIDS BANG ON THE MONEY AGAIN


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:27 PM
0
mic thats the whole threads point they scoredone just one ofthem chances GAME OVER we dominated germany in normal time we destroyed there system with old school italian like defending and breaking at them SABELLA GOT IT RIGHT


Arge
(Suriname)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:26 PM
0
yes batigol, like I said it before cancel the friendly. Waste opportunity this was right moment for messi 27yrs old. If he can score for Barca in 2 Ch.league & Club WC final, why can't he score a goal for Albiceleste yesterday. Messi if you want succes with Arg, quit Barca & come play in Argentina competition. Winning the WC is the real deal. Kempes, Maradonna are true Albiceleste legend. Messi a great player but without WC title, you will end up like cruyff, baggio, zico, platini, raul. As for Kun go back to mancity & make them champion & pull your shirt off again, not worthy for Albiceleste. You Palacio amateur!, veteran palermo could hav scored for Arg.


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:24 PM
0
there can never be a 6 foot 4 inch blond maradona , there can never be a 6 foot 4 inch african messi

there whothey are based on GENETICS argentina produce nateral footballers END OF BS RACIAL OFFENDING NONSENSE

maxi lopez used to call everyone who mentioned this racists, he loved accusing people of racism


BULLSHIT RACISM if china sent a squad of 6 foot 6 inch blonds to a world cup woud you not be going HHHMMMMMMmmmmm team china ithink not


mic
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:21 PM
0
i was begging our forwards to score just one goal, just one. i was sure if we scored one, Germany could never break our defence.


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:21 PM
0
tall black guys re natural basketballers


argentines are natural footballers DENY THAT YOUR A LIAR


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:19 PM
0
argentina breed the best stock if foottballer was a breed of dog they would be ARGENTINA BULL TERRIORS FACT...


this is wht infuriates me with political correctness and calling people RACISTS ,,its genetical fact its the race -breed-dna that makes argentines great footballers THAT IS A FACT NO MATTER WHO IT OFFENDS

its the breed the blood just as a black guys more likely to in the 100m sprint LETS BE HONEST HERE



holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:18 PM
0
I agree, Messi had a great match due to having taken advantage of the space around him. But the finishing across the board was poor. If the Germans had gotten the chances we had, they would have buried them.


Gilly
(India)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:16 PM
0
Thankyou Roy for lifting some of my spirit. All I can say is that I am proud to be an Argie fan and all the credit goes to my team and Sabella for giving me this incredible feeling. Yes my heart is broken and a dream shattered but there is one twinkling hope inside that we are surely going to be the world champions in Russia 2018. Vamos Argentina !


mic
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:16 PM
0
Messi was involved in almost every Argentine attack. he actually had one of his best games in this tournament, except he didn't score. clearly the best forward wearing a blue jersey.

match highlights:

http://www.lastminutegoals.org/germany-vs-argentina-world-cup-final/


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:15 PM
0
If Higuain had score that easy goal, Argentina would have control the game..Messi would also be playing much more freer due to Germany obsession of getting an equalizer which would give Messi a ton of space going forward..Di Maria was solely miss, I don't see no one in the squad or out of the squad that can do what Di Maria does for Argentina, that's a FACT..


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:15 PM
0
this argentina nervs thing IT HAS TO STOP


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:14 PM
0
@KID there was no other strikers just as there was no playmaker

all best strikers were taken and there is no playmaker outside messi


unbanable
(Wales)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:10 PM
0
messi man of match 4 x in a row LUCK HUH !!!!

MASCHARANO LEADING PASSER AND TACKLER LUCK HUH !!!

DIMARIA FUTHEST DISTENCE TRAVELED AND NEVER STOPPED RUNNING LUCK HUH !!!!

Messi leading goal chance creator LUCK HUH !!!!


LEADING BALL POSESSION UPTO SEMIS LUCK HUH!!!!!


i dont think so


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 7/14/2014 at 4:10 PM
0
pablo: what creative midfielder? Are you talkin