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Posted by Roy Nemer (Roy Nemer) Monday, June 16, 2014 Go To Comments

Argentina 2 - 1 Bosnia-Herzegovina: Match Highlights




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(Vietnam)
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dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 6:49 AM
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------gago----masherano

----------ricky------

-lavezzi---------aguero-

---------messi---


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 6:48 AM
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german y play 4-6 but the midfielder get into attacking positions

ours dont, masherano and gago dont do this, so messi always comes deep

hate to say it but pekermans tactics would work very well with us today


argentina always play well with 4 attacking creative players and need to stick with this , with support from gago and zabaleta.

however if di maria is going to be like a headless chicken for us, let alvarez start as number 10, with lavezzi right aguero left and messi as no 9


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 6:41 AM
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Being 4-3-3 , opponent CBs will be occupied by pipta and agureo so messi will get lot of relief and he can show his magic.


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 6:39 AM
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i dont think our 4-3-3 wont be a defensive disaster , we played well with that formation against many teams includes sweeden,uruguay ,chile . we were fine with this formation.
Because zaba will be having very limited offensive duty, and masch will be in our half to counter any counter attacks.
But yes i love to see one of our striker contribute in defense .


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 6:36 AM
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Richard,
i think a 433 is an inherently unbalanced team... particularly when two of the midfielders are better known for their offensive capabilities, and the 3 forwards are known for not defending...

barcelona played it and it worked when they a very fast defender like abidal and alves are their peak plus pique and puyol at their peak... then masche who is also somewhat fast kept it alive....

but a 433 is like fast racing car without breaks... so you can go fast but you will crash....

a more balance solution, in my view is a 442 where masche can drop back a play as libero......

pipita messi
dimaria biglia
rojo garay masche ff zabaleta...



Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 5:59 AM
0
@dammage7

Normally I would stick with 4-3-3. Always start based on your own strengths. Germany however is a strong squad with an unusual 4-6-0 formation. Various midfielders move forward which makes it dynamic and hard to defend. With only 3 midfielders this could be very risky, surely as not all our forwards help defence.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 5:36 AM
0
i have said it before:

gago is technically gifted, physically weak...
gago is best when coming in the second half...
left him come in when the other team is already more tired...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 5:19 AM
2
to those are hammering sabella, including all the argentinian press, thanks that sabella is the coach, and not them. they want sabella to be maradona.... sabella did great yesterday, no perfect, because i would have rather see enzo perez instead of maxi, but great...

for all of you downgrading bosnia:

do keep in mind that bosnia has one of the best attacking teams in the world cup...
ibesevic has scored over 33 goals in his two seasons in germany.
dzeko is world class and the reason man city won the premier.
pjanic is world class and would be a starter in 97% of the teams.
sejad salihovic score 11 goal in the german league this season...
senad lulic is more succesful at roma that gago was in roma, valencia or real madrid...
and i can keep going on...

now, put this in perspective:
muller score 13 goals this season in germany, ribery 11, robben 10....






vineet
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 5:12 AM
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arglover,
germany holland has not won anything in last 4 world cup. italy has an easy passage in 2006. brazil 2002 was class apart. also wait till 13 july ,neither germany nor holland would be there in macarana.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:52 AM
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Arglover,
this one team against another.... is a dynamic game, with coaches on both sides, choosing strategies.
bosnia played smarter against argentina the first half because they knew what to expect in a 532...
and when argentina changed, bosnia had a more difficult time defending....
and well, argentina defended badly because bosnia has a good attack and the 4 fantasticos and gago are better at attackign than defending...

anyways, i think a 442 is the best system, alternating to 433 and even 532...

but if we play the same way always, we are screwed because teams will know how to attack our weak defense, and even how to defend us... we have to be unpredictable.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:33 AM
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@ dammage7, Maxi Rodriguez and Angel Di maria both are attacking midfielders, the only difference is that against Slovenia the no.10 (Ricky Alvarez) played and sacrificed foe the team unlike the world cup openar.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:28 AM
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What I have learned from my 4 previous world cup experiences, The champion of the world cup always gonna be that nation who plays as a unit, , Germany, Italy, Netherlands , Brazul play that way, I expect a world cup winner from these nations.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:22 AM
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like it or not messi is our best player.

we beat slovenia cos we had an attack minded midfield not defending midfielders

had enzo, augusto, maxi,


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:19 AM
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I think Sabella is within his right to select 5-3-2 as it provides far more defensive assurance to the team, its unfortunate when your team captain doesn't want to sacrifice himself for the teams well being, Lionel Messi is Argentinas biggest problem *I apologise to you guys but its true), I saw Argentina giving far more commanding displays without gim against Italy, Bosnia or Slovenia, he is a player who wants this unbalancing 4-2-4 system for his betterment or should I say scoring, this system is a recipe for disaster against major nations as none of the 4 forwards don't use to defend at all a s that means in this formation Argentina plays with only 6 players who defend and to go with a below average gk; I also believe Sabella would have selected Caballero but here comes Messis good relationship with Romero, I even read somewhere that Messi doesn't go that well with Willy, thats why he is not even 30 man squad whereas he should have started for us, please unlike me as wwll as you can but Lionel Messis ego will be too big in Argentinas wat to glory.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:14 AM
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@richard

why should we chnage our formtion vs other teams. they will not chnage theirs vs us.

we need to stop acting like pussies and play our best foramtion with best players

the germans would steam roll biglia. germany only lose when they are really pushed back as in 2012 vs italy and 2010 vs spain.

even vs germany play 4-3-3 with gago/masherano

if we need to attck perez can come on for gago.

also higuain is damn slow, and lavezzi/palacio will do better with their pace esp palacios


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:11 AM
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5-3-2 is only useful vs high pressing teams like spain, germany etc.

you cant play it vs mediocre defensive teams

its a shame after 3 years he does not know his preferred formation/line up. he has all these friendlies to experiment to prepare for the world cup but even today he is unsure.

yes we will beat iran nigeria but so what, we needed to beat bosnia convincingly

also our passing was awful b masherano, di maria
higuains 1st touvh was dreadful except for the messi goal

aguero was below par

truth us argentina was poor but good enough to beat bosnia. the same performance would get steam rolled by england, germany brazil

its time to play the best formation to get the best out of the best players

we know the back for thats fine

midf is

----gago---masherano---di maria

perez and ricky can sub on for gago/di maria

(as we can see no need fo augusto, would have been better to pick a fit striker over injured higuain, aplacios and aguero)

up front messi, aguero, higuain ( i really dont mind seeing lavezzi or palacios) either i think lavezzi compliments messi very well and if anything lavezzi aguero combo helps messi play in false no9 role


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:07 AM
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Agreed. We should stick with 4-3-3 in the next two or three games. Against tough opponents like for example Germany we could play 4-4-2 with Perez or Biglia in stead of Higuain or Aguero to prevent being outnumbered in midfield.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 4:06 AM
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@ elpipita, these ifs gna be big, very big, anyway I don't see Argentina causing any problems to majornations, its not possible when you have a player in your team who is bigger than the nation.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 3:51 AM
0
nothing would surprise me about Argentine football at all.
I don't want to believe these rumors but its possible as ive said before the fab 4 was not sabellas idea it was forced on him because of injury and it worked but sabella did not want to continue it but messi insisted.

the fab 4 is not a saballa type of gam plane, what we saw in the 1st half of the 1st game was but we just don't have the players for it unlike the players we do have for the fab 4.


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 3:37 AM
1
Here is a quote from English quality newspaper The Guardian: “Sabella had only heightened the sense of mystery by saying his selection was not to do with how he expected Bosnia to line up but “more with other things, but I can’t say what publicly”, prompting rumours about cliques and splits in the squad.”

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/16/argentina-bosnia-herzegovina-world-cup-group-f-match-report\

Yesterday’s public statements made by both Messi and Zabaleta about the formation confirm that (probably) the majority of the players want to play 4-3-3. Sabella and staff prefer 5-3-2. It looks like the classic battle of Argentina football: the coaching staff are adepts of Bilardo whereas players belong in the Menotti / Bielsa school of football.

A rift between players and staff is the last thing we need. In 2002 there was a fight in the dressing room during the break in the match against England. We now need unity. One team, one mission.



TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 2:53 AM
1
@ElPipita - agree with you bro. Everyone should step off the ledge. It's 1 game and let's not anoint anyone world cup champs just yet , or kick them out of the competition !

These kind of things happen. Every team has their strengths and weaknesses. EVERY team. Just because the Dutch eased past Spain doesn't mean that they don't have any weaknesses. Just because Argentina struggled against Bosnia doesn't mean that our strengths aren't good enough. Just relax, enjoy the game and support the team !

Over here in such forums, if you are contributing something, try to say something positive , or something objective so that it leads to better discussions.

If it's just a doomsday rant , or utterly negative stuff, or stuff like how we have selected the wrong players and how player Y should have been chosen instead, there's really nothing to discuss further, is there?


TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 2:41 AM
1
My very rookie strategic analysis on why we seem to have struggled defensively in a 5-3-2 formation, and defensively in general (with our 4-3-3), despite having pretty decent individual players, including an analysis on the Arg vs Bosnia game . Please be gentle folks, hope you get till the end without throwing stuff at me :) :

(disclaimer: it's just 1 game for every team so far. I don't believe we can conclude much yet about who the favorites are and everything so quick. )

1. First thing - hats off to the Bosnia team for their WC debut. They played extremely well , showed discipline and grit. They should be rightfully proud of their showing.

2. Now, we started with a 5-3-2 . The key players I want to focus on are Rojo, Zabaleta, Maxi, Di Maria, Messi and Aguero.

3. We know that with a 5-back, Rojo and Zabaleta as wing backs have huge responsibilities in defense as well as attack. They need to have the stamina and speed to track back quick, and concentration not to go for hasty challenges.

4. To their credit, both performed pretty decent. Rojo showed that he is full of stamina, and has the speed to get back really quick when required. I am just a little wary of their tackling. I say this because, they shouldn't go for a quick, hasty tackle up field (if they miss, they are out of the play), but instead have the patience to get back in time, tracking the wingers. I felt both the players did a pretty reasonable job with it.

5. Maxi and Di Maria have a key role here. When in possession, they need to control the ball AND the pace of the game. They need to read and assess the situation. If Bosnia shows space, they need to push up fast, and utilize the weakness. If not, they need to slow down the game, and wait for the Wingbacks to come in support of the attack. When they don't have the ball, they need to track back quick to midfield and press the player, or the ZONE where the wingback left empty to assist in defense. Unfortunately, both had off days. Di maria's nature is to be more speedy and run with the ball immediately in attack. If and when he loses the ball (which was often), we get exposed in the midfield zone and our WBs are too far back right now. Maxi has intelligence, but unfortunately not the speed right now. He was made ineffective by a very disciplined Bosnian midfield. Maxi is better off as an effective weapon further up field, where his calmness in finishing , his best quality these days, comes into effect.

6. Messi and Aguero also have a strong role in such a situation. The transition from defense to attack in a 5-3-2 cant happen too quickly against an organized midfield. Unfortunately, they made too many forward runs too early (which again is their natural game). Automatically, they get isolated, especially when we lose the ball, and automatically, we are 2 players short in defense. Add to this that Messi and Aguero (Messi especially) is a bit indisciplined, or rather inconsistent when it comes to defending.

7. The Bosnian midfield was very effective. I felt that Besic really stood out, and Pjanic too . Besic frequently showed zest and discipline in shutting down our attempts from midfield , and Pjanic controlled the game well for his team. This further caused our team to struggle a bit more.

8. Now why did 4-3-3 work better in attack for us?
I felt there were a number of reasons. Gago for Maxi automatically brought about more movement, willingness to get involved in passing and incision. A player like Gago also allowed us to control the game a bit more in terms of the pace. The switch to 4-3-3 helped counter their midfield with our own for a change. Dzeko was being managed well by the 2 central defenders, so there wasn't a need to overload the defense since most of their trouble was from Midfield.
The mental aspect was another bing thing. With Higuain, automatically the remaining 3 guys perked up mentally and Messi (atleast) started playing much better.

9. Why doesn't our 5-3-2 work like it does for Holland?
There's no point comparing this. It's just 1 game. A few reasons come to mind: a. look back at holland's game. You will see that Van Persie and Robben started in deeper positions compared to our front 2 of Aguero, Messi. That helps in midfield. Spain also are a high-press team, trying to maintain a high line. Holland exploited this well, creating 1v1 or 1v2 situations with 1 of the strikers. Blind (left wing back for holland) had an excellent game with 2 very crucial assists with accurate long passes.

10. Why do we still appear defensively weak with a 4-3-3?
Tough to answer, but I think it's the nature of our players. We have Di Maria, and Messi (the 2 players playing a slightly deeper role than Aguero and Higuain), both who love to surge forward with the ball and take on players, and create numerous 1-2 passes. Because they love doing this - Aguero and Higuain push high up. It looks incredible when it comes off well (Messi goal). The 4 players especially LOVE doing this because they understand each other so well, and have incredible quickness of thinking and feet.

But, when it doesnt work, and a pass gets intercepted or misplaced, it leaves us vulnerable when they lose the ball (as messi lost the ball often in the 1st half). Automatically, when we lose the ball, Aguero and Higuain are in or very close to the opposition box, Messi usually may not track back, and Di Maria runs back to cover. This is when we get exposed.

11. What do we do?
No clue , that's Sabella's headache! Fairly certain that he will play to the strengths of the 4 best players , and go 4-3-3. We all know the weakness ,but the maybe it helps to trust the best players to do their thing. OUTSCORE the fucking opposition !:-)
If we go 5-3-2 , he is better served with a player like Gago, Perez in the midfield instead of Maxi, and perhaps start with Higuain instead of Aguero.
4-4-2 could be an option, but I am not sure if Sabella has tried it often yet!




Mikail
(Malaysia)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 2:36 AM
2
Hi everyone, this is my first comment here but have been reading on mundo since the Seba time during WC2006.

First of all regarding the game, even though Bosnia had the upper hand in the first half I thought that Argentina defense was more more or less comfortably contained the Bosnian attacks. Other than the 1 or 2 threatening set pieces from Bosnia, most of their attacks were well nullified by Arg defense. Hence, the Bosnians were resorting to shooting from outside the box which were not really threatening at all.

However, the big concern in the first half was the midfield, which was quite disjointed. Our midfielders were all over the place and could't exert their control on the middle of the park. This situation gave the initiative to the Bosnian midfield to pour forward and swarmed our half which left Messi and Aguero both isolated upfront. I understand that the reason to play 5-3-2 was to free Messi and Aguero from the defensive task but it didn't work out and the system needs some tweaking. Parts of the problems in my opinion are because our wingbacks were quite conservative and both of Maxi and Di Maria were stretching the centre of midfield to wide and left Mascherano alone to fight the losing battle. It was like Germany 2010 all over again. The inclusion of Gago in the second half was very important because he made the centre of midfield thick and closed the gap between defense and attack.

Therefore, I think the most balance formation for Argentina attack and the defense is the same system which Man City used in their recent championship winning season. 4-2-2-2 looks the best fit for Argentina current group of players.

---------Romero
Zabaleta----FF---Garay----Rojo
-----Gago---Mascherano----
----Messi-------Di Maria
-----Higuain---Aguero

With this system, the role of Mascherano is sort of like a libero. When the fullback push forward to attack Mascherano will stay behind in between the 2 CBs to provide extra cover and he also will be responsible to break clear from the defense with the ball. Gago is the one responsible to knit the midfield and attack together. In other words, when attacking, the system will become 3-1-3-1-2 or 3-5-2 and Argentina will have numerical advantage by having 6-7 players to attack.

-------Romero
---FF--Mascherano--Garay
--------Gago
Zabaleta-------Di Maria-----Rojo
-------Messi
------Higuain-----Agueron

And when defending the formation can be switched back to 4-2-2-2 or 4-3-2-1 with Gago and Di Maria will come inside to compact the centre of midfield. Messi and Aguero will drop back to take advantage of any quick counter and Higuain will stay upfront to provide the outlet for counter attack. In other words, Argentina will have 8-9 players when defending.

------ Romero
Zabaleta----FF-----Garay----Rojo
-----Gago----Mascherano
----------------------Di Maria
-----Messi------Aguero
----------Higuain


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 2:26 AM
1
I would rather prefer a slow and steady start in the group stage and consistency in the knock out stage

to

a great start in the group stage and fade gradually in the knock out stage.

That Bosnia game was not the best display but it surely provided a lot of confidence to Messi and Sabella.

We have to take care of our stars in the group stage and keep them fit and sharp to shine at the right moment. I would not like keeping Messi/Di Maria/Higuain/Aguero/Mascherano in the field if we are 2/3 goals ahead of Iran or Nigeria.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 2:22 AM
1
@ Arglover no offense man but your 'ifs' don't meant jack! That time for ifs is long looong gone. Argentina has a talented squad of 23 players and the team should be more than able to make do.

Look I have no problem with constructive criticism and we've all offered plenty of that.
Sabella got his formation wrong and the team suffered in the first half and EVERYONE played badly but Sabella was a man enough to admit his mistake and switched to 4-3-3 in the second half and things improved dramatically, infact the albicelestes controlled the match entirely if you discount the defensive brain fart that occurred in the last 6 min or so.
I think some of you really need to dial down the negativity here because it's rapidly killing this site and it's spirit; for god's sake the albicelestes had one freaking game, a 3 point game to boot and some of you are already posting the team's obituary.

Like I said, you're all within your right to criticize the team's performance but saying that the albicelestes performed poorly is very different from saying that the team is going to fail and stating it like it's a fact.
Personally I'm going to wait until the end of the 3rd game (not before!) to state my prediction for the team's chances of winning.


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 2:21 AM
0
I really want to see what the Mundo Panicos are going to say when the team finds its groove. We won and we will improve like all champions do in this tournament. By the time we play our fourth game players will be sharp and more concentrated.


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 2:07 AM
0
It's not like 5-3-2 will not work for us, Why it didn't work in the Bosnia game is because of the personnel. Had Gago or Enzo started and Basanta instead of Campagnaro. Di Maria and Maxi where not helping Masche in the middle . 433 is our best formation going forward but how it leaves our midfield open and allows oppponents to attack us with ease, is scary. Only Messi should have the freedom of not tracking back but Higuain and Aguero must help defend. Other thing I don't like it when our strikers are not coming to help Messi when he comes to collect from deep.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 1:38 AM
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Argentina had the luxury of calling up world class goalkeepers luke Caballero and Speroni, now they can watch how a ball glides through their goalkeeper ib a world cup match.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 1:35 AM
0
If Sabella had the guts to call up Salvio and Gaitan Di Maria would have been less secured in his position and that would bring the best out of him, he was super for Madrid because he knew he is bot ab automatic starter.


TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 1:34 AM
1
@Vineet - Pepe had no business going back to Muller when no foul was called. He could have just walked away or even had a word with Muller. Instead, trying to head-butt a player will earn you a red. It was beyond dumb of him. Total douche move that cost his whole team to play a man less for the entire 2nd half .

Germany were aggressive but I didn't see any cards warranted. They got away with 1 penalty that should have been given to Portugal, but I don't think the result was in doubt at any point of time. All games have a way of working out like that - sometimes you get many calls in your favour (Brazil-Croatia, I can also name many Arg games), sometimes things go against you (many arg games here as well). As a team, you suck it up and keep playing and find ways to win.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 1:32 AM
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Fact:Germany, Netherlands, Italy and Brazil are way way ahead of us, better luck next time, Lionel Messi needs everything on his favour to perform, El Diego could do it against all barriers and difficult most circumstances, that's why he is regarded as the greatest ever.


vineet
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 1:27 AM
0
why is that German team get fewer cards than any other team though they play physically.i thought pepe red card was a bit unfair. i think refrees are soft on germans.


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 1:16 AM
0
@The Thinker : Easy with your comments on richard.
Let me ask you are you satisifed with messis performance in the match...? , is that what we expecting from the worlds best player..?

I dont understand is Messi beyond for critics ..? we are all giving excuse for messi by saying it is the formation that sucks , but why no one can give the excuse to other players like dimaria [ infact he was good].




Trini Pupi
(Trinidad And Tobago)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 1:09 AM
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Is it me or does this game remind of a lot of our 2006 opener against Ivory Coast.
Where we struggled but 2 clinical goals clinched it and we conceded in 1. Everyone was saying how terrible we were and to slow....it turned out to be one of our best world cups ..of course we didn't win but Argentina won over many people in that tournament. It seems familiar.


Budhasmilez
(India)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:53 AM
0
This news bit came in one of the Indian Newspaper

Sabella remarked " saying his selection was not to do with how he expected Bosnia to line up but “more with other things, but I can’t say what publicly,”
This has prompted rumours about cliques and splits in the squad.

I hope there is no infightng in the team.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:47 AM
2
argentina will have to mix the 442, 532 and 433 all through out the tournament...

if it decides it will play only 433;

defensively it will be become so predictable that opponents will masacre argentina...

and even offensively playing the 433 consistently will weaken the impact of the 4 fantasticos...

it is like the difference between running fast, and acceleration... and in futbol accelaration is even more important than running fast...
you play a 442, then change into a 433 and the other team cannot adjust to you...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:45 AM
0

now is clear that:
with a 532 argentina plays awful
the 433 is so weak, that argentina won the first half 1 0, and with the 433 tied 1 1...

argentina will have to mix the 442, 532 and 433 all through the tournament...

if it decides it will play 433; defensively it will be become so predictable that opponents will masacre argentina... and even offensively playing the 433 consistently will weaken the impact of the 4 fantasticos...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:44 AM
3
sabella was great in the first game....

that is what i expect of him...
he was conservative and play a 532 ...
it was the perfect time to try it...

now is clear that:
with a 532 argentina plays awful
the 433 is so weak, that argentina won the first half 1 0, and with the 433 tied 1 1...

argentina will have to mix the 442, 532 and 433 all through the tournament...

if it decides it will play 433; defensively it will be become so predictable that opponents will masacre argentina... and even offensively playing the 433 consistently will weaken the impact of the 4 fantasticos...


Volante
(United States)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:28 AM
0
One of the main reasons why Germany does well in pretty much every world cup is their top notch preparation. They looked super fit today and pressed so well in the heat. Argentina, on the other hand looked quite sluggish in much cooler weather. A team can have as many world class players as it wants, but if the fitness coaches don't do a good job that team will never win anything.

Germany and Brazil are far ahead in sports science and that's why they do well consistently in world cups.

Argentina is going to really struggle against organized European teams which press well. The first half performance yesterday was so bad. The main reason for that was Sabella's awful tactics. Playing 3 center backs against just 1 striker is a very bad mistake. That gave Bosnia control in midfield.

The second half performance was much better after he switched to the usual 4-3-3. The defense looked suspect though. Fede is extremely flat footed and better teams will exploit that.

So far the South American teams have looked very mediocre. Brazil, despite having one of their worst ever teams, will go far because the refs will keep gifting them decisions.

In the end though a European team (likely to be Germany) will win the world cup. I don't say that because Europeans have better players. It's because they are tactically way ahead of South Americans and their fitness coaches are much better in preparing their players.

Sorry to say but the AFA have wasted another great generation of players due to their greed and stupidity. Argentina needs a miracle to win the world cup. I still hope they win it somehow.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:28 AM
0
if sabella changes systems. the changing in systems during a game makes it more difficult to play against us... it is like running fast always, versus accelerating...you start with a 532, change at half time to a 433 and the other team that got used to controlling you, now cannot do it...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:28 AM
1
uruguay received 3 goals, spain 5, portugal 4; and the argentinian press is killing sabella... they are saying what a huge mistake he made and so on, and that luckily there were changes in half time...

I, on the other hand, i see what sabella did as a master piece...

1. there was no luck in sabella changes at half time. it was talent, sabella's read the game and acdt on it. i have never seen a coach, winning 1 0, make to non injury related changes at half time.

2. this was a perfect time to try the 5 3 2, against and opponent with a tough offensive team; and despite the talk, argentinas defense did remain weak, but was better than in the last 30 minutes of the game.

3. i think the 433, remains more effective when combined with other systems, preferably the 442, but if sabella sees fit the 532... i prefer the 442...

4. if sabella changes systems. the changing in systems during a game makes it more difficult to play against us... it is like running fast always, versus accelerating...you start with a 532, change at half time to a 433 and the other team that got used to controlling you, now cannot do it...




travis
(Japan)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:26 AM
0
it's still at the early stage of the world cup. we should not make any assumption about the whole team performance, they still have 2 more games, they should secure their place in the 2nd round earlier, must beat iran.

argentina was bad against bosnia, infact it is a really bad game, i never expected that. i don't like sabella changing formation quite regularly.

our major player don't perform, nervous maybe?
- maria
- kun
- messi

higuain should start early to gain his fitness, he's gained weight and slow nowadays, apart from his great one on one with messi, nothing to talk about him.

gago is shining.
rojo show off a bit with his clearance in the 2nd half infront of the goal, but never stop running which is good, i can see he score a goal maybe? haha
garay great as always.
fede hmm, sometimes he's good.
zaba create absolutely nothing when he goes up, waste too many balls, he should stay at the back, maybe it's not his time yet.
romero show some courage and good mentality, i don't think it's really his fault alone about the bosnia goal, he perform well around 80 minutes.

messi goal is absolutely stunning, i never saw his reaction after scores like that before, ever, anyone? it's like that goal have lifted all the weight on his shoulder. this is a good thing. his face turns red which mean that goal means a lot to him. see the way mascherano grab him?? that goal kind of lift up the spirit of this whole team, especially messi team mates since 2010.

we can see clear about argentina in this world cup after the group stage finish. as for now, lets hope they do so well in the last 2 matches.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:12 AM
0
Argy lover why are you pessimistic , the team was fine in the second half and it is the first game , have you seen how other so called big teams performed , some of you should relax , our biggest worry was defense and they did well , the attackers will get into rhythm it is only the first game , so you need to chill man


Lucas
(Australia)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:11 AM
0
who really cares what you think Arglover ...... sounds like your ful of it


Volante
(United States)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:11 AM
0
Good idea to win money is to bet on teams kidult is predicting to lose.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 6/17/2014 at 12:00 AM
0
When a player is bigger than a national team you shouldn't expect them to win anything.
Angel Di Maria thibks he is undisputed starter, thTs why he could afford to perform that badly, If Sabella had the balls to drop or sub him he would be a much better performwr for Argentina.
Its really unfortunate that after a horrible performance Luo el Messi talks about Barcelona linked with Higuain or whatever shit it is!
My prediction:Another quarter final exit for Argentina.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 10:34 PM
0
Sabella will use 4-3-3 untill quarters after that 4-4-2 will be the system, he won't take risk against big teams , 4-4-2 is better then 5-3-2 one more midfielder like Ricky or Perez won't undermine our attack and will strengthen our midfield there for protecting the defense


guled
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 10:31 PM
0
Some great games today, I am glad Germany won't be in our bracket, also the USA has a big chance to reach last 16


gabo
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 9:42 PM
0
@theophilos: I don't think a 4-3-1-2 would work either. If you're thinking of Messi as the playmaker behind two strikers, that won't work! he does not like that position. His best moves come from the sides, he does not like to go straight at a defender unless he really has too! and to be honest, he is not the best when it comes to passing and distributing the ball. his genius is elsewhere.

And if you're thinking of bringing Alvarez behind Messi/Aguero, that would be a big change. It will come at the expense of sitting out Higuain. and more importantly, the system is not tested properly. it's one thing to try it out in a friendly, it's another thing to win a world cup with it. That should at best remain a plan B.





Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 9:14 PM
2
@Kidult..you got it wrong again...Your prediction of Ghana topping the group completely turning into a 'joke..may be they will be "bottoming' the group..good luck for next prediction..:)

I thought Ghana will come second...may be i am also wrong here..!


snjv
(Nepal)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 9:03 PM
0
How people on here be so opposite to realistic. We didn't play well and that's a truth. If we play like that, it'll be difficult to go past even the second round.

We are Argentina fan and we deserve to call it bad when there is, Anxiety, Nervousness , Humidity...Why these things happens to only Argentina ?

Germany,Netherland,France,Italy,England were never anxious and they have not Messi,Higuain,Di Maria,Aguero type of player on their squad.

I see we need confidence on ourselves rather than the situation and environment in Brazil, they are only excuses.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 8:58 PM
0
el principe, if what you say is true then that's a great thing.

Did you see how he was chasing the ball down after he scored, he had a taste and wanted more.

ARG needs a great performance on Saturday to shut all the detractors up again, I know its like its never ending, ARG won but, Messi scored a spectacular goal but, they played much better in the 2nd half but but butttt



snjv
(Nepal)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 8:57 PM
0
Now I can predict three quarter finals,
1) Netherland vs Italy
2) Brazil vs Colombia
3) France vs Germany
Mark this status. France,Brazil and Italy are semi finalists along with Argentina. Semi Final will be between Argentina vs Italy and France vs Brazil, Anything can happen thereafter..


theophilos
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 8:33 PM
0
Messi basically called out Sabella on the 5-3-2 formation today. At this point Pope Francis has a better chance of becoming the leader of the ISIS in Iraq then Sabella using that system again.

Question. Does anyone think a 4-3-1-2 system consisting of the traditional back 4 plus, gago, mascherano, di maria in the middle and enzo perez behind messi and higuain/aguero would work and solve any issues regarding fluidity and defensive stability?


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 8:30 PM
1
http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/encantaria_0_1157884564.html

Messi on Higuain moving to Barca for 40 million Euro, "He is one of the best strikers in the world, we would work well."

Messi wants him! Go out Alexis, go back to Italy! Higuain is coming!

It seems that the rumor is serious since goal.com and ole.com.ar both report it.

Messi also said in interview that we are Argentina, we don't care about the opponents. It is like he's giving a message to Sabella not to change the tactic. He seems to enjoy 4-3-3 a lot as he said that 4-3-3 is the tactic used in WCQ, friendlies, and others.

He said he played how he likes in the second half, although he admits that the team performance was not that good overall.

He is also impressed with Gago distribution in the first game.


Poto
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 7:54 PM
0
C'mon usa lets go.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 7:16 PM
0
they will play to their highest potential in deep knockout stages... they will top the group if they play with 70% of their potential.. playing 100% at the group stages has never produced any Champion and germany is the most perfect example...


claudiolopez77
(Kenya)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 7:06 PM
0
@ TheThinker--I'm just speaking from what I've seen so far. I know Arg can beat any team but the big question is will they show the spirit and desire that's needed to do so?

As an Arg supporter, I hope they do play to their highest potential. Nothing will make me happy than seeing Messi lifting the golden cup. But I'm very much in doubt.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 6:59 PM
1
@claudiolopez77-- Well you seem overwhelmed by this german win that you are beginning to question our team's ability??? germany have won 0 trophies in the last 18 years and they always reach the semifinals and they always win big in group stages.. i saw nothing different in this german team,, they played the same way in 2010 and they got the same 4-0 victory..

We have come a Long Long way from 2010... Messi has found his groove in the NT and that is the biggest improvement.. you don't see that???? maybe you didn't see argentina's match... spain and italy won the world cup playing terrible football in their opening games... at least we won,, we have room for improvements...

and don't worry,, Germany won't face Argentina in this WC... Brazil will rip them apart in the semifinals...


claudiolopez77
(Kenya)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 6:56 PM
0
So I'm not playing the devil's advocate here but was just thinking what the scoreline would be if we met Germany again at any moment in this tournament.

I have to say Germany lacked experience in 2010 and we know what they did. This lot of Ger players is much much better than 2010 while I honestly do not think we have shown any improvement from the last WC.

This is exactly what happened in the last Copa America, our first match was such an abysmal performance and we all hoped as the tournament progressed we'll get better. It never happened.

I hope that we really play to our potential because with the group of players we have and the crowd we can surely do much better that what we displayed yesterday.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 6:17 PM
0
Asamoah Gyan is one of my favorite players... Hoping that he would repeat his 2010 heroics... Never liked USA and i always had a soft spot for any african teams...


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 6:12 PM
0
I like American jersey. It's beautiful. I hope USA or Ghana will finish second. Maybe USA.


DD
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:55 PM
0
I would like to give one half each to Huguain & Lavezzi. Perz and Ricky deserves 20-20 minutes of playing time as well. 4-3-3 would be a perfect way to start & then after getting a comfortable lead, we can experiment with a 4-4-2 to test out the midfielders on the bench. We should win it comfortably. The bigger the margin is the better it is. I would expect Messi to be on the score-sheet at least twice.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:53 PM
0
Whatever happened to Portugal's solid defense?

and ZeGermans defense wasn't as strong as we anticipated either.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:52 PM
0
I want as many goals as possible


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:50 PM
0
no need to win by 7-0... a 3-0 win would be perfect..

Two golazos from messi and one from Higuain...

the Brazilians will also expect more magic from messi as today the Ballon D'or Winner has flopped completely...


Akash
(Suriname)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:48 PM
0
Who doesn't like the 4-3-3 with fantastic 4. But against teams like Brasil and Germany we will need the famous "Equilibrio"


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:48 PM
0
We gonna beat them into the ground.


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:41 PM
0
As many of you said, if Argentina doesn't win big against Iran doubts will start and confidence will go down.

Hopefully we win it just right, not too much though.

Higuain and Messi with 2 goals each and maybe a goal from Di Maria.


Akash
(Suriname)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:23 PM
0
Now in press conference:

Messi "Soy de la idea de mantener el sistema. Somos Argentina y tenemos que fijarnos en nosotros".

It can't get any clearer. Messi doesn't like the 5-3-2


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 5:01 PM
0
Iran will play with 10-0-0 against us... but argentina's 4-3-3 can rip them apart easily..

Iran vs Nigeria was the worst game in this WC... when the game ended,, boos were coming from every corner of the stadium... Brazilians want to see flair induced attacking football and not this park the bus sluggish football..


Akash
(Suriname)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:59 PM
0
@el principe I also hope that they listen to Sabella otherwise....


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:58 PM
0
Higuain can defend, he showed it time and time again with Napoli last season..When Higgy is 100% fit he will be working hard for the team..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:56 PM
0
Sabella should not hold back against Iran..I mean, I want to see the team at full speed vs Iran..No more experimenting please..


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:55 PM
0
I agree Akash. When I watched Germany today, 9 players were defending.

The fantastic four normally have 7 players defending. That's not enough. AT least one of Aguero or Higuain must help the D.

However, I saw yesterday Higuain helping the defense a bit. Aguero and Messi did not. Maybe they were too tired, but Higuain did on the left side occasionally. I hope Sabella plays them and tell them to play D.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:54 PM
0
Argentina is just one win away from the second round..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:53 PM
0
Iran formation vs Argentina 7-2-1..lol


Alex
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:52 PM
0
So a tie between Iran and Nigeria is best for us no?


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:51 PM
0
Next game: Fantastic four vs. park the bus Iran.


Akash
(Suriname)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:51 PM
0
The BIG problem with our 4-3-3 is that neither Aguero nor Messi nor Higuain (like to) help defend. Mascherano was very angry in the second half because of this.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:44 PM
0
Kid/Basanta you are right Enyeama is probablu top 5 goal keepers going into this worldcup I saw Mexico play vs them last time and their goalie saved them like 5 times.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:42 PM
0
The goalkeeper was the only reason Argentina did not defeat Nigeria by like 6 goals in 2010, denying Messi a sure hat trick..Nigeria defense is not good..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:39 PM
0
Bosnia is a better team than Nigeria with more discipline professional players throughout there squad.Bosnia defeat Ivory Coast a few weeks back..Bosnia will place second in the group and I see them beating whoever they meet in the second round.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:38 PM
0
My original dark Horse were Nigeria and Japan but after the first round I see how good Ivory Coast and Bosnia are. My last dark horse is Algeria I think they can beat Russia and South Korea.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:38 PM
1
This Iran Nigeria is so far the worst match in the World Cup. I would rather read all news about Higuain to Barca rumor.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:31 PM
0
@Shafat,

Actually I'm the one who said Croatia is better than Bosnia,better in terms of individual players.But Bosnia is more physical and compact.I also concluded that there won't be much difference between two teams..And I'm not changing my view on this :)

@ all,

Can't we just talk about football? If you do not agree with someone just tell him why.There is no need of unnecessary fights with offensive words.



el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:29 PM
0
Remember guys, this World Cup have very few surprises so far. The better teams always beat the worse. I can't remember any World Cup with fewer surprises than this so far. Just Costa Rica and Netherlands so far pretty much.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:26 PM
0
Nigeria never look good, but we can never win more than 2 goals margin against them in any tournament including Olympics. They are just resilient. I say either them or Bosnia finish second.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:09 PM
0
Ha ha ha... Nigeria... Ha ha ha... I wish they finish last in de group... Mikel is their #10 n victor moses deir star attacker... Hell...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 4:01 PM
0
Shafat: please, if you're going to have a conversation with me, please be more polite friend..

When did I say Croatia was better than Bosnia?wasn't Croatia the same team that had to went through a UEFA playoffs while Bosnia was top of their group scoring tons of goals?

Yea, I acknowledge saying Portugal would win or tie Germany, that was the only prediction I got wrong so far..


joesoccers
(Canada)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:59 PM
0
argentina in the second half played some incredible football.

the speed of the argentina fowards, especially messi and dimaria, the 4-5 touches up the pitch from their own 18 yard box to the bosnian goal were technical feats of football brilliance, the ball was gliding all up the pitch in a fluid direct motion past the bosian defence.

the only thing they should do a little bit more of is shoot from the outside to draw the defence away from their box and open up some more room.

right now, they're trying to score all their goals from the penalty spot and running out of room.

shooting a little more will open up space in the opposition box to run into.

overall, when the fowards start clicking a little more, this offensive is going to the most beautiful and impressive football to watch in the world cup.

the 5-3-2 is to combat counter attacking teams, not park the bus teams.



The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:58 PM
1
There is a difference in being critical and being plain negative... Where was Messi selfish yesterday??? it was clear that he was not playing well in the first half due to sabella's stupidity of 5-3-2... in the second half,, Messi was only one who constantly threatened bosnian defense and rightfully so,, scored a wonder goal.. He wasn't at his vintage best because of sabella caged him in the first half... when the team needed him the MOST,, he delivered and that is what really matters..

Insulting a fan's country of birth will not get you any respect... you worry about your dutch,, they are the only team in history to get to 3 WC finals and win 0 WC... I hope the Italians rips apart your overrated arrogant team...


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:58 PM
0
---fern---garay--basanta----
zab----biglia--masch----dimar
-----------messi---------------
-------hig---------kun-----------

hardly weak !!!!!!

---demi--fern---garay-----
zab----gago-masch---rojo
----------dimaria-----------
------messi----higuain------

hardly weak stop blaming the formation

LOOK @ HOLLAND!!!!


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:56 PM
0
Shafat: That was so lame..I'm no CR fan but what was that? Low is one nasty guy, always picking his nose then eating his bogger..


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:56 PM
2
kidult , you are full of shit.everyone is over rated according to you.

You say croatia is better than bosnia now you changed your tune.

You said 100 times portugal would either win or draw germany . you say stuffs like these all the times. Say something logically for once.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:54 PM
0
The thinker ; that was indecent.

and Richard i agree with some of your points. But kids here can't take criticisms chin up. bunch of kitties.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:53 PM
0
Nigeria is so overrated, the worse African team at the world cup..I hope Iran win this game..Nigeria only play decent in African cup of nations, other than that, they struggled in games be it world cup or friendlies..

0-0 vs Scotland

2 - 1 lost vs USA

All leading up to this world cup..


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:51 PM
0
guys watch this. How jogi Low destroyed cristiano in the sideline.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/germany-manager-jogi-low-picked-his-nose-seconds-before-shaking-cristiano-ronaldos-hand-vine/


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:49 PM
0
iran could nick this 1-0


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:46 PM
0
it wasnt 532 being the problem it was maxi-dimarias performance and messi laziness we were one nil up in 2 minutes they just fell asleep

i wouldnt call 532/352 a issue with the players we have sabella protected the squad playing it no need to wear out top players or risk injuries

i new e would start the competion playing it and change mid way i said that all along BOSNIA WERE PLAYING FOR THERE LIVES


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:46 PM
0
Nigeria is not looking physical as of bosnians... Bosnians were more tall n stiff... Has more pace, thatz all, but wont b a threat for us... Ivory coast is de best african team dis WC imo....


Batigol9
(Estonia)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:38 PM
1
@Richard

Yes, this is the main problem in this forum. Some particular guys praise everything Argentina do, not realistic at all. But world needs these guys as well :)


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:34 PM
0
Richard: I call it as it is good sir and not a problem at all.
I was not allowed to call my kids Diego or Leo and have had to go for Marco (2.5 years old)and Savannah-lee(5 years old) but I do have pets named after players overt he years.

Richard what did you call your kids if I can ask?


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:27 PM
1
Thanks Pablo! I appreciate your post


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:27 PM
0
we shall see a lot more of messi etc dont worryabout that , only thing worrys me is too much negativity creating nervs

argentina look explosive are first game was are weakest line up - the fact we played big players like messi-kun-dimaria


i hope bosnia have a good showing here on out there a good side ,love to see them play germany or other bigger sides later on


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:24 PM
0
iran look featherweght vs nigerians heavy weght but both look average


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:19 PM
1
Richard: you have been an blue and white supporter for a long time and myself I don't question your support at all and thank you for your very insightful, constructive and intelligent posts over the years.


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:10 PM
2
Maybe some bloggers should go to the Bangladesh blog. Oh wait they did not qualify...

Stop accusing of not being an albiceleste fan. I am. Even my kids are named after Argentine players. I am just critical, not some idiot who gives a ten for yesterdays performance. We all know Messi can do much better. A ten for yesterdays performance is insane, like there is no room for improvement...

Messi's goal was brilliant. Let's hope we see more of the old Messi next time.


tamthebam
(Scotland)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 3:03 PM
0
Sabella's brainfart didn't help the players! By going 532, I think he transmitted doubt and confusion to his team. Don't get me wrong though, the players' application and attitude left a lot to be desired.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 2:57 PM
0
For me the worst of the game yesterday in the second half was Aguero. He was totally lost. He tried to do too much. It's like he was dying to prove something.
I know he will improve though.

Gago was the best for me along with Messi yesterday. He is a must start. Higuain was not bad considering it was his first game since May 3rd or something.

Talking about Higuain:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2014/06/16/4886955/higuain-it-would-be-a-great-pleasure-to-play-with-messi-at?ICID=HP_HN_HP_RI_0_3

Barcelona want him and he said publicly that he wants to play with Messi. Imagine if he is the guy that replaces Alexis Sanchez and team up with Messi and Neymar upfront... I would be happy with that.

Higuain seems to want to take revenge on Real Madrid who abused him.



outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 2:49 PM
0
Sabella will play against Iran our best 433 with Higuain and Gago - no doubt. We will scored a few goals with good cooperation our offense I think. But I'm afraid that he won't play with the same players against Nigeria and he upset team again. We must play consistently the same team. Because... For example: how is cooperation and chemistry between Aguero and Higuain for now? There's no chemistry. None. Even Messi and Aguero looks like aliens each other yesterday.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 2:48 PM
0
luckily for sabella,, he has games against Iran and Nigeria to fully establish 4-3-3 and also experiment on which formation he would switch when the team leads by more than two goals so that the team doesn't concede any goals... He will never switch to 5-3-2 that is for sure,, he said it in the interview... if he solves that tactical problem in these two games,, then argentina will be at it's best...

I just hope that sabella doesn't get scared anymore... He has Messi in his squad,, he can take on any team in this WC...


Deb
(India)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 2:47 PM
1
@The Thinker: Check your words, my friend.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 2:45 PM
0
Now i really wish to see simeone as our coach as soon as possible... He bring out de 110% out of everyone... Make everyone work hard...

*** Richard now seem like dutch fans association marketing executive... Sorry, if u have real love to argentine football. ***


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/16/2014 at 2:38 PM
1
I believe Sabella is a good coach. Better than Batista and Maradona, however there is one thing I am concerned about him. When you look at his coaching career resume, he never coached STRONG teams. He just coached a mediocre team or a team with limited talented players like Estudiantes for example who had a superstar who were already 79 or 83 (kinda forgot) year old named Juan Veron.

Different from Bianchi or Basile or Passarella who had the luxury of coaching Boca or River when they were normally full of star players.

I am not saying that Sabella is inferior, but the fact that he lacked of confidence in the first game of the WC by playing 5-3-2 against the so so Bosnia showed that in the back of his mind he must have thought that what worked for the smaller team (like his Estudiantes) would work for the big team (like Argentina).

Some coaches we know are good at coaching smaller teams. It is like their specialty. The best example is Manuel Pellegrini. Before moving to Manchester City, he was always amazing whenever coaching mediocre clubs like Villarreal or Malaga. He brought both teams to the CL.