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Posted by Roy Nemer (Roy Nemer) Wednesday, June 04, 2014 Go To Comments

Lionel MESSI and Maxi RODRIGUEZ comment

Lionel MESSI and Maxi RODRIGUEZ spoke following Argentina's 3-0 win against Trinidad and Tobago. Here's what MESSI had to say:

"The important thing is we finished the match without any injuries. Our rivals in our group will play like this, they will stay back. People know I'm close with Ever but it was the coach's decision and we have to understand it."

Maxi RODRIGUEZ:
"I'm proud to be taking part in my third World Cup, but I'm enjoying it as if it was my first. If there's anything I learned in my career is that you have to keep fighting. You have to stay calm. It's a team that has to win the World Cup and we have to go in with that mentality."




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Suharta
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/10/2014 at 5:29 AM
0
Really We can't wait... we want to see the team in the field and also see the win... best wishes to win the world cup (champion).


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 6/8/2014 at 2:48 AM
0
i wanted 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 against Slovenia to test our Midfielders...as i mentioned below. And Sabella used both..:)


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 6/7/2014 at 6:24 AM
0
Looking forward to seeing Messi, Aguero and Di Maria linking up tonight. I've not seen these guys play together in while. I didn't watch the Romania game in full, plus the timing of that game was bad since most players were focused on winning titles for clubs.
I still don't expect the guys to play at the high level of our match vs Uruguay,Paraguay at home, Chile and Sweden away yet. But we might see a hint of high level football we have become accustomed to recently.

VAMOS VAMOS!


Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 6/7/2014 at 5:42 AM
0
Our team argie need to increase in certain areas:- Romero- lack of matches he needs to start every friendly(1 to remain) and in training sabella should use him in second choice team so he get more and more ball to face messi, maria, kun and higuain's ball. Messi should encourage him in training too.. Zabaleta- should increase link up with messi and higuain in right sided area of pitch, he should forget how he plays for man city coz national level is different. We have messi and higuain to link up front so he should be able to diffend in hid area, link up with maxi later is how the game going on. Zabaleta chemistry with ff and garay with masce is important than linking with forward line. He should know high pacy epl is different than argie in s. american soil. B b. FF- he is one of the best diffender in trapping offside track but should do alot of homework if he meets pacy forwards like cr7, iniesta, neymar/hulk and even dzeko and many more, i am pleased with his timing in trackling but his pace suffers me alot so he should have good communication with romero and garay also fill the gap when zabaleta is not available in right position. Garay- he is only one sweeper we have in whole 23 man squad. Demi is slow but garay prefer is only because of his commitment and pace. In benfica he is handled by luicao so he should be matured enough to deal opponent. He should have minded himself that he is master of argie diffend and avoid pressure . Rojo- forget about critics and boos and even forget about playing with messi. His diffensive avily is descent /good but should increase good linking up with maria as marcelo. Mascerano:- the warrior and best diffencive midfielder in world . I know masce is preety good in taking ball forward and long crosses. He should increase himself keeping faith in himself to linking forwards. Long shot and box to box pass is what we wants from him. Parking bus with masce is not only sollution. Gago- linking with messi is not only way. Look maria, higuin and kun moments, straight pass to messi is not the way infact we wants his killing passes avility. Di maria-best crosses player, awesome galactico but in argie we want him not to be messi and do not copy his dribblings. Play your natural game and silent the critics. Messi- the burden of messi is to be messi. Play freely with natural game. Sabella tacticts suits you. Deep mid to forward is not your game hope sabella uses him false nine or supportive stricker to higuain/ kun. I hate messi playing as a winger . Attacking mid is what we want. Think nation more than scoring ownself. Be kind to low profile argie players and support them, hug them.his this character can enchance the power of other members too. The world best player should play his natural game. Higuain- good supporter in forward line. Lacks some pacy football but superb finisher. Ex madrid star should increase his avility in air , thats the most important wealth of a solo strickers. Kun- involves in game more than any argie player even than messi. He should avoid pressure and decrease his dribbling . Long shot and outstanding goal machine should help maria during winging areas. His pacy football harms later. He should know football is a marathon starts slow finish with high pace


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:50 PM
3
@Aslam, good analysis however I have one thing to add; 4 out of those 6 goals that Nigeria scored came from that joke of a friendly game where Batista used Argentina's C team AFTER he told them that non of them are going into copa america thus removing the motivation factor from an already inexperienced group of players!!
Subsequently when Argentina used their proper squad (Sabella's second game in charge) Argentina dominated the game and the score was 3-1
With that being said, all the world cup games against Nigeria were close and they are an athletic, talented side so I don't expect them to be pushovers either.

As for Maradona, well he was the quintessential Argentine enganche and playmaking was arguably his strongest asset.
He assisted 5 goals in 86, 4 out of Argentina's 5 total goals in 1990 and set up Cannigia's goal against Italy and let's not forget that sublime pass to Cannigia that put the albicelestes at 2-1 over Nigeria in 94.
At club level Diego averaged at 16 assists (and set up an average of 4-5 others) per season and we shouldn't forget that he played in Seria A when the league was at it's zenith and goals were hard to come by.
To me Maradona and Laudrup were the best playmakers that ever lived, nuff said!

Lastly about Brazil and Germany, well I just watched the games and I have say that Brazil are looking good as usual, compact and alert but I feel that the brazilian crowd will be their greatest enemy! Booing your team after 20 minutes of no goals isn't the way to go; I personally feel that if you don't like how the game is going, just get up and walk out, don't jeer your countrymen because that's just tacky!

Germany have an incredible attacking midfield but defensively they have similar problems to Argentina in the sense that their mind and mentality is so fixated on attacking that defensive holes inevitably start to appear.
I feel that a defensively precocious team like France or Russia can beat them in the QF if it came to that.
I sincerely hope that Sabella will focus more on balancing the team rather than exploiting all of it's attacking resources just because he can.



maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 4:26 PM
1
maradna is the greatest playmaker that ever lived NOT A PLAYMAKER LOL thats like sying shit dont stink


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 4:22 PM
0
is it bigger than stations ass in bill and ted maybe hulk has a twin and they really are station from bill and ted

station ass


Alam
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:23 PM
1
SABELLA TACTICAL ACUMEN IS GOING TO BECOME THE KEY PART IN MY WORLD CUP VIEW.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:13 PM
1
Watching Brasil v Serbia now. Hulk's ass is incredible. I mean how big is that thing ? Goshhh

I bet his ass is even bigger than a typical srilankan elephant's booty.

Well good for us . Messi aguero and Co. would enjoy kickin dat big ass in the maracana.


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:05 PM
1
Yes we all talk about possible Argentina's final against Brazil or Germany, a possible Semi against Spain etc..I hope we will beat them and wins the WC. But i am going for a stat check for group stage...!

Bosnia: Most predict they will come second in the group. We have 100 % record against them. Winning both games.
Argentina Vs Bosnia: 2 Match => Win 2

Note: Bosnia playing good football lately. Even though we won against them 2-0 in 2013 Nov, they are still a dangerous side to play against.

Nigeria: Some predict they will come Second. Argentina has good stat against them too losing just one in 6 games played.
Argentina Vs Nigeria: 6 Match => Win 4 Draw 1 Lose 1

Note: Important to note that we scored just 8 (??) goals in those 6 matches and conceded 6 goals..! We always struggled against physical game of Nigeria..!

Iran: Almost all predict them to be last in the group. But Argentina has played them just one game and it was draw..!!!
Argentina Vs Iran: 1 Match => Draw 1
Note: Iran is best placed Asian side in FIFA ranking ( i know that FIFA ranking is little joke) and they conceded just 2 goals in the last round of Asian qualification...! They defeated Korea home and away.

In football anything can happen. Argentina is in group ?? Stat shows not that easy..!


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:03 PM
0
Ltz watch our final opponents' game...


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 2:59 PM
0
Mafioso is right about the energy conserving aspect but its also important to face a strong opponent. It negates the fear of the players in the later stages and helps to gain confidence.

I would rather play france and switzerland anyday than team like Ecuador in the 2nd round. Although this france team is plenty physical but nothing compared to ecuador.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 2:56 PM
0
@rup,

I think this things are explained many times by El Principe.It is better to face easy opponents at early stage than a ex-WC champion.It will saves energy for later stages of WC.And it matters.

It is not like that I think France will beat us if we face them at 2nd round.But it is better to avoid an ex-WC winner.Bigger the name,bigger the pressure and more media distraction for the players and manager.It is better we gain rhythm steadily.

Look back to 1998 wc,We met England at 2nd round.We won but it was a tough and intense match.we got eliminated by Holland in penalty shootout at the very
next match.


Had we faced a weaker team,players would be much more fresh mentally and physically to face Holland.Because it would take less effort to beat the opponent at 2nd round.


uday
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 2:48 PM
0
@el principe ..........yes but most of the guys follow cricket


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 2:03 PM
3
@The Thinker

Man if you say Maradona is NOT playmaker. Enough said. I am done with the discussion. You obviously know football, but not Maradona.


bunchowhero
(Hong Kong)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 1:30 PM
0
Messi's poor performance can be explained Tata's management, since his come back, most of the time he played on the right as the coach preferred to use Fabregas as the false 9. Besides, Tata wanted Barca to play a more direct football with less pass, as a result Messi and other attackers could not receive ball in the best situation. We saw that Messi spent lot of time to struggle with other defenders at the reception of the long passes. He was too isolated to do any combination with other players.

Making Messi play right winger with no control on the game, it's impossible to make use of the full potential of Messi. I think he was a little bit lost too in this system and that's why we saw him walking during the games. Since many years, Barca's success has been based on short pass initiated by Xavi-Iniesta-Messi, 1-2 between players, players keeping short distance between each other, high-volume pressing of the 2 wingers and Messi's natural dribbling skill. All those qualities were vanished this season. Hope that Luis Enrique can restore these values.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 1:29 PM
0
elprincipe.. Jhan Cruyff is amongst the best 5 not Beckenbour, Dunno if I spilled it right.
Messi is on hold for me, until he proves it in the WC.

It goes this way:
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff
Here could be Zaidan of Ronaldo or Di Stifano, though he was a club player!!

Messi is on hold for me, he could be 1st or second to diego!

For me, honestly, there will never be better than Maradona in this game!

Now every nation has one to be claimed as their, only Argentina has two. thats a surplus by itself!


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:27 PM
1
@el principe-- well you didn't watch that match that is for sure.. Zidane played his greatest match in his career and you give him no credit???

You obviously don't know what type of player zidane is.. Maradona was an attacking midfielder who would wreak havoc in opposition's defense and also could play as a second striker.. Ronaldinho is a player who played in Maradona's position not Zidane.. Zidane was always a pure playmaker who didn't tear apart defenses but rather he destabilized them through his incisive passing and finding box of spaces for his teammates.. in that respect,, nobody is greater than Zidane but as a player overall Maradona is far greater than Zidane.. Zidane is the role model for pure playmakers like Riquelme who tried to follow his style..

Your friend also doesn't know shit about Zidane... In 2004,, Zidane was voted as the greatest European player in history in a UEFA jubilee poll ahead of Cryuff,Van Basten and Beckenbeur.. are you saying me that the greatest European player in history doesn't deserve a place in top 5??? Zidane has won every single title in his illustrious career and he was vastly influential in every team he played... He also scored the greatest goal in CL history in the 2002,, scoring from a weaker foot volley which won Madrid their 9th CL...

Zidane is an unique player in history and he deserves respect from every corner.. Saying that he doesn't belong in top 10 is the most ignorant thing a football fan can say...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:20 PM
0
Messi vs Trinidad and Tobago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC1V-AzVGSo


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:15 PM
0
elpipita: apology accepted, that was very thoughtful. To understand my point of view better, you can re watch that one on one tackle from the highlight, and you will know what I mean. I wasn't criticizing the recovery maneuver and what happened after that.....just dealing with that situation and first reaction from a player was like facing Cassillas.


joesoccers
(Canada)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:07 PM
1
why does messi score 1-3 goals a game for barcelona, and with argentina, it's a different story.

i think it's because of the support he has in barcelona, not the players, but support, plus, messi is more of a tactical, team player, than an individual take on the world player.

and that's why neymar isn't doing that good at barcelona.

that doesn't mean he can't be one.

when argentina plays as 11 individuals, messi is out in no mans land.

he needs, the tactical support, the organized plays and touches to break into the box and score.


when messi scores, it's usually 4-5 guys involved in the play, but he still scores allot of individual goals.

a perfect example was during the trinidad and tobago game, messi touched the ball to perez at the edge of the box and sprinted inside the box and was wide open for the return pass, like he has done hundreds of times when playing for barcelona, instead, perez received the ball, didn't know what to do, and took a bad, weak shot towards goal that missed the net.

if that was the world cup final, it could have been the winning goal.

but messi is a great player, great players adapt to any situation, it just takes time and games.

plus, every argentina coach that comes in, changes everything the previous coach has done, it's like starting over every coach change.

there's no consistency to build on. messi and the team have to start each time from scratch.

that's afa's fault, for not having a clear goal, tactics and strategy for every coach to follow and build and add on too.

simeone would have been the best choice, he's a warrior, perfect for these types of situations and would have built the best team possible and got them to play the best possible.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:01 PM
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@joesoccers: fantastic post and analysis.....can't agree more.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:55 AM
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arg2014 You're so bias towards the Argentina team..So you said you evaluated both games that Argentina and Brazil played yet you only can come on here and say Argentina made countless of miss passes while Brazil did everything perfect? You're best man, the expert in chief..Brazil gave away the ball countless of time in the first 25 minutes and they made a lot of unforced errors too..It was when Neymar got the free-kick Brazil finally started to dominated the game because we all know little Panama was never going to mount a come back after going a goal down.For the first 25 minutes Panama was better than Brazil, Brazil did not create a single chance until the Neymar free-kick go back and watch the game its on.

http://www.matchhighlight.com/


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:48 AM
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@Rup & Uday

I thought there were more than 1 billion of people in India, why just you two join this site? A lot of them must be Argentina fans. Tell others to join :p


vimal
(Malaysia)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:47 AM
0
http://www.supersport.com/football/super-eagles/news/140606/Possible_Palacio_boost_for_Eagles....shiiiitttt...noooo


FCBMessi
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:47 AM
0
Some comments here are really childish!

Just emotional!!!...no brain in it!!!

Panicking won't change anything.

We just need to HOPE for Argentina to win WC 2014 as all fans do the same.

If you have time to read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/the-burden-of-being-messi.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0


maanus
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:45 AM
0
Hi guys .....how are you.....when will start next friendly match


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:44 AM
0
Why people are so afraid of France here, I mean they never beat Argentina at no point that I can remember..lets say France came in second in their group then that means they would have struggled against the likes of Ecuador and Switzerland..Sorry but I don't see France as a big threat to Argentina...


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:40 AM
0
I have read the debate of Brazil vs Argentina squad at the moment. I agree with some folks here who mentioned this is football, you never know: it could be Brazil, it could be Argentina with always the possibility of one underdog team comes from nowhere and steals the trophy.

They are both favorites, but let me tell you something, after watching both playing friendlies, I must admit that Brazil looked better prepared and you get the feeling of "ok, this team will be champions" that was based on set pieces they trained on and some tricks they showed, and more will come.....the chemistry is just right. I honestly still didn't get same feeling when watching Argentina despite playing against a weaker side. I saw players blocking each other paths, some sloppy passes and improper positioning inside the box resulted in missing sitters or finish the rebound ball. So far Argentina didn't show as a complete product, but hopefully this will change in the next friendly or in the real competition.

I also agree with some who mention let Brazil win massively the group games with lots of goals so their game get exposed and their cards are figured by other teams in the knockout stage. Usually teams who start strong and show a huge potential, those the ones who will flop later on when other teams peak at the right time. This is World cup philosophy.

On the other hand Brazil will defeat Mexico easily this time.....Mexico team today is garbage, not same gritty team we used to know.....it will be the easiest game for Brazil. Though I see that Cameroon will give Brazilians some sort of hassle.

Argentina's problem right now and like what analysts indicate on sports net and beinsports is Gago's fitness level. Messi had to drop back and sacrifice his position because Gago wasn't the same midfield commander we used to see.....he has a problem with his form. Argentina has no replacement for Gago yet and that was Sabella's problem for the last 3 years, he couldn't fix. Gago is the key to Argentina's success because the midfield will suffer without a true commander there. Messi will not be a big threat if he plays deep in the midfield and behind 4 players (Di Maria, aguero, Higuain, and Zabaleta). Let's face it, Messi is the best finisher in the team, and should take the final shot....when we say the team was built to support his service, then Messi must be the 2nd striker. What we saw in T&T game the other way around, Messi was taking a supporting role for other strikers who failed to finish sitters. When Messi is playing deep, he will be in the shadow, and he doesn't want that.... the result is a frustrated grumpy Messi and another version of 2010.



rup
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:27 AM
0
uday actualy i am also a new one here previously i wasnt aware of this site lately i came to know abt it and m liking it very much welcome bro


uday
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:25 AM
0
@rup....argentina vs slovenia is being telecasted by sony six...............


rup
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:23 AM
0
thanks uday


uday
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:23 AM
0
Hi guys.....i have been following mundo lately....so i thought as argentina fan i should join and share my opinions.........


rup
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:22 AM
0
@mafioso when you want to be world champions you have to beat the best you cant expect to face easy weaker teams and crowned world champions if we cant beat a weakened france side we dont deserve to be world champions simple as that


uday
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:21 AM
0
@rup. 12:15 IST


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:16 AM
0
What if France become 2nd in the group and meet us in the 2nd round?Despite they have lost ribery,they should do better than Switzerland,I think.


I don't want to face them at 2nd round even if they are weaker than us.They will park the bus and they will do it better than Switzerland.That is a bad news for us.

Ribery's injury has made the possibility of France become 2nd in the group higher.If they get eliminated,that will be much needed good luck for us.But for me,France being 2nd in the group sounds more realistic than elimination.


rup
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 11:12 AM
0
when the slovenia friendly will start?? can anyone tell me that??


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:29 AM
0
I hope you're right Kidult..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:27 AM
1
This actually cement my claim that France wont make it out the group..Guys like Ronaldo is not 100% and no matter how they try to spin Ronaldo injury, he will never recover throughout the world cup..This is not club football where you have time to rest for 3 weeks then come back for the next games...Ronaldo world cup is also in doubt..Costa is also a doubt, he too wont have the time to heal properly in Brazil..The conditions will only make Ronaldo and Costa injuries become worse..People were making fun of Messi but he sacrifice a sure 5th Ballon d O r to recovery properly so that he would be fit and ready for the world cup..


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:19 AM
0
RIbery ruled out of the World Cup!!

http://www.goal.com/en/news/3790/world-cup-2014/2014/06/06/4865071/breaking-news-ribery-ruled-out-of-world-cup?ICID=HP_HN_1


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:11 AM
0
You know Maradona once was asked if he was still playing today, how good would he be compared to today's best players?

He said that he will go to a mediocre team and take that team to beat everyone else.

No other players in the history have that kind of mentality.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:10 AM
0
Stop buying into the media narrative, people. The Argentinean media likes to paint more drama than there is to get people glued to the sets an dubbing papers.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:08 AM
0
I already posted that news dammage7. They said he will miss the Bosnia match due to the injury he picked up. He is iffy for Iran as well, which shouldn't be as big of a deal.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:07 AM
2
I agree with @Richards..I am tired of this whole Messi is not ''HAPPY'' thing..Banega got cut so Messi is not ''happy.'' Messi is not a 4 year old kid for pete sake he needs to grab the world cup by its horn..As I said earlier, All the Argentina players need to embrace each other while singing the national anthem..I was watching them against T&T while the anthem was being played and the players does not look unified around the anthem..As I said earlier on one of my post, I WANT TO SEE EACH AND EVERY PLAYER HOLDING EACH OTHER WITH THERE EYES CLOSE SINGING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM WITH EACH AND EVERY FAN IN THE STADIUM AND NOT SINGING THE ANTHEM LIKE YOU'RE UNINTERESTED OR EITHER A MILLION MILES AWAY FROM THE STADIUM..

People need to lay off Gago, he's been good for Argentina most of the times, Gago is a true South American..If Gago plays the same way in Brazil this summer that he did for Argentina at the 2008 Olympics then all will be good..

This is the one of thing I like about Brazilians, they don't bash there players base on European club form or career..Majority of the players currently on the Brazilian team did not have great season in Europe even domestically Fred and Jo was having a poor season..Guys like Denilson was never a breakout in Europe yet he was one of Brazil main star at the 2002 world cup..I don't care about Gago past career at Real, Roma, Boca, or Valencia as long as Gago play is best with the national shirt I am fine, let club football be what it is..Great club players don't always succeed at the world cup..

You could actually see the improvements in Rojo game in this past match..For all the slack this guy comes under on Mundo, I believe he will be one of Argentina main weapon..Rojo is not the best when it comes to slick plays in and around the 18 yard box but his defending is no doubt fine at the moment..trust me, we need Rojo athleticism at the world cup more than anything else, he's one of our quickest players on the squad going from defense to offense..Rojo will be great and I have no doubt he will be a star at the world cup for Argentina..

On paper Argentina is better than both Brazil and Germany imo. The guys need to get themselves in a tough mental state because being favorites or having big names wont win us the world cup this summer..I want to see every players playing their hearts out on the pitch in Brazil..The good thing going for Sabella, is that he already won the Copa Libertadores final on Brazilian soil with Estudiantes...


rup
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 10:02 AM
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lets see i think when enzo can be the engine of benfica a very good club team then why nt in nt he can do that role quite efficiently


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:56 AM
0
Gago is not there to score. He is there to track back, provide cover, and move the ball up enough so that Leo doesn't have go all the way back to bring it up himself.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:55 AM
0
Bad news - palacios injured for match vs bosnia. grade one ankle strain


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:44 AM
0
Dammage its called youtube.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:36 AM
3
@The thinker & Abs

OK it is OK if your opinion is different from mine. I hate Brazil more than other nations (except England). I hated Ronaldo the fat belly more than I hated CR7 or Ale Del Piero (I was a fan of Fiorentina back then) or I hated AC Milan (the Dutch trio) and Inter (Germany trio), but I am man enough to admit if my "enemy" is good, I'd say they are good.

I don't care what people say, but Ronaldo for me is the greatest #9 ever. In 2006, he was overweight, but he was still a legend and the scariest striker in 2006. He still played a couple of more years before retiring.

You want to know why I said Brazil was over confidence back then in 2006? The fat belly of Ronaldo would answer you. If you are not over confidence, you'd stay in shape, instead of taking everything easy.

Zidane 2006 was his last season before retiring. I am not saying he was in bad form, though.

If you believe Zidane is in top 5 in all time best players. Sorry I STRONGLY disagree with that. He's not even the greatest playmaker ever, how can he make the top 5 list? Not even Ronaldo is among the top 5 best players of all time. Maradona, Pele, Messi, Beckenbauer, Di Stefano. Don't forget about them.

I had argument with a friend of mine who said Zidane is better than Messi. I said a simple statement, "have you ever heard people saying that Zidane is the greatest player of all time?"

He could not answer me.

Messi is already among the greatest. Zidane won't even make all time best 11. The best enganche ever to play in the game is not Zidane, but Diego Armando Maradona. If they both had played in the same era, Maradona would have been a lot more superior.

The only thing Maradona couldn't do what Zidane does is the heading ability.

The things Zidane can't do what Maradona does?

Everything else... you name it.

I might disagree with you. You said Zidane amazing display that got them beat Brazil in 2006, I said, it was Brazil over confidence (fat belly etc) that got them beaten. They enjoyed themselves too much. They think everyone must know that they are the champs.

I compare them to the great Brazilian UFC fighter, Anderson Da Silva. Da Silva was also considered the greatest of all time before he lost badly a several months ago. If you watched the game, not because the opponent (Chris Weidman) was that good good, but it was Anderson Da Silva's over confidence.

That represents Brazil 2006 vs. France in WC 2006.

It's been Brazilian weakness.


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:35 AM
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haha after messi...now people start to bash gago??? i've had enough of this jokes for today...see you guys around.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:34 AM
0
please show me a collection


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:31 AM
0
Dammage what are u talking about hes always been a great assister


dollon
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:27 AM
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THE THINKER BANGLADESH ER VUDAR BETA TUI TO BARZIL ER SAPOTER KHANKER POLA>>>>>MADER CHOD TOR ARGENTINER BLOG A KI.....................


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:23 AM
0
gago can defend but he cant attack and defo cant score


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 9:07 AM
0
In 4-4-2 gago will fit, but in 4-3-3 that too messi, higuain n aguero upfront gago is too risky imo... In de recent friendlies no team split opposition defence like we did imo... The close best team i felt is brazil n they dont even created half de chances we did, they scored goals from half chances, if our finishing was as good as them we wud hav scored atleast 10... But de difference is panama hardly brought ball to brazil penalty box whereas TnT brought ball easily in break to our box... While playing against brazil or germany or england they exploit those space in mid very badly... While playing tournaments we shudnt play like in friendlies, game need to be a little more compact n conservative imo...


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 8:48 AM
0
People just love to pick on Gago's game don't they! This whole "gago can't defend" shtick is a myth! Gago was constantly tracking back againt T&T as he's always done in every game he's played in for the NT.
Dropping Gago out of the squad wouldn't be wise IMO, he has a hand in almost every Argentine counter attack not to mention that he's without a doubt Messi's main (and only) supply line from the midfield.
I believe that against top teams one of either kun or pipita should be dropped in favor of a more defensive player like Enzo or Biglia thus providing space for Gago and Dimaria to do their play-making mojo while Messi & kun/pipita would stay high up the pitch and draw the opponents' defenses back.
In any case I'm not the one who took an average side like Estudiantes and managed to push Barca's best team to it's limit so I'm just gonna sit back and trust Sabella and pray for the best!


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 8:15 AM
0
Jst now watching an arsenal game 2011 or 12 season... Itz damien martinez on goal, is very commanding on air, jumped over 2 or 3 players and took a spectacular catch of a strongly whiped high cross from wing... I think our future on goal is secured... Rulli, this guy.....


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 8:03 AM
0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KefIe0xwD6w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Note: Listen background music carefully...


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 8:03 AM
0
Maxi is one close to being a second striker , he should be a good sub for one of our forwards.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 8:02 AM
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Sure enzo n biglia r de best option, i said "even" maxi or augusto r better than gago...


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:56 AM
0
Pradi, I disagree. For me, Enzo or Biglia. Maxi is more effective in offense than defense.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:45 AM
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I agree zico opinion... Gago is good at holding de ball n kick starting moves from deep but we cant afford him in dis formation, i feel even maxi or augusto at that position protect our back 4 better than him...


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:41 AM
0
:)


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:35 AM
0
I strongly feel this is not de formation n tactics sabella gonna use at WC, we are using this 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 for last some years, and all our possible opponents wud hav made an analysis on that style coz undoubtedly we are de second favourites after brazil... A master tactician like sabella wont stick with this familiar tactics i feel... The number of attacking mids he taken in de squad + both lav n pal can play at wings make me more thinking in that way... 4-4-2 with either kun or hig at bench and wen zaba or rojo miss a 3-5-2 is what i feel is gonna see...


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:31 AM
0
@baker: you said "missi"...:O


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:27 AM
1
There is nothing need to be panic , and this friendlies meant nothing. my point was for the importance of missi playing in false 9.


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:22 AM
0
Zico's belief...

http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/61090_former_brazil_international_zico_believes_argentina___s_attacking_style_leaves_them_vulnerable_defensively.html


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 7:12 AM
0
How funny? We have a lot of Panicos here on Mundo. Messi goes one game without scoring and people are panicking. These are just friendlies.
Personally, I see these friendlies as tune up for matches fitness and sharpness. Also I don't believe Higuain and Kun are carrying knocks. I think the technical team are just playing smart trying to avoid rivals attention. We were already deemed too strong for T & T, even after playing a bad match by our standards, by some reporters. Imagine if we had won 5-0 on wednesday, by now we would have been the focus of the coaches of Bosnia, Iran and Nigeria, even Scolari's spies would be studying our tactics especially the quick breaks and strikers' movements right now. But as it is, it's impossible because that's not how we play usually with Kun and Higuain. I hope we see another less tactic-based approach against Slovenia. I see Sabella as a Machiavellian type-coach in his approach.



Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 6:52 AM
0
Where is Trini Papi. I would love to know his feelings watching that game live.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 6:28 AM
2
I feel that Ghana will have a great WC.. Portugal is an over-hyped imbalanced and they cannot beat this Ghana side which is rich with experience and grit.. Ghana is also better than Belgium and they have a chance to play against us in the quarter final.. they will cause more problems for us than Belgium or Portugal...


fotobirajesh
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 6:16 AM
0
To add to my last post, may I add also that Maradona did his magic in 1986, because that team was groomed completely to get the best out of him. A certain Argentine legend, had to sit on the bench through out, as he was against this idea. I hope you know whom I am talking about.
When you have a special player, you groom the whole team to get the best out of him. If you dont, you just end up blaming your best player, for lack of effort or patriotism or what not-- what a pity.


fotobirajesh
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 6:12 AM
0
@baker - Its interesting your questions and answers on Messi's happiness. Messi would always consider his performance on the Manita game against RM, on 29 Nov10, as one of his best plays, even if he didnt score. He is happy to play and impose himself. It seems its because of all these special Argentine attention on him, he is worried (if at all he is!)if he doesnt score, while playing for Argentina. Here is a stat - posted by somebody else on the net - for Messi's last two seasons with Barca.

Leo Messi 2012/13 vs 2013/14 in Liga:

Key passes: 46 – 75

Dribbles: 122 – 143

Dispossessed: 82 – 68

Turnovers: 41 – 27

Assists: 12 – 11

Goals: 46 – 28.

And most importantly;
Passes *received* by Leo in La Liga:
2013/14: 1649
2012/13: 2004.

That passes received stat points clearly why Messi looked so worried last season. There was a clear plan to get out of Messidependencia, which finally was not that successfull too, but kept Messi out of the main focus. I think He is happy if he is really involved in the attack, doesnt matter if it is through a goal or an assist.

I read the Messi, book by Balague recently, only because I knew this writer is an Espanyol fan and not always very appreciative of Messi and Barca. There are some very good info in that book, hence.

Messi's favourite position is enganche, when he arrived at Barca that is what he told everybody, but he had to wait until Tito became his coach to really play in that spot, and later Pep too. Even before 2010WC, Maradona went to Barca to ask what he wanted and Messi drew up a plan of 4 -3 -1- 2 or 4 -2-3-1 or even 3 - 4 - 3, he being the enganche behind the striker, in all plans. Deigo agreed right away, but we know how Maradona screwed it in the tournament.
Sorry, I am writing this just because of all this negativity around Messi here. If you think, Messi didnt look happy in the friendly, then it must be definitely because he had to appear in the central midfield, not higher up, to receive the ball. He knows very well, he may not score or assist from those positions, and he clearly know how hardly he will be criticized if he doesnt score.

For me, I dont care if Messi score or assist. I will be happy if Argentina wins it. And Messi is our man, even if he is in CM or enganche or as striker. Others just need to support, giving him the ball, or finishing the balls from him, or using the space that is free as at least 3 players will mark him. We have a highly polished Gem with us, make the best use of it.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 5:42 AM
0
Ok, lets sort it out!

There is a logical reason of Messi being dropped deep back to create an attacking opportunity, which is simply, the lack of a creative midfielder!
The only hope we had for that role, was Banega, yes, the young man is creative and Messi likes to play with him.
That is my huge concern on Sabella, he didn't think of freeing up Messi, when his partners aren't on the pitch!
When Kun and pipita play alongside Messi, they keep switching positions up front, therefore, the pressure on the midfield reduces and the role turns to a supporting one.
Now, there could be an answer to add a bit of creativity by trying out Perez or Alvarez next to Di Maria from the start. Then Messi could find his space as a #9 being supported by Maxi and Lavezzi "strictly as a winger".

Missing a creative midfielder or deep lying playmaker would always increase the pressure on Messi and take much more of his energy, which doesn't work in his favor to maintain his energy, especially, through out the matches of knockout stages.




Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 4:58 AM
0
Off Topic: Pochettino will keep Lamela as he refuses all offers for Lamela. Let's see if he can get the best out of him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2649573/Erik-Lamela-Hugo-Lloris-not-sold-Spurs-new-boss-Mauricio-Pochettino-refuses-offers-pair.html


dmjo
(Kenya)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 4:08 AM
0
People must learn to acccept that this is world cup,and always the stars are often tightly marked by defenders,one player or defender would be assigned to watch either messi or ronaldo because they are dangeruos and can do anything with the ball.watch maradona at italia 90.he was not given enough space to create or score goals not even with the weaker teams,the point is messi is the world class player and thats why he is creating space for himself whenever he is playing deep,and he believe in himself that he can take on defenders thats why he is coming back in midfield to collect balls and create chances and space for himself.


cleanball
(Indonesia)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 4:03 AM
0
Everyone is getting excited, Mundo forum is more heat up than the N/T training camp, Messi and friends are watching comedy films. Hence, just relax.

We need a lot of new topic to avoid the dispute arguments and irrelevant comments among ourselves. More training and players pics to raise our confidence and faith for Albiceleste to win the WC.


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:56 AM
1
there is a huge tevez fans here in mundo, and they will always criticize and trash talk about messi.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:54 AM
0
Palacio is possibly out of the match against Bosnia due to the injury he sustained against T&T.

And the pitch at La Plata is garbage. Let's hope Messi does NOT play against Slovenia.


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:54 AM
1
As long as Argentina plays good and wins, I am not worried about Messi goal scoring issue.

And it is not that he is not getting enough chances to score. Goals will come naturally. Creating chances is the first and most important step.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:53 AM
0
The games are yet to start let us see what happens at the World Cup then we can talk


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:45 AM
1
Jst getting annoyed for messi not scoring, he wont become top scorer etc are wasteful imo... What we need is argentina to win wc not messi to win golden boot, no matter who score... And its a big ask for a continously supply of balls from a 3 men mid of di maria-masche-gago, i m sure messi will b forced to drop back against most of de opponents... Playing behind 2 strikers his primary duty is creating chances to men upfront, scoring goal alone is only secondary... But de point of concern for me is whether he is comfortable playing in that position... Playing in that position require non stop contribution n involvement in de game, de whole 90 mins, de work rate should be very high, which he is not that much used to in his club level, that is one of de reason he is not in de same level at barca when playing for NT in previous times... When quickly changing this role may cause fatigue n uncomfortable n may be impossibe to deliver continously for 90 mins... That is something need to be worked out i feel...


guled
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:40 AM
0
Is this a forum to support argentina or this is goal.com, I am surprised of the negetivity towards messi, messi never talked about false 9 position or what ever it is ,but some people here are blaming him even going as far as calling him in patriotic , don't you know messi had a chance to play for Spain and chose argentina becouse he likes his country, we lost the last World Cup becouse of maradona idiocy , he was great player but a terrible coach, tevez and maradona him self would like messi to fail, it is about ego maradona doesn't want messi to surpress him, and tevez issue we all know the reason he would like messi failure, but unfortunetly for them they won't get their wish this time , Lionel messi will have the last lough, messi is very shy indivual he is not arrogant like some other players , so there is no way to dislike messi for his personality , any one who is hating on Leo need mental check up , messi is football , if you don't like messi you don't like football and you don't like argentina , Leo messi will have the last lough, at the maracana in the final


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:33 AM
0
Sabella isn't going to give away his real tactics so close to the Cup. It's just tinkering and getting flow with different players to get some in game chemistry. There is no way Lavezzi will play as the 9 in any scenario in the Cup, for example.


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 3:31 AM
0
@Richard , i agree with you. But both are different in character cant help that. Diego even didnt score any goal he will motivat cheer for the entire team. but messi looks upset when he doesnt scored....


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 2:31 AM
3
What a lot of crap about Messi in the media. The guy envies Maradona. Well he could learn a lot from Diego.

He should stop moaning. Neymar this, Neymar that. Alexis bla, bla, bla. Barcelona tactics bla, bla, bla. He needs to be happy, bla, bla, bla. Damnit, he is the best player in the world. He earns the most money. He should stop acting like a spoiled child.

Diego was a true captain. He was a motivator on the pitch, encouraged his team mates, made everybody around him better. Diego rolled up his sleeves when the going got tough. He was an example of resilience and over my dead body mentality. Just look at his face during the national anthem in WC 1986 matches. Messi for all his qualities is still very far away from that attitude. Skill alone won't win the WC. It takes more, much more.

So wise up Messi and get to work.


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 2:31 AM
0
@el principe:

Just as @The Thinker, and the other mentioned, I think you didn't watch that game, or maybe forgot it since it took place about 8 years ago. Zizo was titled the best player of the year just after that game, and had he left the world cup instead of buttheading Materazzi he would've been crowned the best player in 2006 instead of unconvincing Canavaro.

And by the way, Fat Ronaldo wasn't at his peak back then, not even close. Actually, if I am not mistaken, he was in the bottom of the decline phase.


cleanball
(Indonesia)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 2:17 AM
0
Against T& T albiceleste did not play with pure striker, the absence of Kun and Higuain did bring the changes and tempo of the game. Messi have a free role that can explore from deep to the penalty box.

Sabella will use the 4-3-1-2 formation and the 4-4-2 with Messi and Kun/Higuain as the striker. It depends on the opponents and the fitness of players.


pa
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 1:12 AM
3
We r all talking about messi.But the problem is not about player deeper where he played n no of times for barca but about players who needs to follow messi's run (xavi,iniesta perfect players to follow).

Messi last seaaon is poor bcos of two players

Sanchez :
He is good player when he plays direct football but in barca he never pass or follow messi he just hold the ball and take the shot or he goes for aerial cross.

Neymar:
When the season started the relationship b/w him and messi is really good,he passses every ball to messi in box, when messi got injured then problem started he plays as striker and he scores.When messi return he continued playing in left and he didnt pass anything to messi, he just dribbles and he took shot or he looses ball or he make some poor cross.

When it comes to argentina messi had a same problem in past but thanks to sabella who rectified it. But match against romania and t&t messi playing too deeper and still effective when making his run but no one is passing when he likes to play one two (maxi took shot when messi pass and run into box against t&t)

My conclusion is unless players who follow messi's run and pass to him he wont score many goals other than free kick and pk


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:58 AM
0
I doubt it a lot of brazilians want brazil to lose due to the political situation.


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:37 AM
0
why brazil is so much over confidence about the victory...?
is everything fixed already :(


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:35 AM
0
For those who believe in comments. Here is what Brazil said about Argentina;

Scolari says he is ready to take his side to the final and admits he hopes to meet Alejandro Sabella's men in the Maracana on June 13 to decide who takes home the trophy.

"I don't have to worry about Argentina," he told reporters. "I hope we can make it a Brazil-Argentina final, a South American final, with players that have great technical ability.

"I don't want Argentina to drop out beforehand. I want them to play their best football. If they lose, it's not my problem. My problem is Brazil. I have to take Brazil to the final, taking on whoever stands in our way."
Like him, many of you feel exactly the same here. To be honest, I don't fear Brazil in the final this time we have firepower advantage but I admit that they have one x-factor over us, big match temperament collectively. We can't dispute that, it's a historical fact. So I prefer anyone else but Brazil. But I won't fear them especially if they're the only thing standing between us and the WC. Messi also has a reputation of bringing his best self in deciders.


baker
(India)
Posted on 6/6/2014 at 12:12 AM
3
i dont have much to explain on messis playing position , but i just want to share my thoughts.

Q: when will messi will be happpy..?
A: When he scores and scores a lot...
Q: What position he plays most when he is on scoring flee
A: when he is false 9 or second striker.
Q: Why was messi was unhappy most of last season with barca..?
A: tata strategy forced him to play little deeper..
Q: what argentina wants from messi..
A: Happy and goal scoring messi.
Q: So still thinks he need to play deeply...?
A: Heck no

its just my thought :)


bunchowhero
(Hong Kong)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 11:13 PM
1
I like the post of El Principe for the false 9. Actually false 9 came from 9 and half, and it's funny to see that the most famous 9 and half are all Italians: Baggio, Signori, Mancini, Del Piero, Totti ... etc. Quite incredible! In this world cup, players who can play false 9 are: Muller, Gotze, Benzema, Fabregas, Messi and Aguero. And obviously we have the 2 best, I hope that we leverage that for this world cup.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 11:11 PM
0
Dondappadappa lets hope you are right.


Ari
(United States)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 11:07 PM
0
I don't understand why everybody suddenly thinks Messi is going to play far too behind in the midfield. Just because of this one single friendly game where he was not with his striker partners?

Messi has scored more goals under Sabella than any other manager. He will score in Brazil.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 8:07 PM
0
Ronaldo was playing his best football in his teenage years... he was literally tearing apart everything from 1995 to the final of 98 where that infamous incident occured.. by the age of 21 he had already won awards that an average footballer cannot achieve in their whole lifetime.. in 1999, a horrendous injury occured to him (zanetti shed tears for him) and for years,, Ronaldo was sidelined.. People began to think that he would not play football again until the great Redemption of 2002 where he scored 8 goals to win Brazil a record fifth.. by 200,, he had already lost form but still had enough to break Muller's record of 14 goals..

Ronaldo is only ONE and he is Brazilian..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 8:03 PM
0
I am not trying to say Mexico is a super power in world football..But what I do know is that, there is no national team at the moment that have beaten Brazil more consistently than Mexico over the past 13 years..

I guarantee you that the Brazil vs Mexico game wont go down as how you're picturing it out to be...


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 7:56 PM
0
These friendlies means absolutely nothing... Mexico is a loser team,, they've qualified in WC 15 times and they couldn't even reach semifinals even once.. Even USA, a country where football is not the most popular has reached semifinals in 1930..

In front of the Maracana,, this Mexico will pee in their pants..


UTG_Moon92
(Brazil)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 7:56 PM
1
@el principe Where do you get this statements from? Ronaldo was at his peak in 2006?! What?! I'm a Ronaldo admirer and a brazilian football fan, so I know a thing or two about the guy. He played 3 WCs (in 94 he was there too but didn't play) and by far his worst performance was in 2006. It was cause for great debate here in Brazil, from the media and the people as well, whether he should be called or not given his terrible physical shape. But since he was Ronaldo "O Fenômeno" (The Phenomenon), Parreira didn't give it a second thought. The other 3 fantastics: Ronaldinho was completely drained physically from his 05-06 season in Barca, Adriano was at his WC debut and everyone knows how he handles stressful situations, and Kaka was the only one worth to watch. The fullbacks were great players overall, but both of them (Cafu and Robbie Carlos) were at the end of the line.
So yes, on paper they were great, but it didn't come as such a surprise for us brazilians (at least the reasonable ones) they were "beatable".
And speaking of "reasonable ones", until nowadays some people cannot admit losing fair and square to a "retiring" Zidane, and for the second time nonetheless! They say Brazil has sold out the match again (the first sell was in 1998 WC Final), or that the players didn't care one way or another... Some people here will never recognize having lost twice in WCs to France's Zizou.
But I do agree with you on one point: Ronaldo was OVERALL perhaps the best #9 in the last decades. I say "perhaps" because I particularly think Romario was even better, as do a lot of other brazilian football fans, but I accept both opinions.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 7:51 PM
1
Thinker: You taking things way too far..How am I disrespecting Brazil? I'm one of the first guys here saying it will be a Brazil vs Argentina final..So when did I say Brazil will get knockout early? Mexico have shown over the years that they can defeat Brazil in more than one occasion, so writing off Mexico against Brazil is not a smart thing, even Scolari is taking the game serious..Mexico always seems to bring their A game whenever they play Brazil.

The last 13 meetings between Mexico and Brazil dating back from 1999 - present.

Mexico 7 wins

Brazil 4 wins

Drawn games 2


The Panama, Honduras, etc games I talk about earlier had nothing to do with this year world cup..I was just comparing Argentina and Brazil friendly games played against central American/Caribbean teams..But you seems to take things way out of context, talking about how I said Brazil will get eliminated early..


Pele:"This moment is important for us because Brazil are going to play at home," he told Sky Sports. "So it could be a beautiful moment for us.
"I think Germany is one of the best teams at the moment, and so is Spain, that's what I think.
"Brazil has a good defense and a good team and it would be fantastic if they got to the final with Germany."


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 6/5/2014 at 7:28 PM
1
@el principe-- well you didn't watch that match buddy.. A 34-year old Zidane was doing the rainbow trick over a prime ronaldinho.. i couldn't believe my own eyes.. He was doing it so effortlessly, i thought even i could it.. and throughout the whole 90 mins he didn't give brazil an inch,, they had just one shot on goal.. Zidane passing,vision and imagination was absolutely unique.. the most unique thing about Zidane is that he delivered his greatest performance in the greatest matches.. In 98 final,, in Euro 2000,, 2002 CL final, 2004 Euro against England and lastly the 2006 WC where he cemented his legacy in history.. Zidane is not only a great player,, He is among the greatest 5 players in history with Maradona,Garrincha,Messi,Pele..

R9 is the greatest striker in history even i agree.. the way he came back from injury and stormed Brazil to their fifth WC was amazing.. even if Klose breaks R9's record,, there will not be another striker who matches the precision,accuracy,finesse and explosion of the Fenomeno...

but R9 himself admitted that Zidane was greater than him after the 2006 WC.. football today is not the same without players like Zidane and R9,, it has been filled with cocksuckers like Cristiano..


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
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