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Posted by Roy Nemer (Roy Nemer) Wednesday, May 07, 2014 Go To Comments

Discuss World Cup Squads
The World Cup squads are coming out. Some have released preliminary lists of 30 while others have announced their 23 list. While this doesn't have anything in precise to do with Argentina, I'd rather have one post where everyone can comment and share their opinions over spreading them out in a bunch of posts.



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pallab
(India)
Posted on 5/15/2014 at 12:41 AM
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di santo is the worst choice of SABELLA..


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/11/2014 at 2:59 PM
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good point...
i would like us to play ecuador belgium spain and brazil in the final


Ari
(United States)
Posted on 5/11/2014 at 12:04 PM
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Well for starters we have an easy group compared to the other three. Among Spain, Holland and Chile anything can happen and the runner up of this group will most likely face Brazil, which will not be easy for Brazil as well. Same with Germany and Portugal, Portugal can be knocked out in the group stage with the slightest slip up... and so on.

My point is, the relatively easy group and possibly easier route to the semis will level the plain and we are up with the other three to win it.



pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/11/2014 at 11:09 AM
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Ari, i dont know what you mean by strong opposition... except i rather play italy than play portugal or france...


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 5/11/2014 at 8:52 AM
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Icardi will be the surprise pick in my opinion.


Kun_Kafu
(Malta)
Posted on 5/11/2014 at 4:42 AM
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I would pick 8 midfielders: Mascherano, Banega, Gago, Biglia, Lucas Romero.. And 2 Wingers, Gaitan and Salvio.. And Di Maria who can play as a central midfielder or a winger, depend on which tactic is used during the match. If we play a 4-3-3. we play with mascherano - Banega - Gago. Messi - Aguero - Di Maria, against strong teams like Germany, Spain. If we play against weak teams, we can use the Fab4. And if we have to change tactics during match, we can use the wings, Gaitan or salvio.. what you guys think?


JZ4ever
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/11/2014 at 1:07 AM
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The problem with the Argentina NT is the massive differences in quality between our defence, midfield, and attack.

I don't think we have enough tactical organization to mount a comfortable challenge for the world cup (though I hope I'm wrong). Spain, Germany, Italy, and France are undoubtedly the best teams of the tournament, and Brazil will be motivated to win on home territory.

I mean, our preferred starting GK doesn't even start at Monaco, and Marcos Rojo is our first choice LB. That not considering Gago's inconsistency and lack of physicality (which was especially highlighted in the friendly match against Romania). He has the vision and the technical quality, but he won't be able to keep up against genuinely top class opposition.

Then there's the fact that either Roncaglia (who's a very poor defender), Otamendi (who has been very poor this season at a club level), or Fernandez (who isn't even first choice at Napoli anymore) will be partnering Garay in the defence.

Sabella needs to call up the likes of Fazio, Musacchio, and Gonzalo, and missing out on Gabriel Paletta (who has been one of the best defenders in Italy for the past few seasons) was a grave mistake.

Unless Messi works wonders this summer, I wouldn't expect a win.


Ari
(United States)
Posted on 5/11/2014 at 12:09 AM
1
I think Argentina comes 4th behind Spain, Germany and Brazil. But everything considered, including the draw and the route to the final, we probably have an equal chance with them.
There is a very strong chance we will not face very opposition until the semifinal; while the other three could be knocked out, exhausted or figured out before getting to the semis; with some luck we might get our first test in the final...

At the end, nothing is clear until the ball start rolling, and when it does, anything can happen.

I am very optimistic this time around.


Ari
(United States)
Posted on 5/10/2014 at 11:10 PM
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@holytoledo... great post! Glad to read this here.

I do remember that 1-3 loss to Brazil, we had been cruising through the qualifiers while Brazil was suffering, yet they beat us comfortably. It was actually their best win.
We were very close to losing to them in Buenes Aires too. They were leading until the 75th minute until we got a lucky equalizer while their central defender was getting treatment, then they scored an own goal to allow us snatch a very difficult and late victory at home.

I have been visiting this website since after the 2006 World Cup, it was a simple blog by then. I rarely post though. There is a lot of cheer leading and fanboyism on here that I think brings the quality down.


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 5/10/2014 at 7:59 AM
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I wonder if Sabella will be using new technology. The Dutch team are using Google Glass and Oculus Rift in training.

http://www.factor-tech.com/wearable-technology/dutch-manager-louis-van-gaal-to-use-google-glass-and-oculus-rift-to-help-team-at-world-cup/

Let's hope they have a complete list of penalty takers from all major teams. That would help Romero if it ever comes to penalties.

To me Sabella comes across as a traditional man. He selected his team 3 years ago and stuck with them. He rates loyalty above match fitness and form. Most of his predecessors had one surprise up their sleeve. Sabella probably not, although I hope he has one (Willy).


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 5/10/2014 at 4:12 AM
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Do you expect any surprise call by Sabella...?


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 5/10/2014 at 2:20 AM
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Gago is essential to Sabella's squad, but like I said in an earlier post, he could be a double edged sword.

It's a gamble double down or don't to take an injured player to the world cup, unless his fitness is guaranteed!

If we look back at the team's performance in Sabella's era, we'll find out that we played the best of our games with the fit Gago and especially, Messi, he got his best form with the squad, when Gago played behind him.

I'd rather see Gogo sticks with the medical staff of the NT to complete his rehabilitation, then having him with Boca's staff now!

IF you need to know what Gago is capable of, look back at Beijing Olympics, especially the match against Brazil, the one we won 3-0!


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 5/10/2014 at 12:32 AM
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@argentuban my friend what you are describing is fitness issues not form.
In the 8 qualifiers that Gago did play in he was superb; after all he made that incisive assist to Lavezzi that saved the albicelestes from an embarrassing defeat at the hands of Bolivia in Argentina and like I said Gago was dominant against good teams like Chile, Uruguay and Ecuador where he assisted messi's first goal against chile and set up several of the goals scored against the latter 2 teams.
In the friendly against Sweden he was awesome and he set Aguero up with a beautiful through ball that he [kun] couldn't capitalize on.
I agree with you on the Romania match, but it wasn't just Gago, Mascherano misplaced no less than 6 passes that gave away possession, while messi was totally off his game, Di-maria went back to his headless chicken ways, pipita was invisible and Kun somehow forgot how to score (although he played really well). The whole team was off against Romania but Gago got most of the flack because he's not a superstar player like the others.

Now argentuban I totally get the fact that you're worried about Gago's fitness, so am I and to be honest I'm still debating in my head whether Gago should be taken to the WC and by now you all know how much I like and respect Gago but I feel that we here at Mundo should show the guy some respect because he's an important cog in the machine that is the albicelestes


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 9:54 PM
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Looks like Alves could be leaving Barca for PSG. It should be a very interesting summer with the WC and another wacky transfer market.


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 6:34 PM
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@el principe:

I agree with @Deb and @baker, Brazil back line is way over rated, and there is no way they can be the best. And I am talking about both center backs and full backs.

Everyone agree that Dani and Marcelo are great full backs, but they defense like shit. As for the center backs, then both Silva and Luiz are way overrated. God, even Moushit doesn't consider Luiz over old dead Terry !!


baker
(India)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 11:35 AM
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well i agreed in some points with @argentuban and @elprinicpe .

With right strategy any team can cover up their weakness with their strengths.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 11:06 AM
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Dani Alves is a great fullback, and up to three years ago, was the best right fullback out there. Now he isn't as good as he used to be. That's expected for a fullback - he is now 31. He peaked and is coming down from his prime.

But I agree with el principe - to say he isn't that good is a mistake. He did shut down Ronnie consistently. Most importantly, don't confuse the strategy of a team and their playing style with an individual being a poor defender. Barcelona aren't exactly a team that cares about defending - which is why Valdes is leaving them.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 10:41 AM
1
@Deb n Baker

I do not think that Marcelo and Dani Alves especially is bad defensively. I think Alves is after Cafu the best right back Brazil have ever had in the last 20-25 years. In my life, I have admired only two Brazilians: Rivaldo and Dani Alves because they are just amazing. Any team who plays Alves must have great winning records as he does absolutely everything.

Only in Mundo Albiceleste family who believed that Alves is poor defensively. If you ask people out there, the scouts, the experts, the die hard fans, the writers, including the Brazilians, they won't tell you that.

2 years ago Alves stated that he wants to win Ballon D'or. I mean if you don't believe that you are at least the best RB in the world, you would not have told the media that you want to win Ballon D'or.

For me Dani Alves is still in different league. If Jose Sosa makes us as if we play with 10 men, Dani Alves is completely the opposite way, he makes his team play with 12 men as his stamina, teamwork is just out of this world. He is often seen as a right back as well as an attacking midfielder right at the same time.

As for his defense, his one on one D is one of the best for any full backs. Prove it? I remember in Mourinho era, Mou was often time hesitant to put CR7 in his usual position: left wing as he had to go head to head with the great Alves and it is no secret that Alves did shut him down a couple of times.

So Mou often sacrificed Di Maria to play there (left wing) and switch Di Maria's position (right wing) with CR7.

I also watched the friendly game of Argentina and Brazil in Batista era where Alves single handedly dominated the Brazilian team as FULL BACK and was the MOM of the Brazilian side, although we won 1-0.

So again, you will not convince me as I believe in my own eyes. Dani Alves is a great full back both offensively and defensively.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 8:23 AM
1
Gago has barely played for the NT in the past 2 years.

Of the 7 matches in qualifying in 2013 and 2014 he played in 2 of them - against "powerhouses" Paraguay and Venezuela (Venezuela in Argentina). Of the 18 qualifiers in total, he played in 9 of them, 1 of them for only 4 minutes.

Of the 6 number of friendlies in 2013 and 2014, he played in 2 of them. Against Sweden way back near the beginning of 2013, and in the last dull match where he WAS outmuscled with Romania.

Gago has barely played for the NT in the past 2 years. How anyone can qualify his consistency and play on that kind of playing time is beyond me.


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 7:57 AM
1
Ok my 2 cents:

It really amazes me that I am constantly defending Gago from several members who supposedly have watched many of Argentina's games and NOT club games that has Argentines playing in them.
Some of you keep saying that Gago is "soft" and I have to say "huh"?
Please don't confuse 'injury prone' with 'soft' because they are completely different things.
Gago (when playing for the NT) is a MONSTER! He creates, he defends and he runs his a** off in every damn game! He is (next to lio) Argentina's most consistent player.
And when you guys say Gago can't handle high pressing teams then I urge you to go back and watch the WCQ away game against Chile, where Gago and Masch, by their lonesome, held off Chile's high pressing midfield. That's not mentioning games against Uruguay and Ecuador where Gago was spraying passes left and right to messi and Di-maria as if these teams' midfields didn't exist.
The only game where Gago got out muscled was the away game against Peru and that's because they played like savages and Gago was knocked unconscious and had to be taken off the field with a stretcher!
Look I get the fact that you guys are worried about Gago's fitness, I am too, but for the love of god don't just label the guy as a wimpy has been just because he's not playing for your favorite european club.

As for Argentina's midfield, well if Gago regains and maintains his fitness then Argentina's midfield will be right up there with Germany's in terms of counter attacking capability.
Some here point to the fact that Masch plays as a CB for Barcelona as if it's a point against the guy and I respectfully think that's rubbish. If anything this tells me that Masch is for more than just the midfield bulldog that many people made him out to be.
Di-maria has shown this season that he's creative (leading assists in la-liga), versatile (plays as a winger and CM for both argentina and RM when required) and full of verve and passion (even the 100 million dollar Bale couldn't relegate him to the bench.
Now are some of you honestly telling me that a midfield consisting of Dimaria, Masch, Gago (with Messi playing as the enganche) is avergae!!?!

Lastly, on paper Argentina is NOT the best team going into the WC, I'd rank the albicelestes 4th after Brazil (great squad and home advantage), Germany (great squad and they ALWAYS perform well in big tournaments) and Spain (great squad and 3 back to back championships).
With that being I am not afraid of any of these teams and I believe wholeheartedly that the albicelestes are capable of wiping the floor with the above teams and every other team in this tournament.
I said it on here before that there is something different about Sabella's Argentina, more gut and grit and a never say die attitude. This is the team that came back from a goal down in tough away games in Bolivia and Colombia and fought for every inch of the field against an Ecuadorian side that to that point has not dropped a point at home and that is something that many of Argentina's previous teams have lacked sorely.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 7:07 AM
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"Only Germany have worse forwards than Spain"

What? Pedro, Negredo, Navas, Costa, Villa

With Costa now, plus the plethora of attacking kids/wingers they have, they have a great attack. They were missing a 9. Costa gives them that.


Diego-maniac
(Lebanon)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 6:55 AM
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Argentinean players who could start in Brasil, Germany or Spain:
1. Messi ofcourse
2. Aguero
3. Higuain
4. Di Maria
5. Mascherano
6.zabaletta
7. Garay

We have at least 7 starters who could start in any of the top teams in the World Cup ... To win a World Cup a team needs to be mentally nd physically strong nd ofcourse lucky ... So far luck is on our side nd we have the squad to win it sabella should work hard on the mental nd physical aspect nd on team chemistry ofcourse nd the cup will be ours !


baker
(India)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 6:35 AM
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i am not a tactical expert , but having 2 offensive fullbacks . brazil should have gone for 3-5-2 formation.

------luiz---silva---dante----

alves------------------------marcelo-
------------paulinjo--gustavo--------

---hulk---------oscar-------neymar...

this looks better in defense and offense


baker
(India)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 6:32 AM
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@el prinicipe: realistic analysis.

but i will have to differ in center backs and wing backs

Alves and marcelo are very good in offense no argument on that , but they are equaly bad in covering their backs . alves and Marcelo is having the worst season with their clubs.

and same with CBs , silva is top class . but luiz is a poor in CB role and most of the important matches in chelsea he will be in bench or playing in DM role.

But still i am not finding a team having better than these pairs...





Deb
(India)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 6:20 AM
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Best wings back Brazil? I don't agree. In fact having Alves and Marcelo together can actually cost Brazil matches. They are perfect recipes of a disaster.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 5:55 AM
1
Coming into the tournament:

Best goalie: Germany
Spain is a close one

Best wing backs: Brazil
No doubt! Please be fair, not overestimate our players.

Best center backs: Brazil

Best midfield: Spain and Germany
Even Spain and Germany back up midfielders (Silva, Fabregas, Navas, Xabi Alonso, or Isco) and (Reus, Gotze, Schurrle, Drexler, Khedira) are better than at least 26+ starting midfielders of other teams.

Best attack: Argentina
Any challenger?

Best bench: Spain
Complete bench of goalie, defense, midfield, and attack.


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 5/9/2014 at 12:29 AM
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My world cup nightmares...:)

1: Marcos Rojo completely missing his marker that lead to winning goal for the opposition.
2: Sergio Romero makes a crucial mistakes and that cost the team in knockout.
3: Mascherano and Zabaleta get yellow cards in a row and missing most imprtant match.
4: Dimaria fires the penalty over the bar in shoot out
5: Aguero limping off the field due to injury even though no foul was there.
6: Gago sits out in a crucial match due to injury.
7: Higuain misses s sitter in a tight game.
8: Lavezzi gets red card in extra time.

I will come up with my wild WC dreams...just for fun :)


baker
(India)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 11:33 PM
1
Germany do have goal scoring midfielders , muller and Schürrle listed in the midfielders but they are one close being as a forwards.

defenetly they are coming up with some strategy.


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 11:14 PM
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@Shafat.Redondo:

It looked as a rating and not a ranking to me.
And saying England forward is Good, while Spain is Bad, then I guess there is an error there !!

I agree per say that Germany forward is bad, but that's only because we are talking strictly about the two strikers Germany decided to take. However, you are ignoring that fact that Gotze, and Muller are a forward players !!


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 11:09 PM
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Villa and Torres doesn't cut it anymore and i doubt torres would get the call and villa is now a 20 minutes player.

only germany has worse Forwards than Spain. I know costa had been immense this season but you are not getting my point. Overall among the top nations spain has the second worst forwards after Germany. Comparing to other wc contenders i would say this department of spain is bad.



Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 9:31 PM
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@Shafat.Redondo:

Spain plays with one striker, and Costa most likely will take that position. And this year he is one of the best, if not the best striker. Add to that Pedro, Negredo, Villa, and Torres (to name a few) .. I don't think you can call that BAD ?!


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 9:26 PM
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Comparing to other top nations spain forwards are bad. Villa torres? i doubt if the former gets picked and villa is not the same anymore. Costa alone doesn't make it GOOD! Negredo was always in the squad and never did anything which an average striker wouldn't do.

They would ultimately play pedro as secondary striker cum winger or costa.

I don't post here to be acknowledged by your attention my friend but to have discussion. You can ignore, decline ; whatever you prefer.


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 9:17 PM
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@Shafat.Redondo:

Just by reading "Spain attack is bad" I decided to ignore the rest .. Do you know that Costa is playing for Spain ?


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 9:16 PM
1
I won't go in depth with the German squad, but to notice few things:

- Germany is Germany no matter who they call. They'll always be tough, strong, and contender, regardless of the names.

- The front line of Germany is horrible, taking only 2 strikers is insanity, not to mention that Klose been injured the whole year.

- However, the midfield is one of the best if not the best in the world at this level, and I am assuming they'll do what Spain did in Europe by playing some of the midfields as attackers, like Muller and Gotze.

- Germany will never be worried when it comes to their GK position.


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 4:47 PM
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@Alfio, welcome back . . .


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 3:38 PM
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Thanks Holytoledo

Yes just because he scores goals and a great holding Cm that makes Matuidi world class. and what does gago do? oh yeah he stays injured all the time and does shit against high pressing teams. You are right its not matuidi but gago is world class.

What do you mean by ''Cabaye? Lol man?'' Say something logically or don't at all. That guy was massive for newcastle and absolutely clicking at psg.

Pogba? What can he do if juve plays stupid 3-5-2 at ucl ? About ucl performance same stuffs can be said about our players too.

Ribery is a winger or not. He is a player categorized in the midfield. Isn't he? Just like Di Maria

and since the DAWN OF THE TIMES when did ITALIA played well in the qualifiers? 2006 wc they were perceived by many even weaker than japan. They always play shit in the wcq and in the world cup they are a totally different team.

What the world of good did banega do? Score in a friendly and couldn't even secure a spot in valencia or anywhere , an unreliable player who can't be relied upon in any circumstances?

During Domenech time france was a mess. From evra to nasri to benzema everyone was shit. But hey? Discipline issue makes Nasri not world class? He didn't fare well for france before and that implies under new coach where he played great in the qualifiers count for nothing.

Times and times again you always argue blindly illogically. We appreciate your positiveness. I love your enthusiasm and positive approach towards our wc campaign but learn to be self critic too and abstain from rating teams and players with blindfold on.


Messicrew
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 2:28 PM
1
@holytoledo yea he is man..I still remember how hard all the Madrid fan were shooting at him .they try to mentioned every little unpleasant move he made just to get him out of the team ..and i can bet you right now they all praying for a miracle to have him ready for the final ..it's joyful to watch


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 2:23 PM
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Messicrew, if it wasn't for Messi and Ronaldo, we'd be talking about DiMaria as a Balon D'Or winner if you ask me. He has the fortune/misfortune of playing club football and national team football with the two best players in the world. I'll never forget his match at altitude in Bolivia. He killed it. Man of the match for me.


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 2:21 PM
1
@KidultHood, I'm done with you. I'll agree to disagree because we just don't see things the same way and I can be the bigger person and let it go. Can't wait until next Tuesday though.

I agree with your points El Principe. Not unlike Argentina in 2010, they will face a solid, organized team that will take them out and it may just happen in the quarters or semis like you were saying. Just a footnote, Brazil had only 7 players with World Cup experience in 1994 and that team won the cup. Not that it was pretty because it wasn't. I'm also not sure Neymar will be able to lead or be the star he was at Santos but he is at home and that makes a big difference when it comes to Brazilians.


Messicrew
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 2:19 PM
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currently watching the game we play against Peru at home
this guy Dimaria is a complete Beast if you ask me


Kun_Kafu
(Malta)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 2:08 PM
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My point: Brazil: Scolari is thinking that the World cup is already in his hands.. He is over confident of winning the world cup.. They will go out in the second round after the group stage.. How can you leave out from the team, Diego Alves, Filipe Luis, Miranda. Germany: If you see the team selection, you have to respect all players they lots of great talents.. About the 2 strikers, Klose score goals, Volland is young but a great talent. There's muller too, that can play as a striker too.. Joachim Loew, for me did nothing wrong.. Now for our national team: my selection would be: GK: Caballero, Rulli, Orion. DF: Zabaleta, Peruzzi, Garay, Fernandez, Otamendi, Fazio, Rojo, Ansaldi. MF: Mascherano, Banega, Gago, Di Maria, Biglia, Enzo Perez, Lucas Romero, Pereyra ( Udinese ). Strikers: Messi, Kun Aguero, Higuain, Palacio. WHat do you think?


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 1:44 PM
2
There is one word for Brazilian 2014 team: raw

Compared to their squad of the WC 1994-2010, where they always had pretty much squad of the best in the world in each position, this year they come with totally a rebuilding team.

Similar to England in 2010 where Brazil knew that their golden generation was about to end, the team decided to rebuild the squad completely. The strange thing was it looked like a failure until around 2013 (where their own fans often booed them), but the change of the coach and their victory in Confed cup really was a boost for them.

For me, I personally do not believe that they would repeat their amazing performance in the Confed cup. I disagree with Kidult, I predict them to be a semifinalist at best this year, not a finalist. The host in 2006, Germany had as much chance or even more chance than Brazil to be a finalist, but they lost to Italy in semis.

The reason is that Brazil is too raw, inexperienced, young, and cocky for that. For me 3 factors:

1. Do you know that only 5 of their players have WC experience? That's too few for a contender, and among 5, only Thiago Silva, Julio Cesar, and Alves are the definite starters. That shows that this team is completely a rebuilding team. Brazil teams in 1998-2010 always had similar squad in each WC because the teams already built great chemistry among the players.

2. Announcing the squad around 20 days before the deadline of 23 is a sign of over confident. This is called a cocky young team.

3. They have no real leader. Unlike in 1994 (Romario n Bebeto), 1998 (Ronaldo), 2002 (Ronaldo n Rivaldo), 2006 (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho), and 2010 (Kaka) where their leaders were either the Ballon D'or winner or the top three of the Ballon D'or coming into the tournament. This year, their best player, Neymar is expected to be something like the new Pele.

They want the 22 year old to lead the team on his shoulder the way the young Pele did years ago.

But for me, I don't think Neymar is that great. He's not even close to being the Brazilian all time top 5 players, let alone Pele.





el pibe
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 1:38 PM
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I don't see brazil as a great team. I think Germany Spain are above Brazil has some questions on that team that Scolari just announced . Julio Cesar is old as dirt. Neymar has been a bust in Barcelona. Hulk is to fat and slow. Midfielders are average at best. Germany Spain are the favorites to win the W.Cup this summer.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 1:31 PM
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holytoledo I don't want anyone to agree with me here bruh,I careless about that bruh..What I care about is the Argentina NT, that's why am here on this forum bruh and, if there was another Argie wc website around I would have bounce longtime bruh..I'll bounce when Sabella name the 23 man squad, thank you!!

I don't need your Sympathy man, bring that to someone else bruh..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 1:17 PM
0
Pogba? How did he do in the UCL and Europa cup this season? Pogba is a kid man, no need to elevate him as if he is some Patrick Viera..So because Matuidi score goals and is a holding midfield that makes him world class?(not saying he cant play though)but your argument is flawed(Banega scored against Italy)..Nasri? When was the last time Nasri had a good game for France, this guy was even ban from the French team and its said he might miss out on the world cup..Cabaye? lol Man I am done...Ribery is a winger not a midfielder..France have a good midfield not world class by any means...

Italy as a country is always a defensive team but under Prandelli this team is a joke defensively..Italy conceded the most goals at the 2013 Confederation cup behind Tahiti..Italy been leaking goal like crazy, even the game most recently Italy played against Nigeria, the defense was not convincing..

Because I haven't seen Di Rossi a DM playing as a CB for Italy

Because I haven't seen Martinez a DM playing CB at Bayern Munich.

Because I haven't seen Busquet a DM playing as CB for Barcelona

Because I haven't seen Xavi Garcia DM playing CB for Man City.


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 12:56 PM
2
@pablo.d - Agree with you completely. I am not trying to be negative but I've been here before. We have a great roster of players, a coach who seems to be "getting it" and for whatever reason, we end up coming home empty handed. I'm trying to be realistic. We've been beaten by far less impressive players than the one's on Brazil's team sheet (see below). I just don't think people get that. I would be completely beside myself if we managed to win it in Brazil but realistically I'm hoping we can make it to the semifinals and that Messi has a good tournament. Outside of that, I don't care who we play or how we get there. I once cheered when we qualified on penalties from the quarters to the semis and the semis to the final so it could always be worse. I also cheered for a muppet of a coach in 2010. So sue me.

Do you all remember a player named Vampeta? You shouldn't because he never really did anything of note. Not highly rated at all, and in World Cup qualifiers for 2002 when Argentina absolutely destroyed all comers (in friendlies and qualifiers), Bielsa's team sauntered into their match with Brazil and he ran riot. Scored 2 goals, we had NO answer for this guy. He came in and out of our penalty area at his leisure. And there is always one of these guys that steps it up. This is what I mean gents. Don't underestimate the Brazil team despite how they look on paper. It makes you look like an amateur.

@KidultHood Why are you waiting until the start of the World Cup? Bounce now bro. Clearly you want everyone to agree with you or you'll take your toys and go home. So go ahead.

@Kenneth, the discussion is about Brazil. When Sabella turns in his list and it comes time to discuss our national team, I'll be happy to weigh in on our chances and wax poetic with the rest of you. Brazil was being disrespected and I thought I could add some perspective.

@Shafat.Redondo has the right idea. It's one thing to believe that your team will do well. Quite another to shit on everyone else because they are not Argentina. Perspective.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 12:48 PM
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and rasel ; Lavezzi is good enough for me. what are you talking about ?

I lean to Icardi or Iturbe over palacio but palacio earned his place.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 12:43 PM
1
Gago? Praise the Lord if he can play let alone performing decently.Gago can't fare against the physical sides.

France's players are spoil rich kids? Pogba has been a monster for straight two seasons now. Cabaye is doing fantastic. I ain't gonna mention nasri even. Matiuidi is a scorer as well as a great holding midfielder. Ribery? What are you smoking i have no idea. If that midfield is not world class i don't know what is.

You could come up with a dm who is playing CB for three years in mascherano , an injured question mark ? Gago and hot form Di Maria. (messi categorized in striker list, your argument is invalid)

Yet French mid is not world class? Get a hold on yourself

Trying to make them worthy by medals is desperate. Italy's midfield can't make 4 passes without pirlo. and records those records mean shit for them. Their defenders are top notch.Chiello barzagli bonucci each of them are wc. they conceded cause of that stupid juve 3-4-3 thing. They rectified it now.

Watch matches more and stop reciting stats blindly.


rasel
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 12:39 PM
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everything is ok for argentina. but argentina dont have good substitute for defense. romero proved now good but he is not still a wclass goal keeper. watch past history...wchampion or runners up had wclass goal keeper. lavezzi is not good enough for aguero or higuin substitute. palacio also not adjusting with messi dmaria. in the middle of tournament if there is problem with injury...argentina will not be balance or will miss a lot of chance to make goal. sabellas tactics is excellent but his substitute choosing is not A grade as like the best 11.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 11:59 AM
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Shafat I don't know how you call Argentina midfield ''average'' yet France has world class..Lets put facts here on the table..Not saying our midfield is world class but its far from average..

Mascherano: 1 UCL title, 1 UCL runners up,2 Olympic Gold medalist,Champion of Brazilian league with Corinthians,La Liga champion, Copa Del Rey Champion, Confed cup and Copa America finalist.

Di Maria: champions with Benfica,2 Portugues league cup, Olympic Gold medalist, 1 La Liga title, 2 CDR titles.

Gago: La Liga tiles, 1 CDR, Olympic Gold medalist.

This will be Argentina possible starting midfield trio at the world cup, compare the success to the French team midfield, its not even close..You call France midfield world class because they have a bunch of spoil rich kids playing for PSG who flop time and time again in the UCL? Messi will be playing as an extra midfielder at times, any midfield Messi is apart of will be a force to be reckon with..

Must say this is a poor analysis on all the teams..By the way Italy has the worse defensive record under Prandelli..On your list Italy is the worse defensive team since 2012..Italy midfield is not average I rate it solid, its arguably their strongest part of the team.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 11:07 AM
2
Germany - World Class Gks - Good Def- WC MId - Bad strike

England - World class Gk- World Class def-Good mid-Good strike

Brasil- WC GK- WC def- Average mid- Average Strike

Argentina- Bad GK- average def- average mid - WC strie

Spain- Wc Gk - Wc def - Wc mid - Bad strike

Italy- Wc GK - Wc Def - Average Mid - Average Strike

Portugal - Good Gk- Good Def- average mid - average strike

France - WC GK - WC Def - WC mid - average strike

that's my short evaluation for the top teams


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 10:57 AM
3
Thanks Batigol

Kidulthood; Your biasedness is beyond any reasonable scale. You kept saying how every brasilian is an average or shit or not world class. That ridiculous. Basically Brazil and Argentina has same midfield with no creativity. Maybe ours is a little better since we have Di Maria.

Oscar is god damn world class. He showed that times and times again in the UCL nights. Ramires?That guy runs all day like an arabian horse.His creativity is not that bad either with calmness and decent finishing ability.

Ask Barca fans , That Ramires chip over valdes still haunts them. So if you say brasil has an average then so do we. Cause if you consider .. Masche + Biglia = Fernandinho + Paulinho + Gustavo ( Gustavo bayern reject? well last season he played great against real when they knocked madrid out)

Banega ? he is a gamble and not proven ( according to your theory)

Our only edge in the midfield is di maria. Period.

Brazil has world class defence and average mid with average strike force whereas Argentina has average defence and average mid with World Class strike force.

I would say argentina and brazil both teams are equal on the paper. (not counting messi)

and about messi's form. Yeah i know he scored tons of goals despite being injured. But i dont care about his goals much cause messi's briliance is not for goals but for his Take ons 1-1 , Through balls and incisive runs.


Its been so long messi took on any defenders like he used. Before leo used to take 3 guys out in a whim recently he can barely take on and his through balls always getting intercepted.

That being said im not worried about leo nor i have any intention to criticize him here. But these are the real facts.

I have seen the Germany team today and nothing special in that team either.

Germany Brasil Argentina they are same on paper . (argentina is only behind in gk spots. maan)


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 8:31 AM
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Only 2 strikers in German squad. For a country with 80 million people. That's poor to put it mildly. Their midfield is the best of all 32 teams. Creativity, strength, length, resilience and good passers. They will go far....(again)

Brazil omitting the beast Alex, Felipe Luis and Miranda. That's good news.

I hope Sabella will throw one surprise, for example Carlos Luque. Our opponents have ni analysis on him. All regulars they know including who can be provoked (hello Masche) and who will retalliate (hello Kun).


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 7:11 AM
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Germany Preliminary World Cup Roster:

Goalkeepers: Manuel Neuer, Roman Weidefeller, Ron–Robert Zieler
Defense: Jerome Boateng, Erik Durm, Kevin Grosskreutz, Benedikt Höwedes, Mats Hummels, Marcell Jansen, Philipp Lahm, Per Mertesacker, Shkodran Mustafi, Marcel Schmelzer
Midfield: Lars Bender, Julian Draxler, Matthias Ginter, Leon Goretzka, Mario Götze, Andre Hahn, Sami Khedira, Toni Kroos, Max Meyer, Thomas Müller, Mesut Özil, Lukas Podolski, Marco Reus, Andre Schürrle, Bastian Schweinsteiger
Strikers: Miroslav Klose, Kevin Volland


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 5:22 AM
1
@holytoledo meh your entitled to your opinion, but when you come and say that we can't beat our arch rivals and say they step up their game against us but neglect to say that we often step up ours too well the fact that only a couple of us strongly disagree with you shows the true colors of this blog. If you were to say that on a Brazillian blog that Argentina will beat Brazil well, they would laugh at you and run your ass out. You can have your opinion sure it'll make it better when we win so in the end i don't mind how many doubters we have here.


Batigol9
(Estonia)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 2:59 AM
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@Kutz

Great said, Kutz!

@KidultHood
Get yourselfe together, man. You'll win anyways! If Argentina win this WC (what they do), then You can say to us "What I told you" etc. If they dont win it (but they will), all the other REAL fans will be just sad, that they'll never waste time something like "I told you".


Kutz
(India)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 1:47 AM
1
i guess all the fan girls will be leaving the blog come the world cup !!!!
and the real fan will stick with Mundo !!! coz they have been predicting stuff as though they sit with a Crystal ball,and would seem quite foolish if things don`t pan out.

so to the REAL fans all your views and comments (positive/Negative) are welcome and a joy to read coz they have the same source LOVE for the ALBICELESTE !!



Argie10
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/8/2014 at 12:13 AM
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Hello guys, this is my first comment in this blog. I am from Bangladesh, die hard fan of Argentina.

Brazil world cup 2014 -
I think we have great chance to win this year world cup though I still doubt about our defense but the players have decent experience in International stage and hopefully they will lift up their game at the right moment particularly at the knockout stage.
I believe the top 11 should be like this:

-------------------- Romero ---------------------
--- Zabaletta --- Garay --- Fernandez --- Rojo---
------------------- Mascherano ------------------
-------- Gago ---------------- Di Maria -------
---------------------- Messi --------------------
-------- Higuain ----------------- Aguaro -------

This look really great side !!!



Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 10:19 PM
2
The only thing Brazil have is home advantage, which can also play against them.

I really didn't want to talk about this, but the Brazilian selection lack many important keys:

- No experience
Julio Cesar (who is on his last days) Maxwell and Dani Alves are the only players with experience in that national team, and I don't see them doing any kind of impact.

- Over rated defence
Dani isn't a good defender player, Marcelo like wise, Luiz doesn't even start for Chelsea (unless they play with 5 defender at the back), and Thiago plays for PSG and I totally see him as an over rated player. The rest are average and won't even play !

- No creativity in midfield
Unless one of them is on his best day, I don't see them doing anything, and only Oscar is the one with a creative mind. So I hope that he won't have the best day against us.
Don't get me wrong, they have a good midfield, and I specially really like Gustavo, but these players won't make a difference going forward, Just like Mascherano with us, minus the leadership part.

- Not scary attack
Bernard, Jo, and Fred aren't that better from any regular striker in an average national team. They can score goals, but who can't these days, even Dwight Gayle scored two goals against Liverpool.
As for Hulk, then he is very unpredictable, he can win you games, but he can also be the worst player ever.
I won't talk about Neymar because I still believe he is a kid.


mmh007
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 9:56 PM
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I am not denying it. Obviously it will be hard task but saying we can't that's rubbish


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 8:23 PM
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Guys please all holytoledo said was that Brazil will be hard to beat on their own soil and it's true, they have a fine squad of players, a smart coach and the home-field advantage. If Brazil and the ablicelestes were to meet at the latter stages of the WC Brazil would be the favorites and there is no shame in that.

I've watched so many world cups (either via old VHS or live) and I've reached the inescapable conclusion that being favorites means very little in the long run, that's why I am happy for Brazil or Germany or Spain etc....to be favorites because I know that when the first whistle goes off it's every team for itself.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 8:11 PM
0
Rumors are di Maria may miss the worldcup if true it will be disaster for argentina he is our hardest working player and vital for sabella system , I don't know any one that can replace him, can perez replace him or gaitan I haven't seen enough of them , sabella not trying other players may comeback to hurt us , let us hope that he will be fine


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 7:53 PM
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IMO top class players in brazil squad...
Thiago silva, alves, fernandinho, neymar, energetic oscar also may be... If willian or paulinho or hulk is great there is no voice to criticize lavezzi, augusto, alvarez, palacio... I feel the latter r better footballers than former... Nw look at de players in our squad who can b stay head to head to anybody in this world in their respective positions....
Zabaleta, garay, masche, biglia, di maria, messi, kun, higuain...
OMG!!! total 8, means 70% of our starting 11 r world class, 2 good ( fede, rojo), 1???(romero) i m not sure... Thank u my frnds who urged me to make such a detail comparison, to be frank our team is stronger than i was been thinking... haha, this giv a good sleep to me for sure, ok then, good night pals...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 7:31 PM
0
we will win the world cup...every day i see it more clear...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 7:24 PM
0
As I said before, I am quitting this BLOG as soon as the world cup start, the trolls are already coming out in full numbers, imagine when the games starts..

Never in my life time have I seen such type of Argentina fans like some that are on this Forum..Might as well comment on Goal.com and ESPN soccernet because Argentina get more love there than on this site..

Argentina fans cheering for Brazilian teams and German teams and whoever on this forum..This is so mind boggling..


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 7:15 PM
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i was just reading what some of you are saying about brazil's squad....
look, like i said, i think brasil will lose, scolari is acting and being too confident ...

i think we can beat them, in their own field....

now, lets not carry away, there is not only one way to play the game or to win....
brazil has an excellent 4 back four led by thiago silva.. in the midfield, it maybe all athleticism. but this is futbol ,atletisim can win win games...it won champion leagues..

yes, we can beat brazil, but just because our midfield has a different characteristic than theirs, does not inherently makes ours more effective for winning...

we have better forwards, they have better defense, and in the midfield it is simply a question we have different style.




pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 7:15 PM
1
holytoledo: i agree wit you, its all nice to be the cheerleader for the n/t but after many many years of no trophy i no longer go into a tournament expecting us to win.
i always, yes always want us to win but i expect nothing.
i take losing bad but it is out of my hands and i realize nothing i say, eat,run, not shave, say etc etc will in reality effect any result either way.

i do remember 78 (just) and 86 seems like yesterday for me, i have watched a lot of football since 78.

having said all of that id be more then happy if we CAN win it in yellow land-oooooaaaahhhhh it would be so sweet and one never to forget.



holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 7:03 PM
1
mmh007, you are not understanding my point. All I am saying is, we have never beaten Brazil in Brazil in an official competition. I'm not sure why you are taking it the way you are, but that's you're problem and not mine.

I've been an Argentina fan for a long, long time. I've gone into tournaments thinking just like you and believe me, when the whistle is blown, I'll want them to win just as much as you do. But a couple of people were talking about how Brazil is overrated and they expect them to not do well. I disagree. It's a big difference to look at a team on paper vs. seeing them on matchday. I think they are favored because of their love for the shirt despite their current club form. I also think some people are overrating the home field advantage. It's massive for them. I have seen some crap Brazil teams bring their A-game against Argentina. THAT'S THE POINT I'M MAKING.

But hey, I've only been watching football for 28 years or so but what the hell do I know? Right?

I also didn't know this was an Argentina cheerleaders only site. I'm entitled to my opinion. If you don't like it, you can disagree through discussion and not through insults.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 7:02 PM
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scolari is talking too much....and for those who critize sabella,
scolaris' choice are more questionable....
luis filipe is better left back than maxwell....
miranda is for sure better centre back than herinque inapoli and in my opinion better than dante.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:56 PM
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holytoledo,
if you take away thiago silva, i don't see how brazil has a better team than us...

with thiago silva, i can see your point, they have a better defensive unit...
but sabella can make our team versitale, strategically, and i think as a unit, we will play better defense towards the end of the tournament than at the beginning...

for all the trashing of rojos, i think he is a good defender...


mmh007
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:50 PM
1
Holytoledo
What kind of fan you are don't have trust in your team. You stink with brazilian overhyped smell dude. I guess you hanged arround a lot with Pele or Big mouth Scolari. Don't worry you will see soon what haven't you seen for long


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:50 PM
0
Kenneth, brazil in 2002, had roberto carlos and cafu, perhaps the best right back and left back in the history of the game...

in 2006 brazil was a joke, i was living in brazil at the time and they thought they would win just by walking in the field because adriano was a tall guy...literally, i heard that a few times....

in 2010 brazil had a great team that could only play counter attack... but i think it lost because of pressure... a big melt down of the team...

scolari is better than dunga at dealing with pressure, and neymar is lay back...but i think scolari is overconfident this time around...



holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:38 PM
1
Hey Kenneth, I've been watching Argentine football and the national team for a very long time and am entitled to my opinion, here or wherever I feel like posting it. If you don't agree, that's fine but it doesn't mean that you or anyone else here has the right to 'crucify' me because my opinion differs from yours.

I think Brazil's World Cup to lose. Unless we happen to have a great match against them which would not be a usual occurrence since we haven't beat them at home in a very long time, and I don't believe ever, in an official tournament, Copa America or World Cup.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:33 PM
0
brazil depends on thiago silva, the one player i wish we had...
if you take thiago silva away, is like taking messi away from us...



pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:31 PM
0
brasil will lose in the world cup, i dont if against us, or before...


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:28 PM
1
@holy toledo first of all... lol what? Don't come to an Argentina blog if you say that Argentina cannot beat Brazil, if we really were a "true" Argentina fan blog you would be crucified! Also watch San Lorenzo beat Cruzeiro in the Quarters this year :) after we already knocked out Gremio.

Regarding Brazil's squad, is it just me or the better defense they have the worse they do? 2006 they had a seemingly perfect team from the goalie position on wards, 2010 was a solid team too. Their midfield is so lack luster i see them reaching quarters and getting knocked out in a scrappy fashion.


ghostdeini
(Albania)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 6:13 PM
3
as someone who used to post here with criticism and constantly asking for improvements if you remember me.

I have this to say, lists are surely formalized and we can't do nothing to change it, whether we like it or not we have to accept it.

I ask all the Argentina fans wherever they are living around the World to support the team to the fullest and hope that we win the World Cup.

VAMOS ARGENTINA.


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:57 PM
0
www.eltribuno.info/salta/401161-Se-filtro-la-lista-de-Alejandro-Sabella-DT-de-la-Seleccion.note.aspx


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:47 PM
0
Agreed. They aren't the superstar team of 2002 by any stretch. But I guarantee that they will step up and be a very tough team. Don't underestimate their love for the shirt and the home crowd. They are the team to beat.

This year's Copa Libertadores is an anomaly. Only one Brazilian side left in the competition. Not the standard fare and I know you know that.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:45 PM
0
Zaba man of the match... A great player all time, no doubt, but in big stages at crucial games on nervy situations, he is more precious, on another level... Rushing mind his opener against QPR in de 2012 title winning game... His n lavezzi's strong heart will b handy for us at crucial situations at WC, something dat we lack more often in big stages...


ArgiesFanIndia
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:43 PM
0

keepers: Sergio Romero(AS Monaco), Mariano Andújar (C.Catania), Agustín Orion(Estudiantes de la plata)

Defenders: Ezequiel Garay(Benfica),Federico Fernández(Napoli), Pablo Zabaleta(Man city), Marcos Rojo(S. Lisboa), José Bassanta(Monterrey), Hugo Campagnaro(Inter de milan), Nicolás Otamendi(A. Mineiro)

Midfielders: Fernando Gago(Boca juniors), Lucas Biglia (Lazio), Javier Mascherano(Barca), Ever Banega(Newell'sold boys), Ángel Di María(Real madrid), Maxi Rodríguez (Newell's old boys), Ricky Alvarez (Inter Milan)

Strikers: Sergio Agüero(Man city), Lionel Messi(Barca), Gonzalo Higuaín(Napoli), Ezequiel Lavezzi(PSG), Rodrigo Palacio(Inter milan)


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:34 PM
0
Holytoledo San Lorenzo knockout Gremio in Brazil during the Copa Lib last week and a half..

Sabella Estundiantes defeat Cruzeiro in Brazil for the 2009 Copa Lib title..I do watch the SM tournaments...

Never said Brazil was not going to be a good team at the world cup, the fact that some guys are overrating this current team is mind boggling..AS I said, majority of the players on the Brazilian squad are decent/solid that's about it..


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:20 PM
2
Two things.

1) Brazil are hosts. I didn't have high hopes for them in the Confed Cup and I didn't expect Neymar to make a great splash like he did but that's exactly what happened. Brazil at home is very, very tough to beat. In fact, I could be wrong, but I don't believe Argentina has ever beaten Brazil on home soil in a competitive competition.

2) Brazilian teams always step up their game when facing an Argentine opponent. I don't know how much Copa Libertadores or Copa Sudamericana you guys watch but even on the club level, the Brazilians step up to the challenge. It's a different match against us. It always has been.

That said, it doesn't matter who Felipao calls up, I can assure you, he'll put together a strong side. They don't have an proven striker. They have had to field an out of form Fred who plays club football for Flamengo, not exactly top tier competition. Hulk and Jo aren't exactly lighting it up at their clubs but all three are dangerous players and like I said, against us, they seem to find that something extra that can make them superstars on their day.

If you don't believe this, we aren't watching the same game.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:17 PM
0
Cristiano Ronaldo was pushing himself too hard but is fans always say how he can't get injured because he is an athlete...Now he's likely to miss the UCL final..Overplaying yourself is not good..I see Portugal world cup chances not looking good anymore..To be over reliant on Ronaldo in the South American conditions is going to be too much for one player..


loquito
(Iran)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:06 PM
0
Solo Argentina ....Desde ahora puedo ver la copa sobre las manos de LEO MESSI ...viva Argentina


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:04 PM
0
I also hope Di Maria does not play the rest of the matches in La Liga and UCL final. We need him fully fit in the training.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:03 PM
0
Brazil 2002 world cup winning sqaud:

1 Gk Marcos
2 DF Cafu
3 DF Lucio
4 DF Roque Junior
5 DF Edmílson
6 DF Roberto Carlos
7 MF Ricardinho
8 MF Gilberto Silva
9 FW Ronaldo
10 MF Rivaldo
11 MF Ronaldinho
12 GK Dida
13 DF Juliano Belletti
14 DF Ânderson Polga
15 MF Kléberson
16 DF Júnior
17 FW Denílson
18 MF Vampeta
19 MF Juninho
20 FW Edílson
21 FW Luizão
22 GK Rogério Ceni
23 MF Kaká

Anyone here think this current Brazilian team is great must be joking, are they a good team? Yes, that's about it..Comparing this team to the 2002 team and you see that they have way too many players in the squad similar to Gilberto Silva playing the same position.. the current Brazilian midfield is just pure Athleticism with lack of creative players, that's about it..Even the 2006 and 2010 Brazilian team were better than this one..Leaving out Kaka is going to be Brazil down fall..This current Brazilian team lack flamboyant players with creativity, just look at all the creative midfield players in the 2002 Brazilian world cup squad compare to this current one..Sorry but this current Brazilian team is not all that, and you people need to stop overrating them..I will take Argentina midfield over this Brazilian midfield any day...Gustavo was a Bayern reject who barely got games when he was at the club, Ramires is average at best, I never see any Chelsea fan rating this guy highly,Hernanes we all see what he could do at the 2008 Olympics when Argentina knock Brazil out,Paulinho is nothing special we already face him during the local South American games between Brazil and Argentina,Willian is not proven, Oscar is good but not great..All in all this is a decent/solid Brazil midfield nothing special.

Jo is not world class

Hulk is not world class

Fred is not consistent

Bernard is having a lackluster time with Shaktar





Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:02 PM
1
I think Atletico UCL, Barcelona League and Real Copa Del Ray would be reasonable. Three trophies. Three Teams. Fair Deal...Ahh


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:58 PM
0
Now real madrid concentrate fully on champions league... So atletico may target league... Barca can get 2nd spot, datz all...


MS
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:58 PM
0
Drawn Real.... Good now Barcelona have a chance.... Hope De Maria injury not serious.


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:56 PM
0
Di Maria is okay. He stood up on his own.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:53 PM
0
Real madrid drawn n out f title race... But di maria lied down on ground for som time aftr stretching for ball, hope there is nothing serious...


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:53 PM
0
Tata can win it now. But it is a huge job to defeat ATM


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:47 PM
0
100 goals for man city in PL dis season... Need jst a draw against west ham to win de league...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:43 PM
0
Yesss Yesss Yesss..... Real madrid drawn at 86th min... 4 mins to go... Can valladoid hold on to dis score...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:29 PM
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At spain RM dying to hold their 1-0 lead agsinst valladoid, about 20 mins remaining...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:26 PM
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Meanwhile man city winning epl... 2-0 up against aston villa, zaba brilliance in both goals...


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:21 PM
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Brazil's squad is absurdly average...the only strong midfield player is Fernandinho. Hulk is to one dimensional, on a good day he's a monster but still very predictable, if Neymar replicates his 100 million Barca form then we'll be okay, Oscar plays a little to European IMO to break down teams the way they will need him too.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:14 PM
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Is dat leaked squad is real...??? No speroni or willy...!!!??? Screwed...


msi2
(France)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 4:02 PM
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Nope i dont personally.


Lionel Pasa
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 3:30 PM
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We Honestly want Tavez And Lamela


theAbNorMalOne
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 3:28 PM
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@Chalz: I think no.21 was burdisso...suggest you to check it out.And regarding Zanetti omission I think Pekerman feared identification confusion with Cruz.I don't get any other reason


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 3:14 PM
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@ab, super..... Somehow u fitted in yr fav 3-3-1-3 !!!!!!!
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The guy next to abbondazari, no.21 is scaloni.
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I cant believe Pekerman chose Cufre&Scaloni above Samuel&Zanetti. Still cant find the answers.
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Ab, do U believe in the news about argentine 23 leaked.


theAbNorMalOne
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 3:05 PM
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@Chalz:I think there was no scaloni.EitherLucho or Burdisso made the trick on you.Anyway for a fantasy let's just blend it with our current team.
Abbodanzieri
Garray-Ayala-Heinze
Lucho-Mascherano-Sorin
Riquelme
Messi-Crespo-Di Maria
How is it???


MS
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:56 PM
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@Pradi ya I too believe in that way... hope they will be in good shape at WC. But somewhere in the tournament a sub will be needed... may be in dying minutes or so...?


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:53 PM
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@ms no one... Injury to messi n di maria is same effect for us in dis wc...


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:51 PM
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What ateam pictured above....... Take scaloni out and put in Samuel there. Gosh now do i put Zanetti????:)
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Pekerman is mad indeed....


theAbNorMalOne
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:49 PM
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@Chalz I meant even a man who have seen just a coconut palm his life long can see the dominant one in that comparison


MS
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:46 PM
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who can replace Di Maria in the squad?


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:45 PM
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@ab, hehe..... How did Sachin end up on a football field....???? One of the sportsperson of all time.


chris
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:43 PM
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TheAbnormalone cheta nice comparision...!!


theAbNorMalOne
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:41 PM
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@Pradi: 4-2-3-1 my a55. I hate that formation.My favorite ever formation was,is,will be 3-3-1-3.
Football is for fans and dream travellers. Its like your spiritual ways...You can be conservative or you can feel the life


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:39 PM
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Kidulthood..... Hats off for u man. Truly yr optimism is 5 on a 5point scale.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:36 PM
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I think they cud hav considered coutinho as a back up for oscar... The only creative player they hav now is oscar, i dnt knw do he has de stamina to play whole tournament continously, coutinho cud b de best back up...


MS
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:35 PM
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I couldn't believe why Scolari didn't take Filipe Luiz??? Still their defense is pretty good. Comparing with us they had a advantage.
Mid when on form Masche and Gago are great CM and they would be the best pair in that department too. But I am concerned over the fitness of Gago!
On front there is no doubt on F4, No club/Nation would have that line up.
The concern is on Goal keeper, Yes Romero is playing good for Argentina under Sabella regime... But the question is can he keep that form in World Cup without even playing in club????!


theAbNorMalOne
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:34 PM
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Please add Kidulthood as a synonym for optimist or otherway around.I just wish I was like him in this case...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:29 PM
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Brazil's formation is de strong one... 4-2-3-1 is de best solid, proven formation nw in football i feel... If we move to 4-4-2 wit messi at right wing will b a very strong one i feel... He dnt need to make tackle or throw his body on defending, by tracking back he can add one more man, intercept play, pick up de lose balls, n he can kick start counter frm deep wit his incredible vision n passing range, or he can bring de ball to opposition box himself in lightning speed in a best way dan any other...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:27 PM
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Some comments from the Brazil 23 man squad selection by supporters and neutrals..


''How is Philippe Coutinho overlooked here? Way too many similar play styles on this roster of fast/athletic players that dont have the creativity and vision that coutinho provides.''

''I would have taken Coutinho instead of Hernanes and Lucas Moura i/o Hulk''

''i think that filipe luis>maxwel and marcelo''

''As a Chelsea fan I think that David Luiz and Ramires are far from being good enough to be on is potential World Cup winning squad. I watch them play every week and honestly they are nothing but liabilities. Scolari made end up regretting choosing them as they make tons of mistakes in every game. Miranda would have been a better choice instead of Luiz and anyone else instead of Ramires. I would have liked to see Kaka given a chance.''

''Coutinho > Oscar.''

''Diego Alves is better than all the keepers
Miranda > Henrique
Filipe Luis > Maxwell
Rafinha > Maicon
Leandro Damiao > Jo
Lucas Moura > Bernard
Coutinho > Hernanes''

''Mistake not to include either one of them: Ronaldinho and Kaka can still make a difference when the team needs to overturn a match.''

''here isn't much flair or vision in this roster... just lots of runners and athletes. hopefully they do as well as history says they should though. but mostly, yawn.''
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When I come on here and say this Brazilian team is not creative enough or as good as how some here make it seems to be, I get attack for ''underestimating'' Brazil..Well I have been reading some of the Brazilian fans post and they're not all that impress but unlike some here on Mundo, this Brazilian team is the ''greatest on planet earth'' and is ''lite years'' ahead of Argentina squad.''


joesoccers
(Canada)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:26 PM
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are argentinians spoiled: messi.

no other team has anywhere near the calibre of player like messi.

he can score at any time, any situation, eats pressure for breakfast, lunch and dinner and can singlehandedly change the tide of game.

all sabella has to do is park the bus, and unleash messi.

aguero, higuain and dimaria are not on the same level.

they have to step up their game to be on par with messi.

that's the weak link. can those 3 bring up their game to messi's level and offer actual real support, and be messi's weapons, instead of watching messi, trying to be like messi, ignoring messi, or waiting for messi to collect the ball and pass it to them.

all opposition will be focused on messi, not argentina's defence.

this messi is the 90 goal a year messi, the multiple la liga champion, ballon d'or and champions league winner.

it's the world cup, not la liga or a qualifier.


Kun Bublu
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:25 PM
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I would really like to see Carlos Tevez in the Argentine World Cup 2014 Squad. He has scored more than 20 goals in Seria A, one of the toughest in Eourope. Yes I know he has got some disciplinary problems, but at the same time I think his presence, finishing and work rate could be a huge boost to our squad.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:17 PM
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Ha ha ha...


Gaucho96
(United States)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:17 PM
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The Brazil squad just isn't that impressive. Reasonably solid but not fantastic. I can still see them winning the cup because it's on their own turf, though.

I think it'll be up to the Argentina defense. They have to be able to withstand opposing possession in their final third and be able to link up with Masche and Gago to get our counterattacks going. If Di Maria leave the DM's stranded and the defense collapses, it'll be 2010 vs Germany all over again.

I can't see a European team winning in South America. Something that everyone seems to forget is that it is so completely different than in Europe. Argentina or Brazil are taking it.


theAbNorMalOne
(India)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 2:10 PM
1
@Pradi: I would like Boca or River to take a franchise in the Indian super league.A team named Malappuram juniors with Boca jersey and Riquelme will make people asking Cricket???How it is played???
And do you know how it will fare financially for you Boca guys???Millions,millions guys.Cool ban raha hai India(India is becoming cool)