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Posted by John (Sivan John) Wednesday, April 30, 2014 Go To Comments

Simeone & Atlético Madrid Will Go To Lisbon

Diego SIMEONE masterminds Atlético Madrid’s win over Chelsea to become the first Argentine manager to take his team to the Champions League since 2001.

Too many pre match talk was going on about bringing the bus into the pitch but in the end, no big London bus is going to stop El Cuchu in plotting Jose Mourinho’s fourth successive semifinal exit in this competition.

Despite taking a lead through Fernando TORRES, Los Rojiblancos kept the momentum going and rewarded with goals from Adrián, Diego COSTA & Arda TURAN; thus ensuring that an Argentine will be sure to lift the Big Ears since 2011.

Overall, SIMEONE will be the fifth Argentine to be involved in the Champions League/European Cup Final. The previous four were Luis CARNIGLIA (Real Madrid 58 & 59), Helenio HERRERA (Inter Milan 64, 65 & 67), Juan Carlos LORENZO (also with Atlético Madrid, 74) and Héctor CUPER (Valencia 2000 & 01).  

The other Argentine involved in this match was José Ernesto SOSA who came in as a 76th minute substitute. In a classy ending during the post-match conference, he sums it up in his own way by thanking the players mother!

Here is the post-match conference (just a bit) for your viewing, doing the translation from Spanish to English is Mauricio POCHETTINO’s translator

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musicball101
(Australia)
Posted on 5/7/2014 at 5:37 AM
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/126246844054545/

Argentina 2014 world cup road to worldcup team news and updates


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/4/2014 at 4:19 AM
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I am not late..
Very glad to see Simeone knocking out Moushit again !!


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 5/3/2014 at 10:06 AM
1
Although, we might have our best chance of winning the WC in Brazill, the 2018 team coach will have super talented pool of players to choose from. Just imagine Musacchio,Fazio,Icardi, Irtube, Ocampos, Lamela, Correa, Gaitan, Yacob, Pastore, Orban, Vergini,Santi Garcia, Lisandro at their peak plus a battled hardened FanFour & Twin Towers. And if the coach is Simeone, (no offence to Sabella, he's the reason why we look forward to each match with confidence) it is a scary proposition for any opponent.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/2/2014 at 8:43 AM
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Very happy on hearing garay situation... Hope he play atleast 2 or 3 games more dis season...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/2/2014 at 8:39 AM
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@kenneth i meant gaitan is more dynamic n pacy than banega going forward... In banega position we have masch, biglia, gago may be also augusto will b also useful, bt we dnt hav one like di maria n gaitan is de best option for dat... I think banega n perez will hav final fight, sab choose banega over perez for sure, another option is cut out to 7 dfndr n add 1 more mid...


baker
(India)
Posted on 5/2/2014 at 2:45 AM
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Another piece of puzzle is , how our squad strength going to distribute..?
i meant are we going to take 7 defenders..? 8 mids..? and 5 strikers...?



Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/2/2014 at 2:38 AM
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@Sudhirfadi:

Tevez at 2018 ? I doubt man, Maybe Copa 2015 !


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 5/2/2014 at 2:35 AM
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Benfica passed Juve heroically. They played a very well tactical game!

If you noticed the formation of Benfica, you'll find out that Gaitan is being used in every single spot on the field, he is placed as a left side midfielder, exactly like Di Maria and he supports both the attack and tracks back to defend. Simply, he's the type of player Sabella is missing in his squad now. Gaitan the midfielder not the winger!
He is the best backup for Di Maria!


baker
(India)
Posted on 5/2/2014 at 2:12 AM
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higuain in the squad for copa italia , hope he will star from bench


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 5/2/2014 at 1:08 AM
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@KidultHood: I agree Banega is better than Gaitan skill wise but I'm not sure about the passion comparison between these two.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 11:45 PM
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Lol batista was a shit manager.... And he brought tevez... Sabella is great!


Sorin'sCurls
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 11:41 PM
1
High intensity drama yesterday, devoid of goals.

Garay was fantastic in defense and was the stand-out player for me amongst all the Argentines on display. I feel pretty good about him as the starting CB. Some of the people here are over-reacting. Garay slipped and was the ground. Pogba went for the overhead kick and his boot landed on Garay's mouth while coming down. That specific play wasn't dirty. Had the roles been reversed, and had it been Gaitan or Garay or some other Argentine player attempting that overhead kick, we all would have seen it for the accident that it is. Regardless of who the player is or where he is from, wishing injury upon any player is not good. Stay classy.

Perez was alright most of the game, but I have seen better performances from him. He did himself no favours by getting carded out of the game, and hence the finals. On the tackle he got the 2nd yellow card, he did not win the ball clearly. Perhaps it was not worthy of a 2nd yellow, but at the same time, there was no need to go for the tackle there. He was guilty of making quite a few silly challenges before that, and put himself in risk of getting carded. Perhaps it comes with the game and the kind of position he plays in. Vidal was deep in Juve's half, and there was enough time to snuff out any sort of counter.

Gaitan , like mentioned here, has great skills on the ball, dribbles really well and is quite direct. However, there was not much he could do to influence the game as benfica were on the back foot for most parts. Salvio wasn't on the field long enough to guage a performance from. This is the only card during the game which I felt was quite unjustified.

For Juventus, Tevez was industrious without any sort of end product. He was capably handled by Gaitan and Luisao partnership.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 11:36 PM
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@sudhirfadi
to call sabella shitt in mundo is treason :)

tevez had a ok game but benfica's defence was like an iron wall Juve simply couldnot penetrate it!


Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 11:23 PM
1
Tevez have discent game ...... My fav player keep it up ............ U will be missed in wc that shitt manager do not have a sattelite to watch you playing. At 2018 u will lead the argie team .


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 7:59 PM
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tevez wings were clipped by garay for most of the game... hopefully he is ok :(


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 7:45 PM
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Garay is beast we are lucky to have him in our team


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 7:37 PM
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Awesome!


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 7:31 PM
1
Garay is fine, he got a swollen upper lip that's about it..Pictures and video right herre..

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/dtotd--benfica-s-ezequiel-garay-stretchered-off-after-taking-pogba-boot-to-the-face-212240393.html


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 7:27 PM
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Any news on garay?


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:29 PM
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That's why I said Simeone should be the national team manager after Batishita


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:10 PM
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@pradi Gaitan is not "pacy" by any means, fantastic touch and control and good crosses etc but he's not very fast, he's not slow but not fast...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:08 PM
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I included gaitan coz in need f more f a pacy dynamic attacking threat... I thought f including him instead of a dfndr...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:03 PM
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Pradi no disrespect but Banega is better than Gaitan.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:37 PM
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My dream 23 at brazil...
Willy, speroni, orion.
Zaba, Garay, fede, rojo, fazio, basanta, otamendi, mussachio.
Masche, biglia, di maria, gago, perez, gaitan, augusto.
Leo, kun, higi, lav, pal.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:26 PM
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Including gaitan, perez, fazio n willy make our's undisputedly de best 23 at brazil...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:25 PM
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I just hope Messi keep on walking around on the field until the season end..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:24 PM
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Pradi I know, I doubt Salvio was going to play if not for the red card..The coach seems like he was protecting Salvio from picking up another yellow card..


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:23 PM
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Wen do dis fucking season end...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:22 PM
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Hope nothing serious wit garay...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:21 PM
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el principe as long as Higuain bone wasn't bruise or no swelling around the area of the injury when it occured then he should be fine for the cup game..


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:19 PM
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Salvio tried to protect his face... Also perez win de ball clean n vidal went down hitting his knee... Poor decisions... Perez, salvio n markovic out frm final...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:19 PM
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Chellini is a dirty player I remember during the game vs Italy when he brought down Higuain in the 18 yard box and we did not get a pk.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:17 PM
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http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/napoli-given-lift-with-benitez-naming-higuain-in-coppa-italia-final-squad

Higuain is OK?


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:14 PM
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Chiellini to me this season has been dirtier than Pepe...Pogba is not a big game player.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:10 PM
0
Roma and Napoli both have problem away and scoring. they picked up many ties. Also i just read it may take up to 6weeks if he has to get surgery :/ which is around the worldcup starts :/.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:10 PM
0
Salvio should not have gotten a yellow card now he'll miss the final, ref made some poor decision..Chellini also fouled Markovic which should have been penalty..Salvio and Markovic out of the final.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:10 PM
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Cheekbone? I think all a player need is just wear a mask, that's all. At least that's what the basketball players do.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:07 PM
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Away goal advantage is a fucking stupid rule! A goal is the same where ever it is scored.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:06 PM
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Pogba is a wannabe super star!!!


maht
(Ireland)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:06 PM
0
If Garay has broken a cheek bone, it will take longer time than other long bones like bones from hands and legs, but it all depends the depth of injury.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:05 PM
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They cant score against 9 men... Sevilla scored at 90+4 n go to final wit away goal advtg...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:05 PM
0
Garay can play by the time the world cup comes around but he will most likely wear a mask at he world cup if its that serious..


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:04 PM
0
Shit i really hope garay is ok


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:04 PM
0
Juventus as a whole is overrated..The only reason they're winning serie A is because of the inconsistency shown by Napoli and Roma in games they should have won along the way in the league..


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:02 PM
0
I think Garay broke his cheek bone any idea how long that takes to fix? Chiellini is an overrated dirty player.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:01 PM
0
yesssss!!!!!!!!!! although I am not a Benfica fan :)


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:59 PM
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Dirty fucks! Go belfica!


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:59 PM
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Hey, Salvio is match fit. Crazy. I had no idea he was healthy again. And I'm not surprised with Enzo Perez. I'll lump in the Banega, D'Alessandro and Tevez pile with all the other hot heads.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:56 PM
0
I hope Garay did not break any bone in his face..Please lord let Garay be ok..


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:55 PM
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Screw Juventus dirty players. Pogba I hope someone breaks your leg.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:54 PM
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Omg... Garay...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:54 PM
0
oh lord not Garay, please..


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:53 PM
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Fucking piece of shit give him a red fuck you Pogba.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:53 PM
0
FUCKING POGBA PIECE OF SHIT


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:51 PM
0
Juventus are overrated I hope napoli Roma and Inter get Champions league next season.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:50 PM
0
Chiellini is such a dirty player.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:38 PM
0
Gaitan pumped up aftr red card


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:33 PM
0
He got de ball, no...?


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:32 PM
0
There goes Enzo Perez....Red carded


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:14 PM
0
Is on de bench...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:10 PM
0
Is salvio still injured?


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:03 PM
0
Its not Tata who is garbage, the entire Barcelona team became garbage..Messi has been carrying that team on his shoulder for years now..So all this chit chat blah blah blah about tiki taki is ridiculous..Messi is the reason Barcelona won 85% of their games in the last 5 years or so.Even last season against lowly Deportivo where Messi had to score 4 goals for Barcelona winning in the end by 5 - 4..This season Messi slowed down so Barcelona got a reality check.

I keep on telling people here that Chile will be BEAST at the world cup but all some people does is come up with who Spain and Holland have on paper..Chile will top group B over Spain and Holland..Most of this Chilean team came from the class of the Under 20 world cup in Canada that Argentina won...Chile speed and power are going to be too much for Holland and Spain on the South American continent especially with there fans behind them its going to be like they are playing in Santiago, Chile.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 3:45 PM
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Vidal is awesome. Chile will have a good team fielded for this Cup.


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 3:42 PM
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Arglover: i meant the game against Levante not sure how I typed getafe. Simeone is still miles ahead of tata for sure but hes like mourinho whenhe doesnt the talents he seeks a victory through rough play and fouls. His squad is thin and not much attackers in the subbing department but if hes given Argentina team or barca he will do much better since he has the tactics....but again hes similar to the special one when short of options.....victory is over the art of the game. Tata is garbage by the way.....go sue me now.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 3:26 PM
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@vickerman
@messi genius

See my post below RE: Biglia.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 3:12 PM
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lets watch garay vs tevez now!


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 3:10 PM
0
Thatz good...


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 3:07 PM
1
Biglia does not campaign for Tevez to be on the NT in the article. He simply states that for him the best 3 players in the Italian league are Pirlo, Tevez, and Pogba, all from Juventus. That's all.

He states I cannot respond as to why he [Tevez] is not on the national team, as it is not my place to do so.

Then he states that it is possible to play with the Fab Four, but that it requires teamwork - solid central midfield play on back and for at least one or two of the forwards to defend.

He says nothing about demanding that Tevez be put back on the squad. Much ado about nothing here people.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 3:06 PM
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Diego maradona watching juve-benfica live...


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:45 PM
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@arg2014, Atletico has no business with Getafe this season, their remaining two matches are v Levante and Malaga along with the Batca trip, I saw here u said that Tata is no match for Simione, why this sudden change of colour mate? Atletico has all kind of tactics available to them, they'll can press like Peps Barca, park the bus like Chelsea, can counter like Real/Dortmund and as physical as Stoke at Britania stadiumand this has been all possible by the real special one, Diego Simione.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:44 PM
0
The vickerman roy put it in his twitter I saw it there


Sorin'sCurls
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:29 PM
0
http://www.infobae.com/2014/04/30/1560986-biglia-tevez-es-uno-los-tres-mejores-jugadores-la-liga-italia

The above is the article that I was referring to in my previous post. Perhaps our spanish-speaking buddies here can help us ?


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:28 PM
0
To tell you the truth, we're really hungry for any trophies now.

2014 World Cup
2015 Copa
2016 Copa and Olympics
2017 Confed (if qualified)
2018 World Cup

We need at least 1-2 of those.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:28 PM
0
The Thinker its a way of having the forum more active and interesting, the more subject we have here the better for the user's. We cant bash Rojo and Romero every single day or call Sabella a ''moron,'' how is this interesting for a blog?


Sorin'sCurls
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:26 PM
0
@Messi Genius - can you quote the source where you read that Biglia campaigned for the inclusion of Tevez? I'm not able to find such an article.

I saw an article, which when roughly translated, seemed to me that Biglia rated Tevez, Pogba and Pirlo as the top 3 players in Italy. He separately made a comment about the system for the NT which includes Messi-Higuain-Aguero-Di Maria. But I don't recall him saying anything about Tevez being in the squad?


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:23 PM
0
@dinucci Thatz right... if he want he can speak personally to sab, watz de need to do it public... I think wat gonna happen atlast is he may lose his wc spot... OMG...


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:21 PM
0
what is with these copa america menace?? we already have 14 in our bag,, do we need more?? our one and ONLY primary target should be winning the WC.. we have not won any for 28 years,, this year is our best chance in decades and if we win it then the immediate next goal should be to prepare the winning team for 2018.. Brazil have only 8 copa america in their bag but they are the greatest football nation in history because they have won FIVE WCs.. we already have 6 more copa and 2 more olympic medals than brazil and our target should be to win WC in every four years so that we can dethrone our Great Rival... if we win these copas then it's a bonus for us but it should NEVER hamper the WC strategies..


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:20 PM
0
True... Only di maria once mentioned about willy... Nobody else... May b wud hav told personally to sab, leo or masche...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:13 PM
1
Unless Biglia is willing to give is spot to Tevez..lol


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:12 PM
0
Biglia shouldnt be campaining for tevez inclusion. Its not his decision and i dont want this to lead to disunity in the squad.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:06 PM
0
el principe The problem with Olympic qualifiers is that Argentina usually play mostly local players in the South American qualifiers while leaving the Euro base players until the actual Olympic tournament starts..If we had qualify for the London games Argentina would have a great chance at claiming gold again with players like Lamela, Icardi, Rojo, Federico Fernandez, Orban, Iturbe etc but it was not meant to be..So I hope the coaching staff pick a quality local squad to participate in the 2016 South America Olympic/U20 qualifiers...Brazil wont be in the qualifying so it makes it much more easier for us to qualify with more spots up for grabs.

I agree, I just don't see Argentina playing there elite players for the 2016 Copa America, both Argentina and Brazil will go with a majority Olympics base players rather than choosing a more senior squad.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:00 PM
0
@pradi sorry bro I misunderstood you the video is in Spanish I saw it an early post here in mundo probably about a month ago so check it on mundo I don't remember who piosted it but one of the guys here did


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:54 PM
0
Biglia campaigning for tevez inclusion , why not do it for a position we need like goalie


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:50 PM
0
We will have 2 Copa America in 2015 and 2016. I hope all teams will call their best players for the two tournaments.

As for the Copa 2016, I think the schedule is just a bit prior to the Olympic 2016, which will be held on August 3rd-19th. We have not qualified yet, but I'd be surprised if we won't qualify with the likes of Ocampos, Iturbe, Vietto, Fede Cartabia, Correa representing the team.

They will need to be at least the top two of the South American U-20 for that minus Brazil (the host of the Olympic). The top two teams will represent South America to the Olympic (plus Brazil).

If Argentina do qualify, which is most likely, Argentina will have to split the senior teams into two teams. As we know the Olympic will allow 3 over aged players (above 23) to join. 8 years ago, Pareja, Riquelme, and Masche were the 3 over aged.

Since the schedule of Olympic and Copa America will be slightly different, I am afraid we will NOT use our best squad in one of the tournaments! I mean if we call all the best players for the Copa 2016. Then the 3 over aged players for the Olympics must be the secondary ones or vice versa.

I think it is highly unlikely if Argentina will use their best squad for two Copa America in a row. In one of them, we must use half team A half team B. That's my guess. Copa 2016 is more prestigious than the 2015 one. So we'll see if we will have full team for the 2015 one.



Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:41 PM
0
Just copa america
only... anything additional?


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:36 PM
0
Pradi copa America is the key word


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:32 PM
0
Messi genius The 2015 Copa is more important than The Centenario Copa America..I mean Brazil and Argentina will probably send B squad to this tournament, although the federation will lobby for Argentina to have majority of their star players at the tournament including Messi.

I don't rate the Centenario Copa America a must win for Argentina..The cups that are important to us will be; this year world cup, 2015 copa America, 2016 Olympics football Gold medal and , the 2017 confederation cup in Russia..These are cups I am more focus on, the Centenario Copa America will be an experimental cup but I hope it works out great for both CONMEBOL and CONCACAF, expanding football across the Americas will be a plus especially with the media in the United state and Mexico.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:26 PM
0
@messi genius what is the keyword for dat fast transition video u said on youtube...?


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:17 PM
2
@arg2014-- you have DEFINITELY not watched the game and you have serious hatred towards Simeone,, otherwise you wouldn't talked such utter bullshit.. they have parked the bus all season??? you trying to denigrate their magnificent achievements??? this season they have outplayed Barca and Madrid equally and they did with grit and resilience.. i am a lifelong barca fan but im not a fool who thinks atletico played all season parking bus.. it's a PATHETIC insult to their club and coach..

you will see what atletico will do in the final.. just don't repeat those same garbage all over again when they win both La liga and CL...


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:10 PM
0
It is great news for our team we can win multiple titles


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:09 PM
0
Wow! 16th team in Centenario Copa America! I think that will be always since 2016. And Copa America 2015 in Chile. Three trophey in three years in spe.


Johnny
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:43 PM
0
Some details:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/01/centenary-copa-america-to-be-played-in-usa-in-2016


Johnny
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:41 PM
0
The 2016 Copa America will be played in the USA.


Johnny
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:37 PM
0
Hazard has shown an alarming ability to be a punk. Very talented player but if he keeps making comments like that Mourinho will bust his ass and/or ship him out. I'm not a Mourinho fan, but he would have every right to light Hazard up for that comment.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:26 PM
0
Eden Hazard admitted Chelsea are "not made to play football"


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:14 PM
0
initially chelsea parked the bus but when the oppostion manage to score one goal against these park bus team then they start to run out of plans and panic!! Teams just need to score one to create havoc against these kind of strategies !!!


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:03 PM
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Not sure what game have you all watched. Chelsea didn't park the bus, in fact Atletico did and that is reflected by possession percentage and passes completed in both halves. Chelsea played brave with a sportsmanship while Simeone sent butchers to show the world the ugly football which reminds me of Chelsea when they defeated Barca in the semi 2 seasons ago.
That penalty was a joke by the referee, and the drama that Costa made showed his manners precisely as a player. Atletico were fighting with words more than tactics and sometimes using their hands and feet against Chelsea's players. It was painful to watch, and I don't care if the coach is Argentinian because he played it ugly all the way including the La Liga. As for CL, he's losing to R.Madrid no question about it. I also think they will lose points in Liga against Getafe and Barcelona. Same situation has been given to Liverpool in the premier league as organizers are dying to make them champions on the expense of the sportsmanship and clean refereeing sadly.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 11:50 AM
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messi genious, agree with you... now, i just joined the forum, but early in september i said that the four champion semifinalist would be atletico, psg, madrid and bayern... people called me delusional... but atletico has 11 player that all defend... we are more like madrid, which is ok, with the right coach...

atletico could not have beaten bayern or psg, in my opinion... futbol is about players chemistry, quality and styles...


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 11:15 AM
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Pep you don't win trophy by fielding stars but players that compliment each other ,sabella is tactical coach he is stubborn but very tactical I don't know any other coach who is like him at the World Cup even delbosque is not tactical , it is all about tactics we have seen that just sitting deep doesn't work against teams who are tactical with players who are good with the ball at their feet and quick transition , this is our team . I would still like different keeper then romero I am still hopeful but sabella knows tactics no doubt


guled
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 11:09 AM
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Now a lot if people at mundo are feeling confident about our team and sabella tactics after atletico dismantled chelsea by playing quick transition and defending well at the same time not like chelsea who sit deep with out any attack, football is about tactics we have seen klopp and simoene use tactics do defeat bigger opponents , just sitting deep doesn't work against tactical teams with quick players , this is we're our advantage comes we have the quickest team when in transition and our coach is tactical only if he would pick a proper goalie other then that we are fine , I said before guys sit tight this is our cup , it is destiny . Watch on you tube a clip about our fast transition you will be amazed vamos argentina


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 10:49 AM
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any coach in sabella's position would pick masche, zabaleta, dimaria, aguero, garay, messi, and pipita ... even banega and biglia would likely be picked by most coaches...as would enzo perez given his current form...

i would probably prefer fazio and mussachio, but objectively, they are not world class, and do not know sabella's system as do rojo, basanta, cannparo, maxi...

argentina will not win by having the best pool of players, but by having the best players that can support messi dimaria kun and masche, and those are the ones that know sabella's system...



KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 10:48 AM
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pep Argentina have as much talent as Brazil or even more at the moment. The likes of Fernandinho,Oscar,Fred,Jo,Hernanes, Hulk,Gustavo,Paulinho Ramires,Bernard, Lucas, David Luiz are not world class players (only good players), yes some of them play in prominent clubs in Europe but none of these guys are world class in my opinion maybe sometime in the future, not even Neymar is world class at the moment (he's way too over hyped)..Silva, Alves,Julio Cesar, Kaka and Ronaldinho are the only current world class players for Brazil..Maicon I was never a fan is technique, is technique is poor that's why he could not last long at man City.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 10:16 AM
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We hav de pool f talent which can compete to any country in de world... Bt our prblm is outstanding bundle f talent up front... We r nw playing almost with 3 strikers... Dat s de biggest reason fr our team inbalance... For keeping tevez away frm team itself sab received so many criticisms, so if he didnt give place for kun or hig also in team de criticisms will b much more high... If we sacrifice 1 striker n add one attacking mid like di maria our team will b more compact n also midfield will b more commanding...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 10:01 AM
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Tizeboule... I respect ur concerns... Bt samuel n yacob... Hw yacob a nt material...!!!??? Samuel, imo inter already is late to replace him...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 9:58 AM
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Tizeboule,
i think maradona left the best players out... i cannot say the same of sabella, except in the goolie position...

people do not like rojo, but he is the best left back we have...if you give credit to enzo perez and salvio... you have to give credit to rojo, cause he has been outstanding in portugal (as a center back) ... the guy is young, athletic and keeps getting better...

fazio or mussachio are not world class...they are in similar level to FF and otamendi... tevez does not fit the team...

basanta and camapanro and sosa would not make the team with another coach, but then again, sabella loves 5 3 2, and he is picking players he knows can play his favorite system... so, i do hope hell pick enzo...

brazil is a different story than argentina, it has a well balance pool of talent...

despite what people say, we don't, masche, zabaleta, dimaria, aguero, garay, messi, pipita are unquestionable in their position. nobody else.




outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 9:54 AM
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Sosa is better than Alvarez, Banega, Fernandez, even Lamela. Alvarez, Banega - useless for our team. I've been writing this for a long time.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 9:51 AM
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Sosa is better than Alvarez, Banega, Fernandez, even Lamela currently. Alvarez, Banega - useless for our team.


Tizeboule
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 9:27 AM
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Be realistic. We love this team so much we can't imagine loosing, however if we leave our best players out , how do you expect to win


Tizeboule
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 9:24 AM
1
Suddenly Sosa derseve to be on the not. Omg!! You guys are so emotional. We need consistency, not just a player who comes out once a play a good game. Again sabella wake up being gaitan enzo miusacchio fazio dimichelis,Samuel, yacob. Club is completely different than nt. Scolari admits it,he said he doesn't care how neymar Oscar are doing in their club cause he knows how to use them to benefit the not. And I'm sure he does and I'm scared to play against a Brazilian teams in Brazil with hulk long shooting power with Ramirez Oscar in the middle and a tough defence of thiago Silva, David Luis, maicon, Marcelo. I'm scared for Argentina. Don't cry for me Argentina. We need to fix our defense. It's not good and the world cup is the last place you want to bring average players basanta, ff,Marcos royo,!!! Omg!!!!!


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 8:46 AM
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maraDON, a great DM is the motor of a team, but one DM alone cannot do everything... it is a team sport... in the end of the day, it is all about equilibrium, the balance of the team, the combination of the players that yield the best team...

442 is by far the efficient system...but then comes the job of the coach, adopting to the players he has, while not forgetting that it is the combination of the players is important...

if you have 4 attacking players, you can call it 442, but in fact it will look more like a 424, or in the case of argentina 2010, it was a 415...

simeone plays a 442 where all 10 field players have strong defence abilities...

maybe if he had in his team messi dimaria pipita and kun, he would play a different system...

regardsless, maradona's mistake was, that if you play with 4 attcking players who dont defend all, masche needs more help in the midfield...

in the case of madrid, the balance is achieve, because pepe and ramos are super fast centre backs and covered a lot of terrain...







in a 442 you need two defensive midfielders, and if you have four attacking players, and 4


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 8:25 AM
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the thinker great DM's are always the backbone to a team,maradona put to much pressure on masch in 2010 on his own in there battling a veron masch partnership would have solved that and sticking to the solid 4-4-2 that diego put together before the finals...

sabella helps the team by having gago and dimaria play of masch and in his 5-3-2 gives him support with 3 cb's and 2 wingbacks....


the funny thing is that solid 442 that diego used before the world cup is likely the way simione would have played at the wc2010


maraDON
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 8:18 AM
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fantastic to watch,and simione deserved this,its athletico's final to win reals counter attack isnt going to work against the defensive solid athletico...hope he can do it,but also want dimaria to show his class..hardvas a argentina fan to see dimaria in a loosing final but also seeing simione win would be magical was a massive fan of his....

his partnership with veron at lazio and for argentina was world class,wonder if he will get masch to goto athletico he adores masch


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:46 AM
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Do sosa make 23... I dnt think so... I still very much believe he call willy/speroni, gaitan, perez... Nd may be, may be, may be fazio also...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:35 AM
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el principe, wonderful email... i believe that great coaches are DM, or defenders... the same thing, as a team, i believe the motors are the DM... that is why, to me, out four fantastics are dimaria, kun, messi; and masche... masche is the motor of the team... i think will get better and better along the tournament as he gets used to playing in his own position... sabella is a great coach...



The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:33 AM
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haha.. Sosa can win the two greatest winner's medal of football in the same year without even kicking anything.. MIND BLOWN..

very few players win CL and WC in the same year.. Roberto Carlos won the double in 2002 but he wasn't a central figure either in madrid or brazil.. Romario reached the final of the CL and won WC in 94 and he was the star player of both..

if we go by history,, then spain has NO CHANCE of winning this WC.. 2 teams in final are spanish but WC is the exact opposite of CL.. if history repeats itself then spain will have a disastrous WC.. but you have to keep in mind that this spain team already created new history when the won the WC in africa- the 1st European team to win it outside their continent.. and they won it by losing their very first match to switzerland-- previously no other team had done it.. So i wouldn't fully count Spain out.. Del Bosque has all the pieces of puzzle scattered in his hands and if he can join them properly then spain will again win..

Or can Sosa do something in the final to write his name in history???



Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:26 AM
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@Vic I forgot to write LOL. Behind Diego.


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:23 AM
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By the way, Atletico start as favorites in the final. If they could beat Real in their own backyard in the CDR final, why would they fear Real in a neutral venue?


Sorin'sCurls
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:22 AM
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Good stuff El Principe , Kid , pep.

Simeone has been very impressive in managing his Atletico squad and being very flexible in his tactical approach to games. As El Principe said, they seem to cope well regardless of how the opposition players. The 1 overbearing element that I see in Simeone's Atletico Madrid is the crazy work-rate of every single player. Even their lone forward, Costa, drops back to do quite a bit of defensive work.

Freeman- you almost got me till you mentioned Maradona !!


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 6:00 AM
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Hazard : "chelsea is not made to play football..."
Even the players gone sick wit mou dirty tactics...


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:46 AM
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What an era of Argentine coaches. Have you you guys noticed that there will be Arg coach in the UCL final and 3 at the WC. Great coaches like Cholo, Tata, Bielsa, Sampoali, Perkerman, Pochettino, Sabella and Maradona.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:18 AM
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Btw guys, I just did a research. Argentina brought 7 defenders only in 1998 and 2002, and 2010. Only in 2006 Argentina brought 8.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 5:07 AM
3
Good research Kidult and Pep. Good post John.

I am glad that we FINALLY have our world class coach, his name is Diego Simeone.

His career as a coach was just so so when he just got started. Last year he looked just like a "talented coach" when he could win the European Super Cup. But this year is his breakthrough. He made Mourinho, self proclaimed "the only one" as a "fake one".

But what I like about him is he can set his team to counter attack (when facing stronger teams on paper), to park the bus (when leading against a team like Barca), or to dominate the ball (when facing a weaker la liga team). That versatility is always part of him when he was playing as a player.

As someone says, a great coach usually is an ex defensive midfielder. Simeone in his career is a very versatile player. In 1994 playing for an offensive minded Basile, he was more of an offensive minded midfielder, a midfield trio with the great Maradona and el principe Redondo, they formed a deadly midfield. The same role he had when he won La Liga with the underdog Atletico in his career as a KEY PLAYER.

In Passarella 1998 era for example, Simeone was being played as left sided midfielder in Passarella's 3-4-3. That's to explain why he got the best right sided player in the world at the time, David Beckham red carded:
---------Sensini----------Ayala--------Chamot
---Zanetti---------------Almeyda-----------Simeone
-------------------------Veron
-------------Ortega-----------------Piojo
-------------------------Bati

As he got older as a player, he turned into more of a DM or a box to box midfielder or a ball winning midfielder as when he played for Bielsa's 2002 team. So this very versatile guy knows how to attack and defend when playing as a player.

Now this guy knows how to attack and defend as a COACH.

I am just wondering one thing. Suppose that Argentina want him within 1-2 years from now when at the same time, he's achieving a lot with Atletico. What would he choose? I won't be surprised if he steps down as Atletico coach and choose us. He's got that "big cojones".


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:49 AM
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i would not be surprised to see a portugal-argentina final...


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:37 AM
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KidultHood,
all im saying, consider this trend, in the last 30 years less than 5 players won champions and world cup in the same year...two that come to my mind are roberto carlos 02, karambeu 98...

put this in perspective, many dozens of world champion players won the champions, and dozen did so the within 2 years before or after winning the world cup


Aslam
(Qatar)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:14 AM
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Any other non-European manager has won it other than Argentines...? I think no...!


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 4:02 AM
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Diego Simoene said: I don't mind Mourinho parks the bus. Let him park two busses instead!

Now, here is his message to Mou after the match:

Park more busses if you want. You simply, got cracked!

Regards,
Cholo


Argentina Kerala
(India)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 2:14 AM
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Grande Cholo. He is the real special one


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:51 AM
0
Pep I was talking about the countries not the players on the team per se...Its just an interesting trend that's all I was trying to point out not that it means much at this point..I don't see Spain winning in Brazil anyways.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:41 AM
1
KidultHood, i think it is more precise to compare the players that won the world cup with those that played the champion league final... i did that, the team that won the world cup generally had no player or only one player in the team that won the champions league, and it wasnt their star...

in france 98, madrid won, and the only french who played for madrid was karambeu
in korea 02, madrid won, roberto carlos was the only brazilian.
in germany 06, barca won, no italian players on the team
in africa 10, inter, no spanish players on the team...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:32 AM
0
ALKan There were no world cups in the summer of 2007 and 2011..They call it 2006-07 season for a reason because the season lapse into the other year.


Chainsaw
(Iran)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:21 AM
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Vamos Cholo!!!!


Alkan
(Argentina)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 1:15 AM
0
It's worth mentioning that Italy won the 2006-07 CL, and Spain won the 2010-11 CL, while Brazil and Argentina cannot even attempt the CL(Argentina won the 1986 Copa Libertadores(South America's version of CL), and Brazil were runners up in 2002 and 1994 Libertadores)


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:44 AM
2
I was doing some research, and the team that have won the UCL, there country never go on to win the world cup the same year. This was from the 1982 season, it might happen pre 1982 world cup but I did not research beyond the 1982 world cup and UCL season.

•1982: Aston Villa (England) won the UCL while Italy won the world cup that same year.

•1986: Steaua Bucuresti (Romania) won the UCL while Argentina won the world cup that same year.

•1990: Milan (Italy) won the UCL while Germany won the world up that same year.

•1994: Milan (Italy) won the UCL while Brazil won the world cup that same year.

•1998: Real Madrid (Spain) won the UCL while France won the world cup that same year.

•2002: Real Madrid (Spain) won the UCL while Brazil won the world cup that same year.

•2006: Barcelona (Spain) won the UCL while Italy won the world cup that same year.

•2010: Inter Milan (Italy) won the UCL while Spain won the world cup that same year.

•2014 Both Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid are from Spain, so if we follow the most recent trend, Spain won’t win the world cup this year.


This is pretty interesting, something to think about..


John
(Malaysia)
Posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:20 AM
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FUN FACT - Every World Cup, a 3rd choice goalkeeper whom you might least remember will go home with a medal for most likely not playing a single minute on the field.