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Posted by ZiggY (ZiggY) Wednesday, April 16, 2014 Go To Comments

Silver Lining for Gago

Reports coming from Argentina today have somewhat abated yesterday's alarms concerning Fernando Gago's left knee sprain, giving hope that the midfielder should be fit just in time for this summer's World Cup.

Having limped off during Boca's 0-0 tie with Colon, initial fears erupted that Gago could miss the World Cup, or at least the beginning of it. Boca Juniors' doctor, Dr. Jorge Batista, stated yesterday that Fernando would need "60 days". But that has now been clarified to mean the total recovery period, meaning if everything goes smoothly he could be back kicking the ball in training after just 35 days.

Argentina's national team doctor, Dr. Daniel Martinez, is understood to have communicated with Gago and Boca's medical team and ascertained that the injury will not ruin the player's chances of participating in the World Cup.

It is also speculated that Gago could feature in Argentina's last friendly before the competition against Slovenia on the 7th of June in La Plata. This would be the best time to test Gago's fitness before the Albiceleste take on Bosnia on the 15th in their first group game.




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haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 4/19/2014 at 2:55 AM
1
Yes, Johnny. |Its freaking out when you see all hoopla circulates around like its the end of Messi's era or a catastrophic situation in Barca.

Here is the fact, with all the BS drifts around, Messi managed to score 38 goals out 40 matches played this season, more than Tevez, Higuain, Roony or keep naming the list!
With that, Barca kicked out Mancity from the CL and defeated RM on their home ground and they are still competing for La Liga!

A slight dropdown in performance, doesn't mean the end the world.

Ignore the media crap and live in peace fellas!



Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/18/2014 at 8:58 AM
0
Nice post Haman. Dead on from top to bottom.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 4/18/2014 at 8:32 AM
2
What is happening to Barca is normal and happened to every great team after years of possessing the titles and the fields. The same players are there, worked the hell out of their asses for years and Messi is the most. Therefore, the time came for a radical change in the team.

Add to that the tenure of Rosell's bad management along with the Media overweighing on Messi's troubles.
Physical fatigue got well blended with mental fatigue!
It led to what we are seeing now and like I said its normal.

Now, some might wonder, why Di Maria is completely the opposite? As the days get closer to the WC, he's getting sharper in performance and fighting his heart out on the field?

Simply, he's well rounded with good management and a stable situation in the team, they have fresh blood and in a great physical situation, they could even beat Bayern and face ATM in the final.

I really hope Diego Simeon wins both, la liga and the CL.

The best two teams this season are ATM and Liverpool.. Hatts off to their coaches !


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/18/2014 at 6:23 AM
0
romero
fernandez otamendi garay
zabaleta rojo
rickyalvarey masche dimaria
aguero messi

a well balanced team


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 4/18/2014 at 1:21 AM
0
Varied topic:
.
When is Barcelona z next election?..... Hope to see Joan Laporta back?


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 4/18/2014 at 12:48 AM
0
From FIFA's website:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2014/m=4/news=sabella-brazil-have-always-been-number-one-2319373.html

FIFA: Let’s move on to a specific issue with the Argentina team right now, which has to do with the form the goalkeepers are in, with Sergio Romero, Mariano Andujar and Agustin Orion all seemingly off their game a little. Was it not a big risk to name them in the squad so early?
Sabella: The thing is I haven’t named them. What I said was that those three were “almost certain” to make the squad. And the situation hasn’t changed: they’re almost certain to be the three. They’re all good keepers and it’s a position where you have to give them a little bit more confidence. You need to have healthy competition in every position, though, and you can’t go from one extreme to the other. You have to show faith in the first-choice player without making him believe that he’s always going to play, because that can lead to a lack of competition within the squad.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 4/18/2014 at 12:31 AM
0
Scolari is not a great coach..He won a world cup by playing only two elite teams along the way and that was England during the quarter final and Germany in the final..Scolari was a failure for Chelsea and Portugal..I don't see Barcelona hiring Scolari, that's a long shot at this point..Aha, making Neymar the star at Barcelona will never happen, Neymar is not that good, he's more hype than anything else..Messi love Barcelona, the club as always been is home, and its tough for him to move on after everything the club did for him and is family..The Barcelona that Messi walk into at a tender age is not the same Barcelona today, Messi should just try and score the other 11 goals he need for the La Liga top scorer then move on..Corporate interest have sunk Barcelona reputation.. I heard the reason Neymar played in so many games even when players like Alexis and Pedro were clearly better than him was because of marketing reason..


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:47 PM
0
wow that would be crazy even by barca standards to do that.


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:19 PM
1
I have a hard time believing any of that. If its true, then Barca management is even more dysfunctional than I thought.





guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:12 PM
0
That is what they are planning to hire scolari and make neymar the star of the team and sell Leo messi if they do that Barcelona will be the team I hate the most in the world even more than real
Madrid and English teams


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:06 PM
0
Just like he did the last time he managed a club in Europe.


El Payaso
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:04 PM
0
I've seen it on the net not so long along ago. Bt has anyone here thought about what could happen if Barcelona hire Scolari as a coach after the WC?


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:55 PM
4
@the vickerman the choice between Soso, Augusto and Ricky is a simple one, atleast for me it is.

Soso is a hard worker and a team player (explains why Simone uses him from time to time) but overall he is an average player who has no business being on a prestigious national team like Argentina.

Augusto is a solid midfielder who seems to attack and defend well atleast from what I've seen in the 2 friendlies that he played in (note that Guatamala aren't exactly the strongest opponents out there) but I just don't know enough about the guy and I don't watch Celta Vigo so I can't really pass an informed judgement.

As for Alvarez, well I see something in Ricky that many of you don't, Ricky is a number 10 but Mazzarri is playing him as a central midfielder (Gago like role) for some odd reason even though Ricky excels as a number 10.
The reason why he was lighting up Serie A at the beginning of the season is because he played as a no.10 and his season dipped when he was placed in a different position and still he's been decent in the central midfield role.
Ricky is creative (look at how many assists he generated at the beginning of the season), hard working and most importantly has defensive discipline. He really is Argentina's Oscar and a midfield that consists of Ricky, Gago, Masch and Di-maria can, in my humble opinion, stand up to any midfield in the world.


Now in regards to Romero, well I keep saying this but I really like the guy and I will never forget the countless times where he saved the albicelestes' collective butts and I welcome him on the team but due to his lack of playing time, I don't think he should be started.
The same goes for Andujar, the guy is also a sold GK and he was tremendous against Italy but he's not starting for his team either so I can't in good conscience ask for him to start.
Willy is not going to Brazil so there is no point in crying about something that won't happen so that leaves Orion and since I don't watch the primera I only hope he's doing better than the rest of the Boca team members.
Argentina's GK situation isn't ideal I know but a big part of football relies on faith and while it's frustrating to see a solid GK like Willy not given a chance I will have to place my faith in Sabella and hope for the best because as a fan that's all I can do, sadly!


Lastly in regards to Messi, there are alot of things going on that are hindering his game but the only thing that can truly stop him from showing his best is a serious injury and thank the lord he doesn't have that.
The roles are now reversed where Messi used to be frustrated and unhappy with Argentina only to go back and take out his aggression on hapless la liga teams with Barcelona and now I am hoping that the opposite is true and that lio will take all that panted frustration he's accumulating in Barca and take it out on Brazil and co.


GAB
(Australia)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:12 PM
1
@ KidultHood, just read your elaborate post on Messi and also agree with your comments too man. Spot on!

Barca's loss is Argentina's gain...for shizzle!


GAB
(Australia)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:04 PM
0
@ el principe...totally agree with your comment dude about Tata needing to go! As a Barca fan since the 80s, and 'la pulga' fan since ever, I have never seen Messi so disinterested and unmotivated in a game as he has been lately, which is perfect for us Argentinos as he is avoiding injury and staleness leading into la copa mundial....did I say it's perfect :)

Tata is definitely not helping his own cause by criticising Messi...I think he needs to ring Pep and understand how to get the best out of the best player in the world. I'll give Tata credit though, he has mastered how to get the worse out of Messi.

Actually I've just realised what is happening at Barca with Tata and Messi.....Los Argentinos are strategising together and ensuring Messi is at he's optimal best for Argentina at the World Cup....brilliant plan :)



Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 7:04 PM
0
My keepers would be caballero speroni


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 6:25 PM
0
Musacchio deserves a call up but our defense is decent , where we are weak is the goalkeeper, all the current three keepers don't deserve to be near the team , we have better keepers that are available there is no need to insist on those clowns, some of you are underestimating the goalkeeper impact but it is the most important in the team


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:43 PM
0
''Despite having not been convened throughout the era Sabella, Musacchio thinks he has chances to be in the world of Brazil. Villarreal Defender is figure in his team and enter into the plans of Barcelona for next season.''

''So far, Alejandro Sabella produced no surprises in any of the calls leading up to the world. However, there are several Argentines in Europe which, so far, remain outside the list. It is the case of Mateo Musacchio, figure of Villarreal in the current season, which fights for a place in the treetops.

The former Defender River believed to have done enough to get into consideration: ' remain hopeful of being in the list. This performance is the result of the work and the effort, I'm happy. For me it would be a prize to all that made this season, although I is not to decide it. There is always hope, and until it does not give the definitive list I will be attentive to what happens '.

It is rumored that the central is in the Barcelona plans to reinforce the defense, but you must wait for the final resolution of the sanction that allows you to sign players in the season 2014/15. Similarly, Musacchio said: ' I don't know if there are other clubs that want me, what I do know is that Villarreal want me to and it shows me. I'm here and not think about anything else.''


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:17 PM
0
Ayr thats the good thing about simeone! Go big or go home


Deb
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:01 PM
0
@Poto: Yes man. They say first impression is the last impression. I know Tata is a good coach and has a decent tactical mind as well, but I wouldn't like him to take charge of our national team. This season has been so horrible for Barcelona and a certain percentage of it has been because of him. I can see Barca lose, but not Argentina.


Poto
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 4:52 PM
0
I hope tata is not our next coach.dream hires simeone,biesla,pekerman,bianchi or even the guy who is coaching chile right now.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:47 PM
0
Hopefully Valencia or Espanyol can made Real drop some points and give atletico a lead. Im worried about Atletico they are going far into the tournament but being in both competitions instead of focusing on one might lead them to fail both :/


YvesSBruno
(Haiti)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:46 PM
0
Please avid readers of this forum, i would appreciate it if you could check out my video and leave an honest genuine comment on youtube:

Thank you in advance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw5o-xI07UQ


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:42 PM
1
guys some fantastic reads from you all im really enjoying these threads, its nice to read some good and sensible thoughts with some great points.

their a lot of think about.
hats off to you all.


YvesSBruno
(Haiti)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:40 PM
0
Check out Messi and Ronaldo being cordial with each other:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/cristiano-ronaldo-consoles-lionel-messi-after-the-copa-del-rey-final-102153466.html


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:26 PM
0
TheVickerman, sabella's 3 5 2 varied, but he was a very good at using players in different positions with estudiantes, and for sure, argentina would have the players to play that way now ... indeed, i prefer that to a 4 4 2... so i would rather see a 352 (532 defending that would protect the wingbacks with an extra center back letting them go forward and cover the midfield) or 433 with the four best players on the team creating lots of goal opportunies ... no sense to me, playing a 442, where you sit aguero o higuain to play sosa or some other second class midfielder and still leave the defense vulnerable...

if you estudiantes team against barcelona, it give you an example of how sabella formed the 3 5 2(532) his idea was to have an extra man in the midfield and to do crosses to boselli, the forward, who was very good at heading, like pipita can be...

GK 25 Damián Albil
SW 2 Leandro Desábato 119'
RB 30 Clemente Rodríguez 58'
CB 3 Christian Cellay
CB 16 Germán Ré 90+1'
LB 13 Juan Manuel Díaz 45+2'
DM 22 Rodrigo Braña 119'
RM 8 Enzo Pérez 65' 79'
CM 11 Juan Sebastián Verón (c)
LM 23 Leandro Benítez 76'
CF 17 Mauro Boselli


Julker9
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:56 PM
0
I am really worrying to hear our player's back to back injury news. That's harsly make me to think the pre 2002 WC situation. When our great players were came to the WC with injury! Our current position is just like that!

This time our hopes are depend on Sabella. Though it's not possible for him to get injured like our players but he should be carefull about the "MENTAL FATIGUE" ! Which is more dangerous than physical injury !

And we know this kind of injury comes from one & only virus which is more affected than HIV ! Can you guess which one that is ?

We Albiceleste fans called this ' AFA ' !!!


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:47 PM
2
I have never ever seen Messi looking uninterested for Barca like yesterday before this season. Messi must be really bothered by something like never before.

Can't remember when Barca is trophy less in a season. I don't think Rijkaard, Pep, Tito ever did that.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:45 PM
0
Messi is healthy and that's the most important thing..Everyone is just so down on Messi because he haven't been scoring plenty of goals in the past 2 - 3 games..When you're the face of a certain sport these types of criticism will always be apart of your life..Tiger Hoods have had his fair amount of criticism, so too Jordan back in his days..They were criticizing Lebron James during last year NBA final and he had the last laugh in the end..Messi will be at his best for Argentina, lets just forget about Barcelona for now..I'm just happy that the final game between Atlety and Barcelona wont be crucial anymore, it maybe for Atley but not Barcelona..


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:35 PM
1
In just less than two weeks, Barca lost 3 trophies: Champions league (2 weeks ago), La Liga (last sunday), Copa Del Rey (yesterday).

Martino is not good enough if I were the board. He makes a lot of coaching mistakes and he makes Messi unhappy at least 3 times already this season. Sack him and return to any la masia coach.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:33 PM
0
Neymar and Jordi Alba are both injured and will be out for a month..

Its not a nice thing to wish injury upon other fellow Argentinian players no matter their abilities on the pitch..Its just really low to go in that direction...smh


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:30 PM
1
I want to make prediction. Soon, I think before the World Cup, the media will talk about Messi can not play together with Neymar. Just watch!

Secondly, if I am not mistaken, the deadline of the 30 players is BEFORE the last game of the season of Italy serie A and Spain first division.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:17 PM
0
I m praying romero to get injured... wat was he doing for de 1st goal last night...!!! Look like a fielder seized to take catch in cricket... Horrible... Is jst behaves like a joker on pitch...


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:04 PM
0
The injury to Pipita was in training and he abandoned training as a precaution. They say he will be fine in a couple of days.

Augusto Fernandez is injured - calf/ankle injury - and will be out for a couple of weeks at least.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:47 PM
0
@julker i saw it on tycaports an argentine futbol channel.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:41 PM
3
Gago has always been one of my favorite Argentine players, and I can’t imagine a Argentina team in Brazil this summer without Gago...Gago is one of our most important players and there is no ifs and buts about his presence on the national team...Gago has done a splendidly great job under Sabella for Argentina. This is just how I feel at the moment, when I first heard the news about Gago injury, I was shell shock, and it took me a while to absorb this kind of bad news just 2 months out from the FIFA world cup, but thank goodness Gago injury recover time is now down to 35 days from the original 60 days that was first put out at first over the Web. Well I agree with @EL Pipita that this latest injury setback for Gago might be a ploy by his doctors to have him ready and fit for the world cup, because while the European season is coming to an end, the Argentina Premier Division is at a crucial stage, so if its best for Gago to miss this part of the season while recovering then so be it…I see no reason why Gago won’t make it in time for the world cup, it’s too early to start writing off Gago chances….It was said that Khedira was going to miss the world cup this summer but he’s already back in Real Madrid training since Monday. Let’s just hope and pray that Gago make the world cup on time. I still see Gago being selected by Sabella for both the 30 man squad and the final 23 man squad…Argentina depth is strong and I don’t even need to bother bring up players name that could step up for Argentina if that were to be the case.At the moment we are loaded with talent and depth in our squad both on it and outside of the squad. The biggest mistake Maradona made was leaving out Gago and Riquelme back in 2010..If you notice during the 2008 Olympics football tournament, the Riquelme – Mascherano-Gago midfield was one of the main reason Argentina won the GOLD medal especially the semifinal game against Brazil. Up to this day I still can’t understand why Maradona did not select Gago and Riqueleme for the 2010 world cup...


Now I don’t get the panic over Messi current situation on this board, Messi is fine as a footballer, it’s clear that things are not going great off the field at Barcelona, I already wrote about this two weeks ago so I see no need to elaborate again. This is all I have to say, while Messi don’t seem energetic as of late it’s also evident that Alves form has been poor for a while, Alves was also poor during the 4 – 3 win for Barcelona at the Bernabeu…Yesterday Alves had another poor game and it was his turnover that led to the Di Maria goal, Alves crosses has been mediocre at best lately, can’t remember the last time Alves made a good cross for Barcelona in the opponent 18 yard box. We all know Xavi and Iniesta are great midfielders but most of Messi goals come through Dani Alves not Iniesta and xavi, that’s why Alves has the most assist on Messi goals than both Xavi and Iniesta combine. If Alves and Messi are not at their best on a particular day then Barcelona will struggle no matter how good Xavi and Iniesta play, Barcelona are dangerous when Alves and Messi are at their best…Another thing is Fabgregas, this guy is so overrated, I don’t know why Tata keep on starting him, because playing Fabregas is always an advantage to the other teams especially stronger teams.. Fabregas always perform poor against tough teams, he show up in games where the teams are usually weaker than Barcelona… I don’t get Tata, Barcelona were struggling for goals then why was Pedro and Sanchez both on the bench and insisting on playing Fabregas as a false nine? You could see that Messi was not happy with Fabregas and it was not the first game, I saw this in other games prior to the CDR final yesterday.


Now to Neymar, people here worrying about Messi, but remember the guy is a champion, Neymar on the other hand got an empty goal to score yesterday and flunk in front of an empty net and he also had a poor game to go with that as well. So imagine the pressure this 22 year old kid will be under at the world cup? As I always said, Neymar is a show-boater and his style of play won’t last in the European game, maybe he should get some advice from Denelson because he did not manage to have an impact in Europe (that being said, Denelson was still crucial for Brazil when they lift the world cup back in 2002) Robinho to some extent was also a major flop in Europe. Agree with @Kenneth that Messi will come out of the blocks swinging at the world cup…Messi will be motivated as ever to win the world cup in Brazil after coming off a mediocre season (team wise not individual wise) with Barcelona… People fail to realize that Messi is the top goal scorer in 2014 when it comes to all the major leagues in Europe…I must admit that I was spoil my Messi throughout the years and would have love to see him lifting the cup yesterday but it’s also evident that Messi eyes is on the BIGGEST price of them all and that’s the world cup trophy. ..At the end of the day Messi is a human being and for someone who has been plaque by hamstring injuries throughout this season then you can see why Messi is reluctant to go at a full 100% most recently with the biggest tournament of his career coming up in two months’ time...I feel even Tata have spoken to Messi about Argentina world cup chances and that the country will need him, heck even Semeone said it a while back, so who to tell, Messi probably thinking about all these things while playing for Barcelona which can disrupt his game...A Argentina camp before the world cup and playing against teams like Bosnia, Iran and Nigeria during the world cup, will give Messi the boost he need especially in front of sold out crowds. My main concern for Argentina is that the team doesn't peak too soon all the way to the round of 16 then starts finding it hard to score goals in the lather stage of the tournament. That’s one of the things I barely here people on this board talk about, yes its possible Argentina might score like 13 -15 goals by the time they get to the quarter final but I hope the team doesn't run out of ideas by the time the quarter and the semis comes around..


This is my humble opinion on the current situation going on, feel free to read or dislike..

Greets!!


Julker9
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:34 PM
0
@Dinucci, Plz give me the link !


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 12:50 PM
0
@argentuban

that video of romero is very scary !! he is a mediocre keeper and doesnot deserve to be in the 23 man squad let alone our no1 keeper... barca negled their defensive issues and look what bayern did to them... romero is a disaster waiting to happen!!! sabella plzz do something before it too late!!


TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 12:00 PM
2
Great inputs Johnny, msi2, Rahat, Pep (thanks for the insights).

I am with Johnny on the Romero issue. I'm really not expecting a change in Sabella's choices. Willy and Speroni (guy has been pretty sensational for Crystal Palace this season) are noticeably better, in form, and match sharp , but somehow never considered for the squad, which really is strange. I have just given it up really - maybe Sabella had a dream of an image where he and Romero were taking a selfie lifting the WC !

Midfield subs are another thing- Alverez is a good dribber, extremely one-footed, but can't defend and has had a dip in form . Augusto is actually fairly decent, has good speed, strong, but again can't defend much! Sosa can't even tie his shoelaces properly, let alone defend or attack! :-) I went for these 3 names simply because they have been called up often. If it as only between these 3 , I'd choose Augusto .

Inter are officially bonkers! Thanks for Coutinho!

Pep: Question- for you. My understanding is that playing the 5-3-2 (3-5-2) automatically means we need tremendous, speedy wing-backs with really good stamina to track back as well as bomb forward (an example is someone like Antonio Valencia for instance who gives the flexibility). If the backs don't charge forward often enough, the team is then forced to play extremely narrow in the midfield and invite a lot of possession and pressure from the center of the field from the opposing team. Would that be right? If that's correct, do you think our current backs (Zabby, Rojo/sub) are good enough for such a formation?




Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:58 AM
0
Higuain injured


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:57 AM
0
It's just so frustrating to see us risk so much talent on a position for which we clearly have much, much better suited players. It isn't even like leaving a well behaved and team player Tevez off the team, as fantastic as he would be, because we have loads of talent at forward. It's leaving Barovero and Caballero and others off the team....for what?


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:49 AM
0
We are the strong contenders of world cup and look at the goal keepers we have... Anything can say, bt itz crystal clear that our GKs are nowhere near de class of our players... Smart teams will exploit a single weakness we hav to de most... The game plan of our opposition is gonna be jst hit the shot on target...


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:32 AM
2
I've long since put the goalkeeper issue in a box not to be opened unless it costs us down the road, though I understand the concerns. I'm hoping Sabella knows something we don't about Romero, though I have a hard time figuring out what it is.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:27 AM
0
Johnny, the link I just posted shows our biggest trouble outside of our box to box position. If Romero is our goalie, it's like giving the opposing team at least one free goal as a handicap.

Sorry. I want Argentina to win like the rest of us, but the guy is just not playing well at all, when he is playing, and long shots at goal and crosses will eat him alive.

I hope Sabella wakes the fuck up.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:23 AM
0
Ys... the 1st one who criticised russel s messi... Aftr dat all other prblms had n he gt down frm barca... I think he had de hands on tax issues of messi, n messi realised dos wen he was accused n enquiries done on dat... Datz y he gone for harsh words open against rossel...


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:22 AM
1
Romero was an unmitigated disaster for Monaco the other day. Anyone who saw that match should know with him in goal we are fucked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOQDSqejpLo

Why is this clown our goalkeeper?


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:16 AM
0
They're crazy msi2 !

Here's an article from The Guardian about our "troubles":

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/apr/17/argentina-lionel-messi-fernando-gago-world-cup


msi2
(France)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:07 AM
0
It's Inter Johnny, they are interested in anything.


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 11:04 AM
0
Inter has confirmed that they have an interest in Fernando Torres, Edin Dzeko and Morata from RM. What does this say about Icardi ? You have to think that maybe Icardi is going to be moved...or do you ?

BTW, why Inter would be interested in either Torres or Dzeko boggles the mind. Torres is as broken a striker as I have seen and Dzeko makes one goal for every umpteen million attempts.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 10:31 AM
1
Rahat, i think everyone agree willy would be a better choice than romero ...aside from that, opinions and feelings are mixed...gago wasnt doing great, and banega is inconsistent; so people are not worried about gago'injury ... who has been doing great is defensive midfielder lucas romero ....but he is only 19... so some people really want him on the team and others say he is to young... but for sure the guy has tons of energy and is talented...


Rahat
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 10:22 AM
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Guardiola Interview:
In an interview with Sport.es, former Barca boss Guardiola said that Messi has “disappeared” key moments of the season which is a “huge handicap for a team”.
Guardiola does not believe that the Argentine’s form in big games is necessarily down to him and claims that something in the Barca “environment does not work”
The Bayern boss thinks that Messi has been unprotected both inside and outside the club as his problems with the IRS took hold.
Messi was summoned to appear in Spanish court earlier in the season over claims of tax evasion.
Guardiola believes that was the beginning of Messi’s poor season as he sought refuge in Argentina.
The only trophy Messi is yet to win is the World Cup and will hope to do so in Brazil this summer, however, Guardiola added that Messi will not be able to do it alone.
Source: www.footballdirectnews.com


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 10:18 AM
2
TheVickerman, sabella used a 352/532 because of the players he had, which are in general, similar to the players that argentina produces ... but in general i think sabella prefers a 442...the 433 he uses it because of the quality messi and dimaria...

sabella used the 352, basically because he did not have great wingbacks... but he still wanted the wingbacks to be involved in the midfield and have the freedom to go forward and do crosses...

in a 433, or 442, since his wingbacks were not great, they could not both attack and defend... but if he had 3 centerback, it did not matter that his wingbacks were not great, because one of the centerback could cover for the wingback if he did not get back on time...

basically, as he explained once, it had a lot to do with overpowering other teams midfielder, and it worked particularly well with against 433 formations...

note, that brazil also used a 352 in 2002, but it was for a different reason, basically because it lacked any good defensive midfielder, and with a 352, you only need one defensive midfielder...


prefers a 442, as I think do most coaches... a 433 tends to expose the wingbacks too much, and argentina generally does not like that...



Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 10:15 AM
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I think masch-biglia prtnrship at mid itself increase our dfnsv part btr dan dat of masch-gago...


Rahat
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 10:13 AM
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@pep, Nice to have an Argentine who is living in Argentina right now. Thanks for joining here.
How do you Argentine people rate this current National Team? Are people optimistic that this year Argentina can win the WC? Tell us about the current scenario in your country regarding WC.


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 10:13 AM
1
At his disposal Vick.

The other question you posed is a tougher one. I haven't watched A. Fernandez enough to have an opinion. I remain a stalwart anti-Sosa disciple. That leaves Ricky.

But I'd take Andy D before all three of them and throw caution to the wind.:) Tell Masche to gird his loins and let it rip.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 10:06 AM
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The men at central mid need to be players wit good dfnsv skill, dos who can break plays at high up at pitch itself... Otherwise wen de oppossition get break counter will b easily own, ball will reach our own half in scnds... Di maria n modric r nt great tacklers, bt r gud interceptors... Bt barca hav nt dat kind f players in central mid... Only busq, iniesta n xavi r nt capable, out f dat cesc is better dfnsvly... If CM players itself cant dfnd properly we cant ask frwds or wing attacks to dfnd... All tata can do to make dfnc btr is keep good holders in midfield nd increase possession n avoid loose balls at crucial spaces... Also he cant increase de num f dfnsv players coz lack of goals... Datz de main reason imo for dis situation coz last years also they conceded almost in this rate bt scoring rate was been higher... Bt dis year 2nd half f season scoring rate is been so less... Datz mainly bcoz f messi's situation... Of course his lack of experience in europe n pressure on n off de pitch is restricting him taking out the box decisions...


TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 9:37 AM
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@Pep, interesting that you talk about the 3-5-2 system that Sabella employed with Estudiantes. Do you think he used that system because he was comfortable with only that system, or was it because of the type and limitations of the players he had at his disposal?


niklucky02
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 9:35 AM
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I don't know but there is a possibility that Messi is doing this intentionally to get off the pedal just before the WC 2014. We all know if Messi arrives with a bang, all team would closely mark Messi right from the scratch.Also the pressure and expectation of the people would be a extra baggage.
Hopefully everything goes fine in WC 2014.
Cheers!


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 9:31 AM
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Ricky Alvarez


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 9:31 AM
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TheVickerman, banega is talented, though in incosistent, but when he is good, he is world class... and i think biglia is great. how good they are mayube the pleasent surprise of the world cup


TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 9:25 AM
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Deb- great points! Agree about both Messi's fitness levels and on plan B- I am with you on the point that it would be a very useful alternative. The only need I see with the high, possession-based midfield is the the lack of 1 true world-class playmaker (eg. Riquelme, Zidane types), who can truly dictate the "Pace" of the game.

In fact, if I am not wrong, Sabella does follow that approach too, when he wants to change things up during the game. It seems to begin with a primary 4-3-3 formation - which is almost a 4-3-1-2 with Messi is a floater. The recent line ups seem to be: Masche-Gago (biglia may take this place) -Di maria and Messi- Aguero-Higuain further up.

In-game: Based on the situation, 1 of the changes Sabella makes seems to be to 4-4-2 system. This is when one of the strikers is off-color for they/ or Sabella feels that Argentina has been ineffective on the counter , and tries to wrest some control over the midfield. This is when he sometimes takes one of strikers out (Aguero for instance), pushes Messi further up, and brings in Banega/Augusto/Sosa types to crowd the midfield in an attempt to regain control and look for options.

I wish we had 1 stand-out midfielder coming off the bench who gives us that unique skill set and consistency. Banega has that skill set , (offense, he also can press very well, retains ball excellently on his day) , but just wish we knew what we were going to get from him more often! :-). Not sure how his form is these days either!

Note: Of course , we have also gone for a defensive 5-3-2 in the earlier WCQs, I hope we don't see that in the WC though.


Here is a discussion question for you all : Out of the following options only, if you had to pick 1 as a midfield sub , who would you pick and why:

Jose Sosa, Augusto Fernandez, Ricky Alvarez

I am curious to see the answers for this one :-)


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 9:18 AM
1
i would rather see icardi than lamela... but sabella is a good coach and great tactician, i saw all his estuiantes games, and I think his preferred system is the 5 3 2 defending (3 5 2 with the ball) .... where the two wing back were basically centre back converted like rojo ... the team would pressure well the full court play lots of crosses which is why having a 9 was so important... i think because of messi he is considering the 433 as a better system, but i hope against the big team sabella falls back to his favorite system...


ForeverBatiGol
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 9:05 AM
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Lamela's season is over. He'll not play anymore games for spurs this season.& he needs a full preseason to get match fit. These are the words of spurs boss sherwood & we can say that he has no chance of making to the WC in Brasil..But Sabella is our coach, anything impossible can happen..


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:56 AM
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Pradeep,
barcelona at is best was about pressuring up, defending in their other teams area to recover the ball and thereby creating goal opportunities... combining what atletico did to barcelona in the first 20 minutes, with possession ...

no doubt, barca lost keita, abidal, and puyol... but martino made the problems worse... to give you an example, by playing cesc and neymar, over the hard working and more defensive oriented alexis and pedro...

against madrid, barca would have been a better team, for example, if the line up had been, alba masche bartra alves iniesta busi cesc messi neymar adriano...with adriano defending and pressuring up there, the same way that pep sometimes used him, as a third wing back...






Deb
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:46 AM
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@TheVickerman: Hell yeah. Messi fits in as a great No. 10 for us. His priority with Argentina is not to score a lot of goals just like Barcelona. Precisely one of the reasons why he requested Sabella to have 2 strikers ahead of him as that suits his style with us.

My previous point was to have a Plan B as well so that at times when we might need Lionel Messi the scorer more than Lionel Messi the playmaker, we do have a solid midfield to back that and don't expose ourselves to counters. Also, Lionel Messi has a wonderful combination with Di Maria and Higuain. If we have to make full use of it, we might just want him to stay as close to them as possible. That's why maintaining a high midfield seems to be a good idea to me.

But then you are correct. Our attacks should start from Messi and not anyone else. That suits us best. Only hoping he can keep that physical level and work rate for as long as a month in Brazil. In Barcelona, his strength over the years (something Pep discovered) has been to keep himself stationed at particular positions in the attacking zone, run less and preserve his energy and then when the ball is passed to him, execute that deadly acceleration with the ball and do his magic. As we are seeing our new style with Argentina, there is a complete different proposition in hand. Lionel Messi cannot stand and rest and play in spells. He has to get involved in playmaking and sprints much more. Get active and running all the time. Quite a contrast.


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:40 AM
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i would prefer caballero as goolieed, but i think sabella is a good coach... he knows about futbol... and aside from his fixation with estudiantes, he is a tactician, he makes changes depending on the game, and that is good for messi...

coach wise, in argentina, i think messi is in good hands... if argentina plays a 5 3 2 the defense will be solid and messi will get a coulple of chances a game to score... if argentina playes 4 3 3 messi can drop in the midfield and create half a dozen chances a game for argentina... both systems have merits...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:33 AM
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Aftr all tata has better dfnsv n goal scoring record dan pep's glorious treble winning season... At dat time pep had a much btr squad...messi n ibra upfrnt, iniesta, young xavi, yaya toure busq at mid, abidal-puyol-pique-maxwell at back... He is cnsdrd as one f de best in business, n tata has a btr record dan him wit a weaker squad in de very 1st year at europe... I personally wish him as nxt coach coz i m not sure simeone atleti style f play suit ohr NT...Of course he is a brlliant coach may implement style our NT suit, i mean i wont b sad if tata appointed b4 simeone coms to national level, coz i believe he is a good coach, both attacking n dfnsv wise...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 8:16 AM
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The dfrnc between barca last year n dis year is till last year tbey hold de possession in de opposition half waiting for de opening, they continue their passing patiently for a long time waiting for de opening... Bt this year they r little more direct, releasing de ball more quickly to de box, not dat much patient play as of last years... Result, num f breaks allowed to de opposition increased... And their play was too slow dan dis year's, tata added little more intensity to their game, we can see num of goals scored by them early dis year... They were been 2nd to man city in de num of goals scored at one stage f season... Bt as season goes on de new style f play affected deir fitness due to tight schedules n lack of depth in squad... Last year all stars played every competitions coz deir style f play was like dat, still pundits reviewed tiredness as a reason to deir humliation to bayern... And de most imprtnt reason is de lack of cntrbtn frm messi, datz de main reason for their struggle nw... Dfnc in box is poor, also only one who can cntrbt significantly in dfnc at central mid is only busq, no others can... So imo Tata isnt de person to criticise... The board who created dis situation is de culprit...


baker
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 7:40 AM
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mean time romero played in last match for monaco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nOQDSqejpLo


msi2
(France)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 7:29 AM
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pep> Don't say that because he could be the one who comes after Sabella after the WC (depending how we perform there).


pep
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 7:11 AM
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in 2003 zidane said, Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine ... Makélelé left madrid and beckham came... and madrid having just made it to four semifinals in a row and won two champions, didnt make it back to the semi finals in 10 years... neymar is barcelona's beckham...

what is wrong with messi is that in barcelona only busi and mascherano know how to defend, so, with tata consesus, messi cannot go to the midfield to get the ball, because if he loses the ball in the midfield, with no one behind, is basically a goal for the opposite team... so tata basically tells messi not to come to the midfield and to stay up there surrounded by four defenders...

tata is a terrible coach... last year barca defende was terrible... and this year it got worse. basically you had a team that did not defence, and tatas solution was to replace the two defensive hard working pedro and alexis with the lazy cesc and neymar...

so, you have a team of lazy players, with the exceptions of masche and busi...



TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 6:29 AM
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@pablo.d - thanks for that update man. I concur with you, Lamela has a lot of potential, but this season hasn't been it for him . Be it injuries, getting settled at a new club, the agony of having a manager like Dimmy Sherwood who seems to have the IQ of a flea, but Lamela at this rate probably is fighting a huge uphill battle to get into the squad.

The positives are of course the fact that he is insanely talented, offers something unique as a skill set- which might attract Sabella who probably looks at him as an impact-player kind of option. The other thing is the fact that Sabella can be pretty stubborn and stick to his choices . So while that works pretty badly (atleast with most of us fans) in the case of Sabella sticking on to Romero, Sosa et al., it might actually help in Lamela's case!


@El Principe - I felt the same watching Divemar- I meant Neymar- yesterday. His playing style is definitely different than the others, remains to be seen if it's a 1st year adjustment issue or a "la masia" product

@Johnny - Thank you :-). Dimmy Sherwood has been the gift that keeps giving this season.

@Vik - I see your points but I don't know man. It could be a question of motivation for many of the Barca players too, along with Messi. Unlike many others here, I don't rate Martino too highly - neither on his man-management skills nor his ability to strategically change games. I highly doubt Messi is "reserving himself" for the WC as you put it. If you aren't fit , you don't get on the field. If you get on the field, play your natural self - that's really the best way to avoid any injuries. Mentally too - if he decides to "reserve himself" especially in such big rivalry games , he potentially incurs the wrath of all the club fans, which is never good for the mentality of any player- not even one of the stature of Messi.


sandy
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 6:00 AM
0
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2605884/Has-Spain-turned-against-Lionel-Messi-As-Barcelonas-season-crumbles-golden-boy-criticised.html


vik
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:53 AM
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there must be a deeper underlining issue of why messi is performing way below par?
if there is any truth of him reserving himself for the world cup then i am afraid he wont be mentally fit. i guess you need to need to be in the right frame of mind to get the best out of your own game but under performing plus watching your club go through a slump cannot be a healthy condition?
what if messi knows that he can produce as and when?
that he knows he is more effective in the middle but slightly deeper?
what if the strategies that the NT has adopted (less possession and more direct ala counter) has made messi less effective when pressing higher and exert less energy?
in the last 3 years he has been brilliant for us than he has been for barcelona. only because we are better now with using more of the pitch with the type of players like Aguero Higuain and Di Maria (players that have adapted and brought up using space and play for longer periods without the ball).
messi at barcelona is a shadow of himself despite the return of goals. he seems much weaker playing in short spaces and less reactive to short and fast passes.
he would react first and control the ball far better when delivered to him at power and short spaces. but in the last 2 years for me his first touch eludes him.

its almost as if Messi knows that the game plan for the NT is complete opposite to Barca and his long term teachings that he has to sacrifice one of the methods.

we do play more like Real Madrid or even compare it to Brazil 2002. which is fine by me. we were the masters of keep ball but didnt have much success in terms of silverware so may be Sabella's new method of having less of the ball in the final third might be an alternative? it certainly has been far more direct.

Could it be that messi prefers this more of an expansive approach and has got bored of the whole tikki taka game that he has been moulded into?
certainly as a football fan i at first thought wow this is amazing but gradually the lack of end product finally kicks in and your usual response is pass-pass-pass-oh please god someone shoot!!!
thus maybe messi has been given more freedom with more space with argentina than the tight space for barcelona?
which then comes to the point that messi has become a player that could be suited to the pragmatic game aka mourhino style? and that it should favour us this summer and beyond.

Di Maria and Higuain are 2 players that are happier and suited in high intensity games where they know they might not get the ball for long periods. as such they are far more effective knowing that when they do get the ball they have to make far better use of it. hence thats why they are getting the plaudits they richly deserve.
this is not a scathing attack on messi's ability. hes one of the greatest of all time. but i would be concerned if messi performs like he has in the up and coming friendlies or even the first game against bosnia. because if he does then i would bench him regardless of who he is. because a reminder to him is that NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN THE ALBICELESTE SHIRT! NO ONE!
vamos argentina and roll on another 57 days!


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:52 AM
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@Vick-Dim Sherwood. Har Har.:) I salute you !


Batigol9
(Estonia)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:12 AM
1
Romero? Well, no comments, I have spoken this for years, that he is not good.

Remember this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZynS7SMoCiY

Great keepers like Buffon or Willy (not Cehc D:) do this kind of mistakes once or twice in whole career, Romero is so young, yet he has made soooo many mistakes...


Batigol9
(Estonia)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:07 AM
0
I think, Barcelona should sell Messi. I has always wanted to see Messi in some other club and I think, it would be great breath of fresh air both, to him and Barcelona


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 5:01 AM
1
@richard idgaf about what barca fans say about Messi, as long as he's healthy and roaring come summer time :).

Does anyone else have the feeling with Messi's poor form lately that he is just gonna go off at the world cup? Before i used to think that Messi would be more of a playmaker for Argentina but with his poor form i have a feeling he's gonna go crazy in Brazil and score 10-12 goals.


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 4:41 AM
1
Many posters have stated time and again that Romero had his achievements in the past, but SHOULD be replaced with Willy. Statistics, form, fitness, match rhythm, everything point is in Willy's favor.

But Sabella is stubborn. I think only massive pressure from Argentine media (both print and tv) can motivate him to think about other options than the current three GK's.

IMHO all three GK's should be replaced.


Boudou
(Lebanon)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 4:26 AM
1
Romero...oh Romero...really a disaster....what can we say? No need to stress anymore on the fact that he is mediocre. It breaks my heart seeing all the great players in sabella's squad and than noticing that in the goal we have this clown...we can never be assured that with him everything will be ok...
All my hopes are on the defense...a solid defense will prevent the danger on Romero...because when there is danger on him..he will definitely conceive a goal..


msi2
(France)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 4:03 AM
0
Richard>

I think if City is motivated to put the money on the table, they could get Messi this summer.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:22 AM
2
I notice several things during the game of Barca-Madrid last night. I can't help but think that this is one of the problems why Messi is unhappy now for Barca. The problem is called "NEYMAR".

Neymar has Tevez syndrome in him in that he loves to hold the ball and let him make the play. That style does not suit Messi at all. If Neymar wants to play like that, he'd better be partnered with Fred or Fabiano or Damiao, all those poachers.

That's actually how Tevez plays. I describe that as "playmaker forward". The difference between Neymar and Tevez is that Neymar is more excellent as wing forward while Tevez is more of center forward, but their DNA is playmaker forward.

I witnessed clearly during the game how Neymar penetrated from the left and Messi raised his two arms asking for the ball, but Neymar was busy trying to get past his two markers and ended up a goal kick. You know what Messi did after that? He was complaining with his arms and looked super duper unhappy as if saying to Neymar, "man are you blind or something? I am not that much of a midget!"

Guess what? After the error, Neymar did not even bother looking at Messi to say sorry or something. He thinks that his mistake was "I should have dribbled better", not "I should have passed the ball to Messi who was in no mans land"

The number two problem is the non la masia players upfront especially Alexis and Fabregas. Fabregas is ex la masia I know, but he spent too much time in Arsenal, so the team chemistry is not really there for him in BIG GAMES. Alexis has no chemistry whatsoever with Messi.

Did you notice that Fabregas only looks good in "unimportant" matches?

I don't have the stats for this, but I am 100% convinced that the stats will show that Messi score LESS goals when partnered with Neymar, Fabregas, and Alexis and score MORE goals when partnered with Pedro, Iniesta, or even Tello.

Back in Pep days, sometimes in big matches, Pep (or Tito) favorite upfront was Iniesta-Messi-Pedro backed up with Xavi-Tiago-Busquets in midfield. Those players all know to activate Messi unlike the group of Neymar-Fabregas-Alexis. Remember Alexis failed to shine under Pep! What does that tell you?

When Martino decides to always play Neymar and Fabregas in big matches as his 2 partners upfront, Messi get unhappy because he knows in the back of his head that these two can not supply him ball. He can not just rely on Iniesta or Xavi to supply him the ball.

That's why I saw for the first time Messi looks like Jose Sosa out there in that Barca play as if with 10 men. One of Jose Sosa's best attributes is that he is mastered in making his team play as if with 10 men.

I know there are many other problems, but remember Messi once was interviewed about Barca playing different now from the Pep era, and he was criticizing Martino softly saying that "he is a new coach and don't know much about our philosophy. So it is normal if we look different". Well we can tell how he feels from just reading that.


Amlan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:17 AM
0
The more closer the world cup is getting, the more I am getting concerned with Argentine players' injury and Messi.

If I could contact him right now I would grovel before him to tell me what his current problems are.


Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:17 AM
0
Talked to a few Barca fans. They are furious. Messi earns more money per day than they earn in a whole year. The earlier games they thought he was disrespectful, yesterday was an insult to the fans and the club. They even said that Messi should be benched if he only walks on the pitch. Barca were playing with 10 men.

Not my opinion but those of three Barca fans.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 3:03 AM
2
TheVickerman:"Pretty sure there are a couple of Spurs fans here "
yep that's me and I can only describe this season for both Tottenham and lamela as a " Annus horribilis"

Its bazaar as he seems that he could play or is close to it, the spurs hierarchy want lamela to play very soon but timmy the p.e teacher has other ideas.
the sooner little timmy is gone the better.
most Tottenham fans are cursing our bad luck to get a fantastic player in lamella only to have him lost most of the season to injury.

im a big fan on the lad but he does not deserve to go to this years w.c, those in form should be rewarded and add to it reality is lamela is not a key or even part player for the n/t yet.

lamelas time will come as he has the potential to be a stunning player from both my Tottenham and the n/t



Richard
(Netherlands)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:53 AM
0
Quite shocking to see that Messi was not motivated for the cup final against Real Madrid. Three bad games in a row for our super star. If this continues his 7 year goal draught in a big tournament will continue until at least the next Copa America. The lack of motivation against Granada is understandable, but a final against your arch enemy?

With Lamela still injured and out of the WC, it is sad to see that Icardi won't be going either. He planned his mariage and honeymoon just before and during the WC.

Positives are the return of Aguero and Higuains return to scoring goals!


TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:24 AM
0
Ayr18 - Bro I'm not sure if Lamela is fully fit yet. It's another matter that even if he is fit, Dim Sherwood would even give him a bench spot.

Pretty sure there are a couple of Spurs fans here who can enlighten us on the topic. There's not much news about Lamela these days, and all signs point to an alien abduction really :-)


TheVickerman
(India)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 2:16 AM
0
Those who believe in the notion that Messi is consciously not exerting himself and being extra careful to make sure he doesn't pick up injuries before the world cup should really think again:

1. Why the heck will he want to antagonize the faith of all the Barca fans now? This is part of his career too! This is where he has been for so long, and has to come back to after the WC. The last thing you want to do is piss the fans off and lose their goodwill. You simply wont survive as a player.

2. One is much more likely to pick up an injury being extra-careful, than just not thinking about it consciously, and going all out and playing your natural game.

3. @Deb especially! - Brother, this was a kind of game I was referring to. Messi was playing way up the pitch, almost as a central striker . He looked pretty lethargic and clueless. It simply doesn't come naturally to him. This is with the likes of Xavi and Iniesta creating chances. These guys are among the world's top 10 midfielders for sure. Messi got more involved as he dropped further back to get the ball and use the space ahead of him to create chances for others or run at defenders. That is really his strength.

Shocking, abysmal performance by Barcelona . Full disclaimer : I am neither a Barca nor a Madrid fan :-). Both teams can suck it. I am just worried about Messi's mental make-up as the WC approaches.
Di maria, on the other hand, should definitely be over the moon these days :-)


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:39 AM
0
Yep its an official twitter page...https://twitter.com/AleSabellaDT


msi2
(France)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:30 AM
0
Is it his real twitter account???


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:20 AM
0
Alejandro Sabella ‏@AleSabellaDT Apr 14
DEBO COMUNICAR QUE MAURO ICARDI HA SIDO DESAFECTADO DE NUESTRO PROYECTO DE SELECCIÓN Y NO SERÁ CONVOCADO MIENTRAS YO SEA DT. SALUDOS SABELLA

Sabella Won't call Icardi this was after the Sampdoria game Icardi's personality is bad he is too immature hopefully Lamela gets some playing time for Argentina so he can play in the worldcup stupid tim sherwood won't play him.


Diego-maniac
(Lebanon)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:16 AM
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aguero took a tough tackle fm Wes brown but he is not injured ... He continued the game nd was substituted in min 60 becoz he is not fully match fit yet... Zabaletta also took a strong knock in 1st half while tackling to save man city fm a goal... But he also managed to complete the full 90 minutes nd was one of the best players of man city on the field ..

As for messi it's clear he is showing dis interest in playing for barca; I beleive it's mainly related to fear from injury becoz messi is avoiding any physical clashes nd tries to get rid of the ball as soon as he gets it... It's clear that messi doesn't want to do his runs two months before the World Cup which is risky becoz players tackle him harshly... Yesterday at the end of the match he tried a run nd while he managed to pass pepes tackle once he dribbled Alonso he tackled him harshly... To stop him... So I'm not worried about messi even after directly returning fm injury he showed some gr8 form relative to a player who was sidelined for 2 months...

As for Romero I checked the match highlights he made 2 crucial saves for Monaco. While he could have done better on the 1st goal; the 2nd nd 3rd goals r not at all easy to save; the players were alone unmarked in front of the goal...


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 1:14 AM
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it is clear romero is not national team material but sabella is still insisting on him,argentina coaches are always standing in the way of glory


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 12:34 AM
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Hmmmmm...so the news of Gago's demise seem to have been greatly exaggerated! I wonder if this all a ploy to get him ready and fit for the world cup.
If that's the case then I'm over the moon, but if his injury is truly serious then I am totally against rushing him back for the world because he won't last half a match as the tournament's intensity rages on in the second round on wards.

As for Messi, well as long as he's not injured I wont worry. Like Johnny said Barca is having alot of troubles and as such it would only be natural for pulga's form to be affected.
All Messi has to do now is conserve his energy and build up his mental momentum so he could destroy Argentina's enemies in the WC.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 12:30 AM
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Romero is awful my god Wth he is a worse keeper then my rec team keeper.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 4/17/2014 at 12:19 AM
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Start him vs Iran to warm him up then in round of 16.


cleanball
(Indonesia)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 11:31 PM
1
Gago is an important and integral Sabella's playing strategy, i keep my trust that he can have a speedy recovery and play at WC. He was born to shine at N/T level not just club level.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 11:20 PM
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people have to forget about barca, we don,t care about them we only care about argentina let us think about argentina the world cup is coming up


xtreme
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 11:14 PM
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@Mr. khan, it's not about reserving energy, but rather avoiding injuries. We all know how Messi cant be stopped unless he's being fouled or being tackled recklessly and that will put him in great risk of being injured. I'm sure that's what going on his mind right now with world cup just around the corner. Also, Messi played a lot of matches and if he were to go all out every single match, he'd probably put too much pressure on his muscles and that might reinjure his hamstring again which bother him for so long....

All in all, yes Messi hasn't been himself, but it's not about reserving energy. It's about playing smart and do what he can without putting himself in danger of missing the world cup which is the only trophy left to be filled in his resume.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 11:03 PM
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@messi genius
we are helpless!


cleanball
(Indonesia)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 11:00 PM
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Barca's players lost the appetite and passionate; is it the beginning of downfall, not a good thing for Messi and Masche mental and phys.
Althogh, main problem for Barca are on the back room problem rather than technical but it bring big impact to the players involve in this situation, especially the confidence level and harmony.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 10:49 PM
2
has any one seen romero clown act today Monaco lost 3-1 to guingamp in the French cup be worried argentina fans


Khan
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 10:37 PM
1
It's just awful to hear "Messi is keeping his energy for the world cup!" This 'Selfish' tag is quite ridiculous. How can you reserve your energy for next if you play a classico finale? Messi is not in his best & Barça have a lot of problems, That's it..


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 10:28 PM
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Barca are a club and a team that are foundering right now. They still have oodles of talented players but their mental attitude is poor and they have lost their grit. Pujol is no longer capable of leading them given his lack of playing time. Management since Rosell was elected has been horrible, and even with his departure there remain everything he screwed up while he was there. The Neymar signing fiasco, the underage mess that might lead to a two transfer window ban. Add in Valdez's injury, questionable belief in Martino, and the inevitable ennui that begins to set in after so many years of being top dog.

Too much to think that Messi wouldn't be affected as well as others. I love Messi, but he is not a true blue vocal leader, and Barca clearly has no chin up leaders on the pitch anymore.

Surely Martino will be canned after the season, Barca will appeal the transfer ban, and we will see what tomorrow brings.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 10:15 PM
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Guess who is going to Disney World?

http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/82938088408/carlos-tevez-to-skip-watching-argentina-play-during


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 9:59 PM
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messi can,t be good two ago and be terrible now so something is wrong off field


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 9:18 PM
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dimaria is the best attacking mid in the world At the moment !!! now just let madrid lose against bayern and keep yourself fresh and fit for the world cup!


mmh007
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 9:06 PM
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@Dfox
Right. Do be honest I don't give a shiit if Messi take rest for 2 weeks.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 7:47 PM
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I didn't watch the game, but it didn't seem serious, at least now he out for the rest for the season.

Honestly guys, this what we were ALL HOPING for, for our player to get their REST...... right?


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 7:45 PM
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Barcelona was completely out of it, Inesita diving or trying to dive shortly after the game started!!!!, Messi whining about not getting a P when there was none to give, throwing his arms in the air after starring down Neymar when he didn't pass him the ball, defense was pathetic and it would have been worse if pretty boy was playing, Neymar almost head-butting Pepe from all people and for once out of a million, Pepe was innocent......... Cesc I don't know what the hell he was doing...........


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 7:42 PM
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Is kun injured?


El Payaso
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 7:32 PM
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I think Real was more "humble" today, much more disciplined on defense than they were from 3 weeks ago.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 7:15 PM
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What's the difference between now and when they last beat RM, 3weeks ago?

Its gotta be more than just the formation.

Some say he's not being himself because he's saving himself for the WC.

Some say he's not happy because of the formation and being away from all the action.

Some say its not about the formation, but that he's just been under a lot of stress lately and change of scenery is what the doctor ordered.


El Payaso
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 6:57 PM
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This was Barcelona's only chance for the season. I fail to understand the "disinterested" part. I think Tata got it wrong today tactically. The 4-3-3 suit messi better than when its just him and neymar in the front






Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 6:44 PM
0
he wont be with Argentina and that's what matters.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 6:44 PM
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He seems disinterested.



Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 6:38 PM
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I am convinced messi is saving his energy for the wc


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 6:32 PM
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I feel bad for Tata because he came into a situation which he probably saw as perfect, little did he know that he was walking into a deathtrap.

I'm sure he asked for more players and the answer was No every time and now we know why.

We should all be thankful for one thing, not running Messi into the ground and trying to protect him.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 6:27 PM
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Its a very worst phase for barca... Even if they sack tata next year, if de trnsfr ban remain, what will de new mngr do wit dis squad... Only advantage he gonna get will b de normal messi... And if he created magic again nxt year, in history it will b bcoz of tata poor mngmnt barca suffrred all these set backs dis year and may also conclude his tactics made messi underperform... I feel really sorry on him, poor man, jst a wrong time for him... N has to say dat if it was valdes wud hav saved atleast one f de goals tonight...


ArgiesFanIndia
(India)