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Posted by Roy Nemer (Roy Nemer) Thursday, April 03, 2014 Go To Comments

The Carlos TEVEZ saga

As the World Cup approaches, one name who will certainly not make the team for Argentina is Carlos TEVEZ. I'm by no means an expert on the matter, however, here is a little piece about his stance with Argentina which will hopefully give you a better understanding on the matter and ultimately help you decide whether you think he should be included on the Argentina team or not.

Carlos TEVEZ's situation is not his talent as it is undisputable. He is a winner and goalscorer at every club he has played with. It's not the talent but the baggage that comes with it which has been the problem in the past. His character makes him what he is, be it a good thing or a bad thing. I will first begin with a time line of TEVEZ's career with Argentina beginning with the 2010 World Cup until the present.

Post 2010 World Cup:
Following Argentina's humiliating 4-0 loss against Germany at the 2010 World Cup, news quickly began circulating about the future of not only Diego MARADONA as coach of the National Team but Carlos TEVEZ's future with the Argentina National Team. El apache as he is known admitted that the loss against Germany was very difficult and that retirement crossed his mind.

"There is only a little time remaining before I retire. I dreamt of returning to Argentina with the trophy. There were no fights in the World Cup, everything was positive, but it was the hardest thing that I've ever had to experience. Every day I have less will to continue playing in Europe and to carry on playing football. I will be there for two or three more years and then I will think about heading back to Argentina."

"For the last year, I haven't lived with my daughters. They are growing up and I'm getting worn down. After returning from South Africa, I thought about quitting football, but I have a large family and now I have to continue."

"Football doesn't make me as happy or as fulfilled as before. It becomes difficult to play like this."

Sergio BATISTA's first matches:
Despite those quotes, TEVEZ remained part of the team. Sergio BATISTA, team mate of Diego MARADONA when the country won its last World Cup in 1986, took charge of Argentina following the 2010 World Cup. His first match was against the team who had won that tournament, Spain. Carlos TEVEZ wasn't only on the team, but he was part of the starting XI and even scored in Argentina's 4-1 win in Buenos Aires. Following that victory, Carlos TEVEZ came out with some pretty interesting quotes about playing with Argentina.

"Every day, I feel further away from the National Team and I don't know if I'll go to the 2014 World Cup. I'm tired. Tired of always being here, of fighting to be in the team. There comes a time when your body starts to drag you down. The physical side doesn't help. I'm not here so I can get kicked and have to get up and continue for 90 minutes."

In October of that year, Argentina took part in a match against Japan. Once again, Carlos TEVEZ was on the team and played. On November 17, 2010, a match between Argentina and Brazil had been set, with it being taking place in Doha, Qatar. Many players for Argentina were pulling out of the match due to injuries. Some real, others possibly not as much. Carlos TEVEZ was one of the players who was called for the match but had to be left out due to an injury. The match took place, Argentina won 1-0 courtesy of a 90th minute goal from Lionel MESSI and all was well for Argentina. That is until Manchester City's match on November 21, four days after Argentina's match against Brazil, where Carlos TEVEZ scored twice in his team's 4-1 win against Fulham. Not bad for a player that was injured.

The match against Brazil was the last match for Argentina in the calendar year. The team opened up 2011 with a match against Portugal in February. When Sergio BATISTA announced the list of players for that match, one name was missing. Carlos TEVEZ. BATISTA stated that he didn't hold a grudge against the former Boca player but Julio GRONDONA, the president of the AFA, spoke differently on the matter.

"What Carlos TEVEZ did when he refused to go to Qatar with Argentina and play against Brazil but then played that same week for Manchester City, didn't bode well with our coaching staff. That is the real reason why BATISTA didn't call him up for the Portugal friendly".

What transpired was a chain of events involving Julio GRONDONA, Diego MARADONA (with whom GRONDONA has a feud with and who is good friends with TEVEZ), Carlos TEVEZ and Sergio BATISTA himself. GRONDONA starting with that quote, MARADONA defending TEVEZ and attacking GRONDONA in a way only Diego MARADONA can, BATISTA denying it and TEVEZ not really saying much about it.

The 2011 Copa America:
With the failure of 2010 still lingering in the shadows, the team, lead by two time World Player of the Year Lionel MESSI had a chance to lift Argentina's first trophy since 1993. Argentina was drawn into a relatively easy group alongside Bolivia, Colombia and Costa Rica's U23 team. The opening match in the tournament was Argentina against Bolivia, with it ending 1-1. The second match was another draw, this time against Colombia, with the match ending scoreless. Carlos TEVEZ started both matches. The opening two matches were extremely underwhelming with two poor performances from the host country. For the third and final group stage match against Costa Rica's U23 team, TEVEZ was dropped from the starting XI and against a much weaker opposition, Argentina shined and were eventual victors on the night, winning 3-0.

Argentina finished second in their group to Colombia and made it to the Quarter Finals. Uruguay was the opponent and Sergio BATISTA opted to go for the same players who started in the 3-0 demolition of Costa Rica. That meant TEVEZ would start on the bench. A match which saw 9 yellow cards and 2 red cards (one on each side), TEVEZ eventually came on as a substitute. With the score tied at 1-1, the match went to penalty kicks. With Javier MASCHERANO being the player red carded for Argentina, Lionel MESSI wore the captain's armband and was the first player in the penalty shootout. Out of the 10 players which took their penalty kicks, Carlos TEVEZ was the only one to miss his. Argentina were eliminated at home to the eventual champions. Little did anyone know that the match against Uruguay would be the last of Carlos TEVEZ's Argentina career.

The SABELLA era:
The Alejandro SABELLA era began in the summer of 2011, the same time as the South American qualifiers for the World Cup were starting. Among the changes which SABELLA made when he took over, appointing Lionel MESSI as team captain was one of them. This was a significant change as the armband went from Javier MASCHERANO to the three time World Player of the Year. If there was ever any doubt that Argentina was entering the Lionel MESSI era, this erased them all.

Argentina got off to a rocky start in the qualifiers but following a 2-1 comeback victory against Colombia in Baranquilla, Argentina's fortune changed. Top of the table in the South American standings included a stunning 3-0 victory against Uruguay, just over a year following their 2-1 penalty shootout loss. Lionel MESSI with a standout performance as he lead the team with two goals (one being a very cheeky free kick goal while rolling the ball under the wall) and an assist. Other victories included a 4-3 win against Brazil, three of those goals coming from Lionel MESSI, a 2-1 victory in Chile and a 3-0 victory against Paraguay. Amidst the victories, question marks were being raised as to why Carlos TEVEZ was not being included on the team. Rumors began circulating of problems between captain Lionel MESSI and TEVEZ himself. Speaking on a radio show in July of 2013, here's what TEVEZ had to say in terms of the National Team:

"I don't see myself as part of the national team for the next World Cup. I've never been considered by SABELLA. I don't miss playing for Argentina. The National Team went one way and I went the other. It's simple. What I don't want is to hear that it's me vs. MESSI."

About Lionel MESSI:
"It's been a while I haven't spoken to him. We've lost contact with each other. Concerning the fight, it's all a lie. With MESSI and I on the National Team, there's always been a comparison. That's bad. When we were together, there was none of that. But (with the National Team), you have MESSI fans and TEVEZ fans."

TEVEZ himself stated that he did not miss playing for the team. Yet, as was the case leading up to the 2011 Copa America, pressure from the media began mounting as they started asking current and previous players about the situation. In December 2013, TEVEZ was once again on a radio show in Argentina.

"SABELLA must not be asked to call me up... Let him work in peace because it's not easy for SABELLA not to call me. I know there's a lot of pressure especially from fans."

"I have no problems with the group and I get on great with MESSI. I don't lose sleep over the World Cup. I don't think I will watch it because it hurts me to see the National Team, it's bad for me."

In January 2014, Lionel MESSI finally spoke about the matter. When asked about TEVEZ's exclusion from the team, here was his response:

"It's the coach's decision if he decides to call him (TEVEZ) up. We have nothing to do with it. We have a great team and if TEVEZ gets called up, no problem."

Former Argentina captain Roberto AYALA spoke about the situation.

"TEVEZ should be on the Argentina National Team. For his quality, which is enormous. Unfortunately, the truth is that it doesn't look like he has a chance."

"I've always respected SABELLA's decisions, but with 3 months to go until the World Cup, if TEVEZ keeps playing like he has been playing with Juventus, he should be given a chance."

Angel DI MARIA even had something to say surrounding all the rumors.

"Alejandro SABELLA makes the decisions around here, not us. Not MESSI, not AGUERO, no one. There are always rumors. When things are going good, there always has to be problems."

"You just have to know that those things are lies and you can't care about them."

This brings us to the present. With those facts fully reported, there were some things that were not mentioned in that time line.

Rumors of rifts in the team during the 2011 Copa America surfaced at the time. Nicolas BURDISSO lashing out at MESSI for not defending enough in the team's second match at the tournament against Colombia. Javier ZANETTI, one of the leaders on the team, came out and attempted to cover the whole situation up with comments saying that what happened between BURDISSO and MESSI is something normal, and that even he got into an argument with Gabriel MILITO, but the two are friends. The locker room seemed to be divided, not for the first time in Argentina's history.

The Copa America came and went and along with it went Sergio BATISTA and part of the old guard (Gabriel MILITO, Javier ZANETTI. Martin DEMICHELIS and Nicolas BURDISSO would later be faded out of the team) and in came Alejandro SABELLA and fresh new faces. Ezequiel GARAY, Federico FERNANDEZ, Lucas BIGLIA and Ever BANEGA (who were in and out of the team under Sergio BATISTA have become regulars under Alejandro SABELLA).

With the old leaders out of the team, the veterans for Argentina suddenly became Javier MASCHERANO (captain at the time), Lionel MESSI and Carlos TEVEZ. Since the beginning of the SABELLA era, MESSI has been surrounded by friends. Players with whom he has played at since his U20 days. 11 of the 23 players currently on the team won gold at the 2008 Olympic games. Sergio ROMERO, Pablo ZABALETA, Ezequiel GARAY, Javier MASCHERANO, Jose SOSA, Angel DI MARIA, Sergio AGUERO, Ezequiel LAVEZZI, Fernando GAGO, Ever BANEGA and Lionel MESSI himself. Six of the 23 players currently on the team won gold at the 2005 U20 World Cup. Lucas BIGLIA, Pablo ZABALETA, Ezequiel GARAY, Fernando GAGO, Sergio AGUERO and Lionel MESSI. Four players of the 23 currently on the team won gold at the 2007 U20 World Cup. Sergio ROMERO, Ever BANEGA, Sergio AGUERO and Angel DI MARIA.

All those players have been together for years and the current feel from the outside is that Alejandro SABELLA wants to build a close knit group of not only players but of friends. Lionel along with MASCHERANO are two of the biggest leaders on the team (captain and second captain) and adding in a player who is extremely vocal like Carlos TEVEZ is something that is seen as a problem for many Argentina fans.

His situation and behavior leading up to and including the 2011 Copa America rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. TEVEZ showed up to the Copa a few kilos overweight and he didn't play too well when given the chance. He also happened to be the only player to miss his penalty in the shootout against Uruguay at the Copa America, a tournament which Argentina was hosting and expected to win. Be it a stroke of faith or him simply being unlucky, TEVEZ missed his penalty kick and Argentina were eliminated.

He has always had the backing of the media in Argentina. In the lead up to the 2010 World Cup, MESSI was getting destroyed by the public in his home land as well as those in charge of the newspapers. He was labeled a Catalan when he scored for Barcelona against Estudiantes de la Plata at the final of the 2010 Club World Cup. MESSI never played for a club in Argentina and didn't have the backing of Boca, River, Racing or Estudiantes fans. TEVEZ has the backing of one of the biggest clubs in Argentina, Boca Juniors.

When he was not on the team from January 2011 until the Copa America, Sergio BATISTA, who was the manager of Argentina at the time, was under constant pressure from the media and fans to call the people's player, TEVEZ to the team. He ultimately made the team for the 2011 Copa America. BATISTA later stated in an interview that pressure from the top got TEVEZ included. Pressure from the top being Julio GRONDONA and the AFA. When Sergio BATISTA submitted his list of 23 players who would be representing Argentina for the 2011 Copa America, Carlos TEVEZ's name was part of the 23 man squad.

I had mentioned how former Argentina coach Sergio BATISTA stated that pressure from the top got Carlos TEVEZ included in the team at the Copa America. This is what BATISTA had to say about it all in October 2013:

"There was pressure from the AFA and politics involved to get TEVEZ called-up to the team at the Copa America."

Many feel that the pressure from the AFA was due to the sponsors of the tournament. TEVEZ was and remains a very big name in South America and had he missed the tournament in Argentina, the feeling is that many of the sponsors would have been unhappy. With the World Cup being held in Brazil, the same rumors of sponsors getting involved have resurfaced. Whether or not SABELLA and the AFA crack and TEVEZ finds himself included on the team remains to be seen. However, it is unlikely.

Many get the impression that TEVEZ does not like to play in the World Cup qualifiers but has no problem participating at the World Cup. TEVEZ has stated throughout the qualifiers that he did not miss playing for Argentina. He said this more than once. As the World Cup approaches, he has changed his tune. He says that the reason he is not on the team is not because of him but due to the decision from Alejandro SABELLA. That ties in with the theory of him not wanting to do the dirty work of playing in the World Cup qualifiers (by saying that he does not miss playing for Argentina) and only wanting to play at the World Cup (by saying that it's not his decision if he plays or not, it's SABELLA's).

One thing which was not mentioned is that his goalscoring record for Argentina is atrocious. With a less than impressive 13 goals in 62 matches for Argentina, Maxi RODRIGUEZ, a midfielder, has 14 goals in 52 matches. Carlos TEVEZ also picked up two red cards in the 2010 World Cup qualifiers. The first against Colombia and the second against Paraguay. He also missed a penalty kick against Ecuador. Statistically speaking, the numbers are not on his side.

That is not to say TEVEZ has never done well for Argentina. He was the standout player at the 2004 Olympic games where Argentina, lead by TEVEZ, won gold. He was also one of Argentina's better players at the 2010 World Cup. Not only for his goals (one of which was a beauty against Mexico) but for his work rate.

Another thing that has to be mentioned is the influence which Lionel MESSI has in the locker room. While this article might be read as something against TEVEZ, despite what many might believe, MESSI has a great influence on the team. If MESSI himself were to publicly state or even speak to SABELLA privately and tell him that he would like to have TEVEZ on the Argentina team, I would not be surprised one bit if his name would be included on the World Cup team.

As mentioned, SABELLA has surrounded MESSI with friends and people he feels comfortable with and while it may or may not be the reason, Lionel has excelled under SABELLA. He is constantly the focal point of every attack and more often than not the creator of most of the goals scored. Many will say that TEVEZ has mature since his fall out at Manchester City and that he is a different player at Juventus. It could very well be true, but unless TEVEZ gets called for Argentina, we will never know.

From one point of view, you can say that SABELLA has without a doubt the most lethal forwards on the planet and adding TEVEZ would make it that much more deadly. But from the other side of the coin, is it worth taking what is already the best attack in world futbol and risking the team chemistry both on and off the pitch by adding TEVEZ, who while is a fantastic player, is vocal and has failed more often than not while playing for Argentina.

Hopefully this has given you a better understanding of what has transpired in the Carlos TEVEZ saga. I tried to dig up as many quotes as possible and I tried not to miss anything when writing this.




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wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 5/25/2014 at 5:01 PM
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Roy summed it up perfectly


Pardo
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 4/16/2014 at 9:56 PM
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TEVEZ WOULD GET INTO ANY NATIONAL TEAM SQUAD IN THE WORLD CUP, THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT! AGAINST ROMANIA WHAT DID OUR FAMOUS STRIKE FORCE DO? TEVEZ WILL ONLY INCREASE OUR STRENGTH IN SQUAD! DON'T JUST STATE HIS GOAL TALLY AND NOT MENTION HIS WORK RATE! HIS WORK RATE IS BETTER THAN ANY FWD AND HES IMPRESSED IN PAST WORLD CUPS. HATE HIM OR LOVE HIM, HES ONE PLAYER I WOULD INCLUDE.


pallab
(India)
Posted on 4/14/2014 at 2:43 AM
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TEVEZ'S TIME IS OVER..LEAVE HIM...ARGENTINA HAVE THE BEST STRIKERS IN THIS WC..IF WE NEED AN EXTRA SRTIKER.. WE SHOULD TAKE A TALL,STRONG,FAST STRIKER...BUT I DONT HAVE ANY IDEA OF SUCH A YOUNG FORWARD PLAYER...DO U HAVE FRIENDS ?


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/12/2014 at 4:31 AM
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@stocky everything you just said is what's wrong with all of these " argentina fans" now a days. Sorry to be blunt but that comment really made me SMH and i almost removed Mundo as a bookmark.


stocky
(Grenada)
Posted on 4/12/2014 at 12:51 AM
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my ten year old son wont pick palacio before tevez I guess that's the reason the argentina FA is already looking at a new coach... so all that I can say is that I cant wait for Sabella to vacate his position however I love Argentina but my dream will really come through if Tevez is called and we win the world cup


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 4/11/2014 at 6:11 PM
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So much for the demonstration calling for Tevez' inclusion to the national team.

Sebastian Srur - Recien pase x el Obelisco. 10 hinchas nada + pidiendo x Tevez a la Seleccion.

Only 10 people have showed. Probably all Boca fans. Probably holding as many signs calling for Juan Roman Riquelme to get a game.


holytoledo
(United States)
Posted on 4/10/2014 at 4:03 PM
1
Anyone hear about the demonstration that was supposed to take place in front of AFA offices protesting that Tevez has not been called up? I love Argentina. They don't like something, they'll assemble and make a big stink and cause all kinds of traffic.

@Kenneth, I love the Copa Libertadores. I'd like to see some of those european teams play in the conditions the south american teams have to play in and see how much better they'll fare. Flights from Chile or Argentina to Tijuana or Mexico City? Playing in La Paz or Cuzco? That Flamengo-Leon match last night was great. Mexican teams in CONMEBOL are fearless and travel well. Champions League has the stars of the game, Copa Libertadores has the passion of the game. It takes serious HUEVOS to win one.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/10/2014 at 12:19 PM
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@Abs

I am talking about the FORWARD position of Chile. Vidal is not a forward, Alexis is. Alexis is Chile best forward/winger/second striker. Vidal is their best midfielder.

@Marateva

You are entitled to your opinion, but 3 things:
1. It is not true that Sabella is afraid to call Tevez, or else, he will get sacked. It is the other way around. Everyone now in Argentina wants Tevez to be called, it is just Sabella sticks with his decision to not call him.

Two thumbs up for Sabella so far!

2. As much as you (or any fans everywhere) want Tevez to be included. It will NOT happen. Sorry. Face the reality...

Even if Mundo Albiceleste changed its name to Tevez Albiceleste and ole.com.ar changed its name to tevez.com.ar, Tevez will still not be called.

3. I strongly disagree in this: Messi is a superb player due to tiki taka football. It is too much when you say that. Messi is an extremely rare talent. Without tiki taka, he would have found a way to score the way he does today. I believe had Messi played for Madrid (say that CR7 were never Madrid player), he would have scored the same amount he does today.

... and Madrid do not play tiki taka.

Messi is the missing element of the perfect tiki taka not the other way around. Messi makes tiki taka looks good, NOT tiki taka makes Messi looks good. Rijkaard also played tiki taka, but Eto'o was his #9, it was never perfect until Pep discovered the missing link of the tiki taka: Lionel Messi.

You have to admit that Messi is an excellent counter attack player too. It is just he doesn't get to show that at Barca. With Argentina, the fantastic four counter attack is by far the scariest thing the world football has seen today.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/10/2014 at 5:59 AM
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An interesting quote by the commentator of chelsea-psg match " Itz europe champions league quartefinal n 60% of the players in pitch are south americans...."


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/10/2014 at 5:00 AM
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Anyone here watch Copa Libertadores today? San Lorenzo had to win 3-0 against Botafogo in order to progress depending on the other games score between a chilean and ecaudor side. A game in which ended 5-4 for the Ecaudor side they were winning 3-1 then began losing 4-3 then won 5-4, 4 goals from Angulo. And people say the Champions league is the most exciting.


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 4/10/2014 at 1:36 AM
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@el principe:

Vidal is the star, not Alexis !!


dollon
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/9/2014 at 1:21 PM
1
IT IS VERY BAD TO SEE SOME ARNENTINE PEOPLE TOLK TO MESSI.S ABILITY......MESSI IS THE BEST EVER.

YOU NEVER EVER SEE ANY ONE LIKE MESSI...........SO PLEASE DONT TOLK ABOUT YOUR MESSI.......


ForeverBatiGol
(India)
Posted on 4/9/2014 at 11:01 AM
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@Kenneth : Vergini isnt that bad as people is saying. Given he is new to the PL, his performances are ok but not great. Had one great game against Saints in the FA cup. Apart from that he made one horrible back pass to assist Giroud goal, Suarez gave him a hell of a night( referee was so kind to him that he didnt get sent off!).. but he was ok against spurs last monday.. His partners at sunderland aint good either to help him.. john oshea,wes brown,cuellar... not at all good..


Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 4/9/2014 at 11:01 AM
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Great article marateva , i appreciate it........ But being a argie fan we have to trust sabella and his 23 army . Somewhere i feel if their is really political disturbance in AFA then argentina football superiority in world will be finished.


Marateva
(Italy)
Posted on 4/9/2014 at 6:07 AM
1
Maradona quoted recently: "Tevez has not been with the national team because he had quarrel with Grondona and Carlos Bilardo. He is certainly not dead. He was simply killed"

Your quote from Batista: ""There was pressure from the AFA and politics involved to get TEVEZ called-up to the team at the Copa America."

Grondona is AFA president for god-know how many years. Carlos Bilardo is the general manager of national team. There is contradiction in the 2 quotes. Who knows who told the truth?

You forgot the Maradona quote.


Marateva
(Italy)
Posted on 4/9/2014 at 5:07 AM
1
That quote "I'm tired. Tired of always being here, of fighting to be in the team....The physical side doesn't help. I'm not here so I can get kicked and have to get up and continue for 90 minutes." sum up something about Tevez that some people miss.

The quote implies that he was the one who always fight, fight, and fight for win. And got kicked all the time because he plays fairly and no diver. If you don't dive, defenders tend to trouble you more. I saw him repeatedly being tackled by defenders fiercely with Juventus. Yet he still plays well.

Messi? Messi loves to stroll in Barca. Fight is never a thing for Messi as Messi relies too much on his skills, unique dribbling skill and his Tiki-taka. Tiki-taka gives Messi a comfort zone to play. Without Tiki-taka he struggled because he over-rely on it. Sabella tried to build him one Tiki-taka so that he can play well. He improved a lot now because of this. Messi never has to fight as everything, everyone just suits him, from AFA, Sabella, teammates down to a lot of fanboys.

Tevez knows he has to fight for a place all the time because he is not a golden boy like Messi, strolling about all the time. In football when things didn't get well, team didn't play well, Tevez had to step up and fight for the team knowing that skill alone won't bring you trophies. Skills and mentality equally important. This constant fighting really tired him. For Messi it is different, Messi only relies on his skills and Tiki-taka. Messi even quoted once that he dislike fighting (after a qualification match. Forgot which one).

Messi never really fought for Argentina team that is for sure. He will play well only if the team perform well, like Barcelona. Even Maradona has to fight for world cup glory, especially against England in 1986, what a fight that was! That kind of fiery mentality because of the ugly war against England. Messi will never have this as he grew up too comfortably.

So you can see there is unfairness inside the team. Every fanboys want Messi to play well, but hoping that Tevez not coming back to NT. What are they afraid of? Afraid that Tevez disrupt the team? Tevez NEVER causes any trouble in the dressing rooms. His teammates, current or former, always have good things to say about him. So those disharmony theory, disruption theory, are just stupid.

Afraid that Tevez could hinder Messi? If Messi is really the best player in the world, why could he get hindered by Tevez? Only the best can outshine others. The best won't be hindered by anyone. So this is another stupidity.

Messi over-reliance on Tiki-taka or Catalan style of football proves that he will never overtake Maradona as the best in the world. Maradona is the whole package. Maradano played different styles with NT and Napoli yet excel in them. Messi can't do that and he has no fight when his tiki-taka is broken, for eg the 0-7 defeat by Bayern Munich.

At Juventus, when Tevez played, He gave confidence to the team so that his teammates played even better. Though of course Juventus can play well without Tevez as they didn't rely on one player. Conte did a great job. Tevez's presence just oozzed more confidence.

Messi broke all the records in the world largely thanks to Tiki-taka. How well actually he can play without tiki-taka? Just look at his performance before Guardiola and before Sabella should tell you that. Definitely not a record-breaking guy back before that. Before tiki-taka.

Tevez has know-how to play in Brazil as he was Brazil league best player before. There was another best player as well, but that one went to China to earn money instead of testing himself in Europe.

Talk about team chemistry and some people afraid of Tevez spoiling it? Look back at how he and the rest beat Spain just right after World Cup 2010 painful defeat. Tevez ignored pain knowing that he might not have another chance to play in World cup anymore, and still played well. That is your proof of chemistry.

Tevez saga like this is partly the result of unfairness to Tevez. Tevez has to fight all the time. Messi doesn't have to. His friends Aguero, Lavezzi, Higuain also doesn't have to. Tevez suits in different style of football very well. Messi only suits tiki-taka, and everyone suits him.

Talk about politics, don't forget that AFA is somewhat corrupted. They promised Maradona to continue as manager until Copa America 2011 then they would decide his future. But they broke the promise by sacking him immediately after world cup. Tevez was loyal to Maradona thus leading to him ignoring call to play for Brazil. No one actually knows the true story whether he faked injury or not. All just speculation. One thing for sure, those old people in AFA like Grondona are corrupted. Tevez is not. At least Tevez stood up for Maradona. Aguero look diplomatic and sycophant, breaking up with Maradona's daughter afraid of AFA or something. Aguero never said a word in support of Maradona but always sing praise on Messi just to win favor. Such a coward.

I suspect Sabella is under pressure from AFA not to pick him. It is very unusual Sabella didn't even want to talk about this at all. If Sabella picks Tevez any time from now, AFA could sack him. AFA sacking Batista were just a warning to him. Tevez has two mentors, Carlos Bianchi and Bielsa. Bielsa wasn't picked over Sabella is understandable. But Bianchi NEVER ever get picked by AFA shows you there could be politics in play there.

If Sabella was under pressure NOT to pick Tevez or else he would risk getting sacked (Tevez mentioned recently it was Sabella choice, not political choice), the only time that he could pick Tevez is after the season is over, and world cup is imminent. AFA wouldn't dare to sack Sabella during that crucial time. And the last friendly against Romania, Sabella unusually picked ALL strikers to play in that game, even giving Lavezzi, Palacio 20-30 minutes to play, looked like he was evaluating his striking options.

Could be just my wishful thinking.

Batista said there was political pressure to pick Tevez. But he didn't actually mention pressure from AFA. Why the heck Tevez having fight with Grondona and some old men and AFA still pressured Batista to pick him? Doesn't make sense. The truth might be Batista was under pressure from AFA not to pick him. But AFA yielded under pressure from media, thus Tevez got picked.

Somehow Tevez just got stupid being too gutsy getting involved in ugly politics, unlike Aguero who stayed out of it and chose to be coward.

It is not a question whether Tevez should be in the NT. It is a question whether he is treated fairly or not. Gutsy guy like him should be given fair chance and be a valuable asset to the team.

Why are some people afraid of him? Don't know. Perhaps because he is the fearless one.


genius38
(Jamaica)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 7:59 PM
0
Thanks for the information on the Tevez saga, Argentina can't afford to risk stability by including a person who have sounded unstable and unpatriatic in his interviews, sorry Tevez the stake is too big to risk taking you to the world cup.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 6:10 PM
0
Aguero return is really concerned.... They rush him back n will catch injury back aftr 2 or 3 matches again.... Pellegrini told dat silva was been playing with an ankle injury for last games or somthing lik dat.... Exploiting to the max....


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 6:00 PM
0
Vergini is really struggling to english football.... Cant yet adapt to it... I watched an arsenal sunderland match with great excitement seeing his name in team sheet, n he gifted a back pass to giroud n resulted in goal.... Conceded 4 or 3 in dat match... Heard dat in last game against spurs also he was poor, passes were been off etc... They conceded 5.... Shud hav started at italy or spain, straight to england is afctng his european career itself....


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 5:26 PM
0
On another note i heard Vergini has been playing for sunderland and has been playing abysmal. Anyone watch him?


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 5:25 PM
1
@mafioso Veron too!


Deb
(India)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 4:42 PM
0
What do you guys feel, is Aguero being rushed back? He had 2 back to back hamstring pulls just a few weeks back and he is already back in the squad for the Liverpool match. Is it too much, or it's okay?


Deb
(India)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 4:40 PM
0
If we all know this now, chances are Messi and Sabella already have thought about it. And it's not that Messi can't hit strong penalty kicks. In the el clasico when he knew the importance of the penalty, he did hit it hard and on target (the 2nd one). It's just that his usual tendency is to fool the keeper rather than picking a corner of the nets. That's okay.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 4:25 PM
1
im not saying argentina would lose for that. im saying we need to be prepared. Maybe in crunching moments(not always) we should prepare Garay for taking penalty as the opposition keeper would not expect that and the chances are Gk would not study over his pk technique.

Just saying ..


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 3:55 PM
1
So messi is a poor penalty taker and Argentina is going to loose the WC for that reason...Is this the whole argument about?

Big problem!Easy solution!!

Drop Messi,bring back Requelme-our best PK taker.Happy?

Note: Requleme missed the most important penalty of his career against Arsenal,in the semi 2nd leg of UCL.The cost was villareal got eliminated.

@Johhny,it won't help England either.They are going to
loose the next penalty shootout,that is something we can agree upon :)


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 12:43 PM
1
Messi penalty stats for Argentina;

10 penalties taken
9 scored
1 missed


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 12:01 PM
0
For me anybody can miss a penalty..Messi scored two penalties against Real Madrid when his team needed it the most in front of a sell out Bernabeu crowd..Against Betis Barcelona were already in command of the game when Messi was about to take his second PK..Nothing was on the line when Messi took the second pk because Barcelona were already in front.


baker
(India)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 11:33 AM
0
PK is important , but these statics not going to help to win the PK either.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 11:00 AM
0
One Miss in every 5 penalties is a very poor ratio for a player like Messi. Not matter how you want to defend it.

in a tournament like world cup ,euro,copa PK always plays vital role for every champions ( 98 france , 2002 brazil, 2006 italy, 2008 euro spain, 2007 copa brasil, 2011 copa uruguay) it shows us every champion at some point needs to rely on PK. Pk win it all or pk get out of the tournament. Period.

So if you don't know baker why i started this discussion there is something to think about for you.

and Kenneth take your stupid sarcasm elsewhere if you can't come up with a logical argument.


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 6:40 AM
0
Won't help Argentina any, but Rickie Lambert of Southampton...34 in a row and counting.


baker
(India)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 6:24 AM
0
i dont know why we are having the discussion on our players PK capability , for me PK is always a hit or miss any player can score and at the same time they can fail too..

but we should be happy that our core players , messi,aguero,pipita,maxi are the regular Pk takers for their clubs , and they are very good in that too. many teams dont have this luxuary.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/7/2014 at 4:06 AM
1
Thanks to Kidult for posting Messi's PK stats.

Messi might have scored 43 PK in 53 attempt which is good for 81.1%. Not a high number, that means roughly in every 5 PK, Messi will miss one.

However! Remember this:
Messi WAS a so so PK taker earlier in his career. His PK was very similar to Maradona's which relied heavily on less powerful shot with the hope of the goalie will misjudge the PK.

But now Messi has improved greatly. His PK starts to have more power and more varieties. He does not just rely on making the goalie misjudge it. He starts to rely on power more (more like CR7 PK).

I am sure if there is any stats that show Messi's PK in the last 20 PK, his success rate would be not 81% but more than 90-95%. I think against Betis was his first miss (or at most second miss) in his last 20 PK or something, which means he's quite good in PK now.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 8:39 PM
1
JUNE 4TH, and with all honesty, there must be something better to talk about than how many Pks la Pulga missed and enough with the negativity crap.

The MIGHTY Brazil missed ALL their PK kicks in the last Copa America, NOT A SINGLE PK scored, N O N E P E R I O D!


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 8:33 PM
0
When is the next argentina game?


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 8:09 PM
3
I have an Idea, lets all talk about how the 4 time world player of the year, and record breaking record breaker can improve let's just do that for the next couple of weeks. Roy maybe make a page for that?


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 8:05 PM
0
Let us stop this messi is bad penalty taker alot of players miss penalties he scores under the highest pressure so let us take it easy on this topic right footed players are always better at penalties that is a common thing but messi is good as any one


msi2
(France)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 7:06 PM
0
10???? Damn I thought that was less than that... But i agree with that issue, i have always thought he was a poor penalty-taker, even though he seems to have improved in that aspect lately.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 6:07 PM
0
with club and country i bet messi total missed around 15 penalties. Oh man :(


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 6:05 PM
0
missed 10 penalty. Way too much. its black spot in messi statistics. i can understand missing 4 or 5 penalties for the greatest player ever. but missing 10 is way too much. it testifies about messi's average penalty taking capability.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 2:57 PM
0
Fede headed in a FK, bt cald off side....


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 2:32 PM
0
a keeper has a 33% chance of saving a pen apparently.
pens get saved, shite happens (depending on if its your keeper or not) but those takers who completely miss the goal-that is not acceptable.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 2:03 PM
1
Yeah Alexis has that thing of CR7 or Tevez in him in that he will look good when the team makes him the best player on the team. That's exactly his situation in Chile national team, but not Barca.

Man just watch Barca the whole season, Alexis-Messi combo have been shitty. No mutual understanding whatsoever. I am sure if Dani Alves is put as forward right (Alexis position), Messi's goals now would have been 32-35. Dani Alves, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, and Xavi have great mutual understanding with Messi.

Alexis better move to a team that relies on him solely in attack (just like Tevez situation at Juve). A team like Arsenal, Hotspur, or Milan suits him as those teams have no great attackers upfront.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 2:02 PM
1
Messi's penalty stats for Barcelona:
- 53 taken
- 43 converted
- 10 missed


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 1:54 PM
0
el principe don't underestimate Alexis Sanchez he's always great for Chile, just look at what he did to England single handily and most recently against Spain..Chile will be a force in Brazil and people here better recognize them before its too late..I see Chile as a possible semifinalist, just my thought..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 1:51 PM
0
el principe Ribery and Bale are wingers, Di Maria is not playing winger position for Real Madrid, he's a attacking mid under Ancelloti..Di Maria offer more than Iniesta defensively..For me its Di Maria , Vidal and Iniesta..


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 1:43 PM
1
@Kidult

I am glad people start to appreciate "the headless chicken" of Mundo Albiceleste here, Angel Di Maria now. However, to think that he's the best AM in the world, no. Not yet. Top 5 maybe, but not the world best. I am not biased, so I have to admit that Iniesta, Ribery, Bale, Robben are ahead of him. That's for sure.

Reus, David Silva, Gotze are maybe in par with Di Maria at the moment.

If we win the World Cup and Di Maria has a good tournament, then he can be the best AM.

Btw, Alexis Sanchez needs to go away! He doesn't know how to pass. I am glad he is not an Argentine because he's the real headless chicken. He's close as worst as Tevez when it comes to working with Messi.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 1:07 PM
0
biglia got sent off


Shinobushinobu
(Singapore)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 12:49 PM
2
Well, if what worries you most is Messi's skill on PK, I can only feel happy.

PK depends on luck and Messi is no less than CR or Balotelli. In Copa America he's the first PK taker and he did well in front of people that might hang him shuld he miss it. He is extremely calm and mentally strong in a tight situation imo.


baker
(India)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 12:11 PM
0
pipita is now a regular PK taker and looks sharp too


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 11:51 AM
0
exactly julker9.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 11:47 AM
0
Easy penalty....!!! Wat s dat....???


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 11:45 AM
0
I didn't look up the video but I assume you're talking about the PK Messi missed against the backup goalkeeper who had just gotten in secs before.

Messi was just being cute on that PK.

I feel if Messi wanted to Blast a PK he would but he likes to pick his spots.



Julker9
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 11:31 AM
0
Aguero is the best penalty taker we have right now! Messi & the rest are behind him. He dodged the goalKeepers many time in his career. I am not saying that Messi is a bad penalty taker but he obviously not the trusted one! Because that man is Aguero!!

Watch this video where Messi missed a easy penalty against Germany !

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mApZFVJcXU


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 10:24 AM
0
caballero can do wonders evey time but sabella is having none of it


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 7:44 AM
1
Messi did well against real . but i said messi does it ''most of the time''.

Boy caballero is yet once again incredible tonight against Granada. Makes me even more sad.

With our current NT team. I believe we can even held our end with 10 men if someone sees a red. 5-3-1

now we need to prepare for penalty shoot out as well. We suck at that always.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 7:11 AM
0
Looks like our dfndrs comng in good touch, scoring goals too.... Di maria came for the last minutes n made a priceless assist.... Messi with 50% commitment still looks btr dan any other.... 3 frwds r there in decent run.... Super kun is back in track.... Question s watz goin on with 2nd choice mids.... Sosa, augusto, ricky....??? Hope maxi is in good touch.... Dnt knw y the fuck spurs spent 30£ m without knwng what s de kind f player he is...? Dnt knw sabella stick with his early calls or go for som men in form.... Like scholari cald fernandinho... Ltz hop for de best...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 6:54 AM
0
What deb said is exactly wat hpnd ystrdy with messi.... He s placing thru the middle acrdng to Gks reaction for last som games.... Gk read it well n didnt commit earlier, which made some chaos in messi mind..... It can happen, anytime, anyone it b, about 20-30% is luck factor in penalties in my opinion.... Bt i think he is the most composed PK taker we hav today.... In el clasico it was almost like a knock out game for barca n he did exceptionally well.... So itz nt a big matter f concern....


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 6:34 AM
0
@ Shafat look at Messi's PK's against Real in the 4-3 win then tell me about how Messi needs to use power.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 5:34 AM
0
What do you mean Balotelli missing penalty is expected? how ignorant can you be? he is the best PK taker in the last 5years at least. only missed 1or2 penalty.

Only Deb understood here what i meant. Keepers like Neuer would almost always guess the right side in a penalty. Messi needs to bury it with power so that they cant reach it even if they dive in the right side.


mmh007
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 5:09 AM
0
Where does Rojo play for Sporting!!! He scored again


Deb
(India)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 4:52 AM
0
I agree with @shafat.redondo. Although I believe Messi is an absolutely fantastic penalty taker, but it's true that in most of his penalties he will be keeping an eye on the keeper's movement and then gently place the ball at the back of the net. Since his reaction is extremely fast and brilliant, this tactic almost always works for him. He doesn't have to hit the ball hard.

After Messi scored from the first penalty yesterday, I was thinking what if someday he fails to guess the movement of the keeper and what if the keeper doesn't move much at all. We all know how reactive he is, but we don't yet know how proactive he is. And then exactly that happened in the second penalty. The keeper didn't show much movement before the kick was taken, and Messi ended up taking a bad penalty.

I think as much as he relies on his instinct and reaction to fool the keepers, it would be safer for Messi if he just keeps hitting the ball out of the keeper's reach even if they assume the direction correctly. Examples - the 2nd freekick against Madrid in the last el clasico. A perfect penalty.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 2:23 AM
0
If sabella wants height and experience, instead of taking Di Santo he should take Herman Denis! Awesome headers. Great higuain sub!


riquelme.10
(Canada)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 2:13 AM
1
I dont like icardi, hes way too immature and already following the path of players such as aderiano. He definitely has the talent and potential but hes not focused on his game as much as he should. He needs a big slap on the face to wake the F*** up before its too late...

@ shafat, tell me what other crucial PKS messi has missed other then Chelsea?

as for
"Cristiano,Lampard they both are world class pk takers"

you forgot CR misses in the champions league final vs chelsea?? vs bayern in CL semis 2 years ago??? vs barca CL semis in 2008??? thats only crucial games, he has many others

enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlg1JcpPdeM

lampard, and CR are both great PK takers but messi is no less if not better.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 1:27 AM
0
Brazil was bounced from the 2010 World Cup in South Africa in the quarterfinals and they're sitting at just No. 10 in the latest world rankings.

But playing on home turf in 2014, they are nonetheless favorites on 2014 World Cup odds futures lists at most international sportsbooks.

The updated odds to win the 2014 World Cup have Brazil sitting as the 3/1 favorites, followed by Argentina at 9/2, Germany at 11/2, and defending-champion Spain at 7/1.

If people here think Argentina can avoid the favoritism tag then they are sadly mistaken..no matter how we try to play it down here its another story in the real world..a team of the caliber of Argentina with the current players at their disposal will not go unnoticed..


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 12:50 AM
1
@Shafat Lampard had a similar situation to Messi today, missed the penalty but still scored, in that case i don't think he should be called for England or Chelsea, seems like a major liability.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/6/2014 at 12:03 AM
0
id take icardi ahead of pal.


baker
(India)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 11:41 PM
0
icardi with 2 super cool finish , sabella if you are looking for 6th forward icardi is the man not disanto


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 11:38 PM
0
we wont face top team until the semifinal that is my prediction we will face belguim in qf and spain in the semis brazil in the final


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 11:08 PM
0
Sudhirfadi Where is Chile? Chile will best Spain and Netherlands this summer..Sorry but Ecuador will at least make the round of 16..If Ecuador made the round of 16 back in 2006 when the world cup was held in Germany, I see no reason they wont make the round of 16 on South American soil..France is unpredictable at this point, and Switzerland is not a world beater, I see Ecuador advancing..

Group A Brazil and Mexico

Group B Chile and Spain

Group C Colombia and Japan

Group D Italy and Uruguay

Group E Ecuador and France

Group F Argentina and Nigeria

Group G Germany and Ghana

Group H Russia and South Korea



Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 10:56 PM
0
MUNDIAL 2014
GROUP A;BRASIL,CROATIA,MEXICO,CAMEROON
GROUP B;SPAIN NETHERLAND,CHILE,AUSTRALIA
GROUP C;COLOMBIA,GREECE,IVORY COAST,JAPAN
GROUP D;URUGUYA,COSTA RICA,ENGLAND,ITALY
GROUP E;SWITZERLAND,EQUADOR,FRANCE,HONDURUS
GROUP F;ARGENTINA,BOSNIA-HERZ,IRAN,NIGERIA
GROUP G;GERMANY,PORTUGUAL,GHANA,USA
GROUP H;BELGIUM,ALGERIA,RUSSIA,SOUTH KOREA
ROUND OF 16
A1 VS B2 [ BRASIL VS NEDERLAND]
B1 VS A2 [ SPAIN VS CROATIA]
C1 VS D2 [ COLOMBIA VS ENGLAND]
D1 VS C2 [ ITALY VS IVORY COAST]
E1 VS F2 [ FRANCE VS NIGERIA]
F1 VS E2 [ ARGENTINA VS SWITZERLAND]
G1 VS H2 [ GERMANY VS RUSSIA]
H1 VS G2 [ BELGIUM VS PORTUGUAL]
QUARTERFINAL
E1-F2 VS G1-H2 [ FRANCE VS GERMANY]
A1-B2 VS C1-D2 [ BRAZIL VS ENGLAND]
F1-E2 VS H1-G2 [ ARGENTINA VS PORTUGUAL]
B1-A2 VS D1-C2 [ SPAIN VS ITALY]
SEMIFINAL
A1/ B2-C1/ D2 VS E1/ F2-G1/ H2 [ BRASIL VS GERMANY]- SEMIFINAL -1
B1/ A2-D1/ C2/ VS F E2-H1 /G2 [ ARGENTINA VS SPAIN]- SEMIFINAL 2
FINALE
WINNER OF SEMIFINAL 1 VS SEMIFINAL 2
#HOPE ARGENTINA CONQUER THE ESTADIO DO MARACANA, RIO DE JANEIRO ON 13 JULY 2014.
THIS IS MY PREDICTION AND HOPE BRASIL, SPAIN,FRANCE AND GERMANY TOP THE GROUP AND PORTUGUAL ELIMINATES EARLY THEN THIS WILL BE EASIEST WAY FOR ARGENTINA TO BE IN FINALE.



guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 10:53 PM
0
di maria is on fire let us hope he takes that to the world cup,i would like to ask the members about messi total career goals wikipedia is saying 399 club and country I am not sure so any body with knowledge let us know it


guled
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 10:50 PM
0
shafat Redondo is correct that right footed players are better when it comes to penalty taking, still messi is great penalty scorer he does it at the highest pressure remember the last classico


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 9:54 PM
1
messi is always under the spot light that is why his miss becomes headlines!! nobody gives a damn if lampard baloteli misses a pentaly cause its expected from them... but if messi misses a spot kick then that is what you call unexpected!!!


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 9:44 PM
0
Anyone here agree with me that Di Maria is currently the best attacking midfielder in the world at the moment?

Shafat.Redondo - Lampard misses a lot of penalties..Just YouTube Lampard penalty miss..Lampard have missed way more penalties than Messi over the years..Just make sure your facts are right before you make these claims about Messi..

I would rather have Joe Barton or Emile Heskey taking a penalty kick than that hot head of a player name Balotelli..




wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 9:20 PM
1
Messi missed a vital penalty against chelsea. He missed a lot of penalties actually . See the stats. He always tries to mislead the keeper which annoys me and most of the time messi doesn't put enough power in a penalty kick like lampard, balotelli or cristiano so that even if the keeper saves it , it goes in the net by sheer force.

i hope you understand what i meant. Left footed players are traditionally bad penalty taker. (Arjen Robben) Messi is an average pk taker.

Balotelli only missed 1 penalty out of 50. can you imagine that?

Cristiano,Lampard they both are world class pk takers.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 9:06 PM
1
Kid agree 100%


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 7:06 PM
2
Shafat.Redondo - Its normal for any player to miss a penalty..Xavi and Iniesta all missed penalties this season if I am not mistaken..Balotelli of all person also missed a penalty in a game vs Napoli this season...Barcelona played horrible tonight, every single one of them, you can tell this current ban on the club was affecting the players on the pitch, no matter how good these players are, they are still humans, just like you and me...Nobody is perfect, before the penalty miss, Messi was on a run of 19 or 20 straight penalty on which he scored for Barcelona..So now all of a sudden Messi needs to practice penalties? Anyone can miss a penalty kick, Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka both missed penalty kicks vs Bayern Munich..Professional players need to practice on every aspect of their game not only penalty kicks.

Inter Milan is my favorite team and they always will be but I am tired of these above average performances, the team cant even win games at home convincingly..I can't remember the last time Inter Milan had a great performance has a team.

Ronaldo base is game around goals too much, not saying its a bad thing because its goal that win games. Apart from goal scoring Ronaldo offer nothing in a football game..There will be time when Ronaldo will score only 19 - 25 goals a season in the coming years, I wonder how he will feel when players like Suarez is Real Madrid main goal scorer and not him..This guy haven't been successful at Real Madrid when you look at it, he had the most expensive team in history around him (and that include our beloved Higuain and Di Maria) yet he only won 1 La Liga title and 0 UCL title since 2009..Ronaldo can score goals all he want but he will never be as great as Raul to the Real Madrid fans..Raul and Zidane are Real Madrid too greatest players in modern times.

Why are people here so afraid to talk up Argentina chances of winning the world cup? Its not like it will make a difference if we win or lose the world cup.. I am all for being optimistic and confident, I am a fan not a player..As long as the coach and players remain humble I am ok with that, but that wont stop me from talking up Argentina chances at the next installment of the world cup..We have a great squad of players, why would I be afraid to say that the team is better than certain teams going into the world cup..

This is my question, what's wrong with Bartra? The kid need to defend and stop trying to be like Pique, he's always running forward every single minute..The goal Barcelona conceded was due to Bartra yet again, he was caught out of position again, he was all the way in the Betis half trying to win a ball by the touch line which was not his fight..As soon as the Betis player got the ball up field Bartra was caught in the opponent half tracking back with his face towards the Barcelona goal so that's why the through pass from the Betis player got through the Barcelona defense..if Bartra was in his position from the beginning he would have dealt with that pass better...If Bartra and Pinto play against Real Madrid at the sametime for the Copa Del Rey title then Barcelona will lose..If Pique is not back Tata should start Puyol although he's not the same player but still would be a better option than Bartra vs Real Madrid for the CDR title and Atlety Madrid this coming Wednesday..


riquelme.10
(Canada)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 7:05 PM
0
@ shafat,

You based this on what? How is messi bad at penalties???? sorry buddy but that's a funny comment he's scoring week in week out vs big or small rivals messi missed penalties could be counted on a single hand!!! His accuracy is the best there is add to that his confidence, therefore messi is amazing penalty shooter and is probably #1 in the world right now


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 5:35 PM
0
my worst fear, messi would miss penalty in the wc for argentina. He really needs to work on it. Messi is a really poor penalty taker comparing to his high standard. Every time he takes penalty i close my eyes. i hope he won't take any penalty in the wc and leave it on higuain,aguero,di maria


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 5:02 PM
0
Hw did ricky n palacio play today...?


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 4:49 PM
0
sure he scores goals but hes had over 200 shots on goal this season, almost double what messi has had, its all about cr7 and cr7 alone but karma struck with that pen when playing for port in the euros and the world knows why cr7 wanted to take no 5.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 4:45 PM
0
their is no doubt about cr7s skills but he lacks in the brain dept and the world knows if a game was in the last min and the chance of personal glory or a simple pass to a team mate to score cr will go for glory every time where as messi is admired as he almost always does what's best for the team.
the real.m crown have been getting on cr7 back for doing just that in the last few games going for glory where as team mates are in simple positions to score but he does not pass to them but whens it the other way around he goes into a tirade.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 4:37 PM
0
True.... A very good team prfmnc without ego in the absnc of christiano....


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 4:10 PM
0
@The Thinker, I didn't had anything with your post, I just saw it (underestimating an opponent) earlier in another post.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 3:58 PM
0
i am not in any way underestimating any opponents.. in fact, i was ranting here before that we should never write off teams like spain and germany even if they don't have many advantages in this south american WC.. I am just merely expressing my gut feeling..

the thing which i like Sabella the most is that he never overestimates his own team.. Even against lowly Bosnia,, he said the match would "incredibly tough".. these comments show how much respect he shows to the opposition.. that is what really matters right now and if sabella keeps this attitude,, he will not leave the WC empty-handed.. God always favors the humble one..


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 3:58 PM
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real are a better team without Ronaldo as they play as a team


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 3:47 PM
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Looking at Real Madrids display you shouldn't underestimate or write off any team, the world cup would be no different, underestimating opponents could be costly.


The Thinker
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 2:06 PM
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what a tremendous article.. i hope it removes the confusion of all the fans out there who still wants Tevez on the team.. Tevez is a great player,, one of the best in this generation but messi and Tevez can never stay in the same dressing room,, just like Two tigers cannot hunt together in a jungle...

Indeed,, i can feel that we have won the World cup.. Sabella has built a team that has tremendous harmony and nobody is playing for individual glory.. yes we don't have caballero but romero is crucial to the harmony in this team even though he is an inferior GK compared to willy.. the thing is,, you cannot win with all the talents at your disposal.. the problem that argentina faced so many times after Maradona retired is that the dressing room was often very divided.. the 98,02,06 squads had such wealth of talents yet underperformed spectacularly because there were some divisions in the team.. 1982 squad was the most divisive in Argentine history,, Mario Kempes,Ardilles,Paserrella had such Ego in them,, a 21-year old Maradona had to bear brunt of argentina's inglorious exit.. It was never Maradona's fault but the politicians of AFA decided to make him the scapegoat.. how life turned for Maradona,,from being the rising star in the world football he was now blamed for failures he never committed.. his time at barca wasn't much helpful either and slowly,, the world began to think maradona would remain an unfulfilled talent.. Even that bastard Pele said that Maradona can't do nothing on a pitch but dive.. and then,, maradona made the decision of his life to move to Naples.. at the same time,, Bilardo became the coach of argentina.. like sabella today,, it was Bilardo back then who realized the huge potential of Maradona and decided to build the team around him,, make the dressing room completely harmonious and remove the Egoistic characters.. and then the came the Legendary 1986 World Cup,, the politicians of AFA were saying that Argentina wouldn't even get past the group stage of the WC because Maradona was on the team.. as Maradona wrote in his book,, "We were pretty much on our own going into the WC".. the fans were doubtful as to whether they can even reach the quarters.. and then,, from the first match to final,, Diego Armando Maradona didn't just fulfill any lofty expectations,, he FINISHED it once and for all.. from the bottom of the sewer to the Greatest Player in history,, Maradona's story of redemption will be told since the End of time.. those same politicians came begging to maradona's feet and that Fool Pele got an Erection in his impotent Dick.. another story of redemption was that of Brazilian Ronaldo in 2002,, from being injured for over a year,, he came back in an emphatic manner to seal the deal for Brazil..

and now 2014,, it is MESSI's time for redemption.. there are still doubters and haters out there who still says messi can't perform for NT.. Pele is still taking Viagra for his dick and believes Neymar is greater than Messi.. Just like in 86,, Messi has got a squad full of harmony,, the team is built around him and like Maradona back then Messi is the CAPTAIN now.. He is the leader of the ship, he has all the tools to make this WC as his own which will silence all the naysayers forever..and my gut feeling says,, Messi will PROVE it..



Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 1:22 PM
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I have a feeling that Di santo could be a far better player when he becomes more mature, at only 24 he has age on his favour, I really want more represents of Argentina at Bundesliga, only 4 of them now!


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 1:15 PM
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When is the liverpool vs city hame?


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 11:46 AM
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Atlety formation vs Barcelona on Wednesday will be 8 - 1 - 1...


Diego-maniac
(Lebanon)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 11:37 AM
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Di santos scored


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 11:30 AM
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Atlety at home and playing park the bus football against Villarreal..Not a good strategy Semeone..


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 10:07 AM
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On a diverse note.
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Why on earth does Iker Casillas want to slap Sergio Busquets just bcoz he had stamped Pepe??
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Well what does Casillas have to say about Pepe behaving like an animal and trying to destroy Messi and other Barcelona players??? not just Barcelona but other teams aswell???
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Pepe is an animal (he behaves as one) and i have not seen such a terrible player . . . he tries to kill players even. Not just the careers but their entire life.
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Ddidnt Casillas see Pepe trying to hurt Messi on purpose or Ramos trying to hurt Messi???
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Fool, u lost my respect man . . . rather i cannot see Spain winning this world cup with disharmony created like this.
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Del Bosque should not start Casillas ever again, anyway at the moment he doesnt deserve it either. Let him warm the bench.
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Casillas doesn play so why the captainship??? Give it to deserving Puyol or Xavi.
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Pepe, u wait and see . . . someday somewhere sometime . . . u will get a taste of your own medicine.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 9:49 AM
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''Aguero: Me and Suarez are the two Messis of the Premier League''

Manchester City striker Sergio Aguero claims he and Luis Suarez are the “two Messis” of the Premier League.

The Argentine is a big fan of Barcelona forward Lionel as well as Suarez, whose Liverpool side is fighting it out with City in one of the most intriguing title battles in the history of England's top flight.

Aguero and Suarez have been dubbed the ‘(Cristiano) Ronaldo and Messi’ of the division but the former Atletico Madrid star prefers a comparison with his compatriot.

He told FourFourTwo: “I’d say instead of Messi and Ronaldo… (we are the) two Messis!

“We’re both Messi. I mean, I have to be him because I’m Argentine, but Luis is also South American and loves a dribble so why can’t we both be him?”

Aguero is hoping Messi can inspire Argentina to World Cup glory in neighboring Brazil this summer.

“He’s spectacular and just makes football so much easier. To play alongside the best player in the world is a privilege,” he added. “He solves problems on the pitch like few others can even think about, so he can be a big part of winning the World Cup.”


baker
(India)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 9:18 AM
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@rey : are you being serious.....?


rey
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 8:33 AM
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simple solution: Put him in the team BUT Keep Tevez physically away from the dressing room (if that's where the problems are) train separately from the rest of the players. Bring him on the games when needed scenarios like one of our players are injured or we need to throw anything in for a goal!!


Deb
(India)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 6:20 AM
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@el principe: I just hope Messi takes it easy. And if in the process he gets a few goals, what's better!! :)

Regarding Aguero, he needs to make sure his hamstrings are all right before he makes a comeback. If it's absolutely necessary to play the Liverpool match, let him have a half. But not before that please.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 6:16 AM
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Messi's Barca will face the league weakest Betis tonight. CR7 won't be playing tonight. 5 goals difference between the two. How many goals Messi will score tonight? Hope he'll get another hattrick.

City needs to reactivate Aguero-Negredo upfront. That's their main weapon to win the EPL.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 5:53 AM
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Thanks Roy- You brought it all up there!

I gotta admit that LaBombonera is the home unleashed mad dogs. Despite the magic the players grow with, there is always a negative part in their personalities. So many names from Palermo to Araujo. Teves isn't an exceptional one. And that's why Araujo failed in FCB B team, cause he thought he's the man of the show in a pool of teamwork talent!

One similar reason made us miss Riquelme in 2010 the egoism of Boca Heros Diego and Roman.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 4:49 AM
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I can see no way that Liverpool gna beat City, title is citys to loose.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 1:12 AM
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Johnny: you are correct Liverpool are playing really well as my Liverpool friends are not shy on reminding me but I do have to remind some of them how I said to give Rodgers time when a lot of them wanted to sack rodgers a year ago.

sorry abs and co but im backing city for this fight as if Liverpool win it my email, phone, cell and sms will be inundated where as if city win their is only 1 ill be hearing from, I guess one could say the less grief for me :)


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 1:01 AM
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Agreed pablo.d. Liverpool is playing free and easy. It will be interesting to see if Liverpool starts feeling the pressure a little. So far there's been little sign of it. I like what Rodgers has done with Liverpool and if I weren't a City fan I'd be rooting the Pudlians on.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 12:55 AM
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for me the pressure is on city as points in the bank liverpools 71 are worth more then points not actually won yet (or drawn), ie city's 2 games in hand.

if city lose tonight then its advantage Liverpool as even if city win both their games in hand Liverpool is still ahead.
simple put city cannot afford to lose but Liverpool can as city currently have 0 points from the 2 games in hand and as we know they could win both, draw both, lose both etc etc.
Liverpool have nothing to lose as no one expected them to be where they are with the season almost over but city with all their star players and $$ spent are expected to be 1st.


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 12:08 AM
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Ha Ha Kenneth ! I hear you, but Stoke has actually been scoring some goals. And, Mark Hughes is the only current EPL manager to have whipped Mourinho twice. Not saying it'll happen, but its been an unpredictable season.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 12:07 AM
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@Johnny I agree man, its hard to predict who will win what games at this stage of the season..Chelsea lost away to Aston Villa and Crystal Palace, nobody gave those teams a chance against Chelsea..At this stage of the season every team is fighting for something, whether if its avoiding relegation, fighting for a UCL spot, fighting for Europa spot, and teams at least trying to finish in the top ten so they will get more money at the end of the season..Look at the last game City played at home when they won the league, it was a nail biter against a team (QPR I think) that was not a strong team on paper yet they made City fight for the title all the way into extra time..Poor Lescott almost cost City the league.


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 4/5/2014 at 12:00 AM
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@Johnny with headlines like those, you make me actually wanna watch Stoke city play!


Johnny
(Thailand)
Posted on 4/4/2014 at 11:39 PM
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They're all big games now in the EPL. Any team can slip on a banana peel...or two. Lots of intrigue, from who's going to win the title, to who's going to qualify for the CL (and who's not), to who's going to be relegated.

Everton and Arsenal should be an entertaining match. Can Big Sam work some weird magic against Liverpool ? Is Stoke primed to enrage Mourinho ? Can City deal with an in form Southampton squad ? And, without Rooney will United take another dump ?


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/4/2014 at 11:34 PM
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@Pablo.d - This is how the current table is set up..

Liverpool - 71 points 32 games played

Chelsea - 69 points 32 games played

Man City - 67 points 30 games played


So lets say Liverpool wins tomorrow they will end up on 74 points while City remains on 67 points with 2 games in hand which if they win both games in hand that's six points bringing their point tally to 73 points behind Liverpool 74 points (games in hands are against Sunderland and WBA at home)..But lest say City wins tomorrow they will end up on 70 points with two games in hand and Liverpool on 71 points, so lets say City will eventually win those two games in hand which is likely, then that's 76 points we are talking about..If the game tomorrow is a tie then Liverpool will be on 72 points and City 68 points with two games in hand..Man City at the moment is in the best position to win the league, all pressure is on Liverpool, and when you look at Liverpool defense at the moment I say City will win tomorrow..


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 4/4/2014 at 10:37 PM
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KidultHood: the liv vs city game is massive and if city lose then the title is out of their hands as they have to hope others win and lose where as a win now means its still 100% in city's hands.
city have to win this game to keep control of their destiny and the same can be said for Liverpool as if they win they control the race.


Trini Pupi
(Trinidad And Tobago)
Posted on 4/4/2014 at 9:52 PM
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Tevez excellent player....i was a fan for years.
After Copa America 2008....is when i started to see little things i didn't like..then after 2010 thats it.
Argentina has been blessed with great attacking players that Tevez must know at the back of his mind if he can't perform or doesn't want to ...their are many others waiting. We have players like Tevez,Pastore among others who can;t make the team and understandably so. For time being at least Tevez really has no place i think most fans know this. I am sad about this but i understand why.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 4/4/2014 at 9:48 PM
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@Pradi I wouldnt call the Liverpool vs Man City the title deciding game..There are still several games to go and anything can happen..Liverpool have to play Chelsea and Man City have a game away to Everton.


Tommyboy
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 4/4/2014 at 8:29 PM
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Looking good.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 4/4/2014 at 8:03 PM
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