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Posted by Roy Nemer (Roy Nemer) Saturday, March 08, 2014 Go To Comments

Federico FAZIO: "It's a little disrespectful"

Federico FAZIO has spoken about wanting to be on the Argentina National Team.

Federico FAZIO has let out his anger speaking of his frustration. Here's what he had to say:

"It's very difficult to go to World Cup and the truth is that it's frustrating because I know I'm doing well enough to be in the NT. It's a little disrespectful. It's been a few years now I've been playing at the highest level with Sevilla. It's SABELLA who decides if he takes me or not."




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haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 3/11/2014 at 2:22 AM
1
I second eppipita's opinion on Sabella's way of coaching, where he introduced a method and built up the strategy of his WC squad. Yet, I have to disagree on few tactical mistakes, especially, during the second part of the matches, where he usually gets outcoached when its all locked up. "The only exception was the match in Bogota, where introducing Aguero won us the 3 points".

Some times he tends to hold on his plan for so long even if it didn't work against a hard opponent and loses the second half by accepting the display of the opponents which cause's heavy weight pressure on our defensive line. Note: that this type of game might exhaust the defense and make them vulnerable to injuries.
This is the main issue of presenting a weak display in the midfield, which is allowing the opponents to attack you and dominate position. Even if you tend to counter attack, you shouldn't hold on it through out the entire match, I mean changing the plan during the match by few tactical changes by pulling one of the wingers for example and introducing a holing mid. Simply changing the form from 4,3,3 to 4,4,2 would enable you to possess the pitch, when the right players are in, to avoid accepting the heavy pressure on the defense.

So either starting with a 4,3,3 and changing it to a 4, 2, 2, e.g. pulling out Aguero and bringing in Banega" or the other way around with the possibility to form a 3, 5, 2 in between, e.g. pulling out Rojo and introducing Biglia!

Tactical changes are vital in knockout stages and there you see how the coaches work!


mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 11:10 PM
4
My 2 cents:

Regarding Fazio's comments, well I feel for the guy, he's been in excellent form throughout this season and he seems to tick all the boxes that Sabella has laid out (height, physical presence, tough tackling) yet the less experienced LL was selected ahead of him.
With that being said there are others ways for a player to express his concerns without coming off as hostile or disrespectful and calling Sabella disrespectful is foolish and is certainly not going to suddenly get you a spot on the first team.

For those who are comparing Sabella's team to Maradona's team all I can say is DON'T!
Maradona's selection was manic and foolish (to say the very least) while the Fab 4 system is yet to lose a single match.
The fantastic 4 system was a product of months of experiments on Sabella's part since a 4-2-4 system is very risky on paper.
Sabella took his time before opting to go with this system and he discussed his ideas with messi and co; before going ahead; that's what a proper coach is supposed to do!
Now Maradona on the other hand switched from a tried and true 4-4-2 system (a midfield of masch, veron, dimaria and Jonas with only messi and pipita upfront and tevez on the bench) that secured qualification by beating Uruguay in their own home and completely shutting down a Balak led Germany in the friendly to a manic (I word I will always associate with Maradona the coach!) system of 4-1-5 with only poor Masch having to hold the midfield.
Maradona did all this to accommodate "the player of the people" Tevez without even giving a second thought to the fact that he was facing a strong youthful German team that relied on counter attacks.
No my friends while Sabella has a method to his coaching Maradona just did meth!

Leandro and I have been saying for quite some time that the fab 4 method should not be used against top teams with strong midfields like Germany, spain, Italy and Brazil and I'm sticking to that.
The problem is who should be our 3rd midfielder (I only regard gago-masch as true midfieders while Di-maria and messi are only make shift midfielders)?
A 3 man defensive midfield (gago-masch-biglia) may not necessarly be the answer since if you all remember Batista used that idea to no end.
Putting banega as the enganche in a 4-4-2 system could work on paper but banega is very inconsistent and such a huge task shouldn't be entrusted to him.
Ricky Alvarez would actually be an ideal no.10 since the kid is very creative and defensively disciplined (reminds me of Oscar) but I don't see it happening since Sabella (and Mazzarri) seem to be determined to play him out of position, which is a crying shame.
Now some of you have mentioned this formation:


kun/pipita

messi (free role/no.10)

Dimaria Gago Masch Maxi

I think this would do quite nicely against the teams I mentioned above and if the albicelestes are down a goal the fab-4 can be introduced to add more attacking muscle.
The good news is that Sabella knows fully well that the fantastic 4 system doesn't work on all teams hence why he used a 4-4-2 against Brazil and Germany so I personally trust Sabella to make the right decision regarding his finalized formation but the question of who to use to anchor the midfield needs to be answered before the world cup starts.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 7:34 PM
0
Besides simeone and potchetino who would you guys like as coach?


Trini Pupi
(Trinidad And Tobago)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 5:05 PM
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@hamman so very true about Italy Kidnapping Argentines..i mentioned that earlier. Its pretty annoying that they are basically hunting down south americans..especially Argentines....Osvaldo, Ledesma, i think that Maxi Lopez and Zarate are always being chased..and i think Maxi said yet but just never got the call.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 4:30 PM
0
Simeone would not have favourites


Alam
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 4:08 PM
1
sabella is a weak coach and thats the reason he is not taking better players than his favorite players.


argentine
(Ghana)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 2:43 PM
0
SABELLAH is really calling his favorite players instead of the better players.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 2:08 PM
0
Yes, Cambiasso in the team is a very vital choice, with his experience,, he would offer a lot. He is a brilliant midfielder, if didn't tackle well, would score you a winner.

Now, we are facing a weak midfield situation, while we have Maria, Masche, Banega, Gago, Biglia and Ricky on our sheet! Is in't it pretty weird?

On a different note, have you noticed. Italy stole Baletta, he played the last friendly against Spain and did pretty well. He is having a very good season with Parma.

Italy are building their future squads on kidnapping Argentines.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 1:42 PM
0
There is one main factor Sabella and the team should realize:
Over dependance on Messi might cause us a lot and works the other way around.

Leo is a lethal weapon that could hit or miss the target. If it didn't work, the team shouldn't stop shooting with all the weapons in its disposal.

Lucky Sabella, having the first round as more preparing matches to stabilize chemistry between his players. He could still experiment B plans against Bosnia or Iran and go for Nigeria with first class selection.

Yes, we shouldn't panic. The match of Romania wasn't in the right time, within a busy schedule for most of our players and if you noticed their leagues matches afterward, they looked somehow exhausted.

Saving energy is important, let 'em sacrifice their seasonal achievements for the sake of the WC.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 12:21 PM
1
Also another big difference is Maradona's Argentine was very weak at counter attack defense, Sabella's Argentina is strong at both counter attaack defense and offense. That is a big plus.

Even if we play fantastic four, I doubt strong counter attack teams who have the same philosophy as us of "when you get the ball, I want you to score in seconds (Joachim Low in WC 2010)." can trouble us by their counter attack.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 10:53 AM
0
In 2010 it was vry much lyk 4-1-5... Bt nw itz lyk 4-2-4 or 4-2-2-2.... Bt against european n african countries itz biglia>gago.... In paper or may be playing wise too Spain seems de most dangerous team for me.... In the whole 11 only dat DM postn look little below class.... Bt bosque may replace ramos instead of busquets there coz they hav btr central dfndr options.... The wealth of their league are definitely helping spain n germany....


fotobirajesh
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 10:17 AM
0
@Deb
In 2010, De Maria was more like a wing player. Nor was he tracking back. Now he plays more centrally.
I think in the Mexico/Germany games Maradona used both De Maria and Maxi, who were both like wingers and concentrated in the wings. Result was Masche was left all alone in the mid.
Now, we have a coach who seem to be tactical and DeMaria is not limited to the wing. Also Sabella sometimes uses 2 DM's and especially when we are leading he brings on more players with defensive work rate.
But I would still say, if we should be worried, we should be worried about our midfield. We will want them to play their best game of the lives, if we come across Spain/Germany/Brazil. We still lack an efficient CM, and we might manage without such a person against many teams, but not against the above ones.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 8:15 AM
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The first to remove is Rojo, real waste.... Apart frm him all othr 9 players r at dfrnt level.... I hope sabella approach bremen for garcia....


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 8:04 AM
0

---------Garay - Mascherano - Fede

Zaba ------------- Biglia ------------ Rojo

---------------------Messi

Di- maria--------------------------Lavezzi

--------------------ageuro


Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 7:53 AM
0
Exactly. Now we get somewhere. I am sure Sabella must be thinking about this as well. After all, Fab4 was not his idea to begin with.

Romero
Zabaleta-Garay-Fernandez-Basanta/Rojo
Mascherano-Gago/Biglia
Maxi/Banega/Lamela-Di Maria
Messi
Aguero/Higuain

This is a team that's built to play higher up the pitch. Allowing Messi more chances to penetrate with quick legs and have more shots at goal. Serves our defence better as well.

To defend, we can involve 6 men easily here (4 defenders and 2 DM's). To create play also, we can involve 4 people here (at least 1 full back, at least 1 DM, the central midfielder that is Maxi/Banega/Lamela and Di Maria). Lionel Messi no longer will have to come to the midfield and collect his balls. There will be more and more supply to him and that will keep him physically ready and make him more decisive up front.

What say guys???


krishna
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 7:02 AM
0
@Pradi, Good point made... We can't play with Fab4 against tougher opponents. We need a player like DiMaria on the right wing too... I don't know why sabella hasn't tried with Ricky/Maxi. He used Sosa at times....


Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 5:19 AM
0
I think I meant the same thing what Kidult and el principe, you guys are saying. I do not care a lot for the group matches, we gonna win them anyway. But in matches which matter the most, having one striker on the bench and playing an extra midfielder would not be a terrible idea actually. That extra midfielder can be Banega, or Maxi, or Lamela. Someone who has no big defensive duties considering Mascherano and Gago /Biglia are both in the squad, his basic work will be to keep the midfield active, link up DMs with Messi and Di Maria and at times, even himself come up and shoot. In short, playing not exactly the playmakers role, but someone who wouldn't keep the midfield stagnant. Making things happen all the time.



el principe
(United States)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 3:56 AM
1
I say Sabella's tactic of 4-3-3 and his original starting line up (Romero; Zaba, Fede, Garay, Rojo; Masche, Gago, Di Maria; Messi, Aguero, Higuain) is perfect. A good team must have their most lethal line up and here is our best line up. I don't think Sabella needs to modify that.

As Kidult said, let those line up (if healthy) play against all the group stage and second round and QF. For me, I'd still use that line up even against tougher teams.

What I want to point out is a more defensive minded line up IN CASE we're leading and need to play more defensive. The best one in that case would be an original 4-2-2-2. We've had some success with this line up as well even from Maradona's era to Sabella's era. Maradona's 4-4-2 managed to beat Germany in a friendly and France. Sabella originally used that 4-4-2 line up too (like against Brazil friendly in a 4-3 game), before he permanently switched to 4-3-3.

When we modify from 4-3-3 to 4-4-2, we'd add a defensive minded attacking midfielder (not a DM, not a midfield of Masche-Gago-Biglia as someone posted here) for a striker. Sosa was usually that player, but Sabella no longer relied on him. The perfect one is Maxi Rodriguez. So it will be like Romero; Zaba, Fede, Garay, Rojo; Masche, Gago; Maxi, Di Maria; Messi, Higuain/Aguero

But again, this is not supposed to be the starters. It is just a line up in case we need to play more defensive because we're leading.

Anyway, I am glad Sabella has his own ideas. So I prefer talking about what's really happening in Sabella's tactic. For example if today Sabella choose to play with 4-4-2, then I'd talk about 4-4-2. But since he still uses the fantastic four tactic, then I'll talk about the fantastic four.

The only thing we need to make the fantastic four tactic perfect is we need one of our 3 strikers to play Wayne Rooney's role for MU, more like defensive forward. That's all for me.


noori
(Pakistan)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 3:12 AM
0
Cambiaso must for the Team


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/10/2014 at 12:24 AM
0
Bt in current system there is no attacks happening thru right wing.... all moves is thru left by di maria n the movmnt f messi.... We cant expct frm gago that kind f bursting attacks thru right wing.... He s not at a natural wingr lyk di maria..... Thatz y it feel lyk a link missing in btwn and as an unbalanced squad.... Evn sabella told aftr the frndls wit ecuador n bosnia that " the full backs r exposd, hence we might hav to sacrifice one striker". Bt nthng changed.... May b will do at WC....


baker
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 11:52 PM
0
even some time back was against the idea of playing all 3 strikers together. why we need 3 attackers , its the same formation we done in 2010 but it turned out to be a disaster...?. i was thinking of traditional 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 with sacrificing aguero/kun.

but probelm here is , how do we place one extra midfielder..? if we put one extra midfielder we our self restricting messis freedom in the pitch.
sabella tactically arranged this system.4-3-3 doesnt look exactly looks like that.
he given restriction for our fullbacks , zabaleta role in city and with NT having huge difference.

our center backs with mascherano is playing a deeper role and waiting to counter any threats , and fullbacks are giving support to dimaria and messi [ they are hardly reaching the PB]

here messi is having a much freedom in ground his position is very flexible , that means opponent CB/DM have no clue how to mark him ,
and having aguero and pipita upfront leaving bigger space for messi.

here is the importance of gagos position in NT , he is linking up with dimaria-messi and masch , this role is very vital.if gago is poor entire team looks poor,
thats what happened in last match.

acing one extra midfielder will push messis position much higher , and his role will be very restricted and he can be easily double marked.
and let me ask you guys , who is that extra midfielder...? maxi is a winger , he cant be a good playemaker. who is there..?pastore..? , lamela..?ricky..?
honestly am not finding a good midfielder who can be fit in to the sytem.

and let me remind u guys , sabella is a defense minded coach , he will think in that way for sure.
in tough matches , sabella actually placed one extra CB and given much freedom for fullbacks , he is not much interested in taking out extra striker.

but is the system perfect...? we have to wait and find out. hope sabella have alternative stategies and most importantly our players should also ready to adapt changes


baker
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 11:47 PM
0
@Deb i got your point , for me major difference between 2010 and 2014 line up is

1: Dimaria , back in 2010 he was one close to being a new messi and CR7 , he hardly back tracks , his defensive contribution was pathetic . but in RM his role is completely changed and now he can do a hell of defending , that makes a lot of difference for us.

2: Gago for maxi , maxi was half the form he has now in 2010 , he was never a DM , he is a AM but given responsibility for DM.

3: under sabella our fullbacks have got limited access to unleash towards opponent , their major role now is covering the flanks .

i think these are the major difference , but i still agree with you may be we have to consider a option by sacrificing one of the strikers , but not sure who going to place in that position , adding one more DM wont be good either


vinu
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 9:02 PM
1
Wel, the most important things is that we don't hav anyone apart frm fav 4 who can create a chance frm out of nothing. The midfield and defensive players hav no innovation at all unlike other teams, and it is required in a big tournament like this


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 7:43 PM
0
I would merely like Cambiasso and a decent goalkeeper, and I think the team would be solid. But we won't get either.


San Isidro
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:51 PM
0
Why is everyone so critical all of a sudden? Because of one game? I think if people think that Fazio is the difference between winning the WC or not you are mistaken.
A team is more than a sum of its parts. They have to blend well together. I think Basanta Garay and Fernandez have done fine. Look at our record over the past 12 games or so.

If you want to be critical of Sabella, look at the inconsistency in GK, and his denial of alternatives. Sabella's fault is that he relies too much on Messi, like all previous coaches, and doesnt truly seek alternatives in all areas of the pitch that are viable.
Look at attack for example, we are still farting around with Palacio, Lavezzi, etc. These guys have been around forever and nothing. And don't bring up Tevez. He and Messi do not get along and thats the end of the story. Instead, why not more Iturbe, Icardi? These guys have to contribute at some point. Where is our creative midfielder? Where are our attacking wings? He has had 2-3 years to find these guys and nada.
This is the problem with our players, they go to Europe too soon and nothing becomes of them (Pastore, Lamela, Gaitan, Monzon, etc)

Bottom line, if the big 4 our clicking Sabella looks like a genius, if not, we are dead. Caballero could make a difference in PK, but Fazio is no savior.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:47 PM
1
Deb Argentina midfield is way better than the 2010 midfield..Gago is now a better option than Maxi in the same role,the Di Maria of 2014 is way better than the Di Maria of 2010..Even if Sabella decides to start the Fab 4 that doesn't mean the midfield will be weak on our squad, its just how Sabella plan to use certain players for certain games. at least Sabella will have several option on the bench unlike Maradona in 2010 wc who left out players like Zanetti, Cambiasso, and Requelme. Sabellla have a lot of midfield option at his disposal, its nothing like 2010..Mascherano, Biglia, Gago, Banega, Cambiasso (maybe, if selected),Banega, Maxi and Alvarez will all possible be at the world cup,their is nothing thin about this midfield..Maradona wanted Messi to pick up the ball at the halfway line and run at 9 German players, that's not what sabella have in mind..

This is how I see it, Sabella will play the Fab 4 in the group stages against Bosnia, Iran and Nigeria, and if we meet say Swiss or Ecuador in the round of 16, Sabella will still stick to the Fab 4, now if we make it to the quarter then Sabella will tweak the team and drop either Higuain or Aguero to either accommodate Biglia or Banega going forward through the rest of the tournament..The midfield is nothing like 2010, if that was the case we would have struggled over the past 3 years..


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:27 PM
0
Sosa and maxi will have similar roles
Ricky is dimarias sub


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:18 PM
0
for me its simple as it will be judged on where we finish at the end of 2014 world cup, 2010 we got to the 1/4s.
sure man to man 10 vs 14 we look better today, more balanced 2014 vs 2010 but as we have said and don't ever forget 02 as football games are not won on paper.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:14 PM
0
If we hav de greatest attack n cmprtvly weak dfnc its smart move is to sacrifice an attack for a dfnc.... Bt the worst thing is when dfncv minded he gofor 5-3-2.... That s de worst i think.... Keep five men infrnt of our goal n most of de possession concentrate there to add more nerve.... Hope he wont prfr dat in world cup.... World cup 2014 serious contenders playing in a negative minded frmtn.... Evn then he wont think abt breaking the possession frm midfield itself...


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:03 PM
0
We all know dat in normal periods our NT rocks n top de fifa rankings, n when comng to an imprtnt trmnt let dwn.... we shud rspct the oppostn n we shud realise that they too knw what we have n shud avoid kiddish tactics.... Our main prblm is we hav a lot of world class forwards n we fans lov dem a lot or the most.... But the no: of forwards that cud be included in a team has a limit.... The qustns raised wen tevez left out are much more dan dat of gaitan or fazio or gonzalo or willy.... Itz hard for us to believ dat higuain or aguero not gtng starts.... We r been in a fantasy world when cnstrctng our team.... Bt we mst com dwn to reality.... If we want to see World Cup in Leo's hand shud mov logically.....



Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:55 PM
0
Don't generalise things please. Whenever someone raises a concern and few others talk about it, the general perception here is 'look they all started trash talking again, spreading negativity and all'. It's not like that.

I was just comparing the midfield of Diego's team and Sabella's team and it just struck to me that they are not drastically different may be. Speak on that if you can.


Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:53 PM
0
@el principe: I don't get most of your points.

1. The player that replaces Tevez is Sergio Aguero. He doesn't do a lot of defending or even midfield work.

2. Team is more matured, I agree. I wasn't talking about that though.

3. You are talking about Fantastic 4 chemistry. I wasn't talking about Fantastic 4 either.

4. You are proving Fantastic 4 success in this point. We already know that.

5. I did not ask for 3 DM. I just asked if this midfield isn't thin as was the 2010 one.

6. I hope we are not going to take a chance with Argentina based on what Real Madrid are doing. I mean they might not win four tight matches in a row at some point and still carry on, we can't do that!!

7. I was not talking about the Romanis game. The squad for Sabellas has almost been the same all through the qualifiers as well. I was talking about that.


Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:44 PM
0
4-4-2 is fine. A 4-man midfield with 2 DM's means either of 2 options:

1. Long ball movements, which are good for Aguero and Higuain but a long ball movement will have to bypass Lionel Messi. That's not what we want.

2. Passing movement. And for that, Messi has no other option but to track down near the halfline and collect the ball from there. And then move forward.

In first case, Messi does nothing. In second case, Messi doing a lot physically.

***************************************************

The only thing which solves the problem is Gago and Di Maria playing higher up the pitch.

That restricts Zabaleta and Rojo. Everyone can't move up leaving just 3 men behind.

So that means less width in our game. An immediate disadvantage.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:44 PM
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Teams lyk liverpool, man city hav shown us so many examples for the prblms on open playng.....


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:40 PM
0
Game against romania is not even considering.... Past s past.... We can talk abt wc.... And in the game against romania if parkng the bus was prblm i wud say the btr sub for gago wud be ricky, sosa or lavezzi .... Dnt knw whthr he tried to keep cleen sheet... I m saying evn in our prevs matches we are playng very open game n while we scoring goals at one end we conceded too freely.... Of course we must appreciate sabella dat under him we are atleast scoring goals, bt in world cup like big games we cant play leaving these much open space.... If like the peru game if we conceded an early goal in wc against a decent team it let dwn us mentally n wud b nt easy to com back....


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:36 PM
1
Well put SulaV

Let me add the differences:
1. No Carlos Tevez. That's like a 90% difference already. Why? Tevez did not work well with Messi. It doesn't take any Argentine football experts to know this, even an eastern european football writer can easily see this.

2. The team is more matured after 4 years.

3. In 2010, they had no chemistry. Those "fake fantastic four" did not even play 1 minute together in the WCQ 2010... not until the last friendly against Canada. As you know Maradona kept changing the line up.

4. This real fantastic four is proven with 4 or 5 wins and 1 draw. Some of the victories were against bigger teams (example second half of Germany, Sweden, etc)

5. Please do not mention about having 3 DM. That was Batista tactic that the whole Argentina criticized. Now let me ask you, why repeat the same mistake?

Batista original first team squad:

-------------------Higuain
-------Tevez--------------------Messi

----------Cambiasso------Banega
--------------------Masche

6. Real Madrid played fantastic four with Bale, CR7, Di Maria, and Benzema and they looked almost flawless. Ancelotti clearly imitated us! Why can't we play the same? They are even more offensive minded than us as Carvajal, Marcelo, and Modric are way more offensive minded than Zaba, Rojo, and Gago. Even their DM, Xabi Alonso is 100 times more offensive minded than our Masche.

7. Judge Fantastic Four report on each minute they played, not just the Romania game.


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:20 PM
1
@Deb
the differnce between 2010 and 2014 team is sabella.. we have 2 Dms now.. masch and gago.... defensively gago>>maxi.. and dimaria is completely different player now... he tracks back to defend.. so we have 7 players defending when the ball is in our half...
romero
zaba---garay--fferz---rojo/basanta
--gago----------masch--------dimaria---
------------messi-------------
------aguero------higuain----

in our defense we have 3 cbs... remember in 2006 pekermen used colocinni in the flanks but he never went forward and stayed back with the other cbs... rojo is not only weak going forward he gets beat a lot.. it would be better if sabella played basanta at left and make him stay back all the time...


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:13 PM
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I dont think we should criticize our midfield so much just for one bad game against an easy team, and praise our defense for playing well against an easy team. Dont get me wrong our defense is better but this was not a true test. Our mid and offense just had a bad game. Everyone has been saying from midfield up we are good. Everyone chill out.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:11 PM
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Di maria has good recrd of assist.... But gago we can't see him as a break the wall midfielder, he is more of a holding midfielder, i lik him very much, his technc on ball etc... Bt he s nt best f a forward thnkng player.... And the worst thing is he can cmpktly go off against teams playing with extreme intensity.... Thatz ver biglia bcum more favourable custmr....


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:02 PM
0
Di maria had a brilliant game today..... Got the praise of commentators a lot for his unstoppable creative..... I think presntly he n modric seems like the most important players for ancelotti..... Confirmed starts....


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:58 PM
0
If we are scoring more goals its because our mid has been able to connect more. Gago had various assists so did di ma.


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:57 PM
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I think our team is dat going for world cup with maximum no: of strikers.... Itz really pitty if we dont learn from our own mistakes....


Pradi
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:52 PM
0
Let aguero n higuain share the 90 mins.... Datz the best option than giving half firing strikers playing time in a WORLD CUP match.... Itz bcoz the lack of control in midfield makes our defence so vulnerable.... Except rojo other 3 are sheer quality, especially we hav right back who is shortlisted in fifa's best 20 last year, and recently i seen an article that he is considered as the best right back for man city in the last 30 years or somthng... So if we replace rojo itself we get a great improvmnt....


Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:42 PM
0
We are better because:

1. Our defense is better. Even as a unit or in individual abilities.
2. Our forward line is also better. Scoring more goals and playing together as a unit.

But what connects these two? THE MIDFIELD.

That's why I am asking, how is our midfield better than the 2010 midfield?

Then it was Mascherano and Maxi, now it's Mascherano and Gago.

How is it that the 2010 midfield was a thin midfield, this one's not?

Just asking for a discussion. I am not saying it's a problem.


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:36 PM
0
we are only better if we get beyond the 1/4s.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:23 PM
0
But for the record we are way better than in 2010 no question about that.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:17 PM
0
Only use F4 in bad situations.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:17 PM
0
So be it higuain is agueros sub.


argentuban
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:11 PM
1
Yes we need more midfield.


msi2
(France)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:07 PM
0
Deb> As you wrote there's barely any diffence between 2010 and 2014, which is hilarious when you think about it... Hilarious or sad.

Gago being more or DM than Maxi who's more box to box midfielder and more offensive.


I do think if we want to balance the team (by balancing i meant toughening the midfield) i think we will have to give up on the fantastic four which unabalance the midfield quite a bit and add another midfielder. Or else we will get punished by an opponent that will manage to cut our team in two, separating our 4 defenders, our two midfielders and our ff. Any big team could do that and the punishment will be a translated by a new heavy score against us.


Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 3:45 PM
2
Our 2010 team vs Germany was:

(4 defenders) + (Mascherano + Maxi) + (Messi + Di Maria + Higuain + Tevez)

Our current team is:

(4 defenders) + (Mascherano + Gago) + (Messi + Di Maria + Higuain + Aguero)

We called that midfield a thin midfield!!

How is this midfield much different?


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 1:24 PM
0
Dinucci I know, names on paper means nothing once you step on the pitch, if you act as if the other team will just lay down and let u run over them, well, that wont happen..Wigan Athletic are playing with more heart while City are playing like headless chickens..


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 1:15 PM
0
Where all the negativity towards city for losing to wigan?!? See it happens dont mean shit.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:49 PM
0
Nasri trying too hard he needs to just relax and play simple football.he's playing as if he got something to prove..


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:33 PM
0
Don't think Aguero need to score an hat trick..he should play himself into full match fitness and not try and damage is hamstring again..


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:14 PM
0
Cambiasso is a quality player and you either have IT or not.
He's not the best out there in his position but he fits the bill for ARG.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:07 PM
0
Mancity Game is about to start, C'Mon Super Kun, I wanna see a hat-trick


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:07 PM
1
It looks like Cambiasso has rejuvenated himself this season after a poor campaign last term, a truely world class player, on the other hand at Rome, Biglia was quite impressive too, the problem that Lazio has they rely too much on Candreva and Klose to unlock opposition defence, which they can't provide consistently enough, I really would like to Cambiasso to be included in the world cup, btw dnt fight about Ansaldi, he is an average player, Rojo is fair and square above him, period!


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:07 PM
0
Also Maxi Moralez scored. He's style just like Isco.


Nithe
(Nepal)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:04 PM
1
I agree with Fazio what he has said about his chances to play for Argentina National Team. I don't know why Sabella doesn't tries with Fazio at center back positon if he is really looking for height. Fazio can be handy as defending midfielder role too as I have seen him perform well in Sevilla's color in that role.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 11:54 AM
0
Di Santos, Icardi should not go to the world cup..None of these guys are proven to play in a big game..Maybe next Copa are 2018 but not this summer world cup..Icardi have done nothing to merit a place at the world cup, so too Di Santos..


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 11:45 AM
0
Anything on the reaction of the players aside from what Messi said?


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:53 AM
0
Argentina playing in Romania is the best thing happen to that country for a while..The Romania Government probably make Wednesday 0 - 0 a national holiday..


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:46 AM
0
I needn't say nothing. Kidult compromising himself still. Like Romania-Argentina 5:1.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:36 AM
0
Cambiasso should go to the world cup...


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:35 AM
0
Huh, Palacky scored...


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:33 AM
0
golgolgolgoooooooooooooool palacio


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:29 AM
0
Inter Milan cant score to save their lives, this is the kind of attitude Palacky bring back to the NT..Get him (Palacky) out of the team ASAP..


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:18 AM
0
@kiddy so what now, you're making fun of people's sexuality???


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:14 AM
0
... and if you have know, We never will win World Cup with Romero, Rojo, Higuain, Banega, Alvarez, Lamela, Otamendi, Zabaleta (?) in squad. Haha


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 10:04 AM
0
Campagnaro, Cambiasso, Icardi and Palacio starting.


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 9:51 AM
1
Why are we always fighting here?!!!

NEWS FLASH, what you, me, or anybody else thinks SHOULD be the way WONT change anything in real life.

Its not like Sabella is listening to what we have to say here.

Whatever is going to happen will happen, regardless what WE THINK.


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 9:32 AM
0
kiddy or whatever your name is- like you're the only one who came here to support Argentina team...


Dfox
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 9:20 AM
0
I missed yesterday's game but I heard Messi played his brilliant self and who cares about Barcelona.

Fazio has a point but I'm afraid putting Sabella on the spot is a bad idea.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 9:12 AM
0
travis- yes Rojo is better than Anshady or whatever his name is..Well I came here to support the Argentina team not for likes...


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 8:50 AM
3
@Kid Roho is a better defender than Ansaldi?? You are not drunk neither high nor both, you are just plain stupid. The only thing i like about you is your new profile pic!!


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 8:41 AM
0
Sudhirfadi you're the one that is drunk not sabella, you're either drunk and high at the same time...Gonzalo is not better then Fernanadez..Iturbe is not better than Lamela and Ricky..Rojo is a better defender than Ansaldi..Augusto and Sosa I don't care about.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 8:35 AM
0
During of Sosa presence yesterday Atletico scored they only 2 goals and he had a assist.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 7:33 AM
0
@el principe,

Her name was Maru.She became very popular within a short
amount of time ;) But she understood football,that's for sure.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:56 AM
0
Less than 4 years ago when Sabella was just getting started, he had a dilemma. Our golden generation of defenders like Samuel, Demichelis, Burdisso, Coloccini, Milito were not getting any younger and with time, they would get even worse. So after a defeat in an away game vs. Venezuela in WCQ in the second or third game or something, Sabella tried something new. He decided to go for size and raw talents like Fede and Garay (Madrid outcast).

At that time, we had a bunch of younger defenders who were at similar level and age such as Garay, Otamendi, Fazio, Gonzalo, and Pareja. Sabella chose Garay and an outsider with good size, Fede to be the starters. You see Sabella is always one of those coaches who will give chance if they impress and will not call them again if they fail to impress (like Montillo, Pastore). Fede and Garay then were able to show Sabella that they are good enough to start for Argentina.

Up until today, how many fatal mistakes of Fede and Garay can you remember? I don't. They have proven to be a great discovery by Sabella. Not world clas, but coachable.

The case of Fazio is unique. I was the one who labelled him a failure a couple of years ago. He never lived up to expectation. Highly inconsistent. Only this year, he plays better than ever. Maybe he just peaks late like Roberto Ayala, I don't know, but before this season, he was a tall defender with great PASSING technique, but very average and soft defensively. With his size, he's nothing as strong as Vidic or Kompany. This year Fazio is different, though although I am not sure with just 3 months before the World Cup, Sabella should gamble and select him and ignore either Campagnaro or Otamendi or Basanta.

This is the problem, none of our defenders have shown anything bad to Sabella. Otamendi played good vs. Bosnia and even willing to move to Brazil to be a "spy". Basanta played great vs. Romania. If Campagnaro does not get playing time until the end of serie A, then maybe we can talk about Fazio (or even Samuel), but definitely not now.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 6:34 AM
0
@Kidult

Yes there was a female poster here around 2 years ago. I forgot her nickname, but she was really really a great one. She's from Argentina and she's a huge Messi fan and she does know football.


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 5:12 AM
0
I believe his 30 man squad will add

Di santo , cambiasso, .lamela, guinaza

Maybe Perez or gaitan if lamela still injured


mustB-Albiceleste
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 4:57 AM
0
Some question about Sabella's team selection (with all due respect to Sabella, who I believe did better than our previous coaches)

Argentina is a team with no creativity in the midfield.

-> We have so many great creative midfielders but whom Sabella has selected - Brana, Cerro, Somoza, Guinazu, Ponzio, Sosa. Do you belive that they are better than Cambiasso, Gaitan, Enzo Perez or Pastore ?
-> He selected Rojo as Left back but ingored Ansaldi, Insua (who I think much better than Rojo as LB). Went to Fiorentina and selected Roncaglia (who was nothing but a Bench warmer and pretty average) but ignored their best defender Ganzalo?
-> Ignored 2 best defenders in la Liga Musacchio and Fazio.

Yet I believe we are in good shape but could have been in better shape.


mustB-Albiceleste
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 3:47 AM
0
Argentina is a team with pool of talents...but their coaches, AFA, Grondonda and just ruining a good generation.

In 2006 - Pakerman did all right and Argentina was one of the genuine contenders for WC but when Argentina almost won against Germany then Pakerman's silly substitutions gifted Germany chance to equalize.

In 2010 - Maradona's ego and ultra attacking formation (4-1-5) with Messi, Higuan, Tevez, Di Maria all in upfront cost the game against Germany. Just imagine a midfield with Cambiasso- Mascherano-Banega/Di maria and the great Juan Roman Riquelme against Germany in 2010, I am sure result would have been different. Moreover he played 2 out of position fullbacks Hope Maradona will stay away from NT this time.

In 2014 - Sabella did relatively better than the previous coaches. Gave Messi a free role and created a formation so that Messi can play his game. As a result under sabella Messi scored 21 goals in 22 matches. Also build a good defense (if not great) yet he has his favorite players. Preferring Romero (a 2nd choice GK at Monaco, no playing time, short of confidence) as first choice goal keeper over Willy is nothing but madness. Also ignoring quality defenders Musacchio, Fazio, Gonzalo and preferring Rojo, Basanta never a good sign. Yet Argentina looks in better shape than previous years. Defense may not be world class but they are hardworking, always fight for the ball, never give-up and moreover they know their limitations . Moreover superb form of Kun, Higuan, Di maria along side Messi really giving some hope. Yet I believe we are still behind than Germany, Spain, Brazil even Natherlands and France.

Hope to see something better this time.


mustB-Albiceleste
(India)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 3:46 AM
1
I have seen so many guys are saying that we don't have time to choose Willy so better to go ahead with Romero.

My question to them this WHY ?

In 1990, World Cup winner Nery Pumpido was No # 1 and because of that Angel Comizzo left the team (because he was 2nd Choice). Then 3rd Choice Sergio Goycochea played his first game directly in the World Cup..rests is history.

Then why can't Willy ?


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 1:16 AM
0
I give you an example on how stubborn Sabella is:
you hear and read everywhere how people say that we have a weak defense.....Argentina's only weakness is the defense, yada yada.....well it's not entirely true.
If, and if only Sabella replaces Rojo with a better LB, we will have a solid defense. Sabella stuck with Rojo and never changes his mind.....just one player makes our defense looks average when in fact all other defenders are good/great except for Rojo. Add to that if Sabella selected Willy as the GK which also considered within the defense strength....we will have even stronger defensive ability.
Rojo will stay our LB no matter what the entire world thinks or fans ask for. It's very frustrating.


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 3/9/2014 at 12:40 AM
1
@sudhirfadi lol good post, made me laugh esepcially the Iturbe> lamela ricky a part, and the fazio/gonzalo > ff. was pretty good too :)


baker
(India)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 11:30 PM
1
i cant believe people here still doubting FF..? he is been our consistent performer through out the qualifer and in last match he bossed the defense too...?



Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 10:58 PM
0
WILLY>ROMERO, ANDUGAR
FAZIO/GONJALO>FF,OTAMENDI,LISANDRO
ANSALDI>ROJO
CAMBIASSO>GAGO
ENZO PEREZ>AGUSTO,SOSA
TEVEZ>LAVEZZI,PALACIO
ITURBE>LAMELA,RICKY A.
SABELLA GO HOME YOU ARE DRUNK............


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 10:12 PM
0
I get it now, Lamela was a surety for Brazil bt seems like with is back injury he wont be able to make the 23 man squad so Sabella went back for Di Santos to possible replace Lamela..Smh; Really Sabella, stop being selfish and ignorant..This is about winning a world cup not who you like best and who you don't..With all this being said I do respect Sabella and is choices, but man, I'm getting real frustrated now..Tevez and Cambiasso should be in the team, PERIOD!!!!

I agree with Arg2014, Argentina should not left out the big names like Tevez and Cambiasso, what I don't agree with, is that the ''ship is sinking'' that's way too much of an exaggeration...


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 9:55 PM
0
At least Fazio has no resume as Cambiasso whom I don't believe he couldn't stand a chance not even a sub. Cambiasso can score goals better than any of sub forwards: Lavezzi/Palacio.

Big names really need to be pushed now after the poor display from Argentina against Romania. Tevez, Cambiasso, Gaitan, etc.....need to be a part or the ship is sinking big time. Will Argentina have fans after that showcase? Usually March friendlies before the world cup is used to attract fans to buy tickets and support the team, and that\s why its important....injuries wouldn't be an excuse because there is enough time to recover before June.....whereas the friendlies in June should be taken with extra caution (not March ones)....that's why all other big teams went to provide a strong display.


Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 9:11 PM
1
Sorry fazio, you didnt play for sabella libertadores winning side estudiantes, sabella didnt choose tevez, gonjalo,willy,enzo perez so be calm. We need a footballing knowledge manager for 2018, but 2014 is too late .germany brasil and spain easily beat us more that 3 hoals.


Abs
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 8:19 PM
0
There are tones of players who deserve the call up ahead of many players in the national team, and Fazio isn't even one of the top five in that list !!


hi2suresh
(India)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 7:42 PM
0
Sabella is consistent in pissing off fans when it comes to player selection.

Expect to see Sosa, Rojo (Damn lucky guy) & Disanto in 30 players list. Its Sabella's way of saying "Dear fans......Manage your expectations"

God help us.


Kenneth
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 7:39 PM
1
I honestly don't care how these players play for their club, i look at how they play for Argentina. When Fazio was called, he was slow, soft and non existent, maybe that's changed who knows, but when he wore the N/T shirt it seemed like he was not up to it...


riquelme.10
(Canada)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 7:12 PM
1
I think it sucks to be an Argentine player! Other countries dream of having half our talents, while they are all over Europe and being overlooked....

I've realized sabella always tend to select low profile players! Is it that he can't control star players? Or high profile players? Or he wants messi to stand out and be respected and supported by these players?

Whatever the reason might be its f****d up reasoning... look at del bosque, he managed to unite stars of the most 2 rival clubs in the world, in an ethnic seperated country!

Its clear that sabella over looking many great talents that would probably start i if they to play for another country... its a Shame... but again no wonder why aregntina hasn't won anything major since early 90s.


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 6:52 PM
2
Better than Otamendi but to be fair all of you guys were calling for otamendi not so long ago till he left porto.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 6:46 PM
0
I never ask this question, Haman brought it to my attention..Are their any female posters here on Mundo? Have their ever been any female poster here in the past?


Trini Pupi
(Trinidad And Tobago)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 6:32 PM
0
After doing a lot of research in to the AFA and Grondonda's way of doing things. I am no longer surprised by these silly selection decisions. It was a sad eye opener that the AFA President has his own agendas and it even goes as far as play selections.

The coaches get the stick in the end but its very disgraceful what goes on and perhaps with a better president who's agenda was in the best Interest of Argentina we would have won 2 more world cups by now.

If you stop and think about it...what person in their right mind would ever hire Diego Maradona to coach Argentina? It was a commercial success and frenzy but it was a horrible decision managerial wise. For the newer fans this will just be confusing and frustrating for the older ones who have been around have grown either accustomed or number to such nonsense.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 6:24 PM
0
Haman nope, no Chica here, just some real patriotic Argentina supporters in my pic..


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 6:02 PM
1
Kidult, is this you in the pic are you a chica??


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 6:00 PM
1
Well done Fazio, your last hope has gone with the winds!

Never tell Sabella to call you, cause he follows his egoism and wouldn't mind to call up Chamot ahead of you!


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 5:55 PM
0
@Kid, its Sabellas selection policy, its pretty annoying and also his 4-2-4 formation, its not that great afterall.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 5:44 PM
0
arg2014 I think you're over hyping Germany, Spain, France, England and Netherlands(do they even have a team worth talking about?)If you think Germany is solid you need to check their blogs, if Chile had their finishing boost on they would have humiliated Germany in their own stadiums...France lost to Ukraine and only qualified because of a cheated goal that was offside..England? Really they won't even past the group stage the same as Holland...Spain need to more than one goal per game to win this world cup..None of these teams will beat us come summer in Brazil...Don't let a Romania game fool you...


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 5:35 PM
0
Whoscored.com top rated defender in La liga so far and one of the most inform defenders at the moment, what Sabella did? Calling up Lisandro over him, These Argentine coaches are out of the globe!!


arg2014
(Canada)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 5:28 PM
0
@SulaV: that was funny.....well you guys keep saying Sabella knows better and we have to trust him. He shipped all his troops and failed to defeat Romania. What will he do when he has to face Germany again, Spain, France, England, or Netherlands?


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 3:48 PM
0
We need people who want to be in the squad like this. He deserves to be one of the extra defenders called.


pallab
(India)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 3:42 PM
0
fazio should be in NT


Deb
(India)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 3:07 PM
0
Exactly. Same feelings are there for Willy also I guess. I mean these people like Fazio, Willy, etc. are black and white better than a few called.

Sabella should better win the trophy.


KidultHood
(United States)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 3:04 PM
0
I do think its disrespectful to select players like L.Lopez over Fazio who has been in Europe at a high level for a longer period..I would be mad too if I see a younger guy like Lopez got call up and I didn't..


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 3/8/2014 at 2:58 PM
1
who needs fazio when we have rojo, romero, sosa and very soon disanto!

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