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Posted by Roy (Roy Nemer) Monday, February 24, 2014 Go To Comments

Alejandro SABELLA going for height

Alejandro SABELLA is going for height when it comes to defenders.

Alejandro SABELLA is calling up tall players to defend the team. For several years, Argentina has had a problem when it came to playing against physically strong opponents. In the past, we've had the likes of Nicolas BURDISSO and Gabriel HEINZE against Miroslav KLOSE, Adriano, Didier DROGBA and other strong center forwards who are good in the air. Argentina's vulnerability at set pieces was evident. No need to look further than the goal conceeded against Germany at the 2006 World Cup or the goal let in against Uruguay at the 2011 Copa America. Every set piece in that clash against the Urugayans was an extra year taken off my life.

As I was going through the players called by SABELLA for the upcoming match in March, two things stuck out for me. Only nine players (ten, including Maxi RODRIGUEZ) have World Cup experience. Those players being Sergio ROMERO, Mariano ANDUJAR, Nicolas OTAMENDI, Javier MASCHERANO, Angel DI MARIA, Lionel MESSI, Rodrigo PALACIO (took part in the 2006 World Cup), Gonzalo HIGUAIN, Sergio AGUERO and Maxi RODRIGUEZ. The second thing which stood out was that out of those ten players, only one of them was a defender. The one who was being used as a scapegoat by many people back in South Africa. That player being Nicolas OTAMENDI.

Alejandro SABELLA is going with a completely inexperienced team when it comes to tournaments with Argentina. The second thing which stood out and that has been evident since SABELLA took the reigns of the team was how tall these defenders are compared to previous years. I dug up some numbers and looked at how tall our defenders were in 2010 compared to the ones we have now. Here are the defenders who were part of the team in 2010 at the World Cup:

Martin DEMICHELIS: 1.84cm, 6'0 feet
Clemente RODRIGUEZ: 1.67cm, 5'4 feet
Nicolas BURDISSO: 1.83cm, 6'0 feet
Gabriel HEINZE: 1.78cm, 5'8 feet
Ariel GARCE: 1.77cm, 5'8 feet
Walter SAMUEL: 1.83cm, 6'0 feet
Nicolas OTAMENDI: 1.84cm, 6'0 feet

Average height: 1.79cm, 5'8 feet

Here are the defenders who have been called for the match in March:
Hugo CAMPAGNARO: 1.81cm, 5'9 feet
Lisandro LOPEZ: 1.87cm, 6'1 feet
Federico FERNANDEZ: 1.90cm, 6'2 feet
Gino PERUZZI: 1.78cm, 5'8 feet
Pablo ZABALETA: 1.78cm, 5'8 feet
Ezequiel GARAY: 1.89cm, 6'2 feet
Marcos ROJO: 1.87cm, 6'1 feet
Jose BASANTA: 1.88cm, 6'1 feet
Nicolas OTAMENDI: 1.84cm, 6'0 feet

Average height: 1.84cm, 6'0 feet

Excluding Gino PERUZZI and Lisandro LOPEZ, both of which have not been in the team, the average height goes up from 1.84cm to 1.85cm.

That's a 6cm height advantage compared to that of 2010. While it may not sound like much, in terms of set pieces or crosses, every cm and every inch counts. I'm 6 foot 4, which is 197cm and the amount of aeriel duels I've won while playing as a defender are too many to count. Anyone who's ever played as a defender or even jumped for a ball will know how it is. The match against Sweden was one of our most difficult matches in terms of aeriel fights. I don't think anyone here is a fan of Germany's Thomas MULLER, who's 186cm tall or 6 foot 1 but the amount of diving headed goals he scores prove my point. I'm not saying I want to play against Germany but I feel slightly more comfortable.

Many will say that if SABELLA really is going for height why haven't Federico FAZIO or Mateo MUSACCHIO been called. The reason could very easily be because it's too late. It's too late for SABELLA to integrate a new center back to the team. OTAMENDI has played with the team in the past and as stated would be the only defender who would have World Cup experience.

More often than not our inability to defend set pieces have been our downfall but under SABELLA and with two tall CB's, it's been better than previous years.




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shOvwar
(United States)
Posted on 3/4/2014 at 2:22 AM
0
Santiago Vergini is 6'3"


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 3/4/2014 at 1:22 AM
1
@Travis, maybe you've missed my many views on Sabella as a coach. Of coz I know and I LIKE what he's doing. But if I m looking for friends who want to discuss tactics and other aspects of the NT here on Mundo,what we have seen so far not what we're going to see from the team. It's not for you to dictate to me what i want to discuss here. Smart asses like you who think player bashing will improve the team play, go on with your negative shit but don't get personal with other's views. Do your thing, bashing players at your will. Maybe negativity will reward you some day.


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 3/3/2014 at 1:59 AM
1
@Freeman in that case, discussing tactics and whatever system in Mundo also a fucking waste of time as well since Sabella probably won't used the tactics and the system you guys were raves about. What do you guys takes Sabella for??? An idiot for a coach? Sabella is brilliant, unlike you guys who're only bunch of smart assess who raves about this system works, that tactics wins World Cup, that players kick assess blablabla, if Sabella read this blog about this system shit you guys talk about, he will get a heartattack from too much laughing, and we don't want that to happened, not until Argentina win the Cup.
I can say this too, Sabella knows what he's doing, from player selection, tactics, and systems for Argentina, you guys stay still, wait till June, watch the broadcast on TV and, keep you stupid mouth shut.

Thing is, if people here want to bashing up, thrashing up, fucking up the player, then let them be, not all Argentina players is favorites here, players like Sosa, Roho, Romero, they don't get much love here, as much as people give love to Messi, Kun, Mascherano, Fernandez or Gago. They love/hate for a reason. If you guys seriously get sick of it, don't like it, felt annoyed, then go somewhere else. This blog is great because of all this shit. People here are awesome, most of them!!!


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 3/2/2014 at 11:06 PM
0
@pablo
hahahaha... yes thats the difference between a fan boy and a fan!


pablo.d
(New Zealand)
Posted on 3/2/2014 at 8:12 PM
2
"Player bashing is a waste of time"
but it makes me feel better :)


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 3/2/2014 at 3:03 PM
2
Player bashing is a waste of time since the coach sees something in his choices that you guys don't. I only see a few people discussing tactics and playing systems, things that decide matches,here on Mundo. Rather, most people here just want to dictate to the coach who he should pick and think ARG will win the WC automatically. Personally, I think our biggest challenge is to get past the quarter finals. Only then we stand a chance.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/2/2014 at 12:05 PM
0
Sabella want Rojo because he is hight. He has great phisical conditions... But his defending game mekes me afraid enduringly. I hope he has something good to offer on World Cup like KidultHood believes.


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 3/2/2014 at 4:12 AM
2
@Freeman YES! of course the "Roho bashing" will continue, you can expect that from people like me and few more in Mundo. If you don't like it, shut up, and keep praising him for all I care. Not everybody in Sabella's squad is a darling to every Argentina fans here. I understand Roho is your "crush", and you can never live without him, but who cares? Roho will get some "criticize", "hates" and "dislikes" from Argentina fans here, live with it!


Freeman E
(Namibia)
Posted on 3/2/2014 at 4:02 AM
1
And so continues the Rojo bashing! Wow! people make it sound like every goal conceded was Rojo's fault. People forget that he overlaps and puts in some good crosses and he gives the team width during attacks a bit like Sorin. That's something I've never seen from Basanta, Campa and Zaba can't do effectively on the left coz they can't cross with their lefts at speed. Fullbacks in the modern game can't be just defenders but they have offer support in attack with crossing and passing. Rojo offers mobility with his off the ball runs, something different as a LB. I like what I saw with Orban too, in the 1 match he played so far.


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 9:55 PM
0
@outlaw yep, Basanta is better than Roho, although Basanta is defnitely not my favorite. I never liked Roho, his cross is weak and off to no one, same goes with Sosa. Both this guys shouldn't be near the Argentina WC squad. I will replace Roho with Ansaldi, and this Sosa with Alvarez or Lamela or even better Pastore at any time. I see your favorite's Gaitan is getting better lately, so why not him?


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 1:16 PM
0
Rojo has a some potential but I'm afraid that he could plays in World Cup most important matches like Otamendi 4 years ago against Germany. I hope I'm wrong. I like Basanta.


Juli2014
(Canada)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 12:57 PM
0
@Outlaw - I like your lineup for Wednesday. The only doubt I have is Rojo. I haven't seen enough of him and what I have seen really hasn't impressed me.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 12:52 PM
0
Arglover I'm cool with outlaw..:D


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 12:35 PM
0
Garcia is pretty good for Werder Bremen this season.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 12:33 PM
0
Seems like an epic battle going on between Outlaw-Kidulthood.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 12:26 PM
0
Anyway at Wednesday probably we will see as line up: Romero, Zabaleta, Fede, Garay, Rojo, Gago, Macherano, Di Maria, Messi, Higuain and Aguero.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 12:22 PM
0
Kidult: I have to change 2 players of our first squad for players who are in Sabella's NT as subs - what crazy in this? Anyone of us have something objections to Sabella choices.
And forget about Tevez. He won't be nevermore in NT and I'm glad for this. As Sabella said he unfit to our team.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 11:49 AM
0
@Outlaw...lol@''You are not alpha and omega to ban that''...I never said you have offended me, I just stated that some of the things you post are a bit annoying...You do have the right to say whatever you want. How am I against freedom of speech? Right now, we are having a substantial debate and its all good with me..I have nothing against your comments..Just keep the Brazilian comments on the Brazil NT blogs..


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 11:35 AM
0
When I'm writing I prefer I mean "in my opinion". Nothing else. And you Kidult really must to learn what is freedom of speech. It is just my judgement, my opinion. This forum is to write what people thinking about Argentina National Team. You are not alpha and omega to ban that. I don't offend anyone here for my opinion.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 11:26 AM
0
outlaw those were your own words, I may paraphrase some of them but those were your thoughts..Remember when I made a list pairing Brazil individual players to ours? That's when you replied with the ''Neymar is on par with Messi'' or ''Fernandinho is not worse than Mascherano''(lol) etc

Anyways, let me ask you something, who are currently Argentina top two goal scorers on the team? I'm just glad you're not the coach friend, because your tactics are just way too crazy, Campagrano is a good player but only after Zabaleta..Palacio as SulaV said, is only on the team because of Tevez short comings..If Tevez was to get on the squad, Palacio would be the first name up to make space for him..


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 11:15 AM
0
''Zaba and Higgy are no good'' - It's not my words. I just say maybe we have better options than Zaba and Higuain. Maybe Campagnaro, Palacio, or maybe we could play 4:4:2 with Biglia/Maxi in midfield or 5:3:2 like against Bosnia. Higuain is good but IMO there is a lot of strikers better in the World.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 11:10 AM
0
To Kidult: Where I wrote "Jo is on par with Aguero"?. Where? These aren't my words. When you start with lies, you are exagerrate man.
And what's wrong is in comparing our players to Brazilian. I doing it because Brazil is probably the first te am who we need beat to win World Cup. I wrote ''Dani Alves scores, Neymar assist'' because that was during City - Barcelona game, and we just discussed about Brazilian strength. Please don't remove from the context my word.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 10:12 AM
0
Does any one know where sabella is now Italy or Spain he will allegedly go to Spain to see willy


Chalz
(Oman)
Posted on 3/1/2014 at 7:51 AM
0
@Kidulthood, lol.......


SulaV
(Canada)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 7:05 PM
1
Palacio better than higuain is the biggest joke ever... palacio is only in the team because tevez is a bitch!!


guled
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 4:00 PM
0
Higuain and zabaleta are good players our problem is goalkeeper and left back not right back zabaleta is solid


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 3:56 PM
1
The German league is way too over hype..I was glad when Real Madrid gave Schalke a beat down..At least Lisandro Lopez and Getafe never got embarrassed the way Schalke did against Real Madrid...


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 3:52 PM
3
I'm not here to silent anyone comments but if I see annoying post I will respond to them..

outlaw;

''Neymar on par with Messi''

''Hulk is better than Higuain''

''Fernando is not worse than Mascherano'' (I wonder what that was about? lol)

''Zaba and Higgy are no good''

'' Jo is on par with Aguero''

''Dani Alves scores, Neymar assist''

These are some of the annoying things I hate..If I want to read comments as such then I would go on a Brazilian blog..


Ayr18
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 3:32 PM
0
Angel Correa>Draxler :)


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 3:15 PM
0
@Outlaw: Palacio is better than Higuain. That's why we need him more during the endgame when people are tired and he can make the most of it. Let Higuain start and score a few easy goals off assists from a fresh Lionel Messi. Serves our NT all right. :)


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 3:08 PM
0
last europa final

perez, salvio, gaitan messed chelsea up big time and all other teams on the way.




mamoun "elpipita"
(Iraq)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 2:18 PM
0
Guys guys, tempers are flaring abit here, lets try and dial it down and let us never forget that we're better than many of those troll infested football sites that seem to spread like cancer.
Regarding criticism, well I think it's warranted, nay NEEDED! Especially the constructive kind and as long as people post their comments in a respectable (albeit critical) manner they should be able to do so without anyone having to jump down their throats.
If @outlaw prefers palacio to pipita or he isn't convinced with Zabaleta then he has every right to do so as long as his tone is respectful (and it is!).
Personally I think pipita is a gem but I also happen to like Palacio as a viable backup so I consider Argentina blessed to have them both!
Zabaleta has never really convinced me if I'm totally honest, sure he's a monster at Man-City but somehow that doesn't really translate to the NT, that is not to say that he's bad because he isn't, it's just that when playing for the albicelestes he doesn't seem to be the world class RB that he is when playing in the premier league.

@dammage7 I have to respectfully disagree with some of your assessments regarding the albicelestes' members.
Pipita, Dimaria and Masch are Godzilla sized monsters who have proven to be multifaceted players with an incredible work ethic and any national team would kill to have them.
Gago is WC (when playing for the NT, which is the only thing that counts for me!) as is Zabaleta (when playing for club unfortunately but we're sorely lacking in the FB position so beggars can't be choosers).
For me Garay and palacio are fantastic players who have alot to offer the NT, they're both keepers.
Banega is one of the most talented midfielders out there but attitude sadly may eventually bring about his downfall.
Federico in my opinion will be Argentina's Ayala in the not so distant future mark my words!
As for Sosa and Rojo well I have to agree, they're both average but hey all teams have those.
To be honest Dammage7 I can't really fault you on your assessment because football like everything else is very subjective, often depending on which and how many football matches we watch and what mood we're in.
With that being said I implore you to look at the collective unit rather than the individuals, because that's how the rest of the footballing world is seeing the albicelestes right now; it's not just Argentina's frontline that's giving other teams a pause, it's the fact that Sabella's team is a synchronized UNIT thus prompting the likes of Zico and even Pele to favor Argentina over Brazil who on paper have a fancier squad overall.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 1:43 PM
0
outlaw who cares what you prefer, go coach a team and select who you care so much about..


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 1:41 PM
0
outlaw Just please stop talking about the Ecuador game..Higuain was carrying an injury so it affected how he played in the game vs Ecuador in the USA, that's why he didn't play in the Bosnia game and he also miss the Napoli game after the two friendlies in the States..How many goals did Palacio scored vs Bosnia? Zero!!! I'm a Huge fan of Palacio but I see no reason comparing our players with each other..

You keep on bringing up the meaningless friendly game in the USA vs Ecuador but when it matter Higuain scored on them during the world cup qualifiers and assist Messi on a goal..What you say makes no sense, if you keep talking like this, people will laugh at you, just lay off the Zabaleta and Higuain conversation for now.. change the topic..


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 1:20 PM
0
Campagnaro is a better defender i agree but he looks better than Zabaleta in the NT because he stays back mostly and doesn't venture forward more often like zabaleta. Thus he doesn't get caught out of the position.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 1:17 PM
0
And I prefer Campagnaro as RB because he's better as defender,


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 1:09 PM
0
@mmh007: You are not clairvoyant to say Higuain will be better on World Cup. As I say at some time- with Palacio we winning. Just compare last matches: against Ecuador (with Higuain) and against Bosnia (with Palacio). Higuain seems like wise player (he know where stand in place) but he isn't so lively as Palacio. He's lacking of acceleration and he can't dribble. Here are factual arguments. And he's missing - in most important game in World Cup you have often the one chance to scored...


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 11:48 AM
0
I see huge future of Gaitan as a player, wish to see him in 2018 wc.


mmh007
(Argentina)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 11:32 AM
3
Your comment doesn't make sense my friend Outlaw. Anyone would laugh at your face if you say you can't trust in Zaba & Pipita. Zabaleta has been improved and right now one of the best RB out there and so is Higuain. It's just unfair you diss Higuain. Do you think Palacio would be best FAB4 without Higuain. Than you are wrong my friend bcoz Higuain movement make FAB4 is more lethal. I don’t know why can't you see that...and who do you think Sabella should choose for RB. Zabaleta is best we have. Even ask Spanish team or Germany or Brazil they would love to have those two players(Zaba& Pipita) you are doubt in them. Nothing personal but you argument and doubt and expression is not fair. We are all agree that maybe Rojo and Romero could be our weakest link but you never know it's WC and it's in our backyard. ..nothing personal


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 11:28 AM
0
Germany squad for Chile friendly:

Goalkeepers: Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Roman Weidenfeller (Borussia Dortmund).

Defenders: Jerome Boateng (Bayern Munich), Matthias Ginter (Freiburg), Kevin Grosskreutz (Borussia Dortmund), Marcell Jansen (Hamburg), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich), Shkodran Mustafi (Sampdoria), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal), Marcel Schmelzer (Borussia Dortmund).

Midfielders: Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen), Andre Hahn (Augsburg), Mario Goetze, Toni Kroos, Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich), Mesut Ozil, Lukas Podolski (Arsenal), Andre Schuerrle (Chelsea), Sidney Sam (Bayer Leverkusen).

Attackers: Pierre-Michel Lasogga (Hamburg), Miroslav Klose (Lazio).

Spain squad for Italy friendly;

Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas [Real Madrid], Pepe Reina [Napoli], Victor Valdes [Barcelona]

Defenders: Juanfran Torres [Atletico Madrid], Javi Martinez [Bayern Munich], Sergio Ramos [Real Madrid], Jordi Alba [Barcelona], Cesar Azpilicueta [Chelsea], Raul Albiol [Napoli].

Midfielders: Xabi Alonso [Real Madrid], Sergio Busquets, Xavi Hernandez, Andres Iniesta & Cesc Fabregas [Barcelona], Koke [Atletico Madrid], Thiago Alcantara [Bayern], Jesus Navas & David Silva [Man City], Santi Cazorla [Arsenal].

Attackers: Diego Costa [Atletico], Alvaro Negredo [Man City], Pedro Rodriguez..

Sorry, but I don't fair any of these players in South America, none of these teams attack are as frightening as Argentina..Brazil is the only team I'm most worried about..


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 11:20 AM
2
@outlaw You're the one that is bringing up politics in the discussion, not me, what's up with that? I'm not here to prove that I'm Argentina biggest number one fan, hence I don't need to talk about how long I have been watching local Argentinean football...Gaitan is a good player but I just don't see him in Sabella squad at the moment..Gaitan, Salvio, Yacob, Musacchio, Iturbe etc are all players for the future..I know when a player is bad or when a player is a good players, I have no blinders over my eyes friend..The fact of the matter is that, a lot of supporters are GLORY HUNTERS, all these people you see BASHING Rojo will be drooling all over him in a couple of seasons, Rojo will have a great world cup, I have no doubt..Not because a German player is playing good in the Bundes Liga makes him better than a certain Argentinian player; I have heard so much about this Draxler, so I decide to watch the Schalke vs Real Madrid game and I saw nothing special about Draxler..Argentine players will always be a step ahead of Germany when it comes down to talent of local players...

I respect coach Sabella with all his choices, and once the final 23 is selected I will not criticize the team during the world cup..That's just me, its hard for me to be negative about our team at any given time, at any given day..Our current team is on par with all the other contenders and is currently better than some of the contenders..



Alam
(India)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 11:03 AM
0
Enzo perez,gaitan,salvio,mussachio,fazio,gonzalo rodriguez,speroniand wily caballero are the players which argentina needs to win this world cup 2014.I dont like sabella team selections coz it seems to me he is just like another disaster coach for argentina national team.Sabella dont want competition in his squad and it leads many players in his squad feels sure about thier selection.argentina asateam is not evolving and to win this world cup teamwho is going to evolve are going to win this world cup.


Poto
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 10:45 AM
0
Giatan and salvio have great future with the national team.salvio is just coming off a surgery.


Sudhirfadi
(Japan)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 10:25 AM
0
@outlaw, absolutely right dude.gaitan is a big player in making. A season ago even man utd fan were making photo of gaitan having utd jersie. I wonder why sabella will choose ricky,lamela and sosa ahead of gaitan.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 10:11 AM
1
When I've been writing some time ago that Gaitan could be perfect subs for Di Maria then Kidult asked: Who is Gaitan in European football. He have not renown. But renown not playing. As we see not only for me he could be in NT.


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 10:03 AM
1
Kidult: you are wearing blinkers. When I'm critical about Higuain, Zabaleta, Banega or Alvarez you see it. But when I'm cheering about Aguero, Palacio, Messi, Maxi, Biglia, Gaitan, or Moralez game then you don't see it. I'm just want to point players who are the weakest link in our team. I have no confidence in Zabaleta and Higuain. And I've been writing why I have no confidence. So don't talk nonsense. When I'm writing about rivals goals it is only to compare. Because You are so staring at our players that you don't see nothing else. You don't see how great players have our rivals. When you talking about Brazil, Spain or Germany players it is just about they lacks. You are one point of view man. So naive. If I am the wirest fan here then you are the most of naive. Homines id, quod volunt, credunt. You are man of stats. Still adduce to stats. But stats it's not playing. I have eyes and I see how good is Higuain. One goal in game not prejudge that he had good game. He hadn't for me. When certain of you understand that it is my opinion. You Americans who wanted bring your's democration to all nations you schould to learn freedom of speech yourself. Certain here would be burn at the stake for diffrent opinions. Maybe I'm here to force to think and criticism someone of mutual admiration society. I'm a type Advocatus Diaboli. But all the same time I'm big fan of Argentinians football. I don't watching for Napoli matches to criticize Higuain at any price. I'm watching to know how good players we have in NT. I know about argentinian league much more than you Kid then don't talk that I'm Brazil fun. And makes me laugh when someone cite time and again words certain notable of football world. Like: Pele says, Guardiola says... or commentator says. Argumentum ad verecundiam - it doesn't appeal to me. It is good argue for "il pensiero debole" - weak minds. I have eyes own and I can evaluate.


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 9:58 AM
0
I think our main concern is the fitness of our Fab4. If all of Messi, Di Maria, Higuain and Aguero arrive in Brazil with good fitness and form, we should be difficult to manage. By any opposition.



Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 9:53 AM
0
I am happy with that 23. @travis

Defense is 6/10, midfield is 8/10 and attack is 9/10. Romero in good form or inclusion of Willy, who is in good form anyway, will make it a world cup winnable team.


xtreme
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 9:50 AM
0
@baker,5 defenders formation was only played in high altitude game where his main goal was to get a draw rather than a win, hence 5 defenders. There's no way in hell sabella would ever use 5 in the back in world cup with the amount of attacking talents at his disposal.


Mafioso
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 9:42 AM
1
Sosa won't go,Alvarez will...

Zabaleta is one of the best right-backs,I'm forgetting Fernandez's nt performance,still he is a regular starter of Serie A's 3rd best team under a Top-class manager,Garay and Rojo are two best CBs of Portugal..How is actually this defense average?


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 9:42 AM
1
i dont see lamela going and ricky Alvarez will go.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 8:33 AM
0
@travis you are right those will be in the squad the attack is excellent midfielders are ok the defense is average the goalkeeper is terrible but if sabella acts smart and calls willy our defense will improve from average to good instantly grande willy


baker
(India)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 8:26 AM
0
@elprincple : i agree with you , but the reason why i am thinking we will have 8 defenders in squad is , sabella have the tendency to have the formation of 5 defenders..


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 7:33 AM
0
Sabella 23 squad to Brazil is so predictable at this moment:

1.romero
2.andujar
3.orion
4.zaba
5.fede
6.garay
7.roho
8.campagnaro
9.otamendi
10.basanta
11.mascherano
12.gago
13.maria
14.banega
15.biglia
16.lamela
17.sosa
18.maxi r
19.messi
20.higuain
21.kun
22.lavezzi
23.palacio

unless injury, this will be his 23 man to go to Brazil, what do you guys think of this??? Terrible? Strong? Excellent squad?


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 7:15 AM
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im not a troll, im a pessimist. as for being a fan, on xtratime forum, ive been posting since 2004, problem is no one post there on arg forum any more. thankfully i found this.

As for the squad, problem is sabella will pick SOSA.
and the cambiasso rumour never was for intermilan esteban, was goal keeper of all boys, nico!!!

el principe i agree i think sabella will take those 7 defenders, if he takes 8, i hope for peruzzi. in a perfect worls he will drop an old man in hugo and take both lopez and peruzzi.

the midfield is the difficult one, one of banega and gago could miss out
sosa will go, meaning augusto, and lamela can missout

there are alot of players who certainly can be dropped.


travis
(Japan)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 6:38 AM
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Nope..the problem with Rojo is it's not Rojo, it's Roho.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 6:22 AM
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As for those who believe that we would have 8 defenders in the World Cup. I tell you, it is highly unlikely. I'll tell you why:
1. In 1990 or 1994 or something FIFA changed the squad from 22 players to 23 players with the hope of adding another extra FORWARD.

2. Check out our squad: 3 goalies and the starting defenders of Zaba, Garay, Fede, and Rojo. The back ups are: Hugo, Basanta, and Otamendi. It seems like we need another defender, but...

3. Check out the midfielders. We will surely have Masche, Gago, Banega, and Biglia. As I have always said before, Cambiasso rumour is for insurance policy in case any of them is injured. Anyway, so we have 4 DM and 4 AM: Di Maria, Maxi, Ricky, and Lamela. Why 4 AM if we just start one (Di Maria)? The reason is...

4. Check out the forwards. We will have Messi, Aguero, Higuain and the back ups of Palacio and Lavezzi. We need one more forward, don't we since we normally start 3 of them? So the reason why we'll have 4 AM is one of them is a hybrid AM/F which is Erik Lamela.

So the AM are actually Di Maria, Maxi, and Ricky. Ricky is an extra one, but I guess Sabella likes him more than Peruzzi or Lisandro Lopez.

5. Argentina had tendency to call 7 defenders only in the World Cup as what happened in 3 of the last 4 World Cup in 2010, 2002, 1998

6. Ole.com.ar one of the most reliable websites for Argentina seleccion predict 7 defenders.
http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial-2014/llenar-casilleros_0_1042695982.html

7. Gino Peruzzi and Lisandro Lopez are rarely called + almost never called. Di Maria, Maxi, Ricky, and Lamela always made the squad in Sabella's latest several matches.

8. Erik Lamela spot is safe to me because Sabella is not one of those coaches who like to drop players just because he rarely played for his club. For example: Fede (last year), Romero and Andujar (this year), Rojo (when Spartak Moscow), Gago (when injured often). Sabella did see something in Lamela, that's for sure.

Sabella normally drop players when he sees the player offers nothing to the team when given a chance (the best example is: Montillo)

BREAKING NEWS: As predicted, Orion, Gago, Banega, and Maxi are called for the Romania game.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 6:11 AM
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Rojo is good center back he is not left back and that is the problem


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 6:01 AM
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What I mean is even if you play like Messi, but as long as your name is Rojo, then you will be criticized here.


el principe
(United States)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 5:59 AM
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@Deb

The problem with Rojo for most of us is his name is Rojo. Back then, here most of us here had a problem with a player named "Angel Di Maria". Now it is Rojo turn.


haman
(Bahrain)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 5:11 AM
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Seems like the problem is having a problem, which means it might get solved!


Gaintan was brought to Benfica to replace Di Maria. The fact is, he's the most capable player to be Di Maria's sub. What a talented boy!
Not a new thing for players made in Boca!


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/28/2014 at 2:49 AM
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Can anyone here please tell me what is the problem with Rojo? I know he has some issue, but what is it?


Neel
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 11:37 PM
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Why didnt FF play for napoli last night?


baker
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 10:37 PM
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what is happening with Rojo..? i think orban/ansaldi has to get a call if the issue is serios


baker
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 10:34 PM
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gaitan superb Freekick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-sbIbbEkLY

maxi goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glKiIRZ0QvY


Julker9
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 9:08 PM
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Do you guys have any link to watch it ? :(


Juli2014
(Canada)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 8:20 PM
1
Of course I'm watching! Maxi just scored!!


Poto
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 6:56 PM
1
Anybody watching the copa libertadores today san lorenzo is winning right now with el pibe maravilla angel correa and newells old boys plays later.


Poto
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 6:50 PM
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Outlaw es un boludo in a friendly way.


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 5:12 PM
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If rojo cant play ansaldi will be called. Maybe insua but hes not playing to well.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 4:49 PM
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Orion, Gago, Maxi Rodriguez and Banega are summoned from local football for the friendly against Romania in Bucharest.


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 4:49 PM
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haha messi genius


wavingflag13
(Bangladesh)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 4:46 PM
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Biglia matured a lot. He would have been a hot subject by now had he moved to premier league. For palacio i think he would play a vital role for us against the big teams or physical african teams. Specially when we play 5-3-2

Those who are bashing higuain. may be he misses a lot in club level but he misses less for argentina.


guled
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 4:37 PM
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Rojo is having issues hope Romero gets also then our problem will be solved


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:51 PM
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What's up with Rojo? Heard that some court problems might keep him away from the world cup???


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:40 PM
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Eastern Europeans and British locals criticizing Argentina players is so laughable..


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:37 PM
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Kutz sorry, but outlaw is way too annoying, the guy never have any constructive comment, he's always about negativity up in here..Outlaw is a Brazilian fan or maybe a Spanish fan(lol)..World cup is coming up, and it will be hard to separate guys like outlaw and dammage7 from the actually trouble makers that will be posting here leading up to the world cup and during the world cup..


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:27 PM
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Here you go guys, dammage7 hailed from the UK, a mine of avarage footballers who know nothing besides running with a football, if Lazios draw was due to a DM, that player should be Cristian Ladesma not Lucas Biglia, he was tackling like his life depending on that.


Kutz
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:25 PM
1
Hey @ kid let outlaw have his say ... All I see is he is being over critical of players nothing wired in that ... Lets discuss football and our players not our fellow posters ...


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:16 PM
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@Dammage7: You first fight it out with Mr. Outlaw. You are saying Higuain is very good and Palacio is average, while Outlaw is saying Palacio is better than Higuain.

There is no coordination between you guys. :)


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:11 PM
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Dammage that was the goalkeepers fault more than anyone else.


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:11 PM
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I know, Kid. I have seen enough of him in the Uruguay match and it's foolish to doubt his talent and quality. Am just asking about today, how was he?


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:10 PM
1
Higuain will be much much fresher in the NT. In Napoli he is defending, creating chances, helping his colleagues and then scoring. Too much for a No. 9...



Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:10 PM
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Lazio lost had nothing to do with Biglia..


Deb
(India)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:08 PM
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Lazio lost and all is okay. But how was Biglia? Did anybody see the match?


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:05 PM
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dammage7 You're either a Troll or a wannabe Argentina fan..


dammage7
(United Kingdom)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:02 PM
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biglia? lazio just conceded 3 goals and went out.
Lets hope he is a average player in a sh!t Team.

Reality is argentina has alt of average players with a few world class.

messi, aguero, are WC
Zabaleta, Masherano, Di maria and higauin are very good
Fede, Rojo, Garay, gago/biglia/banega, palacio, sosa, all AVERAGE

we need the big guys to perfor, to their potential and some of avergae playeers to really step up


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 3:02 PM
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Messicrew I agree with you..Higuain is basically Napoli best creative player all season, at times Napoli midfield is way too unorthodox..


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:59 PM
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Biglia has to be one of the best tacklers in the football right now.


Sabella 2015 - 2018
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:59 PM
1
outlaw you're the weirdest Argentina fan I have seen or known..This was what Batistuta was talking about earlier, Higuain have the ability to drop deep and create plays, unlike Cavani..The third goal was a gem, Higauin sprint to the touchline with the ball then hold it up for his team mates to get up the pitch then release the pass..

Higuain may miss two chances in the first half but who doesn't..Higuain is top of the top, that's why the Napoli fans love him so much, when you see quality, you got to recognize it..

One minute outlaw is here cheering on Brazil team members, another time he will be here cheering on Spanish team players, and another time he will be cheering on Germany team members, this guy is the weirdest cat, if you ask me..


Dinucci
(Argentina)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:52 PM
1
Great game by higuain! A goal and participated in inlers goal awesome!


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:48 PM
0
uuuuu. Higuain what a loss. I prefer Palacio. He will be better if will be in form.


Messicrew
(United States)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:45 PM
2
this is for all the doubters out there..if you are watching the Napoli Game you can clearly see how Great is this HIguain..as the two reporters are saying (a true striker with both class and quality)
can you name a better forward doing what he is doing with little to no support most of the time? I doubt it


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:39 PM
0
a critical and clear mind fan.


Arglover
(South Africa)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:37 PM
2
I don't understand what type of fan Outlaw is of Argentina National team! !


outlaw
(Poland)
Posted on 2/27/2014 at 2:37 PM
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He must lost a few to scored one. As usually


outlaw
(Poland)