Football News Posted by Roy (Roy Nemer) Wednesday, October 17, 2012 Go To Comments Poll: How has SABELLA done so far as manager? How has SABELLA done so far as manager? - Great Job 12.3% (13) - Good Job 72.6% (77) - Decent 11.3% (12) - Bad Job 2.8% (3) - Terrible Job 0.9% (1) View all votes (106) Please Log In to vote. If you are not currently a member, Register Here. Comments You must be logged in to add a comment. Click Here to log in. 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Caffa (Australia) Posted on 10/19/2012 at 8:54 AM 0 Great job Sabella has done turned the moral of the team remember before him, we shouldn't complain and have faith, God I pray Argentina win the world cup,!,,:) Pial (Bangladesh) Posted on 10/19/2012 at 8:33 AM 0 Haha, messi is the 2nd best performer after romero :) el principe (United States) Posted on 10/19/2012 at 7:15 AM 1 Argentina average rating after half way (9 games) of the WCQ South American according to the rating by: The highest kudosed members and the administrators.The starters:Sergio ROMERO 7.27 (7 games, 2 clean sheets)Pablo ZABALETA 5.64 (7 games)Federico FERNANDEZ 6.36 (6 games)Ezequiel GARAY 6.18 (5 games)Marcos ROJO 4.82 (5 games)Javier MASCHERANO 6.04 (7 games)Fernando GAGO 6.51 (7 games, 0 goal, 2 assists)Angel DI MARIA 6.43 (7 games, 2 goals, 7 assists)Sergio AGUERO 7.09 (4 games, 3 goals, 0 assist)Gonzalo HIGUAIN 6.62 (9 games, 7 goals, 2 assists)Lionel MESSI 7.23 (9 games, 7 goals, 2 assists)Subs:Mariano ANDUJAR 6.24 (2 games)Clemente RODRIGUEZ 5.73 (3 games)Hugo CAMPAGNARO 5.82 (4 games)Nicolas BURDISSO 4.95 (4 games)Nicolas OTAMENDI 5.04 (2 games)Martin DEMICHELIS 2.95 (2 games)Rodrigo BRANA 5.65 (3 games)Pablo GUINAZU 5.42 (5 games)Jose SOSA 5.03 (6 games, 0 goal, 1 assist)Ever BANEGA 4.62 (2 games)Javier PASTORE 4.8 (2 games)Ricardo ALVAREZ 4.4 (1 game)Ezequiel LAVEZZI 6.35 (4 games, 1 goal, 2 assists)Top Ten Ratings:1. Sergio ROMERO 7.272. Lionel MESSI 7.233. Sergio AGUERO 7.094. Gonzalo Higuain 6.625. Fernando GAGO 6.516. Angel DI MARIA 6.437. Federico FERNANDEZ 6.368. Ezequiel LAVEZZI 6.359. Mariano ANDUJAR 6.2410. Ezequiel GARAY 6.18 los matadores (Argentina) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 11:00 PM 0 aka Mr. D(Peru)Great post aka re: Guinazu. I too have noticed this. Sometimes when we need help in midfield it's more about controlling the ball, slowing the game so that our defense can stop panicking. Another tackler can sometimes make it more hectic. I too would like to see an all around midfielder like Biglia in to try to accomplish this and kill the match. One thing I'd say though is that the sample size is too small. I'd like to see chances given per minute when the F4 are on and the chances per minute when we go very defensive with Guinazu, etc. Jack! (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 8:16 PM 0 Guinazu is a player that will not be easily replaced. He is the grit of the team, he puts in the dirty work that teams need. He will go and kick a player just to remind them not kick our players. Talent alone does not win you anything, having the best 11 is not always the answer, the right balance, the players having a understanding for each other is what is the most important factor of the game. A team is suppose to be like a well oiled machine, things need to go properly and smoothly, Just throwing a group of talented players does not work. Again. Balance, and only balance helps you win games. Kenneth (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 7:08 PM 0 I like Guinazu now, at first i was upset because he is 36..but you can see he's a player Argentina lacks and needs.Again why are people putting Terrible an Bad job? Im starting to sense some Uruguayans and Brazillians are voting now... Sherwan (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 6:48 PM 0 Thank you sabella and keep a good job. It is improving game after game and that is what we want to see as fan. There is alot still to be done. We are geting there we just need some time and we are going to be a strong team for sure. Vamos Argentina marindrianto (Indonesia) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 5:37 PM 0 @travis and @BarrileteCosmico thanks for the linkswhat I learn from soccer is a consistency. There is no consistency for players' performance. It's very human. Why we fight for SABELLA players selection. He proved his selection can give victories in a row (7 in row?). what we want more?I like boys under PEKERMAN. They didn't win WC but they gave lots victories and world knew it.So let's be supportive fans. Maybe there is something that we don't know but SABELLA knows better.It's just my opinion.WHen is the next game? next year? Whizzard28 (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 5:20 PM 0 @ghostdeiniI so agree with you. Some people are obsessed with sabella tactics. He needs to learn from Bielsa's mistakes. If he doesnt have a plan b..Argentina is out the door first round...most importantly a good core of bench players. aka Mr. D (Peru) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 3:56 PM 0 if you guys hate that other blog so much, then why taint this blog with it? Move on... Leandro (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 3:54 PM 2 @Mr.D -"Guiñazu. Three times he's come on when Argentina has had a clean sheet, two times Argentina have allowed a goal after his substitution. So what's the point of bringing on a defensive player that doesn't help the defense?"Correlation does not imply causation!Sabella is sticking him in usually with only 15 minutes left to play.. same with Sosa. Saying that these two 'doesn't help the defense?' is a bit harsh, c'mon man have you not noticed the crunching tackles, non-stop running and intimidating physicality Guinazu (and to a much lesser extent Sosa) bring into the midfield? I am not saying they are awesome and should start, but to say that they dont defend is way off base. How about I flip the table on your logic? Instead of saying that when they come in they let in goals.. think of it as, Sabella.. far more experienced than us and there on the pitch sees his players are tired (Masch and Gago are usually making the job of 4) and sees the opponent making a push, we are loosing the 50%/50% battle over every loose ball and he wants to minimize the damage. They go in and do just that.. they equalize. If we had a tired DiMaria doing very little in defence then the likelyness of us conceding MORE goals is greater. One thing is to be a total chicken-shit and do this at half time when you are up a goal. .but to do it with 15min left to kill time and break the game is wise in my playbook.Lets just find better subs for Sosa (Biglia, Jonas, Costa, Cambiasso) and life will be better for all. sulav787 (Canada) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 3:45 PM 0 @fanfrom78that blog is a donut shop that sells stale donuts with maggots in them... donuts full of maggots \m/@ghostdeini thank you Jack! (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 2:01 PM 0 Oh, you've seen Peruzzi, but yet don' like him? Ask anybody who follows the Primera how strong the kid is at his position. We are lucky to have such a talented full back that wears the Argentine colors. But tell me why you don't like him Redondo? fanfrom78 (United Kingdom) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:46 PM 2 apparently maxi LoPez of Argentina wc blog has a friend called sabella and his friend uses pes football video game to pick the team... 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The CB situation is much improved but I still worry about the FBs.Sabella also needs to play less conservatively. Under Sabella, when the Fantastic 4 is on the pitch Argentina has scored 9 and allowed 0. Barring injury, whenever Argentina's ahead Sabella's first substitution is Guiñazu. Three times he's come on when Argentina has had a clean sheet, two times Argentina have allowed a goal after his substitution. So what's the point of bringing on a defensive player that doesn't help the defense?Sabella should be putting on players that can hold up the ball, pass it around, kill time put in some basic tackles, let Mascherano drop deeper. Someone like Biglia is the player that should be coming on instead of Guiñazu when Argentina is up a goal. Or maybe bring in a RB and move Zabaleta up to midfield, not Sosa who's useless. rey (United Kingdom) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:10 PM 0 I am glad that Sabella has seen through the illusion of Pastore and has excluded him (hopefully for good) from the NT. And as much as I love Tevez under Sabella I do not see him returning, I will be sad for this but if it is the best for Argentina then so be it! ghostdeini (Albania) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 12:21 PM 3 lurk since 2006 on this site I registered and voted terrible job, just for Jack. stop bullying people, just cause you think sabella is God, there are people who think different, you must work for sabella, you are obsessed.dont make me quote you,i dint have time for this, you said we dont watch players, you are wrong brother you are the one who read goal.com, i watch ansaldi play, i search for player games and watch them and built my opinion based on my judgment not on papers, you are just a hipocrit!last time people were calling for matias rodriguez, sabella brought his name up, he called him a did not play, and people were mad he did not try him,you went on the rage and called people followers that have never seen him play and based their opinion on articles in the papers, after watching him against boca you said he was not good enough, now sabella called him again and you tried to defend his choice how hipocritical. you must justify every sabella decision, and try to force others liking him.stop this man, support him, but respect others opinion cause you are the follower here, you never watch ansaldi but have a opinion on him, dont read articles next time when rubin plays a send you a link and watch him play and build your own opinion not from papers.i forgot to say in my opinion i agree that matias rodriguez is not dani alves.just wanted to call you out on your hipocrisy.i personally think sabella is doing a decent job to good. haman (Bahrain) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 12:12 PM 0 He has built team chemistry between the players… thats the most important thing he's done so far. 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I'm of the opinion that he requires a "core" set of players that back him, and that the longer he knows the stars of the team the wider his core will be and no longer show such a preference for his former players. He makes gradual changes including less of them as time goes by. There's still work to be done, but I think Sabella knows where our weaknesses are and how to address them. Leandro (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 9:20 AM 0 Had we allowed a goal in the first 25min from Chile (deserved) or been scored on twice from PK handballs in the box (we got luuuuucky!)... I feel everyone here would be up in arms demanding change. Yes, we did great by getting all the points.. but we are fragile and as Sabella said, we play punch for punch.. If one day we cant score easily (Like vs Venezuela) then we will be severely tested. Imagine this:Aguero is hurt, DiMaria suspended because of two yellows (he gets a lot of them), Messi gets marked by 3 players and drops to midfield, Higuain has a hard time against a parked bus, Lavezzi makes and looses opportunities.. not very optimistic.. but its realistic, dark days happen. 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It was tough and scrappy at times, as well as fluid in spurts. Do you think the mid-field has been fixed? A good Argentina should be much better and it still remains to be seen whether Sabella will get us over the line and become world beaters. The style of play, strategy and roles in the team look better and better, but as most of you can already see and ask - will he ever start to get away from and incorporate players better than Sosa, Zab...? argentinasince1993 (Maldives) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 6:43 AM 0 i think he has done well.... the team has been improving ever since sabella took over and i say that is as good as it can get... no coach can make a great team in a few matches,,, with sabella i have seen a lot of improvements from every area of the pitch,, BUT i agree with some comments here that we need a stronger bench considering the array of talents we have ..... anyways overall i am very happy with how sabellas argentina has been improving and if we keep improving, well ... i think we have a realistic chance of winning the the next worldcup.ps: anyone knows where seba is?? i remember he said sabella is the best option even when the results were not good at the start.. but its has been exactly how seba said, sabella is a REAL coach..!!! marindrianto (Indonesia) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 6:42 AM 0 I am not Argentinian but I love Albiceleste as well as my national team.I really enjoy Argentina's game under SABELLA. I'll be happy to death if MESSI cs can lift uo WC trophy in brazil. I am still happy if they don't make it yet show decent games everytime. After nightmares, now I just want to enjoy the game. That's the essence of watching footbal, isn't. Enjoy it, especially when we win. GAB (Australia) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 6:39 AM 2 Well, well, well....What a difference a month makes. This time last month after the Paraguay game, I went nuts at Sabella because the team looked bad and I was really worried where we were heading.Guys like Leandro, Kenneth & Jack said 'Give Sabella time' and you boys were right. I have to say well done to Sabella for the turn around. I am extremely happy to have been proven wrong with this coach.There's definitely room for improvement though and the next 5 months until the next game against Venezuela will determine if Sabella makes the leap from Good to Great.Sabella's greatest achivements to date would have to be: 1) The turnaround in Messi; 2) Improving the Defence; 3) Having faith in the FAB 4Well done Sabella and thanks for proving me wrong Shafat.Redondo (Bangladesh) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 6:06 AM 1 As for peruzzi , i've seen him playing all right.I've seen our qualifying superb results thousands of times and in the main stage nothing but disappointment I don't care if sabella wins every matches in the qualifiers . i praise him for a constant starting line up but my expectation is much higher .You guys might be content and gloat about the winnings but sorry i can't .Why doesn't he call Facundo Sebastián Roncaglia from FIORENTINA , That guy is 10 times better than zabaleta at defending RB also a good center back . I'm seeing same shits since 1996 ; so pardon me for not believing in any of our coaches anymore . I can name every stupid coaches that fucked us up , 19 points wont convince me at all . Now call me hater or whatever you want ; in the end i want Argentina to win the world cup and i will KEEP WHINING UNTIL WE WIN THE CUUUUP Tashrif (Bangladesh) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 6:04 AM 0 Another thing I wanna mention sabella has given some confidence in our back four. Shafat.Redondo (Bangladesh) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 5:56 AM 2 I rated bad , my mouse icon went viral as i have virus in my pc . I tried to fix but i couldn't. So no need offend me Mr. Pastrana from u.s.a ; is there ? The number of matches i was present in the stadium/gallery to cheer for my beloved team , rest of you combined haven't seen that much games in television . Don't mock someone without knowing the actual cause . I would rate sabella decent as i'm skeptical about his whole squad selection and i want to see his plan B . Fantastic four theory won't work against teams like italy or germany . Our mid won't be able to handle their counter attack . Kenneth (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 5:55 AM 0 This is a joke...are people seriously voting decent and now bad job? Do these "Argentina fans" not enjoy the success of Argentina? Do they not enjoy the improvement? Speechless to be honest... Tashrif (Bangladesh) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 5:55 AM 0 In my opininon, Garay,fernandez & Rojo are revolutions for us. They had to work hard & show their class when the defense was really in awkward situation. Sabella has done his job terrifically well. What he needs to do with the team is to build up some strong reserve bench & work to look for some young talents like pastore, banega, lamella,ansaldi,tino costa,fredico fazio, ezequeil Munoz Fred (Hong Kong) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 5:20 AM 0 Balance is a main theme in Sebella's mind. One of the good pick of Sebella is Rojo who brings us balance. He is not slow, young and more importantly tall.The 6 men upfront are intact. But then we lack height extremely. Higuain is the only one above 180cm upfont, and he is not particularly strong in the air. If other fullbacks (Monzon, Zabaleta etc. who aren't tall) are used, we will have a huge problem in defending set pieces with only Garay and Fernandez. Rojo is tall, defensively decent and not slow. I predict his place is safer than Zabaleta unless a tall RB suddenly merges. elpipita (Iraq) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 5:10 AM 0 Initially I was very disappointed with the man, not due to the mixed initial qualifier results, as I expected the team to struggle initially with the constant revolving door of coaches, but Sabella's reluctance to appoint an enganche and his insistence on using the likes of demichiles and all the old guards in the heart of the defense when Batista demonstrated beyond the shadow of a doubt that its high time for change. However the positive results cannot be denied, nor can messi's performance for the NT. The fantastic 4 have enough class and skill between them to supply and make their own goals without the need for a central creative hub (although I still think that an enganche is required for the long term).He's working on the central defense but the fullbacks and the bench also need serious work. All in all, a very SOLID job for Alejandro. Jack! (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 4:33 AM 0 LOL, people voting Bad... I recall Shaft Redondo saying he does not like Peruzzi at all when he has never seen him play, lol. fotobirajesh (India) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 4:10 AM 0 Sabella definitely knows better than us. Inspite of keeping many fans like me annoyed by team selection, he seems to be building a team from the base. The use of Garay and Fernandez is the best example. Here are two young guys, who can only improve and it would not be a surprise, if by WC14, Argentina will have may be one of the best CB pairs. Looking back, most of his decisions make sense. I just expect he will not disappoint us like Pekerman did with that horrible substitution in a pivotal moment, in 2006. cleanball (Indonesia) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 3:23 AM 1 For me, Sabella best achievement is sucess in creating a twin tower with Garay and Fernandez - firm at the back ; rely and faith in the attack with F4; brings back the confidence level and joy of playing at N/T for Messi; establishing balance in m/f with good pair between Gago and Mashcerano; a good GK with Romero and winger operation from Zabaleta and Rojo. Useful subs at Lavezzi,Guinazu and Barcos as stabilizer.The important question is what next ? We are all curious to looks for a new blood or our favorite players to be in the list; maybe Roy can make a poll for the best wanted and deserve players to be call by Sabella.Although it's not our territory and domain but it will be worthy discussion. Thanks Krshna (India) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 3:18 AM 0 @Allyshaw, I like your team, except one man, I would put ansaldi in place of zabaleta, and Rojo as option for sanchez mino..... Have Backup of Biglia/Yacob for Masche... soumya (India) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 2:54 AM 0 One thing i must clear that i am no one to describe a coach like sabella...whether he is bad or good....i dont know any thing about coaching ...i dont know abot double pivot,bridge press ,Y-passing ...i dont know any tactics ...so it is very difficut to vote any NT coach...i have given my vote (good)basis of latest match statistics and good winning strike.....and i think every one have their views....i respect every one who has given :great: and as well as who has given :bad: .... PAimar (Singapore) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 2:45 AM 0 I know one man's meat is another man's poison. I also fully respect each individual's thought and standard they expect of an Argentina manager. For me, sitting on top of the SA WC Qualifying table at 1/2 time, strong and solid performances, wins against Brazil, Germany and Uruguay, Messi playing like his usual Barca-self - all these are already positives and deserving of a good thumbs up. Perhaps it's just me bouncing back from the not too distant disappointing pre-Sabella reign? I take heart from the fact that 70% of the fans here think that he has done a good job. Hopefully, Sabella visits Mundo Albiceleste, sees our endorsement, and does even better. To get a Great Job grading from me, he'd have to improve the subs bench and I'll see whether he can still manage all the stars together, how to find a system that fits them and still get the results. But like someone else said in another post, sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it - I'd rather Argentina winning with the current team than having a subs bench packed to the brim with stars but losing. We should not lose sight of our end goal - for Argentina to win the WC in 2014.My 2 cents. Dante Pastrana (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 2:06 AM 0 I was also skeptical but very positive about having a real coach for a change. I've always voted from decent to good to great ! Sabella is a MF boss! He does things at his own time and in his own way. Call him what you want but the sloth is getting nothing but great results and praise from trainers and media in the football world. We sit atop and been working steadily forward to get here. @allyshaw, you said it best here especially about Clemente and Brana. Guinazu is a must have player. He's a fricking thug and I love him so much for his physical presence. While watching the game even the announcers in Spanish were saying how he's a scary and intimidating individual off and on the pitch lmao. Sosa is young and could be our potential key player as he's under the radar and our opponents don't really consider him as a threat. He's capable of scoring goals and all we need is one from him in a key fixture. Overall I'm very happy and looking forward to more growth and lots more wins. Dante Pastrana (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:56 AM 1 SharaFATboy rated Sabella bad! I'd like to rate Sharafi with: hater and/or Manure brain lol with all due respect :/ soumya (India) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:54 AM 1 20 points in 9 games and winning in 3 friendlies is a good job for me....he have built a strong team ...chemistry and understanding between the players also looking very good ...team is consistently performing...with 20 points team is secure...now should try new players ...spacially in fullbacks and wings /attacking mid field... but core team should be same.... msi2 (France) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:53 AM 0 The defense is not better in any way... el principe (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:46 AM 0 Sabella said something good in his latest interview:1. He said that he knows the fantastic four makes the team imbalanced, but then he said that that does not mean that any of them must be removed, they just need to be corrected.2. He said that it is possible to use that fantastic four against the world best team depending on their form. But it is also necessary to have at least 2 strategies.3. He demands the fantastic four to work harder to "retrieve" the ball.4. He said the defense is better now.http://www.ole.com.ar/seleccion/dificil-tocarlo_0_793720946.html cleanball (Indonesia) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:20 AM 0 It has bee a long time we are enjoying the euphoria of winning and paying great attention to Albiceleste. The enthusiasm and support from the fans have return and the dreams are high.Sabella's pragmatic approach has proved and works in the right track. Messi has been optimal so were the others, The chemistry and self confidence of the team are great ( of course winning build confidence and joyfulness ), team work and playing style is excellent, but, still have plenty room to grow and creativity are much needed with the existence and upcoming new players. The friendly games against Brazil ( supercopa with domestic player)and Saudi's will help to maintain this high self confidence although we also in need to do sparring with high level teams. Don't let the hope and dreams of Albiceleste fans fade away again ....Forza Argentina Thang (Vietnam) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:18 AM 0 Haha, im the one who vote decent! It's not because i hate Sabella, i voted good lastime FYI. It's just i think we need to keep those impressive performance for a long, long...longer time! el principe (United States) Posted on 10/18/2012 at 1:01 AM 0 The key word that Sabella has done for us is: balance.He is not known for being an offensive minded coach in his coaching career, but he sees the potential of our team. A team blessed with 4 world class attackers. He listens to the his captain's advice to play all of them. He makes an agreement with them that if he is to play all four of them, they need to play defense. The result is good.For me the second half of the match against Chile (before Higuain was substituted) was the masterpiece of Sabella. In the first half, the fantastic four was lazy to help the D. In the second half (watch the tape again), Messi was helping defending in his own penalty box. It was awesome to see that. As long as the fantastic four learns to play D, we'd be scarry. I know in Saudi Arabia game a month from now, we'll see some new faces. Because the only thing that needs to be fixed from Sabella's squad is his back up. What we have is: we have a very offensive minded starting 11 and very defensive minded back ups. I feel that Sabella could see the huge gap of quality between his starters and his back ups. travis (Japan) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 11:57 PM 0 This first 11 (vs Uruguay) for me is perfect Argentina World Cup squad to =Brazil 2014. I think it's like newborn child. Rojo must back again soon.The team now have to keep play and move like that to be much much better for glory in WC2014. Messi is happy with his team mates, he seem comfortable around them. I think he has problem with the Copa squad. I don't like Copa squad; burdisso, milito, heinze, cambiasso, tevez. if Sabella call this players again, he suck.I don't like much Sosa, Brana, Desabato, all this Estudiantes. But I'm sure Sabella has reason to play them, but for what, nobody know. Maybe to balance his whatever system. Bad ass like Guinazu should be here, I'd imagine he would kick Rooney in the ass when we met England. Barcos is big too, I saw him push uruguay guy who confront Messi, if not in the match, he will punch that guy in the teeth for fun. But of course, we play football, not to wrestle.Ok guys, Argentina for life, that's for sure. Jack! (United States) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 11:08 PM 0 Where'd you get that theory Echo? 94 to Colombia(The stages were different then) and 02 to us? 06 we finished first, made it out of the group, 10 Brasil finished first, made it out of their group. 98, I believe it was us, made it out of the group. What's the beef primo? Echo 7 (United States) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 11:03 PM 0 The one thing that makes me uneasy is the fact the statistic's state the first to qualify in Sud America ends up not making past the first round....hopefully they will be wrong...go argentina vamos adelante.. messi (Lebanon) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:46 PM 0 i believe after the next round people would go for great , i never missed an argentina matches even friendlies since 2006 ,and i can say this level is what i dreamt off .The guy proved whats he is made of . Kenneth (United States) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:41 PM 0 @ Ally Shaw! Yes i absolutely loved it when Guinazu came in right away and knocked that chilean player on his ass at the corner! Gave me a great chuckle.. highlight of the 2nd half for me. Kenneth (United States) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:39 PM 0 @Jack! Surely the "decent job" must've been a misclick! If not I'm sure how i feel about an "Argentina fan" putting decent when we've had success lately. Jack! (United States) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:34 PM 1 I see somebody voted a decent... Tsk tsk tsk... What more does he have to do? Oh I know, call up players that have been mentioned on Goal.Com. :-0 Johnny (Thailand) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:29 PM 1 @AllyShaw-yes sir ! That immediate knock down response from Guinazu did not go unnoticed ! messi (Lebanon) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:18 PM 0 Great job, form the way argentina has been before came and how they are now.Cant argue with players selections am sure hes aware of all that, Messi not missing except in brutal peru match .Fantastic four always an scoreboard and assist boards. GREAT JOB msi2 (France) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:17 PM 0 The game against Uruguay was good, the one against Chile less... much less. I'm still on the wait & see attitude even though we're on the top of the table in these qualifyers. AllyShaw (United Kingdom) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 10:08 PM 4 ive been skeptical on sabella since his initial player selections, but he is clearly a man who is thoughtful and takes time to address issues. For me the back line is a massive improvement and they are very young - Garay and Fernandez will only get better with age and consistently playing together. Zabaleta is a steady option on the right hes not world class but he works hard, he'd be my choice. Rojo was impressive against uruguay, but id like to see Sanchez-mino or ansaldi there to add width. some people say sanchez-mino is wasted at left back, but hes not going to replace any of the midfielders anytime soon. The diamond in midfield is fantastic. Masch does the dirty work, dropping between CBs when needed. Gago does the right shuttler role very well (he was MOTM for me against Chile, although id rather banega there..). Di maria is VERY under rated IMO one of the top 5 wingers in the world, he can hit a long ball as well as anyone ive seen, and he does it consistantly for real and argentina. Messi playing as Trequartista/Striker is getting the best out of him, and aguero and higuain would walk into any team any where in the world.I cant remember off the top of my head but whilst sabellas in charge Arg have won about 90% of their matches. Sabella will slowly phase out the branas and the Clementes, and will bring in more capable subs (pastore, lamella, banega etc). I think guinazu and sosa are here to stay, theyre use is to see out games when the forwards are tired, they work hard and put in a shift all over the pitch but are very technically limited. i actually like guinazu though, when he came on against chile, straight away someone tackled aguero and he ran through the back of the player and knocked him down, sending a message out - he can mix it when things get rough.... sorry about the long post.--------Romero-------------Zab--Garay---Fern----Sanchez-mino (ansaldi)--------Masch------------------Gago(Banega)-------------------------------Di Maria--------------Messi------------------------Aguero-----------------Higuain---------------- Champion-2014 (Argentina) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 8:55 PM 1 It's very near to "Excellent Job"- but it's "Good Job" to me at this moment.So far why- credits go for him...1) Some talented young solders in defense.2) Ensuring good balance among the team- on the field.3) Good tactics and strategy forward to getting results.4) Dressing room.. Obviously Sabella has influenced on the climate of the dressing room and all players are happy and confident.5) And Messi is playing like 'Messi' under him.But some issues still exist like the lack of bench strenth. I think Sabella will solve all the issues and do the "Excellent Job" very soon for our national team. pablo.d (New Zealand) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 8:53 PM 0 im with you johnny and i too do have some concerns but being number one in the qualfs i cannot argue with being top. Jack! (United States) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 8:35 PM 0 Maybe the haters will go from Terrible Job to bad job, and from bad job to decent, lol. I am going to think it over a little bit before I decide. Last time I said good, and Sabella needed time. But since then, it's been quite good. So I will think a little bit more if I should say great. Notoraj (Finland) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 8:33 PM 0 sitting top of the list .. good job i guess Johnny (Thailand) Posted on 10/17/2012 at 8:25 PM 0 Ratcheted up to "Good" for me. Despite having a few misgivings, you sure can't argue with continued success.