Sub-20: Argentina vs Venezuela

Today Argentina will play their last match of the group phase in the Copa Sudamericano Sub-20 vs Venezuela.  Their mission is to make it to the hexagonal phase.  The top three teams in both Group A and Group B will go on to the hexagonal stage. In Group A, they are: Ecuador, Colombia, and Brazil.  We will know who the top three teams in Group B will be after tonight’s matches.  In the hexagonal phase all 6 teams will play against each other once and the best 4 teams qualify for the FIFA Under-20 World Cup which is being played in S. Korea this year from May 20 – 11 June.

Possible formation:

Argentina: Ramiro Macagno; Nahuel Molina, Cristian Romero, Juan Foyth, Milton Valenzuela; Santiago Ascacibar, Tomás Belmonte; Tomás Conechny, Brian Mansilla; Marcelo Torres y Lautaro Martínez. Coach: Claudio Úbeda

Stadium: Olímpico (Ibarra).
Time: 21.15 (Time in Argentina).
TV: TyC Sports.

COPA SUDAMERICANO STANDINGS:

Group A PJ PG PE PP GF GC DG PTS
1. Ecuador 4 2 1 1 7 6 1 7
2. Colombia 4 2 1 1 6 5 1 7
3. Brazil 4 2 1 1 4 3 1 7
4. Paraguay 4 1 1 2 6 7 -1 4
5. Chile 4 0 2 2 2 4 -2 2

 

Group B PJ PG PE PP GF GC DG PTS
1. Argentina 3 1 2 0 9 5 4 5
2. Uruguay 3 1 2 0 5 3 2 5
3. Bolivia 3 1 1 1 3 5 -2 4
4. Venezuela 3 0 3 0 1 1 0 3
5. Perú 4 0 2 2 2 6 -4 2

 

VAMOS ARGENTINA!!

57 Comments

  1. Profile photo of saantsaant

    Pretty awful weekend for Argentines in Europe this weekend.
    Simeone with another couple of goals taking his tally to 10.
    Higuain is top scorer now with his 15th.
    Ocampos has moved on another loan. Milan this time. Jinxed club for Argentines. Bad move.

  2. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Mamoun, vimaldass, Enganche… – good to see I’m not alone anymore with following Primera.

  3. Profile photo of mamoun elpipitamamoun elpipita

    yo Gonzalo I’d like to pick your brain alittle bit, I’m almost addicted to the primera now! To the point that I’m not watching all that much european football, which is something that I never thought would ever happen.

    Few observations from the primera:

    1. Battala is a very interesting goal keeping prospect. He’s not the best GK in the primera but at only 20 he’s already a starter for River and he’s doing a solid job.

    2. Gino peruzzi and getting better and better while Jose Gomez is clearly not a one season wonder. Thinks are looking good for Argentina for the RB position (finally!)

    3. Tagliafico is a must for the NT, he was a beast in defending but now he’s also damn good at going forward so for god’s sake Bauza, take a look at the kid atleast.

    4. Another defender from Independiante whose been impressing me is J.Figal, but with Otamendi, Garay, Musacchio, Mori and now even Fazio Argentina isn’t exactly in need for CBs but still Figal is a possible prospect to look out for.

    5. Nacho Fernandez And Acuna continue to impress but Pittón (CDM), Formica (CAM) and Pavon (RAM) are the latest batch of midfielders that have been impressing me.
    While not exactly a youngster (at 28) Seba Blanco is flying high and is worth a mention.

    6. Druissi continues his amazing run even though I wasn’t impressed with him in the U20s but his goal scoring form is hard to ignore.
    Blandi is another forward whose been impressing but Argentina never lacked those (knock on wood).

    So Gonzalo what do you think? Any other players I should be looking out for?

    1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

      “I’m almost addicted to the primera now! To the point that I’m not watching all that much european football, which is something that I never thought would ever happen”

      So, you understand now how it works!:)

      Of course I forgot in my list about best goalscorer of Primera as far – Driussi. Lapsus

    2. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

      Barboza, Figal, Cristian Romero or Martinez Quarta are guarantee for us that we have next generation of more than solid center backs. And all they are really modern CBs.

      When we are talking about players over 23 I may to name still the same: Nacho, Benedetto, Tagliafico, Peruzzi…

      Mamoun, when Primera will back please to follow duo of Banfield CMs – Remedi, Cecchini. Alexis Castro as well.

      1. Profile photo of mamoun elpipitamamoun elpipita

        Reedi and Cecchini eh, ok Gonzalo I’ll keep an eye out for them. BTW why do you want me to keep an eye out for them?

        1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

          As always it’s hard to express in my english. I just think worth to watch. Cecchini as defensive midfielder has 3 goals in this season (one in Torneo de Verano).

    3. Profile photo of Juli2014Juli2014 (Post author)

      Good stuff Mamoun! 🙂

  4. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Links?

    1. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

      usually rojadirecta has some

  5. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    SO this night Argentina against Uruguay once again

  6. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Csabalala, instead Talent Hunter I have my own new list for 2017;)

    1. Santiago Ascacibar (Estudiantes)
    2. Alexander Barboza (Defensa)
    3. Ezequiel Barco (independiente)
    4. Alexis Castro (Tigre)
    5. Cristian Romero (Belgrano)
    6. Jose Luis Gomez (Lanus)
    7. Augusto Batalla (River)
    8. Eric Remedi (Banfield)
    9. Emanuel Cecchini (Banfield)
    11. Maxi Lovera (Rosario Central)
    12. Ian Escobar (Talleres)
    13. Bautista Merlini (San Lorenzo)
    14. Diego Sosa (Tigre)
    15. Jonathan Menendez (Talleres)
    16. Jorge Figal (Independiente)
    17. Gonzalo Martinez (River)
    18. Leonel Rivas (Rosario Central)
    19. Cristian Pavon (Boca)
    20. Gaspar Iniguez (Tigre)

    1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

      While we are talking still a lot about central midfielders I must to point out duo of CMs from Banfield. Remedi (’95) and Cecchini (’96). Since coach of Banfield has started regularly with the two players in midfield the team suddenly turn out into winning team (6 wins in a row in Primera). And none of them is only defensive midfielder.

  7. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Adrian Cubas made his debut in Serie A.

  8. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Anyone have watched Boca – River last night?

    1. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

      No, but without Tevez Boca will hardly the same

      1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

        Not necessarily. They have just accomodate to changes. With Benedetto, Pavon and Centurion they will not worse.

        Actually they had more chances than River but River more luck.

        1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

          Olivera should be on SUdamericano and not to play against Boca. Valenzuela on LB is weak link.

  9. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

    Let me tell you guys something. Remember leo suarez? Argentina’s ex under 20 player. He will be our nxt BIG thing. Still only 20 and was the best player in villareal’s reserve team that if im not mistaken won the reserve championship. He has fantastic overall skills.
    Dominantly plays on the right wing but cuts inside very quickly with plenty of footballing intelligence to be in awe of. He is already featuring a lot in the senior team coming in and out as a sub. Plenty to be spoken about this talent 🙂

    1. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

      Here’s a sneak preview of his overall gameplay :

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limEfOqjZiM

      1. Profile photo of saantsaant

        I really hope he turns out good. Just to remind u guys about another guy who was awesome at this age playing for Valencia reserves. Fede Cartabia anyone? I am not too sure about these tiny toons. We’ve have many a tiny toons before who were great at this age. Defederico, Buononotte etc.

        1. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

          +Patito Rodriguez, Brian Ferreira (transferred to Malaysia)

    2. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

      vimaldass

      I’ve written about him few times here that he is our biggest talent in Europe IMO. Over Dybala or Correa. He is just introducing slowly to A team.
      Complete footbaler. Great dribbler, playmaker, winger, freekicker. And great vision. Moreover engaged in defence. Only that he is very short.

      1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

        Physical conditions like Ezequiel Barco.

        1. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

          But Barco has much better acceleration, speed and maybe close control, and 3 years younger too.

          1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

            Acceleration, speed a bit better but not ball control. On the other hand Suarez has better vision.

      2. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala
        1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

          It’s good but not enough up-to-date.

          Ivan Leszczuk is nowhere now. On the other hand I don’t see new players like Lovera or Rivas for example.

          1. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

            Exactly gonzalo i was just about to say that !
            Uncanny or even so much resemblance with Barco’s gameplay and physical attributes. What i love about these two players are their close control and their vision at this tender age.
            In the video above, he in fact has so much resemblance with Messi in his younger days when he used to own the right wing himself. Suarez is already toying wing backs with his trickery and direct play. Hope he gets his chance to start before this season completes.

            i think it is unfair to make comparisons with dybala since their positions are way too different but he’ll definitely supersede correa as our best young talent very very soon. lets keep our fingers crossed for this huge talent!

  10. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Between Caruzzo and Maidana, who is a better defender? Cause one of these two is apparently Funes Mori’s replacement vs Chile according to Bauza.

    http://www.ole.com.ar/seleccion/bauza-seleccion_0_1732026921.html

    1. Profile photo of NoHateOnlyLove

      So who would leave Roma and go play for a team like Everton or Watford?

      1. Profile photo of sandysandy

        True. But the report says that Roma doesnt want him anymore and that Juventus is also interested in him.

  11. Profile photo of Julker9Julker9

    “Argentina don’t cry for Icardi”

    http://www.football-italia.net/97524/argentina-dont-cry-icardi

    Nice read.

    1. Profile photo of jerry dieugevillejerry dieugeville

      Every time I watch inter play I asked myself the same question
      How’s Icardi manage to be the top scorer in Italy with a team that barely pass him the football

  12. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

    Gonzalo do you know how good of a player walter montoya is? Seems like a very interesting prospect with great technique and grit. Chased by river and boca but sevilla has just officially signed him.

    1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

      Well, I must to say somehow for me he was usually in Cervi and Lo Celso shadow but as you said he has more grit and tenacity so who know which of them will go far. He was one of the 3 most noticeable Rosario Central young player of late no doubt.
      I must to say also that it’s one of the transfer I didn’t expect. I thought River or Boca are destination for him. He was near Olimpic Games after all.

      Now Central have Maxi Lovera and Leonel Rivas.

      1. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

        Seems like a huge prospect then or else two huge clubs and even sevilla wouldn’t bother chasing him. It’s imperative now for us to break the frustrating “mascherano-biglia” hegemony at the centre. If you ask me, even mascherano seems like an replaceable person by the day at the centre.

  13. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

    Also it’s obvious here that without our midfield engine ( Ascacibar ), we lack so much of our stability and struggle to initiate an attack from our defence

  14. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Conechny such immature player. Mansilla iritating. Belmonte, Moyano, Valenzuela – weak.

    1. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

      Dont you think it’s because they have already qualified due to bolivia’s loss gonzalo? i believe they removed their foot from the gas from the beginning

      1. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

        Anyway we will be facing a strong colombia side on the 2nd of February. good luck to us. Atleast we rested a few of them in the process

      2. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

        It’s one of reasons no doubt. They knew that and they wanted to save energy on this mountain stadium. And yes, lack of Ascacibar was evident. This is what you’ve said. Without him we are hardly in ball possesion because of lack tackling/interceptions.

        1. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

          Yup and probably even the leadership quality that he possesses. I believe no one can replace him in the middle currently. Hopefully he climbs up the ladder quickly and gets promoted the senior side

    2. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

      Hmmm Conechny always seemed to me very mature if something, and don’t understand why Barco not play, so host Ecuador, Brazil, Columbia, Uruguay and anti-footballing Venezuela, 2+1 qualify, we start with Uruguay tomorrow

  15. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Nothing to watch. The worst Argentina game in tournament. Romero with 2 yellow once again.

  16. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Romero with another red card, reckless.

  17. Profile photo of vimaldassvimaldass

    WTF. Cristian romero got a red card yet again ! such a good defender with terrible composure

  18. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

    Walter Montoya in Sevilla

  19. Profile photo of Dfox1942Dfox1942

    ARGENTINA leading its group while Brazil is not and Chile is last>>>>>Excellent.

  20. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Barco is not starting again.

    1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

      Ascacibar too

  21. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

    Gonzalo, sorry bro every time i try to share a link, the page block my message (awaiting moderation), but full match:

    forum.rojadirecta.es/showthread.php?295078-FUTBOL-U20-CONMEBOL-Championship-Argentina-vs-Bolivia-23-01-2017

    The downloding time without premium cca. one night, but very good quality stuff…maybe here will be uploaded every Argentina matches…

    1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

      ok, thank you very much. I’ll try to download the video.

  22. Profile photo of NoHateOnlyLove

    @ Dollon:You always come up with a flavor of the week lineup. What happen to Roncaglia? You had him in your last flavor of the week lineup prior to this one. Lanzini, Paredes, Perotti, Vazquez, and Rulli never played together for the Argentina NT yet you’re here assuming this team can some how even come remotely close to beating an experience Chilean team in an important WCQ game? This is not FIFA PS4 game play! 😉 Come on guys, Maradona played over 100 players back in the 2010 qualifiers and he barely manage to qualify for the World Cup. If Buaza can organize some friendlies in England ( before the March WCQ)being that majority of the squad base in Europe then I have no problem with him testing new players. We see what happen with Maradona team in La Paz, so let’s risk bringing a bunch of untested and inexperience new players so that they can get humiliated by Bolivia at altitude.

  23. Profile photo of dollon biswasdollon biswas

    Bazua should go against chilli……

    ///////////////////////// RULLI \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
    Mascarano——–Otamendi———-Rojo
    Perez-Vasquaz-Peredes-parotti-Lanzini

    ⚽️⚽️⚽️MESSI 🏐🏐🏐Heguin ⚽️🏐🏀

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