Hey everyone,

Here is the official lineup for tonight’s match VS. Colombia.  Hopefully, our boys pull off a win tonight and BAUZA surprises us a little.  Any predictions out there? Who will be the man of the match? PRATTO? MESSI? DI MARIA?  Hopefully it’s a match that brings back pride to our national team.





  1. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

    Romero: Should warm benches everywhere. Fine bench keeper, just don’t play him.
    Mercado: Not a RB
    Otamendi: Clumsy, but should be a part of our defense
    Funes Mori: Bad. Do we seriously lack a proper CB that we need to play a player like Funes Mori?
    Mas: Again, not national team material.
    Mascherano: He was awful in what he does best, defending. Passing was poor and slow. Tackling were off and wasn’t intercepting anything.
    Biglia: same as Mascherano. I don’t know what he does in the team. does he defend? why do we need so many defender? Is it 1960? Are we playing 6-3-1? He should be replaced by someone like Enzo or Augusto.
    Banega: Horrible. Trying to dribble out of everywhere. He should remember that he isn’t a winger. should be replaced by a proper midfielder.
    Di Maria: Played better than the last 3/4 matches, but still useless. i don’t remember him completing one single good pass. Always chose the wrong option, tried to dribble and failed. Anybody is fine in his place at the moment!
    Pratto: Very hard working. Made good runs, hassled defenders…great game.

    Bauza: He should F@#K Off. he has no business managing The Argentina National Football Team.

    1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

      Istiaqu: a good and accurate write up from you and i wish it could be A: in all of tomorrows newspapers in Argentina and

      B: email it to bozo and the AFA as they seem blind to what is actually going on in the field of play.

      n.b you might have to do a copy in Braille for the above 2 being bozo and the AFA

      1. Profile photo of visvis

        Ha ha ha

  2. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Romero – inadequate, mediocre, was lucky not to concede, terrible positioning.
    Mercado – better than Zabaleta at this point, good defensively but not a fullback
    Mascherano- did his job well, key interceptions and not much fuss, stuck to his defensive duties and did not venture forward
    Biglia- almost anonymous, one or two good interceptions but that’s about it
    Mas – given a hard time by Cuadrado, he is not a world class left-back (time to call up Tagliafico)
    Banega- terrible, no contribution
    Di Maria – had an OK game, helped out in defence, scored a goal and was generally better than he has been for us recently
    Messi – out of this world, maestro, genius, etc, etc
    Pratto – excellent, did what he had to do, hard working guy, needs to start from now on until Icardi is called up (if ever)
    Enzo – a few good moments going forward, needs to start over Biglia IMO

  3. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    Mas is not enough. Banega, Romero and Biglia should be out from starting x1.

    Young players…Rulli,Paredes,Dybala and Icardi(Pratto) should be starting for Argentina in next match.

    Its good that Chile won..that will keep pressure on our team and coach. So we can expect changes and improvement.

    I dont want Uruguay going to a safe spot.

    1. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

      i agree… Mas is not good enough he is below average player.. but i doubt Bauza will drop him after just 3 games … mercado also doesn’t look good too defensive.. too defensive.. too many defensive minded player is killing our midfield!!

  4. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

    what can i say? as to laugh or cry.

    yes we won and for that im screaming in delight wahoooooo but to win 3-0 means bozo will not be fired and if that is not enough to make me mad di maria scores and guess what he will also be retained.

    a bitter sweet day i guess.

    1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      It’s one of those times where we are going to suffer for a few years (circa 1994 – albeit a very talented team, or 2010 – Team Diego).

      In 1994- we had to go through the playoffs against Australia to sneak into the world cup. It was just a torturous affair.

      In 2010 – Well – we had to wait till the last game, a win against Uruguay with Diego sliding down the pitch in celebration, defying the laws of physics , to qualify.

      I just cannot stand the thought of having to go through that level of stress. Let’s hope we qualify. I just don’t see the manager being changed. I just hope he comes to his senses, gets the right players into the squad at least. Is that too much to ask for?

      1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

        mr v: so true and you and me both on the stress part.

  5. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Final 3-0 Argentina. Precious 3 points.

    Standings as of today:
    1. Brazil
    2. Uruguay
    3. Chile – 20
    4. Argentina – 19
    5. Columbia – 18
    6. Paraguay – 15

    *Note : Peru vs Brazil yet to be played.

    Good news :
    1. We are in 4th baby
    2. Messi . Messi. and Messi. Scored a tremendous goal and put the other 2 on a platter for his teammates.
    3. Pratto was very ,very effective. Deserved his goal, and deserves a spot in the squad.

    Bad news:
    1. Midfield – shambolic. Banega and Biglia were brutal to watch.
    2. Defense : Mori and Mas absolutely unconvincing

    The game against Chile in the next round has monumental consequences. More thoughts later.

    1. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

      Equador is on 20 points too. we are 5th.

      1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

        Thanks Istiaque, corrected it! Too sleepy 🙂

    2. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      Damn! My bad!

      Ecauador is 3rd now, Chile 4th, and Arg 5th. Too sleepy having gotten up early! Thanks to Richard for his post pointing the right standings.

      3. Ecuador 20
      4. Chile 20
      5. Arg – 19
      6. Columbia -18

      Baby steps , baby steps 🙁

  6. Profile photo of RichardRichard

    Back in 5th position. We have some tough games coming up with Chile at home, altitude games in LaPaz and Quito and a visit to Montevideo.
    Messi did it all tonight. Without him we do not belong at the WC.
    Hopefully this win does not prevent some major overhaul, but I am afraid we’re gonna see the same squad in March to face Chile.

    1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      I’m sure we’ll end up seeing more of the same. Guys like Romero need not even go back to his club and warm the bench. He might as well backpack around S.America till the next round of qualifiers in March .

  7. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

    Just look at bauza’s face. Looks like a man who did it all by himself. What a load. of shit he is.

    He knows nothing about football. Just milking one guy. Just imagine what our chances without messi. we created zero opening. no.movement, no incisive passing. Just a bunch of losers running around like headless chickens.

  8. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    We didnt concede still only because Colobia’s bad luck. Romero not even near in any of those dangers.

  9. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    If average pratta can look so good playing along side messi then icardi will kick bith clowns out of the team.. he must be very hungry!!!

  10. Profile photo of ClacKamasClacKamas

    chile wining 3-1 fak

  11. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Remove messi and the midfield still looks dead.. enzo for banega is a must.. garay should be back and replace funes mori for good…

  12. Profile photo of ClacKamasClacKamas

    Thanks god you gave us Messi…u gave Messi to this boring world!!

  13. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    It all started with Enzo & Messi combo

  14. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Di maria is not getting any credit for that tap in. He was still the worst player for us today!!!! After banega

    1. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

      No, Enzo for Biglia. someone else for Banega! We don’t need 2 players like mascherano in this team. Nothing happens in midfield…nothing!

    2. Profile photo of AslamAslam

      No…Di maria really helped the defense. But he was almost same when going forward. Worst was Banega and Romero. Mas is not the answer for Rojo.

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    No player can miss that..Dimaria too..!

    Actually di maria really helped the defense today.

  16. Profile photo of godboy_messigodboy_messi

    It still looked like di Maria would miss

  17. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

    lol di maria nearly skied that!

  18. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Messi is our all…

  19. Profile photo of david carvajaldavid carvajal

    I honestly thought dimaria missed that

    1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      He really tried hard to miss it , but even he can only do so much from the 6 yard box. 🙂

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    Where will we be without Messi? Di Maria scores, but every bit of that goal belong to Messi without that last tap in. What a run. What a player.

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  22. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Is bauza making a statement here? No aguero at all!!! Hahaha.. right on!!!

  23. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Higuain comes on for Pratto, who walks out to a standing ovation.

    One thing that cannot be denied, Pratto has heart.

    1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

      i agree and ive said before that pratto puts in more effort then the other 2 and messi need Mobil players not static ones like hig.
      pratto is a good plan b to bring on.

  24. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Pratto absolutely working his socks off here. Running the defenders ragged, earning free kicks .

    Biglia with a very, very dangerous tackle in the box against Rodriguez. It could easily have been given a penalty in a different game. Absolutely TERRIBLE stuff from biglia.

  25. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    What Biglia is doing ?

  26. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Di Maria hits the post there. A better option would have been to cross it for Pratto for a simple tap-in 🙁

    1. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

      Who cares His dad is coaching the team… look at the resemblance of their faces!!

  27. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

    Chile just scored.

  28. Profile photo of david carvajaldavid carvajal

    Screw dimaria!!!!! I hate that guy

  29. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

    This win will sugarcoat all the problems we have in this terrible terrible team. This is a totally useless team playing against another useless team.

  30. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

    Enzo Perez for Biglia and anybody for Banega. We don’t have any midfield whatsoever!

    1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      Biglia ain’t going nowhere. Bauza seems to have some serious man-crush on him.

      1. Profile photo of IstiaqueIstiaque

        ya him, Di Maria and Romero.

  31. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Looks like Enzo Perez may be coming on, I suspect for Banega. Banega has had a shocker of a game.

    1. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

      Banega should be named mr consistent.. consistently horrible…

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    Fortunately for us, Columbia has Sanchez on their side, whose long passing accuracy has been absolutely TURGID.

    Also, is FUMING MORI the best we have at CB? Miserable.

  33. Profile photo of ClacKamasClacKamas

    chile uruguya 1-1

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    Strange. For the first 10 mins of the 2nd half, Pratto has moved a bit wide to the right and Banega has moved more centrally forward. Not quite sure what the thinking is there. Hopefully just a phase.

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    Cuadrado is absolutely bitch-slapping Emmanuel Mas . Somewhere, Marcos Rojo affords a smile.

    1. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

      Rojo would have already conceded a goal.. Mas also doesn’t seem any better so far..

  36. Profile photo of ClacKamasClacKamas

    diva maria ..dickless brainless

    1. Profile photo of jerry dieugevillejerry dieugeville

      Mas is not the answer

  37. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    As i predicted before, a BIG win…will halt the chance for changes.

    What i believe that, today is the first match Bauza got full control on the team. It happened due to the heavy criticism..and a danger of losing WC. Otherwise it would have been Aguero instead of Higuain. With Higuain and Aguero fit…and use Pratto instead…thats a bold decision.

    Today every player moved well and tried to recover the ball. There is some changes.Big difference between two team is Messi

  38. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    We really need Enzo Perez, he is not worse than Biglia defensively and so much better going forward, although at his point I would keep Biglia and sub Enzo for Banega instead.

    1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      True Enganche , more likely that if Perez comes on, it will probably be for Banega. In Bauza’s head, the Mascherano-Biglia partnership is PRISTINE and should not be broken up.

  39. Profile photo of Lester BriscoLester Brisco

    Colombians loosing their temper. Wouldn’t be at all surprized if we would see a red card. ARG must keep a cool head and concentrate on playing not bitching to referees after every whistle. First 25 minutes were good but then we started to go their way with all the useless whining. So heres what we need to do: Cool down. Shut up. Get back in form.

    Oh and whatta beauty that free kick by La Pulga! Prattogoal was great too in terms of good ball movement from left wing to right and set piece and the header were by the book.

    1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      True that. The midfield needs to pull up their socks and take control and frustrate the columbians a bit more.

      Biglia and Banega need to get MUCH more involved. Biglia is practically just positioned just behind the center line. If the ball or player is there, he tries to get involved. Otherwise, he ain’t moving for nothing.

  40. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Half-time thoughts:

    1.Romero has had nothing much to do other than look like a lost puppy on a Falcao header which fortunately sailed high.

    2. CBs: Not sure who was responsible for picking Falcao up in that aforementioned header. Nothing much to do otherwise. Otamendi missed a good chance to score off a free-kick. Both Fuming Mori and Otamendi have tried a few long passes , but need to cut that crap off. Extremely wayward and wasteful.

    3. Mercado – steady so far without offering any kind of forward width though. On a yellow, needs to be careful.

    4. Mas – all the danger coming from his side thanks to Cuadrado looking dangerous. Needs more support.

    5. Mascherano : Wasteful long passes. Defensively steady and is sniffing out threats in the midfield.

    6. Biglia : Anonymous so far. Not sure what he offers. Sniffed out 1 threat in midfield, but even my grandmom offers more attacking threat.

    7. Banega: Not really involved either. Had 1 good chance , but a weak and tame shot straight to Ospina. Needs to dictate play and take charge of midfield.

    8. Di Maria : Marginally better than the brazil game, but needs to support Mas against Cuadrado, Columbia’s most active player.

    9. Messi : Outstanding free kick, unstoppable. Brilliant cross for the 2nd. Numerous little tricks and shimmies. Carrying the team on his back.

    10. Pratto: Great work rate, good header for the 2nd. Much more active and involved than other options so far.

    The midfield has to buck up and deliver.

    1. Profile photo of niklucky02niklucky02

      Nice write-up vickerman!good to see argentina leading after waking up 🙂

  41. Profile photo of david carvajaldavid carvajal

    And the only reason were wining is because we have Messi and somebody who can actually score on national level

  42. Profile photo of david carvajaldavid carvajal

    Even though we are wining, I don’t like dimaria and banega… we need Enzo and pizzaro… and I would mention biglia, but that’s not going to change anything since no matter whose coach they will love him for some odd reason..

  43. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Bauza should show some balls and drop romero!!! Guy is finished!!! After spending a decade on the bench his GK instincts are totally gone.. banega out enzo in.. correa for dimaria

  44. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    Higuain and Aguero were not much happy with that Pratto goal… 🙂

  45. Profile photo of RichardRichard

    Finally some players seem to have woken up.
    Messi is doing fine and Pratto is doing what Pipita and Kun weren’t doing: moving in the area, creating space.
    Great free kick and good header.

    However, during the Falcao header Romero was once again glued to his line. Falcao easily beated our defenders.
    We’re making some clumsy mistakes. The yellow for Pratto. Dumb.
    Mercado should control his temper. That will be exploited by a clever opponent and leaves us one man down.

    Happy with the 3 points. My fear is that it will leave Bauza in his seat until March with no urge to make changes…

    1. Profile photo of Headless ChickenHeadless Chicken

      Don’t think any coach can change over night

      1. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

        If he was managing a European club he would have been back home before boarding a flight! !!

    2. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

      Falcao is one of the best headers in history (at least in his prime)

  46. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    And Uruguay concede a really soft goal just before half time. Idiots need to hang on for our sake.

  47. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Oh man, Chile just equalized…

  48. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Our midfield is still invisible.. dimara n banega have offered nothing offensively as usual… enzo in for banega n correa for dimaria.. and no aguero n higuain.. nooo

  49. Profile photo of HaititoArgHaititoArg

    Glad that we up 2:0 but painful to watch

  50. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Despite the scoreline we are NOT playing well. It’s has been all about Messi, without him we are sh#$%t

  51. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Balanta is going to be waking up many nights with sweat beads on his head, crying for his favorite teddy bear. Messi has absolutely been tearing him up.

  52. Profile photo of Assan AyalaAssan Ayala

    Good football in the first 23 mins now we clueless don’t even know what formation we are playing.. Btw Gracias Pratto unlike those two club boys

  53. Profile photo of shaun hugoshaun hugo

    Higuin face was a picture after prattos goal, lol.

    1. Profile photo of Julker9Julker9

      Yeah, I like that look too! Also Aguero’s sad face.

  54. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Master tactician Zombie peckerman looking at messi and wondering why didn’t i play messi in that quaterfinal vs germany who was already 5 times better than julio cruz at 17!!!

    1. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

      And subbed off Riquelme, plus wasted David Trezeguet before the U20Sudamericano in 1995, not to call him in the squad. Trezeguet’s parents are argentinians, the rest is history…

  55. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    In scores of other games, Uruguay leading Chile by 1 goal. This is a GOOD thing for argentina.

    1. Profile photo of godboy_messigodboy_messi

      Apparently Argentina will go onto 4th position right ?
      so in the next games vs Uruguay and Ecuador if we win “if” then we will go onto very good position.

  56. Profile photo of shaun hugoshaun hugo

    Messi saves and inspires this team. It’s like he carries them on his back. Imagine if di Maria stepped up too…

  57. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Hungry players are what we need!!! Get UselessMaria out n enzo in

  58. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    Bad player until now is..Banega.

  59. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Pratto already has offered more than Higuain and Aguero put together in the last game. Did really well holding up play till he got more support.

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    Banega with a great chance, but a weak shot safely into Ospina’s hands. Surprised Di Maria didn’t take the shot on and bang it right off the defender as usual 🙂

  61. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Lucky guy romero has enough time to trim his beard and style his hair to look pretty..

    1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

      He usually does that on the bench for his club, tonnes of practice 🙂

  62. Profile photo of godboy_messigodboy_messi

    We have 2 goals…but tbh we still are clueless…we look good cause Colombians have lost their head..Di Maria is somewhere in the field surely …it’s only Messi that we are ahead

  63. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Pratto with a well placed header from a stunning messi cross to make it 2-0! Higuain and Aguero with a headshake.

    That cross though….!

    Messi is ABSOLUTELY in the mood.

    1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

      Its the same story as without messi we have zero chance but with messi any thing is possible

      1. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

        Pablo my man! I hope we don’t throw away this hot start.

        Messi is the only one who’s making things happen.

        Biglia’s attempted 1-2 with Messi is the kind of thing that pisses me off. Messi was under pressure, and the chances of him getting that ball back from Biglia was less. And YET biglia tried to feed it to him, and we promptly lost possession.

        COME ON BIGLIA ! Offer something else other thant the obvious.

        1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

          I know how you are feeling mr v.
          winning today will be fantastic if we do but im so sceard bozo will not go as he is cluless.
          Its far to ovious far too many of our player’s need to be steped down fron n.t duty but bozo seems like the 3 monkeys of see no evil etc etc

  64. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

    I did say pratto offers more then those other 2 bone heads kun and hig

    1. Profile photo of guledguled

      By by higuian and useless aguero.

  65. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    LOL the cameraman showed Higuains face, priceless

    1. Profile photo of godboy_messigodboy_messi

      I was noticing the same … he’s like how do they score such !!!

  66. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Aguero n higuain would have found a worst possible way to screwup that pass from messi… even pratto seems better than those two clowns!!

    1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

      He is because is moves around unlike mr static hig but always me pratto is the plan b

  67. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    What Higuain and AGuero cant do…Pratto does. Thats what we call ICARDI. He can do wonder with Messi and Dybala.

    1. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

      I am really happy with Pratto, but thats again a reason for Bauza not to call Icardi.

  68. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    GOOOOOOOL! Pratto does what Higuain and Kun cannot!

  69. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    I still don’t understand Bauza’s fascination with Biglia though. A strictly OK player who reads the game well, but usually offers nothing in attack, no pace. Surprisingly, Enzo Perez was one of the better players last game!

    PRATTO SCORES from a MESSI Cross!!!!

  70. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Meanwhile, Uruguay is helping us by scoring against Chile

  71. Profile photo of SulaVSulaV

    Wow bauza has dropped both higuain and aguero to the bench… cartel doesn’t scare him when the job is in stake!!!!

  72. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    In other news , Di Maria still pushed around like a sissy by Cuadrado. Needs to do a lot better there.

  73. Profile photo of AslamAslam

    Only Messi Magic can save Argentina. Captain leads from front.

    Big relief…!

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  77. Profile photo of Budi SusatyoBudi Susatyo

    any link guys

  78. Profile photo of thevickermanthevickerman

    Howdy folks! anyone around here discussing the game live 🙂 Otamendi goes close with a header

  79. Profile photo of Julker9Julker9

    I still can’t decide, should I watch this game or not!?

  80. Profile photo of Lester BriscoLester Brisco

    I have been sad and angry and disapointed with Argentina the past week but now when the game is on again in few minutes Im hopeful and excited. always the same cycle. But Im always going to cheer for the albiceleste shirt! Through thick and thin. Prediction: three points by winning 2-1. Goals by Messi and Mercado. Vamos Argentina!

  81. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    Bolivia has helped us by beating Paraguay

    1. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

      But this 2 away games in Ecuador and Bolivia will be pain in the ass. 😀 3 points maximum in the 2 matches, but imo Ecuador are in Russia already, so a loss vs them is not a catasthrope, all eyes on Columbia and Chile.

      1. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

        They almost always are 🙂

  82. Profile photo of CsabalalaCsabalala

    Ecuador will definitely qualify with their home matches, 100%, Paraguay and Peru are not serious contenders, Argentina, Columbia, Chile battle for 2 places. Playoff against an asian team again not a real danger.

    1. Profile photo of guledguled

      A win v columbia is must now.

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    Juli you ask the question of any predications….with this line up and formation, we will struggle to score goals, plain and simple. Same old issues with this shitty team who have mental issues.

    If Colombia score first, we will certainly lose. At best, a draw unless Messi produces some brilliance

  84. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

    This line-up could have been significantly improved (or if you are a skeptic, it would not have been worse) if Enzo replaced Biglia, Correa for Di Maria and Rulli for Romero but our knucklehead coach does not see that.

    We really need Banega and Di Maria to step up their game, be more creative and help Messi.

    Anyway, we must win this one, vamos Argentina carajo!

    1. Profile photo of Headless ChickenHeadless Chicken

      I always have a feeling – we never can use di maria properly. 3 Points Please.

      1. Profile photo of EnganCheEnganChe

        Di Maria certainly does not help himself, a lot of poor decision making like unnecessary, endless and mindless dribbling and resulting ball loss.

        1. Profile photo of Headless ChickenHeadless Chicken


          1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

            agreed, d/m does not have a footballing brain and cor is not far behind him.

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