Edgardo BAUZA: “There could be one that hasn’t been called-up yet”

Edgardo Bauza Coach

Edgardo BAUZA spoke to the media about the list which he will be announcing on Friday.

With Argentina playing Brazil and Colombia next month, Edgardo BAUZA is getting ready to announce his list of players for those two matches. However, BAUZA spoke to the media on Thursday and here’s what he had to say:

“They’re difficult matches, different matches, we’re going to try and have a solid list of players.”

“There could be one that hasn’t been called-up yet. We’re analyzing.”

“We’re looking for some variations in midfield, there’s some players doing really well in the local league and others outside the country. We try to make as little mistakes as possible.”

“We have the best players but we also play against the best and the mistakes have costed us points in the last matches.”

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  1. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

    1.
    How many times do I have to explain?
    You think their 2006 form translate to 2004 form.
    Cambiasso was not in contention!
    Aimar would had been called but was injured and Valencia didn’t let him go.
    Real wanted Samuel to concentrate on Real.
    Ortega was suspended because he broke Fernerbahce contract.
    Crespo and Veron were not considered because they weren’t playing for Chelsea.
    Both wanted to go.
    after 2002 Crespo went to chelsea, was not interested in football and made up obscure injuries, then was sent to Ac Milan his contract year so woke up again playing for a new contract, the same was done by Saviola always when a contract year they woke up hahahaha, they were in for the money not Glory.
    Riquelme was always scapegoat why he didn’t call him, after Copa 1999 e rarely called him up because Riquelme never fitted his style “new style”.
    I don’t think Ortega, Veron and Crespo would had helped us back then.

    Yes we need the right players not according to category.

    2. Italy was destined to win, just like Greece and Portugal.
    Yes they had great players, but still relied on dirty tricks.
    Buffon said he is the most deserving player that they won the final because he was the one who told on Zidane so he got ejected and they had it easier because France was dominating them.

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    “And when I got there, I realised that the players didn’t know what was going on either, apart from Gianluigi Buffon who was protesting to the assistant, pressuring him, and Gennaro Gattuso, but the others saw almost nothing, just like me. And the noise in the stadium… the crowd just went silent, as if to say, “What’s going on? Why is that player lying on the floor?” And me in the middle of it, thinking, “Right then… how do I make this decision clear? Zidane’s going, he’s standing there calmly.”

    3. he is not yet, he must be undisputed starter for his team first and develop, but will get there baring any injury.
    It’s something we can’t prove now.
    I hope next year this time he becomes part of the team.

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      1. As you see it’s too many names to say Bielsa was not interested none of the players. Too many: Aimar, Cambiasso, Crespo, RIquelme, Ortega, Samuel, Placente, Burdisso, Saviola. I don’t think all the names but a few Bielsa would take if not the circumstances. And no matter injured or suspended – it’s potential. Brazil also had not taken players for several reasons.
      Besides it’s not most important for aim of my argumentation. That Brazil team was still stronger than Brazil in 2015/16. Also the other teams were without important players – Suarez, all Mexico. Argentina 2004 final it was more than finals 2015/16. As I said – they were playing together for the first tournament

      2. That Italy team with their Del Piero, Pirlo, Totti was more impressing in attack than Spain in 2010 with their scanty number of goals. It was absolutely not “crawling” and no matter about dirty tricks because Italians always were doing things like that.
      Final? A lot of finals were simile to that final. Usually Finals are not pleasure to watch.

      1. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

        1. saviola and placente were part of the team.
        I researched

        Sin Batistuta y con Ortega

        Debido al emplazamiento que el Comité Olímpico Internacional realizó a la AFA para que presente una nómina provisional para los Juegos de Atenas, el DT Marcelo Bielsa designó, de apuro, 51 nombres. Aún no se conocen oficialmente, pero por lo que se pudo saber no están ni Gabriel Batistuta ni Navarro Montoya, de los que se habló mucho. Curiosamente, el que sí está es el de Ariel Ortega, que no podrá jugar, ya que está suspendido por la FIFA a causa del conflicto con Fenerbhace, de Turquía. El 11 del mes próximo, en plena Copa América, Bielsa deberá dar una lista de 30, y una semana después decidir la definitiva con 18 jugadores.
        Mal de ausencias

        Hernán Crespo Confesó que deseaba ir a la Copa América, pero no fue convocado. Del mismo entorno del jugador se conoció cierto malestar por algunas decisiones del DT. Tampoco irá a los Juegos Olímpicos

        Walter Samuel Se entrenó una semana en Ezeiza y estaba con ilusiones de jugar la Copa, pero por obligaciones contractuales con su nuevo club, Real Madrid, fue desafectado el martes último.

        Román Riquelme El volante de Villarreal estaba en los planes de Bielsa para viajar a Perú, pero una operación para recuperarse de una pubialgia que lo afecta desde hace varios meses.

        Sebastián Verón El volante siempre pensó que sería llamado para los últimos partidos de las eliminatorias, pero la falta de continuidad en Chelsea le restó posibilidades y por eso no jugará la Copa América.

        Pablo Aimar Cuarenta y ocho horas después de ser convocado, Aimar fue descartado porque Valencia se negó a cederlo, ya que está en pleno trabajo de recuperación de una pubialgia.

        2. Yes Spain was the most boring team, but it doesn’t make Italy great.

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          1. Ok. But I’m sure still 2-3 players Bielsa would take if not the circumstances. Too many players under 23. It’s hard to believe he has not nowhere better striker than FIgueroa. But he had take someone U-23.
          2. But it was not “crawling”. That was most offensive Italy team I saw. Even Spain 2010 was team more depending on defence.

          1. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

            1. The squad was renovated and Olympics played a big part.
            2. Crawling yes, also Spain was boring. David Villa is an unsung hero, he carried Spain to the semis by scoring their only goals. Sadly we live in a culture where you get only acknowledged by what did you do for me lately. From the semis other took over and he was forgotten.

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    Gonazlo

    1.
    You brought Bielsa up.
    Our team had a catastrophic world cup, and it was time for change.
    Bielsa considered them the “A” team.
    I said which player were missing – you mentioned them.
    I explained to you why they werent called up.
    The point is not young players or old players is the solution, but deserving players are.
    Do you agree on that we shouldn’t exclude a player just because he is old or young?
    Do you agree that best players should play, not meaning that if our best player are strikers we should play them all.
    By best players I mean the players that are in form in their position, we can make an exception for players that suit the team’s style more, but all in all the most deserving players should play no matter where they play.
    if there are 23 deserving player in China, they should all play I don’t care, but I am against selecting players from China just because Brazil does or to prove that we have a broader view.
    why do we have to put ourselves into categories?
    Local-european
    young-old
    runner-technical
    it doesn’t make sense for me.
    That is discrimination!

    2. In the last 6 months you have watched more Premiera games than me, that is true.
    But It’s not true about the other leagues.
    How can we measure this?
    Your word against my word!

    Italy played beautiful football?
    Really!
    They cheated their way to the world cup.
    The only good game they played was against Germany, where Lippi took us as an example and let Germany play, but instead of going defensive like Pekerman did, he went offensive after the Germans got tired, and it paid off, it’s called coaching, he clearly had analyzed our game against Germany and did the opposite to Pekerman.
    Even when Zidane got red carded France with 10 men attacked more than Italy.

    I said I like Aguero and Higuain more than Dubala and Icardi, so contradicting your claim that I want to play my favorites, because I want Dybala and Icardi to play.

    He is good in attack, just isn’t being played there, that’s all.

    Maybe we aren’t understanding each other.
    I said the only way I would play Mascherano in midfield is by putting a player like Riquelme/aimar/messi/pastore/Paredes because Mascherano is one dimensional, we automatically are unbalanced with him in midfield, the only way to compensate is by putting a player that does the opposite because only those players mentioned can compensate his lack of offense.
    If you have been reading my line ups, I have always put Mascherano as defender.

    Ascacibar is only 19, and is not a finished product. He clearly isn’t Mascherano, he has offensive potential, except for shooting, he has everything a central midfielder needs.
    Paredes is no Riquelme defensively, he can defend and attack.
    Just because you are fixated with him being one dimensional he isn’t!

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      1. your explanations are very subiective. What’s the explanation of Crespo case. Aimar, Cambiasso. Riquelme was also part of Bielsa team in ’99.
      Why most of players were just under 23? Bielsa had new ideas do calling ups but even Bielsa is not so youngsters lover to take so many players under 23.
      “The point is not young players or old players is the solution, but deserving players are.
      Do you agree on that we shouldn’t exclude a player just because he is old or young?”. I’m still repeating that it’s not about young or olders, but right players. But our late coaches are calling up only the most popular players.

      “if there are 23 deserving player in China, they should all play I don’t care, but I am against selecting players from China just because Brazil does or to prove that we have a broader view.
      why do we have to put ourselves into categories?” You repeating here my thoughts. It’s not about China. Brazil has found right players in China but maybe few of the missing links of Argentina NT is in domestic league or Mexico. It’s about attitude our coach to calling up. As far discriminated are players who are playing not in Europe.

      “In the last 6 months you have watched more Premiera games than me, that is true.
      But It’s not true about the other leagues.
      How can we measure this?
      Your word against my word!”

      This thread is not to resolve

      About Italy: again I have absolutely different impressions. Italy had many technical players that weren’t there to defend. I remember my discussions with some friend during the tournament. We both were coming to conclusion that it’s definitely done with ‘catenaccio’ style of Italy.

      “Paredes is no Riquelme defensively, he can defend and attack.
      Just because you are fixated with him being one dimensional he isn’t!”
      We may capsulate problem to the sentence.
      I didn’t say he is Riquelme defensively. He is not definitevely. But Paredes is not as good as DMs,CM’s top NT mentioned by me neither defence nor attack. And you may clearly ascertain this watching the games I was put here. Last 3 Paredes games and last 2 Brazil, last 2 Germany or France. Just compare him to that players. I’m not going to be prophet and say what kind of player he will be tomorrow. But today he is not on the level imposed by midfielders these nations.

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    Gonzalo
    1. he ignored them because they weren’t good in 2004!
    Cambiasso in 2004 was not what he was in 2006, you apply his 2006 standing to 2004.
    Bielsa hardly could judge cambiasso in 2006 so he could call him in 2004, he didn’t have a time machine to go in the future.
    Riquelme, cambiasso, solari always were ignored by bielsa anyway just because they weren’t his type of players.

    2. Tell me where am I wrong!By the way I only watched one Olympic game because I was on vacation.

    3.-4.-5.
    I am not lovesick with him, just defending him from unfair slandering.
    I have watched more games than you from Perez, Perreyra, Lanzini, augusto.
    I don’t lie to myself that Perez, Augusto, Perreyra are World class midfielders. They are Hardworking roleplayers, nothing wrong with that.
    Even Lucho was hardworking midfielder, just had more talent than Perez and Augusto.
    we need them but Perez and Augusto are not top tier talent.
    How many goals did we score after playing these hardworking players only from the quarters to the final?
    —lavezzi—biglia—mascherano—Perez–?
    You compare everything with running, not all the players must be runners.
    Brazil has finally hired a real coach…and I am confident we will draw them.
    It’s too early to judge their midfield, let’s see how they fair against real competition in the world cup.
    If there anybody that is close minded that person is you.
    All type of football can win games if implemented right.
    There is no right formula, this is what you don’t get.
    2002 Brazil won by giving the talented players freedom, countering.
    2006 Italy won by crawling and defending.
    2010 Spain by playing possession football.
    2014 Germany by playing direct football.
    All they had in common was talented players playing to their strengths.
    It doesn’t matter if you take him or not, you will be not asked, and so won’t I.
    Stamania(running)
    I have said earlier I like Aguero and Higuain more than Dybala and Icardi!
    I don’t hesitate a second on dropping them, and playing dybala and Icardi instead of them, so your point is NULL.
    You think I want Paredes badly on the team?
    you are clearly mistaken!
    All I am saying is he should be considered as a possibility after the qualifiers because if we qualify we need drop players and build a team for the World Cup.

    He is very good in attack, on defense he has to learn.
    Mascherano needs a player like Riquelme/aimar/Pastore/Paredes in front of him, or drop to defense.
    Of course that player must have freedom to play his role and not have Messi/di maria/higuain/aguero intefere with his duties because if they take the ball from that player they make him expandable and we miss players up front.
    I have nothing against taking another player instead of Paredes!!!!!!!!
    But discarding him as an OPTION after the qualifiers is wrong.
    So you are totally wrong in that regard.

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      Why you are bringing here all the divagations about players that are not belonging to theme. It’s complicating discussions.

      1. In 2004 I was waiting for the tournment and watching all games. I know what was expectating and what Bielsa did. How do you think where from so many players in Olimpic age? And do you thinks I forgot what for Copa 2004 theme was mentioned by me at all? I mentioned this to prove we don’t need only all most popular players to win. Final of 2004 was more successfull than 2015/2016 because they were playing together for the first time unlike current team which is almost the same for years. So it’s absolutely not the same achieve as you said (CIRCUMSTANCES).

      2. “I have watched more games than you from Perez, Perreyra, Lanzini, augusto”. You haven’t watched more than me even your favourite Paredes let alone the players. I have analyzed 90% of Paredes games for 6 last months.

      Lavezzi and Perez were main reason for which our team had so many occasions in final. They were propelling the team.

      BTW Italy didn’t won by crawling and defending in 2006. They were played beutifull football. Have you watched the tournament?

      I don’t know what for you are talking about Aguero, Higuain, Dybala, Icardi here.

      “He is very good in attack” – another time you may only suppose that because we don’t see him in Roma attacking currently

      And you don’t understand my general idea:

      You say: Ascacibar/Mascherano will be good pair with Paredes because they will supplement each other. One of them to defending and running the second to passing. And it’s the most outdated idea precisely. Because all what I want to do is gives you idea that some national teams of the world has already players with both the abilities. Players which are good in defending, passing, running, shooting. You are ignoring that the standards of modern midfielder are higher than few years ago and we must be on par with the standards. While Paredes is one-sided player at best. And if Ascacibar will only be good in defending/running he also shouldn’t be called up unless just to Mascherano role.

  4. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

    1. My point is YOU and I know it was not a “A team”, but Bielsa thought otherwise.
    Two years later he would take them because they were in good form, except from RIQUELME(Because he hated his style).

    2. my comparison stands, those traits I mentioned are clearly visible in the 2 players.
    Now they will see it, including you.

    3. okay

    4.
    I have the impression that you think just by changing players all our problems are solved.
    Tactics are important.
    Your questions about how do i know what Spaellti thinks kinda made baffled me.
    4-3-3 he plays in front of the defense just like busquets, their role is not to score goals.
    Is he doing as good as Busquets is another question.
    Professional football the coaches come up with schemes, choreographed running channels, and every player has a defined role.
    Paredes can’t decide to move on the pitch wherever he wants like in pick up games.
    According to Bauza Dybala is a right winger, Why don’t we talk about him just as right Winger, I don’t care what he plays at Juventus all I care is what he plays for us.
    See I can switch this up on you.
    Just like we have evidence on Dybala playing better as forward role, we have evidence although a small sample of Paredes that he can play further up the pitch and score goals and assists at Boca.
    and both have something we lack!
    SHOOTING FROM DISTANCE!
    The solution is not having the same type of player, not everybody should be dribblers or passers.
    manchester united had giggs as a dribbler, beckham as a crosser, 2 different wingers, 2 different attacks.
    I had a problem with you saying categorically as a fact that he cant score goals or will never transition as a complete midfielder.
    Now that you have backtracked and say according to your opinion I am cool with that. Everybody has their own opinion.

    Everything has to do with talent. In my opinion Mancuello is a good player but he is not as talented as some others.
    The same can be said about Augusto, Perez, etc…
    I wish we had this type of players with more talent.
    The only 2 I think of are Lanzini and Perreyra, the former has tons of talent just don’t play him as a 10 or as a winger.
    Players like Perez, augusto, lavezzi, perreyra, lanzini are a must in starting 11, so are players like Messi and passers.
    the right mix is needed!

    We need both hardworkers and technical players, but it must have a shape.
    I agree more hardworkers are needed!
    We have identified the same problem, you kind of insist on only hardworkers, while I insist on both because both are needed to win games.
    Paredes and Ascacibar would be a great pair because they both bring something different to the table and it complement them.
    Putting a player like Ascacibar next to him is overkill, just like putting Mascherano and Kranvitter next to each other.

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      1. How he could ignore Crespo?! Player like Cambiasso, even on bench in Real is not to ignore. Even Bielsa is not so much dare to take so young players from domestic league and Mexico. You think why he has taken 23 years old Figueroa from Mexico over Crespo? Do you really think because he prefered FIgueroa? Nah, he prepared U-23 team for Olimpic Games one months later. Stop to deny this.

      2. I see very clearly you didn’t saw more Ascacibar than on Olimpic Games or even less.

      3. 4. 5…

      You don’t know still what is unacceptable in your attitude. It’s so clearly that you are just so much lovesick in this player that you don’t want to follow other options all over the world. It’s just like KidultHood who never is going to leave some beloved players no matter what they do. Please to watch 4-5 games of Enzo, 4-5 games, Pereyra, Nacho, Pizarro, Lanzini, Augusto… Then you should sincerly to tell which of them gives us more. Every of this players is more influential player than Paredes.
      Now you should go to watch for example Brazil midfielders (Renato Augusto, Paulinho) and honestly to say where is Paredes to them. He never will be hardworker as this guys. He was not in BOca and he is not the type of box-to-box now. He has not stamina. Just lovely ball control and very scanty number of good passes of late. If he were good as Masche or Busquets or Fernandinho in defence I would take him as pure No.5. But he is not. He is not enough good neither as No.5 nor box-to-box.

      Crucial question:
      What for pair with Masche player who is not enough good both defence as attack (just supposed to be better in future by you) if we may take now someone who is at the moment real box-to-box and doing well in this role. We have such players. And it’s unfair to ignore them just because you think Paredes will be better some day. So it is just ignorance of players which are not among your favourites.

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    Gonzalo
    I won the bet about Bauza, no satisfication at all. I am filled with sadness that our team has fallen so low. I hope he falls into a solution like Sabella did and we win the World cup because that is what i care the most.

    1. Aimar(injured and out of form), Crespo(not even benchwarmer for Chelsea), Riquleme(Bielsa’s most hated player, never was considered for the team under Bielsa, don’t you know this?), Cambiasso (was at Real reserve).
    Don’t compare them 2004 and 2006, two different times.
    you compare their 2006 form with their 2004 form, two different worlds. it’s like saying messi should have been on the team because he was in good form 2005.

    2. I said Ascacibar reminded me of Gago in the point that he looks to win the ball and as soon as he has achieved this tries to play the ball forward to the next man.
    He makes the game fast just like Gago.
    They both are all over the place moving.
    What is wrong with that?
    do you compare them to height or what?

    3. You never guided me anything
    Carlos Bianchi guided me on Paredes, not you!
    All you see is goals, assits, numbers.
    “like” -> means similar, not clone.
    Paredes isn’t Kroos or Ballack, he has similar traits.
    Not a clone.
    Paredes is being played very deep.
    How many goals does Busquests score? – 8
    Veratti has scored 6 goals his whole career!
    It’s not his duty to score goals.
    This is what you don’t see, coaches instructions.
    while Ballack and Kroos are used further up the pitch especially with the inclusion of Casmeiro.
    Put Paredes further up the pitch, give him that role and he will score goals.
    You simply have an agenda against him, he plays in front of the defense and you ask for goals.
    What is this?
    Ballack scored also less goals when he wasn’t played near the goal.

    4. I can’t read minds but i know how a 4-3-3 works.
    just exposed yourself here.
    Paredes plays in front of the defense.
    I compare him to players that play the same role like busquets or veratti, not to players that play further up the pitch.
    All I am saying is he has the potential to play further up the pitch.
    when he plays there and doesnt score goals then you can criticize him for that because that role requires goals, but not the one where he is playing now.

    I am the same guy.
    Believing and predicting are 2 different things.
    I believe in the players mentioned.
    I don’t base my statements on prediction but on track record.
    I was against Bauza by using common sense.
    He fitted the same profile of coach we have been dealing with for years.
    He doesn’t fit with our players.
    What does this have to do with prediction?
    I am against look down at people at people or opponent.
    You can do everything right and still lose, shit happens.
    I was the one who suggested Paredes as box to box, you made arrogant remarks about it, and I had to check you because I always say and defend my opinion even if someone doesnt like it.

    I believe we have great youngsters coming up, The argentine league produces wonderful football,It’s my brand of football, I only dislike the format, just make it 20 teams.
    I suggest to everybody if you like football follow it religiously you will be entertained like no other league.

    which players do I hold a double standard to?

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      1. I remember very well that tournament in 2004. When I watched the names in the squad it was shocking and obvious it’s B team. Of course was not waiting for Batistuta and all from 2002 but still a lot of important (also for Bielsa) players left out of team. For many reasons. First of the reasons was: he was going to shape Olimpic Team yet on COpa. You don’t see this? No matter Aimar was injured or Cambiasso on Real bench. I’m sure if different circumstances he would take their. If 2 years later he was still a coach he would take them. Crespo even was just 29 at the time…

      2. Still I don’t think there is here anyone who would compare him to Gago. I’m sure anyone.

      3. I didn’t said I was the one who guided you on Paredes but guided you on some Paredes similarity to Kroos.

      4. “Paredes plays in front of the defense.
      I compare him to players that play the same role like busquets or veratti, not to players that play further up the pitch”. So why you are talkinh about him as attacking midfielder or box-to-box.

      “All I am saying is he has the potential to play further up the pitch”. Even if he has (I doubt about it) he is not doing as DM the things that a lot of modern DM’ are doing.

      “I was the one who suggested Paredes as box to box, you made arrogant remarks about it, and I had to check you because I always say and defend my opinion even if someone doesnt like it”.

      I don’t know it was arrogant. When you are convinced that some things are almost pipe dream you maybe understood as arrogant because of sharp objections, disagree.

      “Paredes is being played very deep.
      How many goals does Busquests score? – 8
      Veratti has scored 6 goals his whole career!”
      I never compared Paredes to Busquets. You know why? Because Busquets is far better in defence so every coach can forget him that has not many goals. It’s the same as Masche. Paredes defensively is far behind the two. Neither Masche nor Busquets could not be so much ignoring a player who is uncover as Paredes did it 2 times when Austria Vien was scoring goals in last his game.

      I never compared Paredes to Veratti (even if Veratii has a bit more assist) because I was talking about 3 the strongest rivals: Brazil, Germany, France. Italy are not so importnant. And Defensive midfielders of the teams all are better than Paredes both defence and attack. And especially you can’t compare Paredes to 2 Brazilian box-to-box Renato Augusto, Paulinho – what was starting point all my last issues about Paredes.

      And one more time: since beginning we are talking about CURRENT PAREDES not Paredes of Boca times or Paredes in future. If he is not attacking DM now and we need attacking one/box-to-box coach should call up such player and not call up Paredes and wait till the quastionable time when he turned to such player. If you stick on Paredes still with the thought wanting him in NT by force it means you don’t want to see nothing about our possible box-to-box all over the world.

      I don’t want to say about Paredes minuses more. I’m just convinced we have better players at every position that he may plays. Or just convinced that we will sooner achieve our aims if taking one of Enzo, Pereyra, Nacho Fernandez, Augusto, Lanzini, Pizarro.

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        Now the rest is silence. I’m not going to talkina about Paredes in near future. Let the time tell. I’m just stronly convinced we have better players and our main NT rivals have better players on the positions. So we must to seek someone better. JUST MY OPINION but supported several things.

        I don’t know why we are in the place when like enemies. I don’t want that.

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          Just don’t understand why you think I could strike off all player of some kind. It’s misunderstanding.

          You know I like very much Mancuello and I wanted him more in NT. While he is exactly Riquelme type of player. And you said I don’t like players in Riqelme type. You see it’s untruth.
          I like Alan Ruiz while he is almost copy of RIquelme.
          And I like Kroos and at the same time I’m not a fan of Paredes even if he is simile type. Just because Kroos is better player.

          Once Banega was my favourite Argentina player despite he never was a runner. But then I understood we need more (not only) hardworkers than technical and lovely ball control footballers like Banega, Pastore or Paredes.

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    1. which players?
    name names!
    It was a A team.

    2. Okay, live in a dream world.

    3. Of course you like runners, why are you denying it?
    I took Ascacibar as an example because you have your rose tinted glasses on when you talk about him, while nitpicking every mistake of Paredes.
    I praise both because both will be great players.

    4. You said earlier that Paredes can’t play offensively, you denied his potential there, I proved your wrong
    but what is your response?
    Mr. fair weather guy, “I’m a what have you done for me lately guy”
    Thanks for admitting that you hop around.

    You have no vision whatsoever!
    Kroos was a 10, dropped deeper.
    Schweinsteiger was a right midfielder, dropped centrally.
    You would have played Kroos as 10, schweinsteiger right midfielder and never in your mind would it occur to try them centrally, then go to the next player, repeat.
    Paredes does what his coach wants him to.
    Someday a coach will realize what he is capable and will use him right.

    My track record is undefeated!
    You weren’t anti Bauza like you claim, you were let’s wait and see guy, now I read today a disgusting post of yours making fun of Sabellista.
    So what he believed in Bauza, was wrong so what, why do you have the need to do such thing when you yourself where a wait and see guy!
    He admitted being wrong, he is a real man, Kidulthood on the other side never admits to be wrong so he deserves to be blasted.
    I kinda lost respect for you as a poster.

    I never have taken any opinion from you.
    I can think for myself.
    If anything it was the other way around.

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      Ghostdeini, now you are compromised for me. You thought it was irony to Sabellista today? You thought it was making fun? Oh man. Now you just proved what you have in soul. Bad suspections. Cause the post to Sabellista were from the heart, sincer and not irony. I wanted to write this to him because saw you with satisfaction that you won the bet with Sabellista. Bet about Bauza.

      1. Aimar, Crespo, Riquelme, Cambiasso, Burdisso

      3. “I took Ascacibar as an example because you have your rose tinted glasses on when you talk about him”. What do you mean? If I’m not the one who was stopping someone who was wanted to see in Ascacibar a playmaker? Yes, I was the one. I see him in true. And I see you know absolutely nothing about him. Prove? Your comparison him to Gago is most off the point I ever heard. He is no way like Gago. And some time you will see ridiculousness of the comparison. Just like I was needing to guide you on trace comparisons Paredes to Kroos rather and not Ballack what was another absurd. Look at Ballack’s number of goals in NT. He was great header while Paredes is so weak in this point despite his height.

      “Of course you like runners, why are you denying it?” It’s idiotism. You are not arguing just make fool of yourself. We may fight in this childish way without end.

      4. “You said earlier that Paredes can’t play offensively, you denied his potential there, I proved your wrong
      but what is your response?” You mean the goals in Boca? One more time: who cares if he is not doing it now. He can’t do this if playing DM/CM role so what for bring it here. We are talking abut DMs/CMs not LMs/AMs.

      “Paredes does what his coach wants him to.
      Someday a coach will realize what he is capable and will use him right”. This is magical. Where from you know what his coach want from him. You was in my mind just now, you are in Roma coach mind now, and you know what will be with Paredes in future – he will turn out into box to box; you know that both Ascacibar and Paredes will great players some time. So tell me what is the difference betwen you and KidultHood who was prophet on this site. And you was the one who criticizing him for the things.

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        “My track record is undefeated!
        You weren’t anti Bauza like you claim, you were let’s wait and see guy”.

        What’s this? YOu proved here it’s all about your own glory. You just need to be right.

        Who said I was anti Bauza? I never said this. And what for to be anti-Bauza. You fell as if it was reason to be proud now. COngratulations. Yes I was let’s say and see guy and it’s the best attitude.

        Do you really the same guy who was talking about fast to not betting and give predictions. Now you are throwing predictions without end.

  7. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

    I supported Mancuello to be given a chance, so you can see that he is never NT material. ABILA< PRATTO are not NT team material.
    Alario on the other hand is, but maybe not now, because there are others in front of him.

    Riquelme failed in EUROPE?
    1st year
    took Villarreal to the quarterfinals of the Uefa Cup.
    2nd year
    took them into top four of la liga and semi final of uefa cup.
    3rd year
    took them to the semi final of champions league.
    then had an offer from manchester united, he refused and they bought carrick.
    all you remember is that year at Barca were he wasn't wanted by the lunatic Van gaal.

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      Why you still know that Mancuello was not NT material judging him after 60 minutes? Abila, Pratto? Why you talkin about them here?

      Is Riquelme the only player who is good example that some Argentina league stars that weren’t conquer Europe are good NT candidates?

      You may take the things vice-versa as well.
      Tevez was the brightest star of his last season in Italy while in next season he was not so good in Boca. So you may coming to conclusion that Primera is stronger league than Seria A. You see that? It’s without sense. It’s difficult to compare.

      1. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

        Gerrard and Lampard played for the title in Premier league then went to MLS and struggled.
        MLS is better than EPL.
        Taarabt, couldn’t get games for the Epl teams went to Serie A became a star, went back to Epl couldn’t get games.
        Tagliafico went to 2nd division Murcia and couldnt establish himself.
        Does this mean 2nd division of spain is better tha the Premiera?
        Circumstances my friend, not level of play!

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          “Tagliafico went to 2nd division Murcia and couldnt establish himself.
          Does this mean 2nd division of spain is better tha the Premiera?
          Circumstances my friend, not level of play!”

          And now you see this. You are apply double standards in aim what do you want to prove. You are talking “couldnt establish himself” if you want ot defend some player. On the other hand you don’t want use the same logic to defend a lot of Primera players which were interesting options as stars of the league but never established theirselves in Europe. It’s also circumstances.

  8. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

    1. Crespo?
    Crespo was at Chelsea at the time and was terrible, that summer he moved to Milan on loan where he found his form again.
    Bielsa thought those players were the best at that time!
    Yes, players were missing but Bielsa thought they weren’t good enough. When the coach thinks those are the best players, it’s the A team.
    Don’t try to rewrite history because there are people like me who religiously followed all the National team players on a daily basis.

    2.here you have it”
    “Do you really think the Argentine league is the same as playing for a top team in a top 4 league?” Comaring to Serie A I think only Juventus is over the level of Argentina best clubs.

    3. I really like Ascacibar! more than Kranevitter! I like both.
    You prefer Ascacibar because he is a runner, while I prefer him just because I think he will be better.
    Just like I “fantasize” about Paredes potential, you do the same with Ascacibar.
    All 3 make mistakes, Ascacibar made mistakes playing for us, while Paredes never played for us.
    You only see what you want.
    You are possessed trying to discredit Paredes writing long posts, He is not our problem, he never has played for us, all you talk is hypothetical.
    At the end of the day all 3 are projects and not finished products and you are not the authority who decides what they will be or not.
    Thankfully you are not!

    4. What method do you use?
    Show me your method of evaluation!
    You think direct assist and goals are the only facts players contribute on offense.
    I am not a Paredes fanatic!
    You are possessed with him, don’t you see?
    All you see at Roma is him!
    I just can’t stand guys slandering a player just because he is not the ROBOT he wants him to be.
    Why do you feel so threatened by him?
    He makes you go bezerk.
    all based on your hypothetical.
    Do you think Kroos is slow?
    Paredes is wanted by Klopp, a coach whose bread and butter pressing is. Do you really think he would be interested in him because he plays defensive midfielder and is slow?
    Even Guardiola was linked with him.
    Paredes is a central midfielder.
    WATCH PAREDES AT BOCA(OTHER POST WITH LINKS IS UNDER MODERATION)
    he has been doing what Ascacibar is doing years ago!
    Oh i forgot, you dismiss his time ate Boca, where he played further up and scored goals.
    He can do everything.
    All he needs is a coach who entrusts him with that.
    Kroos and Paredes are not as slow as you think, they just chose to play smart.

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      1. Bielsa didn’t called up some european players over 23 years because he prepared team for Olimpic Games. He knew it must be mainly the same team. Look at Argentina 2006. There was few players which even Bielsa couldn’t ignore but he needed players under 23 mostly. Look at age of the players. It was not A team.
      Besides you forgot about all the missed players our rival of Copas 2015,2016. Argentina in last years had easier task than Argentina 2004. Bielsa players were playing together first tournament. It’s uncomparable.

      2. Yes, apart Juventus the rest Serie A teams are not stronger than RIver, BOca, Independiente, Estudiantes, Lanus, San Lorenzo, Racing.

      3. “I really like Ascacibar! more than Kranevitter! I like both.
      You prefer Ascacibar because he is a runner, while I prefer him just because I think he will be better.
      Just like I “fantasize” about Paredes potential, you do the same with Ascacibar”.

      Where from you know why I like Ascacibar? Why do you want to impute me the reason I like him. It’s total nonsense. You are not in my mind. I prefer him over Kranevitter for many reasons. Don’t make a fool of me who is only looking for running.

      “Just like I “fantasize” about Paredes potential, you do the same with Ascacibar”. Now show me when I’m fantasize. “You only see what you want”. No, I see what is on video. Most of Paredes fans are quiet now because they saw on the video what I saw. Only you just trying still deny ‘nuda veritas’.

      “he never has played for us, all you talk is hypothetical”. On Paredes. It’s a joke. What is hypothetical? When I gives you video of ROma game and we all see he is not box to box midfielder it’s fact. But if you are talking about Paredes who maybe some time will run ahead – it’s hypothetical. If he desn’t doing some things now I can’t call him for hypothetical/virtual abilities.

      4. Finally you fell to non-meritoric argumentation.
      It was always so funny when people boosting players by tranfers rumors. If Kloop want him why he is not there? “He is linked…”. It’s childish. It’s not argument. Most of players all his career are linking with clubs that never will buy him.

      “You think direct assist and goals are the only facts players contribute on offense”. No, but Paredes has no goals, no assist, no runs, is lazy in defence and finally… he has not even enough key passes of late what was supposed to be his main strenghts. Watch his last 3 games and you will see. Long range shoots – what also supposed to be his strength – I saw in last 3 games shooting him 4 or 5 times and all the shoots off the goal. So actually WTH.
      Kroos is not fast but still faster than Paredes.

      You are talking still more off theme. “WATCH PAREDES AT BOCA”. Who cares what he did in Boca if he does not doing the things currently. It doesn’t matter.

      You know I was the first here who compare him to Kroos. THen after me Csabalala do this. And than you. The comparison – it was exaggeratedly just to show what kind of player he is. But from “he is the same type of player” you can’t just jump to “he is like”. These are different things. “Almost” makes huge difference.
      And it’s not only about Kroos goals and assists. Kroos scoring the goals because he is just often near penalty box than Paredes. He is not scoring goals from 30-40 m distance. While Paredes is not running ahead.

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        And one more thing. You think all the time I want to discredite Paredes just to find a place for Ascacibar in NT. And it’s completly absurd. Ascacibar never was my favourite players because I have not favourite players. I’m just talking about Ascacibar because he is impressing for me so far.

        That’s why you still want to give me the impression that you are estimating Ascacibar a lot just to find mutual consens (Paredes along Ascacibar both in NT). I don’t need that. YOu don’t understand I don’t care about what do you think about Ascacibar. If he will go down with his form I’ll left talking about him. You won’t convince me to Paredes just because you will suggest Paredes- Ascacibar duo. Besides Ascacibar is typical No.5 while Paredes was supposed to be by mundo members be box-to-box or someone who attacking (i.e. partner for No.5) what is false precisely.

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    Enzo, Buffarini, Acuna

  10. Profile photo of Cris de martinoCris de martino

    Here is the link for the list
    http://www.afa.org.ar/5817/lista-de-convocados

    Enjoy

  11. Profile photo of Cris de martinoCris de martino

    Ok bauza just dropped the list

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    Meanwhile…Brazil recall Douglas Costa, Marcelo and Casemiro for Argentina clash.

  13. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

    Gonzalo
    Why don’t you admit that you don’t like Paredes because he represents a kind of player that you don’t like.
    Do you know where I base my opinion about this?
    Your opinion about Riquelme tells it all.
    You simply don’t like that kind of player.

    1. Copa America 2004 they lost to Mexico!
    Tata never lost!

    2. You think Serie A is worse than the Argentine league?
    Okay then.
    Players playing there deserve to be called, and I have campaigned for this, but it’s not as good as you think.

    3. You see more in Ascacibar because Kranevitter is not the type of player you like.
    You prefer players that run, it’s evident!

    4. Correa – not everything was aimed at you!

    4. How is Cuesta better than any of the defender?
    how do you measure that?
    He isn’t even National team material.
    and neither was Mancuello,his biggest threat was free kicks which he doesn’t get to do in the NT.

    5. A wider perspective is not hating on players just because you don’t like their style.
    What have you proven?
    Can you elaborate more because I have missed that.
    If you meant a type of player like Paredes(which is why you don’t like him)can’t succeed, then you are totally wrong!
    We played with that kind of player and made it to the final, we played with robots like you want and made it to the final.
    BOTH LOST!

    My favorite player is tagliafico!
    Favorite players of mine are Paredes, Ascacibar, and Kranevitter!
    Blessed to have them all.
    I don’t believe in rivalries, I liked Riqelme and I like Aimar, I also liked D’allesandro, Romagnoli, etc,…I am not a fanboy.

    Riquelme and Gago.
    Riqelme had 1 bad year in Europe at Barca, do you know why?
    Because you and Van Gaal share the same view on these kind of players.
    He went to Villareal and had 3 great years.
    Sir Alex Ferguson wanted to by him but he refused because he is a little crazy.
    This is what’s wrong all his haters remember is his time at Barca where he was sabotaged, and his missed penalty while forgetting 3 great years at Villarreal.
    Riquelme chose to go back, not because he didn’t make it!
    Gago simply chose the wrong team, and his focus wasnt football, believe me I used to search news about him everyday and all the news that popped up were “gago new flame” “Gago and higuain take each others girlfriends” the same was true about Garay when he was at Madrid.
    Nothing football related!

    At last, just because I or you think so, doesn’t mean we are right. Neither of us has any qualifications, and none of our opinions matter.
    Players will prove us wrong or right.

    1. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

      Forgot to add that 2004 Brazil team was considered a “B” team, Brazil fans used to make fun of me because their “B” team beat my “A” team!

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      1. Copa 2004. Our team also was not with all best players. Some players from Europe could add a lot still (for example Crespo)

      2. Read my posts better. When I wrote Primera is better than Serie A?

      3. Ascacibar or Kranevitter. “You see more in Ascacibar because Kranevitter is not the type of player you like”. Hey what are you talking about? It’s not all about type of players. Ascacibar or Kranevitter aren’t the same type but it deosn’t mean theres no any plain of comparison, any absolute values which through we may estimate which of them is better. Yes we may. And when I’m doing some recapitulate I’ coming to conclusion Ascacibar is more promisng than Kranevitter.

      4. You try to defend also Paredes from the same line of argumentation: it’s all about preferences of players type you say. No, it’s not about preference. When I sum up Paredes pluses and compare him with those DMs of other NT I’m coming to conclusion he is far to them. It’s not about preferences.
      And yes, you try to deny evidents. I’m trying always to be on basis of content/merit. Hence my reference to live games and comparisons to other players.

      I’m bringing here as many evidences as it’s possible, never mere words without support. But you prefer to spin fantasy about into whom Paredes will turning out. Instead I have some eveidents who he is now.
      Do You want to deny that his offensive impact of last Roma games is almost 0. Do you want ot deny he is half-way line keeping player now (we seen it on video clearly)? Do you want to deny he is nowhere in running aspect to all the other nations players I was talking about (maybe behind Kroos)? DO you want to deny Paredes was involved in 2 goals of Austria Vien yesterday by his laziness? Do you want to flounder to the point where you will not Paredes fun but just blind fanatic?

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        YOu forgot Macuello has played only 60 minutes in NT and scored freekick goal. And after only 60 minutes you know he is not NT material. And you are still talking about your patience to players and that they deserves for more time.

        Where I was writing Cuesta is better than any of our defender? There was “most” not “any”.

        And why you finding with easy Riquelme and Gago excuses why they were not good in Europe but only Argentina and on the other hand you can’t realize that a lot of Argentina league players/stars failed in Europe for the same reasons which you don’t know just because you don’t know enough about his personal history. These are double standards what is unfair.

        A lot of Argentina league stars were too weak for Europe but also a lot were just in wrong place. But they were good players at all.

      2. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

        1. Crespo?
        Crespo was at Chelsea at the time and was terrible, that summer he moved to Milan on loan where he found his form again.
        Bielsa thought those players were the best at that time!
        Yes, players were missing but Bielsa thought they weren’t good enough. When the coach thinks those are the best players, it’s the A team.
        Don’t try to rewrite history because there are people like me who religiously followed all the National team players on a daily basis.

        2.here you have it”
        “Do you really think the Argentine league is the same as playing for a top team in a top 4 league?” Comaring to Serie A I think only Juventus is over the level of Argentina best clubs.

        3. I really like Ascacibar! more than Kranevitter! I like both.
        You prefer Ascacibar because he is a runner, while I prefer him just because I think he will be better.
        Just like I “fantasize” about Paredes potential, you do the same with Ascacibar.
        All 3 make mistakes, Ascacibar made mistakes playing for us, while Paredes never played for us.
        You only see what you want.
        You are possessed trying to discredit Paredes writing long posts, He is not our problem, he never has played for us, all you talk is hypothetical.
        At the end of the day all 3 are projects and not finished products and you are not the authority who decides what they will be or not.
        Thankfully you are not!

        4. What method do you use?
        Show me your method of evaluation!
        You think direct assist and goals are the only facts players contribute on offense.
        I am not a Paredes fanatic!
        You are possessed with him, don’t you see?
        All you see at Roma is him!
        I just can’t stand guys slandering a player just because he is not the ROBOT he wants him to be.
        Why do you feel so threatened by him?
        He makes you go bezerk.
        all based on your hypothetical.
        Do you think Kroos is slow?
        look from 3.50->>>
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R84aTL0GFK4
        Paredes is wanted by Klopp, a coach whose bread and butter pressing is. Do you really think he would be interested in him because he plays defensive midfielder and is slow?
        Even Guardiola was linked with him.
        Paredes is a central midfielder.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JrQVQqlxkE
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2D4m6iLrDw
        he has been doing what Ascacibar is doing years ago!
        Oh i forgot, you dismiss his time ate Boca, where he played further up and scored goals.
        He can do everything.
        All he needs is a coach who entrusts him with that.

  14. Profile photo of Debasish DuttaroyDebasish Duttaroy

    New man will be Tevez.

    Brazil game we will surely lose. Colombia hopefully we get a point.

  15. Profile photo of GhostdeiniGhostdeini

    Gonzalo
    //Continuation from the other thread//

    I hope you want the best players, but I am not convinced.
    A wider perspective is not excluding players just because you don’t like their style or age.
    You bring Bielsa up again.
    Bielsa took old and unfit players and lost, while leaving deserving players at home.
    Then he chose young players, he didn’t have any other choice because most of 2002 team retired. He went to the final and lost.
    Basile also went to the final and lost.
    Tata also went to the final twice and lost.
    Sabella also lost.
    So what did Bielsa achieve?
    all he did was excluding deserving players that could had helped us.
    Young players lost, old players lost!

    Do you really think the Argentine league is the same as playing for a top team in a top 4 league?
    Don’t overrate the league.
    this is a league where a player like Fernando Belluschi comes in and becomes a star.
    the Argentine league is full of young players and players that came to retire.
    There are rarely any players playing in their prime that are good.
    Look at Kranevitter, last year he was the man, then he moved to Europe and hasn’t established himself yet. He has become an after thought in the fans mind, and now they have switched to Ascacibar. Just wait until he moves to Europe, YOU ALL WILL TURN ON HIM!
    Honeymoon period will be over and most of you will go onto the next up and up upcoming midfielder and create myths about him so that you can turn on him later.
    I havent given up on kranevitter, and will not give up on him, this will make him only stronger.
    I will never give up on Ascacibar even if he falls because no doubt he will stand up!
    This ridiculous cycle must be broken, this culture on hopping on and out a certain player’s bandwagon must stop.
    Before the Olympics Correa was a hero, after it a villan and the other correa has been forgotten totally.
    Even the Lanzini bandwagon had a lot of room recently because of his not so good start.

    What about Cuesta?
    Yes Lanzini played in the friendly and many turned on him, like always Argentine coaches play him out of position. He is not a 10, or LW, he is a Left midfielder.
    and I have been watching him since he made his debut at 16 for River.

    There is no right formula to win.
    Barca wins playing their brand of football, while other fail playing the same brand of football.
    Italy wins playing defensive football, others fail.
    Teams that choose the best players based on merit, are balanced, play players in their natural position and play a brand of football that suits their strengths win games.

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      1. Copa America 2004 and Olimpic Games – silver coin of that Copa is not the same as silver coin of last years. I think you know that very well. It’s quite different context. Bielsa took (no matter that he had to do it) players from nowhere, young, unexperienced footballers and the team was great all the tournament. They were playing really worth watching football. A lot of them won gold Olimpic medal months later. While in last Copas the teams was unconvincing not only in final. The players from 2004 seemed at the time to have better future than they had.

      2. Primera Division
      “Do you really think the Argentine league is the same as playing for a top team in a top 4 league?” Comaring to Serie A I think only Juventus is over the level of Argentina best clubs.
      And why you are bringing here Primer theme? All I said is: we need right players no matter where they are playing, Europe, Primera, Mexico or China. What’s doing now in Brazil team (the players from CHina or Russia) it’s just argument that I’m not wrong here. What is the result of calling up most popular players you just seen it.
      In Argentina league are better players than Belluschi I’m not for him. But people still ignore the important factors that many of Argentina players never will acclimatize in Europe. They never get adjusted but the talent is there (they are often as much talented as the players who conquer Europe) and if we want to exploit their talent we should take their from Argentina League because it’s the only place where they can play his best. It’s case of many players, not only Riquelme or Gago.

      3. Kranevitter – “I havent given up on kranevitter”. Did I do it? Absolutely not. Some people after last qualifiers game and also Sevilla were do this. You may find in previous news my posts when I was defending him speaking: he is still not the Kranevitter I saw in River and he is better than currently for sure. I haven’t given up on Kranevitter but yes I see more potential in Ascacibar – it’s very clear.

      4. Correa – I still following EVERY his game so it’s hard to say I have given up for him. I don’t know who forgotten Correa but it’s not me for sure. I’m talking about him more than any other.

      5. Cuesta – is better than most of our NT defenders but after Olimpic Games I don’t want to talk about him because people have their favourites anyway.

      6. “A wider perspective is not excluding players just because you don’t like their style or age”. What I’m doing still is following Argentina players all over the world to find the best. Most of people here just following most popular players from Europe but apparently still they are not watching a much if are believing that Paredes is player who is not. ” excluding players just because you don’t like their style or age”. It’s not about who I like. In last days I was proving that some player is type player that is not considered to be. I proved than. You have many sided description and video compares with players of other NT. It’s not methinks, it’s evidences. Nuda veritas. Ghostdeini I know it’s your favourite player so you want to deny what was displayed by me so clear.

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        *I was proving that some player is not the type player that he is considering to be. I proved that

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        And if I’m excluding current Predes it’s not because I like him or not. It’s just because I don’t see him withstanding to DMs of other NT. All the defensive midfielders Brazil, germany or France I was talking about are better than Paredes not only because they are running more or something like that. On the other hand when regurarly watching our several DM’s and see clearly we have few better than Paredes. It’s not about like and dislike.

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      IMO, Ascacibar is the best DM Argentina produced recently.

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    only one?
    let me guess:
    either pastore or gago
    LOL

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    Batistuta critic about the way new U-20 coach was appointed:

    http://www.ole.com.ar/seleccion/circo_0_1672032944.html

    “Fue todo un circo”

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    Only One?
    How about 21 and only keep Messi and Dybala?

    I expect another insult from this man. He will once again call players that sit on the bench at their clubs or haven’t started competitive club games in a long time. He prefers them over young talent and players that prove themselves every week at their clubs in both Europe and Argentina. If we see Demichelis, Rojo, Romero etc. again we might kiss the WC goodbye 20 months before it starts.

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      We lack of friendly games between the qualifiers. A friendly games that could be training ground for some domestic players are this unpopular from Mexico,Europe. It’s a pity there’s no more something like Copa Roca or two friendly games Argentina vs Brazil with domestic players what took place under Sabella yet.

      1. Profile photo of RichardRichard

        There is a good chance that we will play a lot of friendly games in 2018…

        1. Profile photo of GonzaloGonzalo

          Hahaha

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          Add..after WC.. 🙂

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      It will never materialize with some players. Aguero, Messi too. They are players who are saving energy when your team is on defence. They are switching fuel-efficient mode then to have energy for few crucial runs when your team is in possesion. If Aguero were more defending player he would have no enough energy to attacking moments.

      That’s why I was talking a lot lately of player like Lucas Janson of Tigre. He is very simile to Aguero but LB,LM and LF in one player. Hardworker as no one of our forwards. Unfortunately it’s outdated because he is out for 6 months by injury.

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        Messi defended from time to time, and did so intelligently, while Aguero was lazy.

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        As we discussed here many times, Aguero is so lazy and injury prone. We cannot trust him. Dybala and Higuain help defense. Even Messi is helping the defense when needed. Aguero is selfish, lazy and injury prone. Hes not a team player.

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    To Sabellista

    where are you man? Is there any diffrent reason of your absence of late here than Bauza’s bad work? Come on man. Most of people here was firmly convinced to Bauza not only you. I saw here so much level of autosuggestion in Mundo members that he must be the right coach even if the same people were dissapointed at a time he was just appointed. Your thoughts were usually original, you were having your own/different opinion on most themes and I liked it. Even if we both were in clear contradiction. The only thing that makes me scared it’s when Mundo absolutely unanimous. “Where all think alike no one thinks very much”. It’s property of totalitarian systems.

    As in Hegel philosphy. We need both thesis and anthitesis to find ourselves on highest level of sinthesis. So collision on ideas and ferment of thoughts is best thing in here and everywhere to develope. The only thing that we must not accept is the rivalry between us who was right. Who was better: my player or your player. Our rivals are Brazil, Gernamy and others but not other Mundo members. Do you seek Argentina glory or your owns glory?

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      Besides, Bauza still may improve although I have not much hope for this because he is puppet of AFA.

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    Rumor: Aguero to be sold.

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    I thought he wants to take 6 new (or almost new) players. Now he wants just one. Tomorrow he will want no one new.

    1. Profile photo of pablo dennisonpablo dennison

      gonzalo: yes it seems the man of a thousand words cannot remember actually what words he has actually uttered and that could make selecting interesting as well as tricky but all in all no surprise from mr wayyy out of his depth bauza.

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        Hahaha

        Pablo, maybe Bauza is coming to conclusion no need to change a thing when we are No.1 team in FIFA ranking far ahead to the second team. Maybe he wants just to keep the position;) We have good advantage to the secont team FIFA rank so Mr. Bauza may still sleep at peace. Everything under control.

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          yes sir I think you have bauza 99% sussed as we are number 1 already bauza thinks his work is done and this is what we call “asleep at the wheel”.

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      Bauza: “There could be one that hasn’t been called-up yet”. That means One will be completely new. Ascacibar,Acuna, Lanzini…anyone.

      May be he said 6 new players that are not there in the team right now. If he call Pereyra,Perotti etc they are not completely new.

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        I think rather Acuna.

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    Tite went on to say he is already having some sleepless
    nights ahead of his biggest night as Brazil coach so far,
    when Lionel Messi’s Argentina come to town.
    “I haven’t slept worrying about the match against
    Argentina,” Tite said. “Against them, it is a championship
    match. The game has even more weight because it is a
    clasico.
    “We are not going to run away. For us, the most important
    thing is to consolidate the current level of performance of
    our team because we have been getting good results over
    and above any consistency.”

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      tite looks a different coach than bauza..integrating youth
      and most importantly there’s competition in his team…William countinho Marcelo Thiago Oscar moura ..everyone’s fighting for their place and they have looked far better as the old Brazil with great cohesion among the team.

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